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The country is collapsing.
> Causes:
> Cost of Living: High housing, tax, and healthcare costs are top factors
> Safety: Concerns regarding crime and violence
> Key Destinations
> Europe: Significant increases in American residents are seen in Portugal, Ireland, Spain, and the Netherlands.

Whites are leaving, jeets and chinks are getting in.
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>>535131648
I'd leave, but leaving is a rich man's luxury. Costs a ton of money to get a new citizenship and renounce the old.
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>>535131648
I'd leave if I didn't have family here.
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alex meachem moment
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>>535131648
My old man renounced his citizenship when Biden came after him for taxes even though he hasn't lived in the US since the 1980s

He had to give them my name and I'm defacto American they said and have to submit 10 years of taxes if I ever plan on crossing the border.

It also means I can get a US passport and escape jeet hell.
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>>535131648
So we need to keep the foreigners out and things might be good again? No more tract housing replacing family farms? No new strip malls? No 30+ kid classrooms?
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>>535131648
I'm moving to the bahamas this winter after storm season
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>>535131957
>escape jeet hell
Better come help us fight that fight now. Have you seen the OH governor race or anything happening in TX?
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>>535131985
Those things have a chance to be fixed if you stop a billion allah snackbars and street shitters from flooding in otherwise you live in Bangladesh 2.0 where nothing will ever work and taxes quadrupled anyway
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>>535132034
TX always had lots of jeets because of the medical industry there. They were allowed to scam for jeets as lab techs instead of teaching the locals, same thing happened here
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>>535131957
What happened, I'm confused
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>>535131648
Great satan is finally dying, and it's a good thing.
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>>535131648
I'd leave as well, but I'm a poor NEET and honestly, there's no where to go that isn't just a shithole of another flavor. There's only one way off this ride.
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Boomer trash ruining their country after sucking it dry, letting niggers and what not to rampage then goes somewhere else. Amerimutt and similar westerners are the same as kikes.
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>>535131712
And tones of stressful bureaucracy

You can always paint yourself brown and hop into a pontoon on the english channel without documents and you will get british citizenship and free luxury hotel stay
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>>535132910
unironically true
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>>535132310
Biden needed money so went after every overseas American. My father flew to Germany and renounced citizenship there because all other consulates had a year waiting period for non emergency appointments.

Once there he had to give them the names of me and my siblings and now they came after us saying we are defacto American and need to provide income history or else next time I cross the border I could get detained. So I'm just going to get my yankee passport and work down there for 4x what I would be paid here because jeets

Also do not redeem Portugal it has fallen to mass, mass migration
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I want to leave, any suggestions?
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>>535132991
You are probably better offing yourself, not gonna lie.
American retardation with mixing ruined europe forever.
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>>535131648
A original cause of white flight was the mass influx of illegals into major cities increasing property values after WWII, which doubled. Jews paint this as racism and not economics because they were segregated, now there's minorities living in shitty post war mass produced housing from the 50's and 60's
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>>535131648
You sound like a hysterical woman.
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>An American goes to the Civil Guard in Mallorca to request political asylum out of fear of Trump's policies.
https://www.elmundo.es/baleares/2026/05/07/69fc6f1fe4d4d8bc1a8b4589.html
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>>535132991
Find a better US city on the east coast with low cost of living.
White areas of Philly are like old NYC, Syracuse is cheap, Cincinnati is taking off as a decent US city though not sure the negro population there.

