Because they pay small sums to our elected officials or have sexual blackmail on them.
>>535140305It's antisemitic
It's the jewish shareholders that are the real problem. You just tax companies but give them massive breaks if they re-invest into employee salary/equipment. If there's a bunch of rich people but you have good jobs no one cares. Can't have illegals and welfare pick one. This is why Flordia is going to become the next center for the stock trade.
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>>535140305because its lipstick on a pigthe system isn't just broken, it was shit to begin with
>>535140305Go ahead.They'll just leave, though.There's a reason they're rich and you're not, and it has nothing to do with morals or integrity.
>>535140305The federal reserve moving away from the gold standard must be addressed first
>>535140305Unless it was the whole world over that taxes them the same amount of taxes on them it wouldn't work you God damn moron. The reason why you shouldn't tax the fuck out of the rich in one country is because they'll just move to the country that taxes them less are you fucking retarded? This is how you drive away business and investments.
>>535140305They are already heavily taxed. If anything, the broad middle class must be taxed like Europe to close the deficit.
>>535141029Currency collapses happened more often and were more severe in the species era.
>>535140305Well, I'm on the side for total civilization collapse so I encourage democrats to penalize the wealthy into moving their businesses out of the country entirely.But for anyone who doesn't wish to live the life of a favela monkey, I would recommend that you highly discourage this idea from permeating in society. You don't know what it's like to live poor, and you DON'T want to live poor.Either way, keks are being had rn
>>535140305Fair enough, just have (ruling class) collect more money for (ruling class).
>>535140305Because they'd all move to tax heavens.
>>535140305Because "they'll leave" which is not actually a reason why we shouldn't tax them, it's just a threat of what will happen if you do.
>>535141122Foreigners shouldn't be allowed to own property. And this shouldn't be controversial.
>>535141122>just move to the country that taxes them lessYou can change residence but your assets cant travel. You going to take the industrial and real estate base of a country to Dubai?
>>535140305>wengmi. Also... How will giving more stolen funds to the criminal scumbags who masquerade as "government" help anyone? (Other than the criminal scumbags who masquerade as "government" and their employees, agents and contractors.)
>>535140305Because it's their money you deeps hit. It doesn't belong to you therefore you can't have it.Cope and seethe
>>535140305Because it's gonna be spent on stupid shit like gibs for retarded females and their illegitimate larvae. Let them keep their yachts atp
>>535140305Because they have a way around it, taxing the rich always ends up taxing those who are not rich, or just millionaires.The billionaires take out tax free loans and use their stocks as collateral. Even if we raised taxes to 100% they still wouldnt pay a penny.
they're already make up something like 90% of the current tax revenue.
>>535140931>They'll just leave, though.Leave the USA? I doubt itAre you a coping richfag?
>>535141540>You going to take the industrial and real estate base of a country to Dubai?This is exactly what has been happening to American industries for decades, yes.
>>535140305because they'll leave your country and go to another country taking with them jobs and resources.only joking. its because they run your country (they dont really pay tax ...... you do. ("let the goyim deal in the real world."))
>>535140931you still get taxed by the US Gov if you leave the country
>>535140305There isn't. Our failure to adequately do so allowed them to capture our government. They killed half the middle class so millionaires could become billionaires. Now they want to sacrifice the rest of it so that billionaires can become trillionaires. And still they'll think the little people own too many homes, cars and health insurance.
>>535141657>The billionaires take out tax free loansThe idea is to tax assets not income. Assets cant be hidden. Pointless either way because the government is made by the rich so it would just be rich taxing themselves and paying thenselves
>>535140305Because first you have to pass a hefty remittance tax/exit tax so that they are forced to pay a big chunk of their net worth if they want to leave
>>535140305They'll hide their money in trusts, park it off-shore, create shell companies, launder their money through non profit organizations / philanthropy, etc. They do all this now. It will only exacerbate this dynamic and just make those who are already rich all the more powerful and more deeply entrenched in our institutions as they corrupt everything from politics to business to "civil society." What "taxing the hell out of the rich" actually achieves is it destroys competition among the elites and slows down, if not halts, the overproduction of elites. The side-effect will be, of course, the solidification of a de facto nobility, which is something that "anti rich" lefty populists never consider. But, whatever. You do you. I actually think that the rich WANT you to do this. So, please. By all means. Go ahead. Let's accelerate this bitch
>>535141661The top 1% own 90% of the wealth, so it would actually be kind of nice if they paid 90% of the taxes too. But no, you're wrong, they don't. It's not even half. But what a good little goy you are for thinking that
>>535141799>This is exactly what has been happening to American industries for decades,To China, not to Dubai. China doesnt have low taxes and does not freely allow foreigners to come in and set up shop except in a vassalage relation.China has a 45% top bracket income tax. Its pointless as a tax evasion tool.
