I have made a realization. America is a gluttonous nation that blatantly promotes obesity, overconsumption, and a unhealthy lifestyle. When I was in Europe walking around and eating much more normal food (not even healthy just less sugar) I lost a significant amount of weight. I know the whole walkable cities shit is a meme but there is a significant amount of truth behind it. Idc that I make more money in America. Id rather have the European (specifically Dutch) style of modest culture. It comes off as more human and respectful. Also Americans treat their workers like shit too. Thoughts? Is it worth it going to europa?
>>535124573Our housing situation has been intentionally fucked super hard by politicians and it would be very expensive for an American to move here but it's otherwise still a great place to live
>>535124573> Id rather have the European (specifically Dutch) style of modest culture.Dutch women are feminists but extremely beautiful. You will not suffer there, go ahead .
>>535124573Remember, you're still gonna pay taxes even when you're outside america and if you denounce your citizenship, the gov gonna take 20% of the entire wealth you have. AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA OOOO SAAAYYY CAAANNN YOUUU SEEEEEE
>>535124804>feminist>will not suffer
>>535124573You think it's any better here? LMAOIf you actually hungry for growth and opportunity, you need to go to the global south. The western world has been in decline for decades.
>>535124573>ruin your own country>move to another country to ruin it as wellRope, right now you subhuman.
>>535124573Whatever, just do not come to Poland. Or Chechia/ Slovakia and Baltics.
>>535124573Fuck off, we are full
>>535124573As long as you stay away from barbershops.We're having a bit of a shitskin gangwar issue where they continuously bomb eachother's whitewashing operations.Also if you're not a millionaire or a nigger you're not gonna get a house, famalam.
>>535124573You need to move to Asia, Europe was long gone.
>>535124573Try it for a few months and see if you like it. I'd much rather have American immigrants than more Indians.
>>535124573Fuck off we're full.
>>535124875The Dutch feminists are largely the reasonable equal-rights kind; not so much the turbo-misandrists the US harbors.In fact- the last few years the outspoken ones have been pleading the case that "boys should be allowed to be boys" in the media every now and again when the topic of polarization between men and US firebrand feminism comes up.
>>535124738I can sleep on my cousins couch for a while. >>535124804American women are also really libtard feminists too just not as attractive at least per capita.>>535124883Lol a polack calling me subhuman oh the irony >>535124904I dont give a shit about Eastern European lol. What are you going to offer me? Small wages? Commie block housing? Alcoholism?>>535124960Asia? Where exactly?>>535125033Libtards are all the same they really are
>>535124964FWIW - I'd rather have some Americans who are actually willing to work and contribute to the economy to live, than yet more refugees subsisting on social benefits.
yankee stay home
>>535125033Australia has the worst turbo misandrists > t. Lived in all 3But the problem in the Netherlands is there’s no point in dating because you can just do a hookup (and why tf would you commit to a girl if she’s not a virgin - it makes no sense)Otherwise, if you took out the non-Europeans and fixed the housing crisis, it’s the best country on earth >>535124573My parents moved me to the states, hated it, moved back to the Netherlands after a few years and it was the best experience of my life It got really fucked up after Covid tho so don’t expect too much Racial tensions are wild too in the randstad
>>535124573Just move to a rich area, the netherlands isnt going to be around much longer
>>535124573Yesterday, I made use of my free NS ticket because it was Hemelvaartsdag (the day Jesus went to Heaven) and visited a random rural village. I was surprised with just how many Syrians and Somali's there are fucking everywhere. Not just Syrians and Somali's, Kurds, Eritreans, Ethiopians, and Iraqi's. Meanwhile the cities are experiencing an exodus of Surinamese, Caribbean, Moroccan, and Turks into the countryside as well as these people are being priced out of urbania. I don't believe the statistics that we're a majority White country anymore, even rural villages are like 80% foreign at this point. The statistics can only be true if all White people just stay in house all day during the weekends and holidays and only asylum seekers and other foreigners go out. Most of the kids in rural schools are either refugee kids or they are the offspring of incel men with Asian women like in vidrel. The only White women who still have kids live in all-White gated communities or are German immigrants.
>>535125122>Otherwise, if you took out the non-Europeans and fixed the housing crisisThese are basically the same issue, even.>Racial tensions are wild too in the randstadSimple solution: don't live in the randstad. It's cancer-central for multiple reasons.Pick somewhere like Eindhoven instead, which is basically the tech-center of the Netherlands.
>>535125196>Hemelvaartsdag (the day Jesus went to Heaven)It's called Ascension in English, dutch-bro.
>>535124573This guy gonna have a stroke when he realize how much taxes we pay here.
>>535125061You are absolutely correct in your assessment. True WASPian supremacy.