To get into yuropoor you have to marry in, or go to school there for example Germany will offer path to citizenship if you get a degree there. I think croats and some others allow migration if grandparents are from there. Ireland used to then switched to violent Muslims only sorry no heritage migration we only want the worst possible
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Basically Jews wanted to milk the country for money then leave immediately.
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>>535133178
>housing from the 50's and 60's
You mean 50s and 60s
Another victim of the American "education" system
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I wonder how many are Americans and how many are paper “Americans”, dual citizens, or otherwise eligible for immediate foreign citizenship.
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>>535131712
A man without a citizenship is a man who is not a faggot playing silly statist games.
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>>535131648
I would leave if I could.
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This isn't nearly as bad as it seems. What matters here is the average age of the person leaving. My father is planning on retiring in Costa Rica. If its mostly just boomers leaving, then that isn't a huge deal. If its males between the age of 20-50, than that is different since they pay the majority of taxes here.
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>>535133893
The only problem with Patagonia is that Patagonia itself is not a good place to do business. CoL is cheap, but quality of labor is low and governements down there have a massive leftoid problem. Personally, I would move to far east Russia (Vladivostok, KoA, Khabarovsk) to take advantage of Asianngroqth and Russian energy investments. Africa also looks good from a purely demographic perspective, but its Africa. Botswana, Namibia, and Rwanda look good for somebody with more risk tolerance.
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>leaving burgerland to make more money
You’re going to be in for a shock when you realise that even bumfuck Mississippi is richer than any other country on earth. What’s worse is that most of these people are probably Bay Area Californians paid $300k+ per annum to send emails
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>>535131648
Leaving is smart.
Renouncing citizenship is stupid.
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>>535134488
You make money in the IS, but then spend it somewhere else. That is the meta to expating.
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>>535134545
Americans have to renounce their citizenship or pay US taxes aka double taxation
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>>535133850
>just be a stateless person bro, subject to deportation from everywhere and protected by no sovereign
>inb4 I'm a strong independent libertarian drug addict-pedo who don't need him no government daddy
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>>535134621
Only applies to very rich people.
Like, so rich I don't even know how rich you'd have to be.
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>>535134621
>>535134545
Under a certain net worth, there is no fee iirc. You'd need to renounce if you want to escape the tax system, unless you make less than $132k/yr (foreign earned income exclusion).
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>>535131648
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I can't even afford to live anymore and I make good money. Is it wise to save up money/debtmaxx then leave? I'm thinking somewhere like ecuador or South East Asia. If I can save enough money to keep me going for another 20 years I'll be happy. Or am I stuck in this shit skin hell hole spending my days working to just survive?
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>>535135004
>Canada
How much do you have in savings? If you plan ondebtmaxxing and leaving, you'd need to choose a country that will not cooperate with Canadian LE or debt collectors. So that knocks out a lot of neutral and pro-western countries.
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>>535135138
I've got maybe 50k in savings. I've done a bit of research on this and the debtmaxxing would only get me like another 100k of funds. I figure I can wait another year and live minimally and save another 50k.
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>>535135265
You need a 5 to 10 year plan. How old are you and what are your skills? $50k is not enough. You'll want at least $200k if you plan on working, more if you don't.
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>>535131648
American nature on display. When something becomes difficult, they flee to a different country, just like their ancestors did. In most other cultures, you'd need a war, or famine, or some other grand calamity. But not Americans, a slight inconvenience is all it takes for them to abandon their countrymen and set up shop in someone else's. A thoroughly disgusting population of rats and cockroaches.
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> In nearly all of the European Union’s 27 member states, the number of Americans arriving to live and work is at a record and rising. The total living in Portugal has jumped more than 500% since the Covid pandemic and grew by 36% in 2024 alone, official data there showed. In the past 10 years, the number of American residents has nearly doubled in Spain and the Netherlands, and more than doubled in the Czech Republic.
> Last year, more Americans moved to Germany than Germans moved to America. The same was true in Ireland, which welcomed 10,000 people from the U.S. in 2025, about double those who came in 2024.
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>>535135422
>salty tax man
There is nothing wrong with going where you are treated best. The elites that run the West don't give a shit about the native population, and the population is too complacentto change this, so why should you care about them? You think these niggers don't have a villa overseas?
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>>535135004
If you won't or can't join a white nationalist movement in Canada, then I would move. The closest thing Canada has to a remigration party is a zionist party that wants to import infinity jeets.

