Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard work?
capitalism rewards shareholdersand demand
>>535107093Leftists are very good at identifying problems. Capitalism does in fact have a ton of problems, the system falsely advertising itself as being merit based being one of many problems with Capitalism.However, leftists are absolutely dogshit at solving such issues. Most of the time, they don’t have a solution and just whine about things, like here. Other times, their solution to a problem say inequality is to let violent niggers loose after killing someone and doing nothing because “his people got treated unfairly a long time ago :(“.And other times, the solution is pretty obvious, but it’s conflict with their world view. You could establish 3rd party only hiring that handles everything about employement, and have each job require a test. This would help the economy be more merit based since it removes “connect” bullshit and interview bullshit, and pay is handled by a third party. However leftists would hate such a system because the niggers are naturally going to get the lowest paying jobs with their lower test scores.
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One hint: Federal Reservedebt-based central banks are going to become a thing of the pastcurrency issued in the form of debt, as we have today, is doomed to fail (as it is now)once a currency is used as an investment, it is no longer useful as a currencythe treasury market globally will become meaninglessnations will begin to use their own debt-free sovereign currencies issued by their treasuriesthe Fed will eventually be dissolvedthe US Treasury will issue debt-free US Notes againCurrency backed by labor (productivity and services) makes a nation strongCurrency backed by debt makes a nation slaves
>>535107093Capitalism essentially just rewards people for giving what the public wants, which is why entertainers are so highly paid as well as the people who can distribute those things to the public effectively are the most rewarded. This is why marketing, as useless as it seems, is so valuable and makes so much money in a capitalistic society and why people who are able market things and have the ability to distribute those things make so much money. We could say Bezos is an engineer, as he has a bachelors in engineering, but he's not paid for his engineering, he's paid for starting a gigantic distribution company that can sell and gets things to people cheaper than the competitors. This goes back to Edward Bernays in where his idea was to essentially push propaganda (engineering of consent) against the public during peace time with Freudian psychology to make people feel like they need certain products, or that their life isn't complete without them. Then we branch off into modern capitalism where people buy useless junk all the time, it's not so much that they need it, but that they feel that their life is missing that, and that's what effective marketing does. It's not that it's a bad system, it's probably the best alternative available right now, but it has a lot of problems that have been amplified over the decades.
Daily reminder:The State Capitalist/Communist Regime of the Federal Reserve UnipartyThere is Free Market Capitalism, which we do NOT practice. This is when you have competition & the rewarding of success.We practice State Capitalism (low-grade communism) in which the central bank rewards their buddies whether or not they are successful. They also launder their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets while doing so, which are then held by their private corporation. This is State Capitalism.Again, NOT to be confused with free market capitalism, which is probably only truly practiced somewhere in the Andes.The Federal Reserve is a group of 12 private, incorporated, regional franchises (they can each be sued) & is the driving force behind the corporate takeover of our government. State Capitalism (aka low grade communism directed by the central bank):>the state has considerable control over the allocation of credit & investment>planning to protect & advance the interests of big business against the interests of consumers.>government controls the economy & essentially acts like a single huge corporation>publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling sharesThe Fed con laid out in 105 posts.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/306098770/Correction in archived thread: change mortgagee to mortgagorFed info & links to house & senate crypto summaries:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329381702/Criminal activities of the NYFed's primary dealershttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/342538518/The NYFed investing in China:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/359651784/#359683568Ukraine & its owner, the NYFed: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/389999787/June 2023 Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/The irony here is that we are, in real time right now, witnessing the failure of low grade communism, aka state capitalism.
>>535109653>It's not that it's a bad system, it's probably the best alternative available right now, but it has a lot of problems that have been amplified over the decades.Kys nigger
>>535107093It's almost like it's not capitalism but corporatism.
>>535110045That wasn't capitalism, that was during covid when the government got involved and forced businesses to close down unless they were deemed essential, it then continued to print more money and push it into the market artificially inflating stock values. An authoritarian market run by the government is not going to be the solution.
Success in capitalism is based on what value you provide others. A labourer provides little value. Most artists and writers and creaters create nothing of value. Most scientists never accomplish anything of worth. Engineers and neurosurgeons are paid huge amounts of money if they are skilled. Leftists seethe because most of them are inadequate individuals with nothing of value to offer.
>>535107093OP's image is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen>neurosurgeons, engineers and scientists are literally some of the highest paid people in the US>there are plenty of bullshit artists, musicians, TikTok creators, influencers who make an absurd amount of money>look up rates for service workers now, we are at a point where McDonald's employees are getting paid $20-$30/hourcapitalism is a joke but leftists are so fucking dumb and narrow-minded it undermines the whole anti-capitalist position. also that list is fucking loaded with values based judgment on who deserves what another classic leftist drivelthe primary issue with capitalism and it's marxist cousin is that each are completely materialistic and view human life as nothing but a means for material consumption. that's the degradation, not how much gibs you get
>>535110145>That wasn't capitalismSeriously kys. Capitalism is just a race to gain a monopoly, then buying the state.