>>535125033Turn on NPO TV or listen to radio NPO. Yes, the vast majority of White Dutch women are normal and most aren't Feminists or at least not THAT kind of Feminist. But all media is geared to turning the next generation of Dutch women into them. Gen Alpha Dutch women will be insufferable and shit. I tried watching German TV yesterday, they're pushing the exact same Feminist memes. They are training our women and girls to hold grievances towards all men and boys. Misandrists get invited to radio shows to talk about rape culture. All good women avoid basically any type of media and only read old literature, these women are increasingly becoming a rarity.
>>535125212Maaan I graduated recently, moved back to the Netherlands twice in the last 2 years but every time I go back after a few months some shit outside of my control gets fucked up and god sends me down to Melbourne You have no idea how lucky you are to live there - I’m working my ass off to end up somewhere outside the randstad like Eindhoven in a year
>>535125315But the problem is the liberal attitude towards sex - it’s so fucking gross if you’re looking for something meaningful And the misandry is slowly growing - look at how Dutch women can try and emasculate you guys
>>535125061> American women are also really libtard feminists too just not as attractive at least per capita. Feminism is actually quite rare in the Netherlands, I haven't met many Feminists (though they are disproportionately employed by schools as teachers and for governments), but you'll see the occasional Feminist institution and most Dutch women tend to view it as "excessive" and "unfair". But they are the silent majority and like how yesteryear's silent majority got silenced by activists, today's reasonable Dutch women will be silenced by Feminist institutions. In the Netherlands, we have like 3 political parties that don't believe women should have the right to vote, a fundamentalist Christian party believes that no woman should hold any power and all their politicians are male. Over half of their supporters are women, but because they believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote their women don't vote and they could have double the seats. Based people always self-sabotage like this. I don't think women shouldn't be allowed to vote, but with all misandry in society I'm happy that we at least have a few mainstream people telling the Feminists to shut up. But it doesn't matter how rational and reasonable today's Dutch women are, the state propaganda, financed by the USA, is actively indoctrinating our daughters to hate males. If you have a kid, don't let them watch TV, it's 100% misandry and Feminist myths about history.
>>535124573The Netherlands seem kind of boring to me, just a big windy plain full of stoners and niggers
>>535124919Non-Slavic White immigration is good, not all immigrants are created equal.
>>535125089That's all well and good but we are full. We don't need 18 million people, we don't need 20 million, we were happiest with 15 million. That was our last golden age, peak civilisation. What happened? It was only 30 years ago.
>>535124573You will feel out of place, not your culture or people. No European countries want us, fix your homeland and stop whining.
>>535124826You get taxed through kikeflation, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
>>535125593At least we’re actually capable of socializing, Sven
>>535124883Jews ruin anything they touch.They are currently ruining Europe as well.
>>535124573>father is European>get autocitizenship to his home country>get EU passportCheckmate niggers
>>535124573Fuck off, we are full.
>>535124573Go for it, man, good luck. Your genes will probably get you a citizenship rather quickly, move to Europe, dillute their islam.
>>535124573The Netherlands is an overtaxed, hell hole. Even Styx got out. The only places where I felt accepted was Finland, Estonia, Russia, and France. I've never been to Czech Republic, but they were total bros.>lived in Germany, Russia, and Estoniat. a Texan that his degree in Estonia.
>>535125662good Ill force them to take me. They aint gotta choice.>>535125987I already have eu citizenship you dumbass
>OP moving to europe>no more jet fuel so must come by sail ship >strong winds knock him off course >he arrives in africa >trollface.jpg>he's actually arrived in europe
>>535126195How do you have 2 passports? Since 2014 it's not supposed to be possible except designated golem countries like Morocco and Turkey.
>>535126447I was born with dual citizenship. My father is a Dutch native.
>>535124573>DutchHoly shit nigger just go to mexico atp.
>>535124804Won't be enjoying dutch women on your own in fact. Mentally ill species of femoid over there. Their holes are public access spaces like gym lockers. It's kind of sick and twisted in a way.
>>535124573Eh, it’s not much better over there. Just came back from Germany and it’s basically the same if not worse. On a side note, I took a mini vacation to Thailand when I was wage slaving in Germany for almost a year and IMHO Thailand is the place to be.
>>535126520Good luck finding a house I guess. You might not understand that the ruling class hates it's own people in the netherlands. You have people forced to live on the border in belgium because niggerlands under rutte got raped through and thats putting it lightly. Their solution was jews, twice.
If you don't culturally fit in the country you grew up in you're not going to fit in a country you immigrate to.Also, no one is completely immune to the culture they grew up with. America has left its mark on you and likely given you the typical yank main character syndrome which will make your life miserable in a conformist country like the netherlands.You also won't be able to make any native friends because they established all their friend groups in kindergarten.