You could debt max in China or latam
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> Strikingly, the new American migrant is more likely than ever to bring children in tow, relocation companies and realtors say, laying down roots and raising a set of Americans feeding into foreign colleges.
> “You don’t face the prospect of your 5-year-old going into a kindergarten and doing an active shooter drill,” said Chris Ford, 41, who works for a Dallas real-estate investment firm while helping run a kids’ baseball league in Berlin, whose roster has doubled in size for each of the past three years. “The wages are higher in the U.S. but the quality of life is higher in Europe.”
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>>535135422
>if they try to boil you in the pot, just sit in it goy. only jump away if they try to chop your head off.
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>>535135704
You can also debt max in Russia
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>The bargain: The U.S. has larger salaries, mobile talent and millions of citizens craving a better life. Europe needs such workers—and their income—to prop up a pension system so top-heavy that French retirees now outearn working age adults, according to the Luxembourg Income Study, a research agency. European salaries are constrained by high taxes and low growth. Retailers, restaurants and real-estate agents want foreign clientele.
> In return, Europe offers inexpensive healthcare, walkable cities dotted with sidewalk bistros and co-working spaces where English has displaced the local tongue. Housing in many cities remains comparatively cheap and plentiful. Schools are affordable, safe and, excluding universities, generally higher-rated than America’s.
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>>535135749
I would go to Russia in his position over LatAm, simply because Russia is growing in global importance while LatAm is stagnant. Again, if he wants to work.
>>535135717
>real estate developer
>quality of life higher in Europe
A shitlib with money he gained selling houses to jeets back home. Not surprising. Would like to see how he's doing in 5 years.
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>>535135659
>there is nothing wrong with behaving like a cockroach
You would say that, wouldn't you? I belong in my country. You belong nowhere.
>>535135742
Then fix the problems. My country is flooded with people that have overstayed their welcome. As a response, Swedes formed a party that is currently working to repatriate those who don't belong and eject those that stir trouble. What are you doing to fix your problems? Nothing. Fleeing to somewhere else. There is no important difference between you and jeets. You behave identically.
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>>535135904
Latam is also dominated by the same lefty politics, they're just too poor to mass import jeets. You will probably end up paying everything you own in some sort of equality tax, unless the government is too dysfunctional to do it. For paraguay, that is why they have low taxes, nothing works, they may vote for a parasitic state, but a leech cannot grow large when there is nothing to feed it
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>>535136317
Again, you are trapping yourself. The elites that run your country hate you, and there is a significant amount of the population that hates themselves. Your nation will continue to decline in QoL while you pay taxes to people who hate you.

You are going through hell to make someone else happy. The only way your country unlucky itself long term is if life there declines so much that the elites that run it are killed. You are better off moving to a country that is against the elites of you country ifbyou want to actually free your nation.
>a political party
You don't understand the nature of the problem. You can't vote your way out of ZOG.
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>>535135904
Russia’s GDP is growing as it’s transitioned to a full on wartime economy, but it’s otherwise fucked. Yea you could evade debt repayments but you’d also have to live in Russia and lose any diplomatic protection you once had. Sounds miserable
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>>535131648
I feel bad for Americans. They have consumed so much slopaganda they don't realize they have the highest purchasing power in the world outside of some fake countries (with the population of cities) like Norway, Denmark etc.
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>>535136771
Russia is growing in geopolitical importance because it is now China's main supplier of energy. Nothing else matters in the end. If energy is cheap, CoL will be cheap. China is not going away, nor will it deindustrialize anytime soon. Russia has problems, but they are a manageable ones. Hence why I recommend far east Russia. Russia has been ascendant for 20 years now, while the West has suffered from stagnation.