>>535110243>the primary issue with capitalism and it's marxist cousin is that each are completely materialistic and view human life as nothing but a means for material consumption. that's the degradation, not how much gibs you getthis is an excellent post
It rewards scamming
>>535107093Capitalism rewards those who already own capital.It's in the name. I don't get why it's so hard to understand to you people.
>>535107093>Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard workey?
>>535110348>Capitalism is what my AIDS riddled brain says it isIf we had real Capitalism my job would just be killing people like you.
>>535110628>real Capitalismlazy skimmers dread real price discovery
>>535107093Those biases on full display... all based in the presumption that the things YOU believe require intelligence, talent and hard work are the things that everyone should regard as such. How do you then account for the fact that athletes, musicians, actors and politicians seem to have SO MUCH MORE money than all of those people you just mentioned. Are they not intelligent, talented or hard working?
>>535110045>posts a picture of a jew
>>535110628>If we had real Capitalism
>>535107093Capitalism just means communism for only the parasite class and you have to pay for it, and in return you get to make fun of trannies online.
>>535107093>Surgeons, engineers, and scientistsThey can't scale their work. >Artists, writers, and creatorsThese people benefit the most from capitalism at the expense of so few of them able to get rich at it. >Cleaners, laborers, service workesthese jobs are easy and stress free
>>535107093I think this is a lot of survivorship bias as we moslty only see or talk about the top 0.01% of people who go into acting, music, sports etc. But there are millions of people who go into those areas and make nothing, whereas doctors ir engineers, even if they aren't very good are still making a good amount of money, they get a baseline reward for just going into those fields, with entertainment it's a lot riskier and we see the people at the top. Just like onlyfans where maybe 1%, but you hear nonstop about it. Capitalism rewards risk, but it still rewards intellect faorly well too.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505237484/^^^ A thread about the NYFed and its ilk now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued, debt-backed stablecoin tokens. This is going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks to save themselves from a failing system that they created? One last fuck you to the country as they insulate themselves in their private tokens?And in the next orchestrated crisis, are the boomers’ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the payment platform is the ultimate claimant to any reserve assets in a crisis or bankruptcy?When is the currency going to be restored to the people? Don't US taxpayers have a right to a debt-free currency issued by their own treasury?Pic related was just passed.This is just entitled boomer classists driving the fucking country into the ground for money (mostly from the now-bankrupt NYFed's QE policies) and now destroying the US taxpayer's currency (the fucking US$, which is A FUCKING UNIT) on the world stage with the Fed’s issued-into-oblivion, worthless Federal Reserve Note.How fraudulent do you have to be that you can actually destroy a fucking unit of measurement? lol holy fuck
>>535110908The people that this economy rewards the most are self-promoters who can scam and manipulate people. Mark Cuban, Mr. Beast, I hate to say it but Donald Trump as well. It's these lying, shifty, scam artist types who can mealy mouth bullshit until you reach for your wallet. You'll notice the people getting the richest are the ones closest to the point-of-sale. -- The grad student who generates the idea, gets paid nothing and lives under a bridge. -- The engineer who operationalize it, gets a standard $50k/year. -- The innovator who forms the company with stars in his eyes, gets a couple million. -- But the CEO who turns it into a consumer product, and starts to sell, sell, sell, gets billions.The closer you are to the point of sale, to the money changing hands, the wealthier you tend to be. And that's literally the exact opposite of how it should be. The idea is the hard part, that's the spark, the magic.
>>535110348Monopolies are not possible without government creating them.
>>535108716>leftists are absolutely dogshit at solving such issuesSo are you going to present the superior right-wing solution at some point?
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>>535111086>The grad student who generates the idea, gets paid nothing and lives under a bridge.up to them to turn their idea into something tangible>The engineer who operationalize it, gets a standard $50k/year.Engineers work in a team and are taking research from other people and building on it. They are paid to do engineering work which they would not be doing on their own time without getting paid>The innovator who forms the company with stars in his eyes, gets a couple million.>But the CEO who turns it into a consumer product, and starts to sell, sell, sell, gets billions.CEO and the innovater are the same people usually and how much they make depends on how successful the product is. Not all CEOs are owners and don't get billions. CEOs are hired based on agreements between shareholders.
>>535107093Because CEOs have to be all three.
>>535111396And in comes the memeflag with the party line.
>>535108716How are those "Concepts of a plan" coming along, retard?