>>535125196Asian waifus are ok. I remember in NL there are a lot of white dutch women niggering with niggers and having bigger babies. As long as sandniggers do inbreeding and white women not falling for Jewish LGBTQ propaganda you kaaskops should still have a chance
>>535124573Fuck off. We have enough niggers already.
>>535126564> It's kind of sick and twisted in a way.This. There’s no point in commitment. Women there are too stupid to realize they lose value every time they get fucked There aren’t many virgins
>>535124573So go. Why waste space here telling people who couldn't give a ripe fuck what you do?Just do it, you limp-wristed pansy. You'll fit right in there.>pic is OP
>>535126564When I was in Amsterdam most of the whores in the red light district were Romanian.
>>535124573Sure, just avoid the south, specially Spain, we're super full of niggers, it's horrible. The Netherlands should work for what you're looking for.
>>535126892> reeeee my mixed race Jewish experimental prison country is superior to anything the world has to offer > how dare you seek a meaningful life in a better part of the world
>>535126930They’re sex slaves that are owned by pimps/grooming gangs from their home country
>>535127019>Found the retarded convict descendant. Where did I say anything about being superior? I said if they want to leave, then they should leave...which part of that is giving you the most difficulty?
>Moving from a superpower country with a population of 200 million+ whites with the best living standards on Earth and where you'd have to be an actual shitskin nigger or retarded crackhead subhuman junkie not to succeed in life>to a boring open air museum continent with stagnant wages, decaying infrastructure, incompetent bureaucracy, and a declining population that has imported third world rape gangs since the 1960s.Least ungrateful yankee
>>535127481>population of 200 million+ whitesya in like the fucking 80s>you'd have to be an actual shitskin nigger or retarded crackhead subhuman junkie not to succeed in lifeNo this country is going down the shitter and its nowhere nearly as easy as it was decades before>declining population that has imported third world rape gangs since the 1960s.America is literally doing the exact same thingYou fucking retard. You complete fucking dumbass. Shut your vodka chugging mouth slav monkey.
>>535124573U can crash at my place anon
>>535125061>Asia? Where exactly?Australia: LifestyleSingapore: Global finance and research China: Professional jobs, technology, research, high end manufacturingStay away from:Japan: dead end, hate foreignersTaiwan: have all the western diseases although will be merged back to ChinaHong Kong: dead end, global finance and port business moved to Singapore and Shanghai…
>>535126930Imagine a country where every female is a prostitute instead of just the actual whores.That's the netherlands. Im from that shithole and not romanian. Kanker kanker landAnyone defending that failed jewish state should be shot along with Rutte
>>535124738What drugs are you on? Who are you kidding? The country is basically a 3rd world shit hole with broken infrastructure. Have you seen our ‘planned’ towns and cities? Completely soulless and no character with small homes that are overpriced. Yet in a real country that house would buy you a mansion and a pool.You are fucking delusions. Our government, institution, organization and companies are corrupt to the core. Draining hard working citizen of ever penny they have. You need to get you fucking head checked and take off your beer goggles.
>>535126880They tend to find out way too late that they've been lied to and the only outcome after defenestration of all morals is the defenestration of they themselves. Usually they jump in front of the NS and stop hard working jew slaves from clocking in 1 minute before their shift, leading to them losing their jobs due to autistic timekeeping bosses and even more suicides with cascading effects. Won't be long till they force you to tape a bag to your anus and force you to collect your gas to recycle.It's that type of toxic braindamage that goes on in the country.
>>535128124You've literally got the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the EU as well as much higher abortion rates, while netherlands is among the lowest for both. You're not a trad country and significantly more degenerate so stfu
>>535128124Hilariously specific and correct; plans are in place to tax the easy to use energy sources soon enough and that other dutchfag is zwaar op zijn pik getrapt
>>535124573just so you know dutch people all hang around other dutch people for the most part. every group hangs around their group and dislikes every other group, the only ones who don't are the liberals and they're just genociding themselves so they're not to be worried about. this is not overexaggerating,
>>535124573nobody forces you to eat gas station food or McDonaldsfat faggot
>>535124573Get out faggot
>>535124573Are you from the Epstein's clique? They usually have a lot of passports.
>>535124573the fact that you picked the netherlands, for any reason other than "i'm ethnically dutch" likely means you're not even european ethnically.the US will likely just enclave balkanize and remigrate to europe under the strain of division, a divided population is a weak country, and multiculturalism is a strategy to keep a country weak. europe will expel foreigners eventually, they don't have choice, its an inevitability when globalism breaks down. boomers are on their way out, they have 1 foot past the finish line already.you're better off going back to your home country. no place is going to be safe for foreigners, muh colonizer rhetoric was always going to end up applied to both sides of the scales equally. that was always going to horseshoe.