This is all very obvious if you were born prior to 2000.
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>>535136734
>defeatist bullshit
Sweden has gone through several changes due to public pressure, so your take sounds like cowardice to me. But I don't expect anything else from you either.
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>>535136734
theres a huge grifting LARPing swede named The Golden One on youtube who does all the pagan bullshit, politcal activism, lifting/mma bullshit. all performative, all LARP. once you see that you know its how theyre all built, even if we have our flaws swedecuck didnt materialize from nothing
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>>535132819
Yeah they are locusts following the footsteps of the jews. I have no doubt that, as a result of the ultra low birthrate, that in a Few generations americans and other parasites will be such a tiny miniscupe total number of people that they actually “infuse” with the jews themselves, being absorbed into that nation. The jews absorb badly needed “fresh blood”, the american parasites “go extinct” as they truly become just another gene added to the jew.
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>>535137296
>no argument
Is your quality of life worse than it was 20 years ago?
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>>535137004
Also, look at the demographics of the youth in the West. Whites are anywhere from 20-70% depending on the country, Oslo is going to become like any blacks city in the US. We can't actually have functioning economy when we lose our largest city, and financial and software capital. Imagine if the US let a fourth of it's largest cities go the way of Detroit, and it was the most important cities among the big ones. Combined with EU regulations of course
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>>535133583
>>535132991
You ultimately are going to have to forego citizenship in most european countries unless you think you can run their ten year (or whatever long it is) gauntlet, or like leaf anon said try an alt route like studying (also takes a long time I bet). In many countries you will be fine as long as you get your visa because they’ll auto renew you in most cases and then you’ll ghet a permanent.

Also, word on the street is that illegally migrating to some nations there is better, as you may be offered citizenship anyway (spain for example others have done this too), and you have no real fear of deportation (tbey dont deport there). (!!!!!)HOWEVER(!!!!!!) This could be changing due to AI flock camera mass surveillance. I won’t try it for that reason alone. Personally I think you are better off trying to find land that has zero neighbors, if you still can (I can’t even FIND any, let alone afford the new jewish usury price, it’s all been bought up by yuppies/boomers/jews fleeing their own destruction they caused, or by kikerock and surveillance data centers).
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>>535134488
Making money is not the reason they are leaving, retard. Also, most peoppe in Alabama make less than British minimum wage. Shut the fuck up.
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>>535135138
>>535135004
Debt collectors are extremely easy to evade, niggers in the hood manage it. and fleeing debt is also not a criminal prosecution issue. Furthermore it’s very easy to evade low level criminal investigation, such as contempt of court, you could even do it in the UK if you wanted to.

You cant do it in Canada since they share use of NCIC.
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>>535131648
Ah yes...the trail of white tears
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>>535133786
I've unlearned most of what they taught in school, which wasn't that difficult when it was all multiple choice vocab
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>>535131648
Kek, bye felicia. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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>>535131648
i got my EU passport last yer
plainly the US does not value its best citizens and does absolutely nothing for them
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>>535137760
Precisely. This shit has been baking for 40+ years now. Ignorant people who think that this problem can be solved by just a few years of moderate right wing rule (while the institutions stay leftoidsd) are delusional. Demographics is destiny, and what these people don't realize is that its not just niggers and jews that have to be purged. Its their shilib and shabbos enablers. You would need to kill or remove 60%+ of your population just to undo the damage caused by the last 80+ years of jewish rule. This is functionally impossible without WWII levels of violence.

If you guys want to sign up for this this, be my guest. My solution is more workable.
>>535137976
Depends on the debt load. $10k? No issue. $100k? Criminal fraud.
>>535137861
The people leaving are doing so after making money in the US. They have US savings. Their kids will likely not have that due to taxes and lower wages in general.
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>>535131648
translation:
>they sent out a questionnaire to people getting on one way flights out of the country and asked them questions and didn't verify the answers
>in other words, illegal beaners are leaving and then bitching about it
>and the retards running the survey didn't verify that they were actually citizens renouncing their citizenship and just took their word for it

or, more concisely:
>(((studies))) show...
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>>535138338
Glowniggers know it's dire that's why they're trying to hand Congress over to Republicans