>>535141450Yet that orange fat fuck just said American farmers would lose a lot of money if Chinese were not allowed to buy farmland
>>535142038>Trump is making a mockery of everyone who voted for him and every ideal he ran onwho cares anymore? miggers fucked around and are finding out the hard way that they are the poison that is killing america
>>535142036I guess they're just moving everything there for absolutely no reason then :^) just for fun i guess :^)))))
>>535142038He gets paid to say that. You are a cuckold if you agree for free.
>>535141999>They'll hide their money in trusts, park it off-shore, create shell companies, launder their money through non profit organizations / philanthropy, etc.All powerless methods against a wealth tax. Wealth tax is simple, sees wealth, takes some of it. Dont even bother to check who owns it.Oh the wealth belongs to a foundation? Still taken.
>>535142036They make up for the taxes by paying off officials and near vassalage wages.Also, no concern for the ecology or for worker safety There is more to industry than simply taxes. And in China, you can get around that 45%Just like American industrialists did during that much ballyhooed 1950's
>>535140305I could be rich one dayAnd i don't want to be taxed(Ill never be rich)
>>535142171>I guess they're just moving everything there for absolutely no reason thenChina is a self reinforcing industrial hub. Initially it was for the cheap labor, today it just has a great supply chain, everything you need is there. But doesnt work as a way to avoid taxes.
>>535140305Let’s tax major investment firms and hedge funds tax banks and venture capitalists and AI companies. Tax the rich sounds nice but that could mean that some bastard trying to support a family of 5 on 100k a year could get hit harder
>>535140305if rich gets taxed heavily then why would anybody want to be become wealthy when its not rewarding. Seems like just an excuse for jews to keep people poor and to prevent others from suceeding
>>535142418>why would anybody want to be become wealthy when its not rewarding.If you get taxed you dont get wealthy so you dont get taxed
do it see if i give a fuck
>>535142207>They make up for the taxes by paying off officials and near vassalage wages.You need many contacts to make this work and the chinese will force you as a foreigner to accept very bad deals. Salaries are much higher than they used to, approaching korean levels. China just isnt receptive to foreigners, and they have higher taxes than in the US, theres no point in moving there as a rich person.The rich sometimes move to Dubai, personally, but they dont have businesses in Dubai, its just a residence.
>>535141728>>535141861>zoom zoom's first stab at understanding multinational corporations Never heard of Alphabet, I see.
>>535142203>All powerless methods against a wealth tax.Not at all. You can't tax something if it legally doesn't exist on paper. That's how putting your assets in a trust works. This is how families like the Rockefeller family have controlled trillions of dollars in assets for several decades now while no one cares. All anyone knows about the Rockefeller family are their myriad of "philanthropy" projects that only serve to hide a small proportion of their money publicly through un-taxed organizations.Ferdinand Lundberg even wrote a book about this called The Rockefeller Syndrome.>Wealth tax is simple, sees wealth, takes some of it.You obviously don't know how these loopholes work.>Dont even bother to check who owns it.Sounds nice, but that is not how shell companies, philanthropic organizations, and legal trusts work. They exist for the sole purpose of preventing this kind of targeted taxation on wealth.>Oh the wealth belongs to a foundation? >Still taken.This will never happen. But, like I said. Go ahead and try. I think the rich want this. Let's accelerate
>>535142843idiot, we're talking about taxing people (the rich), not multi-national corporations. focus up here. you're embarrassing yourself.
>>535140305we already do you stupid broke af absolute niggerfaggotall fields
>>535140305>Federal reserve notes aren't wealth/value, they represent literally nothing>Rich people don't have wealth in (((money))) >Taxes are to jew you specifically out of wealth and prevent asset accumulation >The government (all) EXCLUSIVELY generates revenue through debt and inflation in their currencies because central bank printed (((money))) isn't real (((Tax the rich))) in the fake money they make you use as part of a grand hijacking of the enlightenment that took place between 1870 and 1920 all across the civilized world is retarded. As is wealth taxes which no one with wealth will ever pay, but you would as a further depth of slavery.
>>535141884>tax assetsYeah, just make it impossible to build wealth, that'll encourage investment in the stock market. People totally won't start getting violent when the government starts grabbing shit they own.>notices flag Ah that makes sense
>>535142910>rless methods against a wealth tax.>Not at all. You can't tax something if it legally doesn't exist on paper.Real estate exists in the real world and also on paper since its all registered. Doesnt matter who owns it.You can hide ownership of some house behind 7 proxies but the house is still there very real on the street. It gets taxed or just taken full, unless the owner steps forward to make his case.Stocks in corporations cant be hidden, as they are in broker registrars. Just skim 1% of them every year.