>>535124573I also have an EU passport. I could never rationalize moving there though. It's worse by almost every metric, maybe with the exception of demographics, but they are ruining that too.
>>535124573The issue isn't wanting to, the issue is being able to
>>535124573Not a single euro nation would be spared. If you want to make a "move for the future" it would only be china, or a neighboring country of theirs. Of course learning mandarin is going to be the worst part.
>>535124573Use Google Street View, and take a look at Latvia.Our real estate prices are somehow sane. Partially because our government revoked residence permit for bunch of citizens of Russian Federation, who did not observed our law. That gave influx of commie block apartments into market, which slowed down real estate price grow.Overall, country is sparsely populated. In summertime and autumn, you can take knife in your hand, and roam around in forests (even private ones). Others will think that you are foraging for shrooms and leave you alone. Around half of country teritory covered in forests.Because of high food prices (compare to salary), you are kinda guaranteed to not to gain much weight. I live in capital city, and our public transport is kinda nice. In terms of coverage.If you are black, then be ready that there will be a lot of "eastern european stare" towards you. But mostly you will be left alone. Just will feel uncomfortable.In summertime, it is beautiful here. In late autumn, winter and early spring it sucks. Also, quite a lot of percipitation. Not as much as in UK, but not by much. In summertime, it is green everywhere. A lot of places where to go for a swim.If have some other questions, ask.
>>535135039The people are way better tho, no? Or are you from the UK?
Move to Cyprus or some other semi tax haven so you get the ultra low tax citizenship benefits.>>535135256Also this is true.China, their neighboring vassals or South America is the better option, because those are the next growth centers.US and Europe are going to be varying degrees fucked depending on the location.
>>535126783the fact that they rarely if ever show WMAF in movies/tv shows/ads (which are all jew controlled) tells you they are NOT on the same level as niggers which are shown non-stop
If you want walkability Europe is great. Just understand that they are becoming as (((pozzed))) as America and you will have to deal with subhumans on your public transit. The situation in the Netherlands has gotten very bad. A decade ago it was AMAZING , but I went last year and was surprised how bad it’s gotten.
>>535124573Im genuinely considering moving out of Europe
>>535135311>bunch of citizens of Russian Federation, who did not observed our lawUhhyou forgot about Yuri Shefler (Russian/Israeli citizen)? He still owns 1000s of hectares of land in Latvia and Madona especially since it's very mountainous (and he likes mountains, hence he resides in Switzerland now). And he owns about 70% of the land around lake Viesurs.https://www.lursoft.lv/real-estate-properties/parcel/70960040025https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_SheflerAlso, IKEA owns 30% of Latvian forests, so it leaves about 20% only locals that own it, the rest 50% is the government.https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/20.10.2025-dutch-ingka-investments-to-become-latvias-largest-forest-owner.a619048/
>>535124573>specifically DutchGood lord, I just escaped that micromanaged liberal shithole. You can't possibly pick any worse place to move to in Europe.
>>535124826Don't pay, don't return stateside. Simple as
>>535136940Yeah...Dutch is only good in rural areas and very small towns if you want to escape crime, drugs, shit ton of shitskins.I have family friends that live in rural area not far from Venlo and even there are Afghani immigrants as neighbors in a very rural village of 300 people.
>>535136860Never heard about Yuri Shefler before.But about forests, still. Even if particular forest is owned by swedes, you can forage berries and shrooms there. It is forbidden in military polygons by we do not have much of those.
>>535137289>Never heard about Yuri Shefler before.LMAOWhat?How old are you?He owns Latvijas Balzams for like 20 years now via SPI Group and Amber beverage (now).
>>535124573You know you don’t need to eat slop right? Just because there are fat retards doesn’t mean you need to be one too.
>>535136940As opposed to Jew run minority white America?
>>535124573lollater retardyurop is a great place to visit. horrific place to live
>>535135451>the fact that they rarely if ever show WMAF in movies/tvDelusional
>>535137477As opposed to the US?
>>535137380Heard about Kirovs Lipmans, which owns Grindex (pharma company), because he was pushing that hockey thing.Also, knew about Tatyana Zhdanoka, Vladimirs Lindermans, Jakovs Pliners, who are jews who were pushing for that "hands of from russinan schools" thing.
>>535137573>Tatyana Zhdanoka, Vladimirs LindermansYou should also know then about Boris Spiegel and Josifs Korens. They are connected in Latvia's Jewish AntiFa movement.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Spiegel
Europe?You mean the group of retards who actually take "muh climate" as a reason to force people to eat bugs instead of real meat? The continent that's so retarded they hamstrung their energy production because a ancient nuclear plant on the other side of the world had a problem? The place where you are put in jail for having the audacity to say wrong think out loud?The group of countries that decided importing low IQ men was a moral imperative and then completely ignored the rape of their native women?Good luck with that, retard.