Hahahahahahaha you fools! Never should have messed with the south
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>>535135422
They came here for the gold rush dude. They’re europe’s trash. Why do you think your continent has a low number of trash but america has a massive amount? Because duh.
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>>535133850
in the contrary, without citizenship you're an illegal everywhere you go and you'll have to spend way more time and effort and money dodging the system. Quite the opposite of not playing statist games!
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>>535135377
I'm 42 and my only skills are oil field maintenance, logistics and mechanics. These skills are not transferable really. I'm a poor fag who makes decent money only because the economy is good here.
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>>535131648
The liberals are leaving? Ok but if they come here I only accept if they replace niggers or pajeets.
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>>535138487
The US has been a dumping ground for UK/Irish overpopulation for a while. Progressive liberals even advocated for it in England. Hell I wouldnt doubt it if the potato famine was to get Ireland to depopulate because they had surpassed carrying capacity or something
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>>535138338
Yeah that’s true actually you’re right. There’s a limit on how far out on a limb you can go before ZOG wants to have a word.
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>>535135704
I don't understand the point of staying here. I'm only able to save money now because I am homeless and rely on employer provided housing. If I have to rent or buy a house then I can kiss goodbye to any savings in able to accumulate because they will be spent on rent/mortgage/utilities. I don't know of any pro white movements here. My province of Alberta is talking separation but I know that won't happen
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>>535138117
>mutt hears his country is collapsing, people fleeing
>all he can think to do is quote a nigger movie
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>>535131648

No country will accept Trump as migrant so he have to stay.
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>>535138599
For sure it was something like that. Yeoman style farmers who wanted to get away from Europe were the minority, especially in the massive waves of immigration that were much more voluminous than the OG founding stock migration. The vast majority of settlers were urban poor, often not even directly from England and Ireland but people who first moved to Britain from eastern Europe, and THEN came to America. That’s how a lot of jews came here. The gold rush people were the worst of the bunch. Just total criminals entirely in it for loot. It was the mariel boatlift of the 19th century
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>>535138740
The cities could empty out and most people would shrug, they're open air human trafficking depots
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>>535138688
We are in the exact same shoes you and I.
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>>535133850
Just lie to the government retard
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>>535138525
>oil
Those skills are very much in demand. Russia is an obvious choice, but Argentina has Vaca Muerta shale oil that is being extracted, Nigeria has oil fields and surprisingly Mexico is an option.

Russia will have the most demand due to the SMO pulling men away, and you can get citizenship easily by applying for an SVV. Make sure you learn basic Russian so you know what you are signing. Iran will likely come out of this current situation with control over the strait, so oil prices will stay high for a while. Do your homework and start making plans.
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>>535138514
It used to be so easy- now with flock AI cams I’m really afriad things can radically change. You used to, back in the 80s and 90s, be able to just live illegally in southern europe without ANY consequence forever. It’s been that way really up until recently, as expected the locals have started to become very hostile to americans moving there and will beat you if they catch you. It’s night and day in terms of attitude. But the law hasnt really caught up- the germans will mess with you for living in the EU illegally but the state of italy wont. But like I said… things could radically change with AI surveillance.

This sucks. Imagine if AI was used to create non-woke games instesd of jewish bolshevik antichrist surveillance
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>>535138787
Pretty sure the whole point of the colonization of Ulster was to relieve overpopulation pressures caused by destroyed border regions from war. The scots also started dumping border people into the US. Also what's up with the scots and central banking
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>>535138805
Yeah the human trafficking problem in america is surreal. I saw cops openly forcing peoppe from house to house, again just out in the open, collaborating with traffickers. It’s so crazy. Literal slavery still exists in america and its bigger than ever. But you wont EVER hear liberals complain about it or even mention it! See because Even our bleeding hearts are scammers and liars.
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>>535138819
It's funny isn't it? I can't imagine sustaining this lifestyle for more than a couple years. Though I don't expect things to magically get better if I left to go somewhere else
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>>535139095
Because human trafficking is a State right! But the south isn't allowed to do it
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>>535131648
>Whites are leaving, jeets and chinks are getting in.
no one wants to live in Trump's horrorshow movie, you would have to be pretty sick in the head to enjoy it
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>>535138996
I think that the only way for old groups to survive in america is to be indisposable for jewry. And it’s probably been this way for a very long time here, a century maybe. So being of one of the oldest stock here in america I guess that’s the reason they’re even still around- they played ball with kikes and they passed the test.
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>>535138925
I can't imagine moving to Russia. I know some basic Russian already.. I know the pay won't be good there, the weather is cold and it's a boring place where the actual oil is located.