>>535140305We already do.
>>535143062>Yeah, just make it impossible to build wealth,Just harder, not impossible. But if you insist, yes, the wealth tax rate can get higher than the average wealth returns, it will shrink the wealth over time.
>>535140305Because you are a socialist faggot who does not attack the underlying issue at hand which is the financial system as a whole because by doing so you would be called a nazi, anti-semite jew-hater which is frightening to you.
People stop playing on top heavy servers. They won't tolerate a server reset that lets the top players keep all their gear and gold
>>535140305Why would they stay?
>>535141302>Just accept your crumbs hoy, you can't change nothing I swear gringoys are the worst, this is why the worship jews
>>535143179>Oh no goy, it's just going from nearly impossible to virtually impossibleLook, kike, we don't have to engage your pilpul anyway. We can just point to the fact that EVERY SINGLE TIME anyone has ever "taxed the rich" that tax has overwhelmingly been borne by the middle class, not the rich. The most recent example being NYC. Fuck off and give all your money to the US government instead of mine.
>>535143014Oh yeah, I forgot about all those rich small town independent businessmen and the homeless.
>>535143552we get it - you're a turbo fag. you can move along now.
>>535142004so you think 90 percent of all money should be taxed and put under government control? sounds pretty stupid to me, but i guess thats the leftist mindset.
>>535143678I'm not hard set on 90%. I was working with the numbers the other anon used and rough estimates. But in general, my position is that the ultrawealthy 1% should be taxed at a disproportionately high amount. I don't believe in any sort of wealth equality or wealth equity where everyone has the same amount of money. There will always be wealth inequality, but the sheer amount of wealth inequality that we have in the US is as extreme as it is unsustainable, and I would be okay with taxing the 1% on the majority of their income until we correct that problem
>>535140305Because you can't.The globalized system was designed so that capital can always flee to seek a better deal elsewhere.It put the people of the world in competition for who would better serve capital.>hurr durr it's fine we'll coordinate with foreign governments representing 8 billions people to finally tax the rich and crack down on international organized financial crime in hundreds of countries to make sure they don't bypass it like they always do even though we can't even get this straight in our own countryI hate the left.
>>535140305Sooner or later you run out of other people's money retard.The rich used to be considered over $5milThen it was moved to over $1milThen it was moved to over $500KBiden was talking about it being people with over $250KPretty soon it will be people with over 9000 and then the real fight begins.
>>535143678>so you think 90 percent of all of MY money should be taxed and put under government control?>even though I exploited Africans and transformed them into ultra NIGGERS?!>T-that sounds like gommunists
>>535143094People already pay taxes on stocks and real estate. If you put taxes and real estate in a trust, they continue to be taxed. However, the individual(s) beneficiary (beneficiaries) of that trust are not taxed because those assets don't exist in their name. They still benefit from those assets, but they are not getting taxed as if they are receiving any of that benefit. Again, you don't seem to understand how this game is played. In the US, you could create an S corp to dodge taxation. The assets still exist, but they do not exist as being subjected to the kind of taxation that you intend to impose. But, like I said. Go ahead. Do it.
>>535144301>Current taxation is inefficient >Ergo, I can't be doneGringoys... Why are you like this?
>>535143485Yes, because within the framework that is the only funds available which in essence just means a bigger lower class. If a socialist truly understood how the financial system works he would stop being a socialist.
>>535143394>vote for my retarded socialist policies>they're not gonna change anything eitherand he calls me a goy
>>535140305because the slave doesn't tell the God emperors (stockholders) how it's gonna bewhat world do you live on?
>>535144748>Votes >H-he is just waiting for change! Just like me!
>>535144896>mexicants still lick cartel boots>talks about making changeis that why your country looks like my toilet after a night of taco bell?
>>535144991>said the American>stuck sucking jew ans jeet assholeswhy does new jersey have the second largest hindu temple in the world?why has Texas become India?why are all our gas stations run my jeet ethnic mafias?what are the guns for?
>>535143673>ad hominem Concession accepted.
>>535140305do you like paying income tax? The constitution made it clear that income tax is illegal.then an idiot like you came shouting tax the rich! and changed the constittuion. Now the rich pay fuck all and you and me get fucked. same thing will happen with wealth tax, enjoy selling your home to the rich to pay it.
>>535141540Commie kike lies again. I'm right and you are wrong. Historical precedent proves I'm correct. Why would you even open your foreskin slurping cock holster?
>>535140305It is not in your power to steal from professional thieves kek.Now, a one time "revolution" wealth grab may work (unlikely as it is) but you are NOT going to basically enslave your country's financial aristocracy. It's contradiction in terms; plebs is for paying taxes, not them.