>>535111396Anon I'm telling you. The guys working in groundbreaking technologies are paid absolutely nothing compared to the guys selling sweaters and ballcaps and shit. Consumer products are what sells and is rewarded. It's your ability to manage supply chains, deliver cheap consumer goods, that gets you the billion. Not your ability to think outside the box, generate new ideas that might actually push the species forward. This economy is set up as a consumer economy, a giant shopping mall. If we spent even a tiny fraction of the amount we're spending on consumer goods, to spend on researching core-technologies, we could be leapfrogging into the space age.
>>535107093>>535108269Talmudism*You can have capitalism without any of the insane corporate bs kikes have added to it.
A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and>the US dollar is a fucking UNITWe need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.We can:1 nationalize Fed banksOR2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banksOR3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulationOR4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the peopleUSE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people. US Treasury-issued paper fiat (aka cash, aka US Notes):>is permissionless>is private>is anonymous>has no transaction fees>works in power outages>doesn’t need the internet>don't need to be a coder to use it>doesn't depend on another party having a device>everyone knows exactly how much they have>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport>is inclusive, it does not see race>is harder to use in ransoms>can’t be hacked>don’t need to remember a password to use it>IS the ultimate in payment platforms>using cash helps people to save money and budget>puts the power directly in the hands of the people >keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services>less paperwork>is face to face, not face to screen>makes government theft harder>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizensBoycott businesses that do not take cash.NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY. Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.Note the US Treasury never suggests a debt-free Treasury-issued stablecoin for the citizens to use. kek
>>535111235The kike system we have now is the right wing economy
>>535111524yes, almost like life isn't fair. That's the way business works and ultimately you have to know what consumers want and cater to them.If life was fair, then the smartest men would be the most attractive to women but that's not how it works in reality.
>>535108269You should add shareholder primacy and Milton Friedman to that image. Capitalism after Ford vs Dodge was not that bad. It went to shit in the 80s because of greedy Wall Street Jews.
>>535111645>That's the way business worksNo that's the way this economy is set up. We're consuming the scarce resources of the earth in an orgy of consumption. The upshot of this, is to secure the wealth of a particular class of obese old men who feel very important about themselves, and ride around in speedboats on the weekend. The society gets fattened up like cattle, social order is maintained, but ultimately those core, big questions confronting humanity are never challenged. How to build carbon nanotubes, how to survive in space or underwater, how to advance our civilization to the next level. Honestly we could do with less consumption. Too much consumption harms people, turns them into fat cows. If we instead consumed what we needed, and worked less, we would have more intellectual output. That would be greater value in the long run.
>>535108716>This would help the economy be more merit based since it removes “connect” bullshit and interview bullshit, and pay is handled by a third party.More corruptible bureaucracy.Not that I have any better idea except for allowing segregation to occur naturally, assuming it would.
>>535111757that's how people want to live and there's not much that can be done about it. You can't force people to consume less unless they are broke.
>>535107093it rewards sociopathic jews
>>535107093>paper money>capitalism
>>535110068>real capitalism has never been tried>real conservatism has never been tried>real MAGA has never been tried
>>535111936People don't know what they want. They don't have independent agency. It's the leaders of society that tell people what they should want, what they should value. We need to instill values into them. This postiion has been hijacked by a group of business people who are telling people "what you should care about is consumer slop". So that's what people care about. This is a natural position in the tribal order, they hijacked, and they are using to degrade society.I'm not against free markets, or business, but why is the business class also leading our social life?
>>535107093>the richest people would be neurosurgeons Uhh, they are?It's literally the highest paying job out there that's not an administrative position
>>535111524People need clothing more than they need a niche piece of technology that can help us land on Mars. In the grand scheme human advancement they probably don't make as much as someone who can sell a ton of practical items, but you have a lot of scientists who become very rich off their discoveries, like Fritz Haber, James Dyson, James Watson, but also science is done now as a more collaborative effort as things are so much more complex now but you will get rewarded by the public more for practical items like a car, as opposed to the ability to photograph a black hole.
>>535107093That tweet assumes money is the greatest or only reward, how shallow and reductionist of them.Capitalism rewards scientists by letting them be scientists. Capitalism rewards artists by letting them be artists. Without capitalism, there would be no one to give jobs to artists and scientists to begin with because we'd all be living in huts and spending all of time chucking spears at predators to defend those huts.