I'm more interested in the complete shit hole nations. Even Nigeria. I don't give a fuck if I live around niggers. They can be good people when they are in their own environment (I've traveled to several African countries). I'd still rather live in South East Asia running some obscure business that keeps the bills paid. I've given up on the idea of ever becoming wealthy, but happiness is something that anyone can achieve
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>>535139249
Well hillbilly is just a term for border people dumped into the US
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>>535139098
Me too. The only way I see of sustaining myself is via some method of agriculture. Some passive income. And some skill I can use to make some money. I thought about things like micro manufacturing, but I dont have the capital to buy all the machinery I would need. And I also don’t have the skills, at all.

So this is a really challenging issue. I cant go on working 100 hours a week forever. I made enough to invest finally, but didnt, so I missed this year’s bullrun.
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>>535139299
they are good people in their own environment until the worst of the locals start spreading stories amongst themselves of the YT who hoards wealth under his home, ripe for the taking after they murder him.
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>>535139401
Well the amish might make it. The jew's worst nightmare
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>>535132310
Your confusion is justified, that person cannot write a coherent sentence
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>>535139175
Remember that story in the news in Sherrif Shitwood’s county where those two little kids “ran away from a foster home”, somehow armed themselves, and then were shot and recaptured by police? Pepperidge Farms remembers
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>>535139470
That’s true, they’re going strong, just about the only group still expanding and doing well. but remember what happened to them in the Soviet Union…
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>>535131648
> Causes:
> Jews
Nepotism doesn't work when you put retards in positions of power and inevitably leads to taking the ship down with them.
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>>535131648
Americans are retarded, you have both this impulse to talk shit and wave guns around and also flee at the drop of a hat. Where the fuck are you going to go on earth that is more free than your 25+ red states that have judges that will actually follow the letter of the law?
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>>535139518
I wonder if there's a connection between Jews, illegal immigration, human trafficking, the Mob and grooming underage runaways for gay sex
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>>535139658
>he thinks it's the gun owners fleeing

Why are thirdies and browns so ugly and stupid?
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>>535139299
Yes the environment keeps people away, but you are Canadian, so it won't be a huge transition. And the far east region is close to Japan, SK, and China. The big cities in this region aren't too bad to live in, not Bangkok, but not Calgary.

I'd seriously look into it. Its one thing to simply survive, its another to thrive. SEA is good to retire and live an obscure life in, but nobody builds a legacy living there. China is dumping a massive amount of money into the Sakhalian oil fields. Consider Argentina as well. Your skills are in oil, so I would capitalize on that. Try to see what it takes to build a small oil field services company.
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>>535139401
Yea I hear you anon. I might be able to scramble together enough money to buy a small plot. Then I would still need to build a house, drill a well, get power etc. It's all uncertain and even planning this is a risk. The only other alternative is to sign up for payments for the rest of my life in a mortgage. I ask myself what's the point of working so much? What would you realistically do if a 300k fell into your bank tomorrow? Would you keep going with your life here or would you fuck off somewhere else? Even if you have 300k here, that won't last you long. The cost of living elsewhere in the world is hilariously less than it is here.
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>>535131648
Woah
Who said its white people leaving?
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>>535131648
>libs think trump will start ww3
>move to countries that will for sure lose
typical libtard brain
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>>535139658
Those judgdes do NOT follow the letter of the law, not one bit. Laws might as well not even exist here. you’re brainwashed by propaganda.
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>>535139683
>USER WAS VANNED FOR THIS POST
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>>535139765
I don't care if I thrive. South East Asia, specifically the Philippines, is a wonderful place. Yea, I'd forever be poor. But everyone speaks English, you don't need to fear for your life as the people are friendly, the weather is pleasant.

Life is weird though. Ideas are worthless if we don't act on them. Dispair occurs when you don't even have the option to act on your ideas. That's why it's important to save money and have options available to you. Because then you can at least imagine them happening instead of running a million "what ifs" through your mind
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>>535139823
Ever feel like you can’t save up for what you need? I feel like I’m permanently unable to do each of those things you mentioned, no matter how much I save. Price go up, and always 33% more expensive than what I can afford. Cant live in a house without water, and no point in drilling a well if I cant build a house there.

What do I even do? Why am I saving money? What am I trying to “afford”? My savings will always be 33% less than the product I need.
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It’s not so much that it’s collapsing as it is people don’t see anything worth sticking around for within the next 10 years or so. The infrastructure is being neglected, people are dumber and less educated by the day, the country is getting browner and more violent, the institutions are filled with braindead DEI hires and girl bosses who can’t deliver a worthwhile good or service to save their lives, and all the while we’re caught between a a brown-shitlib Jihadi party and a party that seems to only care about shareholder equity and advancing a surveillance state to be run by tech entrepreneurs and media execs. Long term upside looks better if you factor in civil war and competent military men rising through power structure, but the short to medium term outlook is abysmal. Literally nothing is going to get better any time soon.
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>>535140142
Well, its your life brother. SEA is pretty good but CoL is going up. I would try to get in there in the next 10 years or so before you get priced out. If you are open to Africa, consider Botswanna or Namibia.
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>>535140285
>The infrastructure is being neglected, people are dumber and less educated by the day, the country is getting browner and more violent, the institutions are filled with braindead DEI hires and girl bosses who can’t deliver a worthwhile good or service to save their lives, and all the while we’re caught between a a brown-shitlib Jihadi party and a party that seems to only care about shareholder equity and advancing a surveillance state to be run by tech entrepreneurs and media execs.
Hold on, are you talking about America or Europe?
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>>535136946
Many of these people are going to find that out the hard way. They won't change their minds upon reflection - something bad will happen in their destination country and they will urgently want to/have to leave.

And they're in for the surprise of their lives when they learn about the US's "no refunds" policy. You can't just waltz back in and resume your life as a US citizen - you get sent to the back of the line with the third world savages, and may not be allowed to live here while waiting.
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>>535131648
Why don't people realize if the US collapses it's going to take other countries with them? European countries have higher unemployment rates while facing high cost of living and lower wages. Not to mention millions of undeseriables that some how continue to flood the continent.
There is a reason people are freaking out over the US withdrawing troops from Europe and threatening to leave NATO.
Get US ships away from coastlines and trade will stop when pirates hijack ships or ships are attacked.
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>>535131648
>immigration is down
>americans must be leaving
Stupid.
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>>535139973
The US already lost a war to Iran.
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>>535140344
Wherever there are jews in power, this happens.
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>>535132991
Liberia
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>>535138525
Those specific skills are extremely transferable to Russia, Norway, the UK, the US, Brazil, Mexico, anywhere in the Muddle-East, Australia, China, many other countries. The limiting factor is; do you really want to? And, how protective are those countries' industries against outsiders, this is more relevant for anywhere that is not in the US sphere of influence
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>>535140344
The US is 54% white which accounts for boomers, jews and arabs. It's a brown, Brazil tier country.
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>>535140330
Those countries are difficult to move to. Their policies are similar to what our policies SHOULD be. I haven't been to those countries, only eastern Africa and I found it very welcoming there if you use common sense. The cost of living can be high anywhere now if you want to live a good life. Some countries are more welcoming such as Ecuador where they will let you purchase real estate and then live your life. Philippines is more difficult unless you marry a local or something. Or Vietnam for example. You could probably survive there for 20 years on a good years salary in the west.
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>>535135422
Pretty much. Or they will sell everything to foreigners like China and India, it's what MAGA is doing.
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>>535131648
The number of people renouncing US citizenship is not a secret. It has gone from hundreds a year to a few thousand a year over the last decade and has not hit 5k as of last year. I wonder why the headline instead gives and aggregate estimate according to some in the hundreds of thousands that is largely made of movement that has nothing to do with renouncing citizenship.
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>>535131648
Moving where? The whole world is in collapse
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>>535140655
Brazil is one of the most desirable countries, yes. I have 20 years experience working in the oil industry. I'd probably consider it if it wasn't for the language barrier. I can handle basic Spanish but don't know any Portuguese. And how much do I want it? Maybe not bad enough because I still imagine these companies will prefer hiring locals. Perhaps if I went there and settled first, I could land a job. But I don't expect anyone to take me seriously while I am still here in canada. I don't have schooling, just work experience
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>>535140655
Unironically he could go to Iran, so he can be in the most anti-zog regime on Earth, and help rebuild their oil infrastructure. Just be mindful that civil liberties in Muslim countries and China are shit.
>>535140780
Botswana has a CBI program iirc. If ease of (cheap) legal immigration is a concern, you'll have to look at countries that cater to retirees, or Russia, that has the SVV for people fed up with the West.