>>535112243>People need clothing more than they need a niche piece of technology that can help us land on MarsThey need it more RIGHT NOW, but long term, they don't understand what they're missing. Burning through the scarce resources of the earth to produce cheap consumer goods, and blow up the population to 10 billion, in the end we waste it all and never get to the next level. One of the things that really bothers me is the time that people are being asked to work. 50 years ago, everyone predicted the average work-week in 2020 would be like, 15 hours/week. Not only did that not happen, but instead people are working longer than ever just to make rent.My point is, that let's say you make someone work 20% longer. You get 20% more production out of them. But if you ease off them, they might have the time to think of abstract ideas or projects, and improve the efficiency of their workplace. Maybe by 100-fold, or 500-fold. So that 20% you took as a loss, ended up being a net social positive. But a consumer-focused business doesn't care about that. They want the most profit for themselves, they won't eat a 20% loss like that. Even if it has longer term social benefits.Like let's say everyone in the US got their working hours cut in half. Our production falls by half. People consume less, that's tough. But in exchange they get an extra half of their day as free-time. They could spend it with their family, or their friends. They could start working on their own projects, tinker around. We'd get more artwork, more software projects, collaborative games and media. Maybe even more inventions.I mean the internet has unlocked some of this, look at the explosion of art and creativity and output. That would be intensified drastically.But the cost of that, would be that if people have more time in their day, these fat scum who rule us won't have the constant drip of consumerism lulling them to sleep. We might have a revolution, which is what the fear most.
>>535107093>Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard work?ANSWER: Because most people fundamentally do not understand what "capitalism" even is. Capitalism is not a place on some economic scale...it is a direction of movement towards the INDIVICUAL rather than the group (socialism).Anarchy (pure freedom) <~~> Communism (totalitarianism)"Capitalism" = the desire to move towards more individualism."Socialism" = the desire to move towards the group.>Capitalism is not a destination...it is a direction of movement. And no one is ever stationary on the economic scale..not even a Commie, nor Anarchist. We are always facing one way or the other at any given moment regarding government policy.FACT: I am a Christian White Nationalist Monarchist.
>>535109892Baste poastThe Federal Reserve system is the heart of the Great Satan.Good luck t o anyone trying to find a way to defeat it.
>>535108716>establish 3rd party only hiringNigger that difference does that make compared to the shit show we already have now? Companies are already using international 3rd party hr firms to recruit and manage people, these hr roasties are sitting on 100k+ salaries while sifting through thousands of applications using all in one ai hr solutions.
>>535107093If you work at a hospital, get another job today. You were warned.
>>535112556>I am a Christian White Nationalist Monarchist.Jfc you're even more retarded than a lolburg
>>535112845That system has been tried and it lasted almost two thousand years.
>>535107093The richest people often are engineers
>>535107093it used to before globalism took over. now the capitalists can just outsource all work to poorer countries while charging more money for it in rich countries.
>>535107093I have capitalism fatigue.
>>535107093It rewards entrepreneurs and smart people and the workers benefit from it, god leftards really are the most stupid niggers around.
>>535109653I blame Bernays for most of blind consumerism in general.
>>535107093It's a combination of supply, and demand. Service workers make very little since it's a job tons of people are willing, and able to do. Laborer's make a little more because tons of people are able to do it, but a little less people are willing. Neurosurgeons make a lot because very few people are able to do it, and it's in high demand. Money however is in extremely high demand, but very few people are able to properly identify good investments, and very few people are willing to take on the risk. It's the same reason why underwater welders make more than regular welders, it's a much more dangerous job that is far more unpleasant, and inconvenient, and it's demand is intermittent so very few people are trained to do it, so when they are called for these sorts of jobs they are paid very well. Hard work has no value, you could work infinitely hard digging the same hole, and filling it in, but you created no value. Hard work actually has a negative value,. If you told someone "I scrubbed your sidewalk by hand instead of using a pressure washer, I want paid more for my hard work" you'd get slapped in a capitalist country. People will pay for these sorts of labor saving devices because they want to work as little as possible. The labor theory of value you communists propose has an exact inverse relationship with reality. People want as little as possible, and pay to reduce labor. The steam engine is not a negative value device because it reduces the amount of labor needed for a job, it's immensely valuable. >>535108825They just read the Sears catalog typically.
‘Nazis', which is a word that specifically refers to Germans in the 1930s practicing THEIR brand of ‘national socialism’.National Socialism is really JUST an economic strategy in which LABOR BACKS THE CURRENCY. The term 'Nazis' is now used to impart a fear of ‘national socialism’ (the innocuous economic strategy that backs money with labor), b/c the status quo REALLY are in fear of national socialism. The classists are really in fear of the people realizing it is their LABOR and productivity that backs our currency.
Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste. If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:communityfamilywork ethicintellectfitnessperseverance cleanlinesshonestyintegritycompassiontraditionloyaltyreliabilitypatiencehumorIf you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.Judge yourself by deed, not possession.
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>>535108716My solution is the gillotine for any and all people trying to influence politics with money.It'd solve a lot of issues over time.
>>535107093It's the bank not the "ism" stupid