Regardless, wherever you go, you'll have to have $200k in savings. Don't try to live on a shoestring. It won't work unless you are a local or speak the language.
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Imagine giving up your US citizenship because you saw black people lmao
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>>535131648
Yeah the US is becoming niggerfied but where is there to go? EU countries have free school/healthcare, but are even more cucked on immigrants. Is there ANY country that has
>white majority
>no cucked open borders
>healthcare/college
or are we just fucked eternally
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>>535141762
There are a handful, but few of them are western, and many of them are for the super wealthy. Think Monaco, San Marino, and Switzerland. Meme countries. There is also Belarus/Russia, but they can have problems with churkas.

Need to be very rich or willing to live with slavs.
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>>535132991
There's no running :]
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>>535138688
America is the better option if you're going to move, although it is in many ways a nuthouse.

There is a white nationalist movement in Canada, my recommendation is to check out the forum on therightstuff.biz and see if they have some more info
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>>535141486
The US is a nigger infested shithole, pretty based reaction.
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>>535131648
They're leaving for even worse welfare state shitholes.
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>>535132991
You will have to pay an exit tax on two years' income.
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>>535131648
> The country is collapsing
Be happy, Goymoney is even prolapsing.
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>>535131648
I would gladly take their place, if I could.
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>>535142934
The few thousand that are actually leaving are almost entirely dual citizenship holders that are going back home and cutting tax ties after looting for all they could. The article is deceptively written to make midwits think there is exodus of people leaving due to economic strain or convictions incongruent with Trump’s America, when in fact the 6 digit numbers they provide better reflect immigration versus deportation (voluntary or not).
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>>535132991
Go back to where your ancestors came from; Liberia. Shieeet, boy. Culturally, you will fit right in.
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>>535131648
>seething leftist, jeets and beaners flee due to lack of gibs
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>>535131648
On the one hand MAGA is constantly whining about this and on the other they get super mad when someone mentions this
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>>535131648
Isn’t that literally the purpose of ICE, I don’t get the complaint
If they are American born, then removing communists is doing them a huge favour
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>>535132991
africans are floating rafts across the ocean aren’t they?
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>>535131648
>niggers leaving the country
I voted for this
Thank you trump
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>>535131648
Its the democrats that are leaving, isnt it. They will realize their mistake only after its too late.
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>>535132991
We're full
Fuck off
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>>535144590
full of niggers, yes. before you tell him to fuck off ask for a timestamped handpost.
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>>535134474
>Personally, I would move to far east Russia (Vladivostok, KoA, Khabarovsk)
lol
>Africa also looks good from a purely demographic perspective
lmao... yea do that you nigger
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>>535135422
Get back to me on that when you have sharia law, Sven
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>>535135904
>I would go to Russia in his position over LatAm, simply because Russia is growing in global importance
They need all the help they can get because it's a demographically collapsing frozen hell hole. Russians will never accept you. The language is very difficult and you'll always sound like a retard to them even if you get basic proficiency. I know this from experience as a native speaker who didn't grow up there, so I get constantly asked what kind of accent I have when I'm over there. And they will think you're doubly retarded for moving to Russia from the richest country on earth. Russian women are especially not going to go for an American who was dumb enough to leave the US for Russia to make a Russian income. They are the biggest gold-digging whores on earth. Learning to speak spic (easy) and going to the "white" parts of South America would be an infinitely better plan.
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>>535131648
Americans in this thread saying you want to leave, where would you go?
Do you really want to move to Britain or Australia? I doubt it, so where? New Zealand is accelerating even faster.
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>>535131648
>as many as
>may have
>according to one study
STOP THE PRESSES! hahahaha



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