>>535141307FixedNow it doesn't look like total shit anymoreFaggot
>>535140305Because I'm going to get promoted and get a big raise and become "rich" any day now, and I don't want my hypothetical wealth to be taxed.
>>535145557btw, the best you imbeciles can realistically achieve is not collecting taxes from ANYBODY.You would benefit immensely from that arrangement, but you are too stupid to realize that.
>>535144991That picture quality sucks -- use this one insteadThe shit you people actually post
>>535140433fpbp
>>535140305Because they should be all killed We are past beyond just taxing themTorture, rape and murder
>>535146108YWDS
>>535140305>Explain why we shouldn't tax the hell out of the rich.Because you're economically illiterate and don't even understand that what you're describing isn't possible. What do you even mean by "tax"? For most people, it means the government gets some percentage of their income as they receive it.The rich don't have income. They have assets. Even if those assets can be thought of as cash (hint: they can't), "taxing" assets in that manner isn't taxation at all. Just confiscation. But say you don't care, because you're a lizard-brained barbarian hellbent on making everyone as poor as you... their assets are imaginary papers that say they own companies. Companies built on top of imaginary assets like intellectual property and patents and licenses. You'd be confiscating nothing at all.And you can't even understand this because you truly are nigger-brained retarded.
>>535145098>posts seethe>country is ran by a literal jewess
>>535147320>>posts seethe>>country is ran by a literal jews
>>535147089>"taxing" assets in that manner isn't taxation at allThat's a lot of time spent calling someone else retarded while you're dropping turds like this lol
>>535147559>That's a lot of time spentWhatever nigger-brain. Got anything else stupid to say? Maybe you'll tax all of Elon Musk's SpaceX shares away from him and the government can buy you free gibs with the stock certificates?
>>535147902>NOOOOOOOOOO DON'T TAX THE LITERAL RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE SOON TO BE WORLD'S FIRST TRILLIONARE????????
>>535148154>>NOOOOOOOOOO DON'T TAX THE LITERAL RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD!!!!What the fuck does "LITERAL" mean to a pants-on-head retarded zoomer like you? Do you think he has cash? Is there a bank account somewhere with $200 billion dollars in it? Does he have $200 billion worth of silver coins in his sock drawer?If his "wealth" can change day to day without him owning any less or any more of *anything*, it's not even real wealth, dumbass. It's just a fucking video game score. And you're just too stupid to understand it.
Just submit to your betters
>>535148361I hope for your sake that this is a troll and that you're not about to make me explain to you what a simple things like "net worth" or "capital gains". Again, you really need to stop spending so much time calling other people retarded when you out yourself as an actual retard in every post
>>535140931Vince McMahon is a psychopath.
OP here. Look, if something isn't done, like wealth redistribution, there were be a revolution. It's happened over and over and over. Russia, China, Cuba, Iran, the Norks, and the good ole' USA. But if wealth concentration continues unabated, revolution will be inevitible.
>>535140305You spend too much.
>>535140305The government will waste the money anyway. And government needs to be less fiscally irresponsible and more constrained in its scope.Nevermind that nobody can define what "rich" is or how to do so without carve-outs or exemptions.
because you're not at your parking spot
After world War 2 the top marginal tax bracket was taxed at 90% to pay for the war. We had the same debt to gdp ratio that we have now and the middle class was as big as it would ever be.
>>535140305Given the rich seem to be under the impression that their perspectives and interferences on and in the political economic system is their privilege given their wealthy status , increased prosperity = more input, with increased prosperity comes increased responsibility to the system that facilitated their success
Why would we raise taxes when the funds aren't going to be used responsibly? You could tax all the rich people 90% on every dollar and it still wouldn't help regular people. All the money would be shit away on war, "foreign aid", and grants for retarded social engineering.
>>535140931>leaveGood. Fuck off. You weren't valuable except to tranny shareholders or kikes anyway
>>535140305Every dumb shit retarded amerimutt thinks they're two weeks away from becoming a trillionaire
>>535140305who are you going to tax when people realize being rich isn't worth the hard work?
>>535140305We should in theory, but there are pressures like competition between countries.The real redpill is to be for one world government so tax havens can't exist anymore.FUCK YOU CAYMAN ISLANDSFUCK YOU BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS
>>535140305billionaires now have worshippers. you will need to contend with their retarded minions before you can even get near the epstein class.
>>535145203kike hands typed this post
>>535149097This is a huge part of it. Something about temporary embarrassed millionaires...
>>535149120>I'll only have four yachts instead of eight guess I won't work anymore
>just give the government more money and they'll fix their spending problems
>>535149049this.billionaires are contributing nearly nothing to the average american. they keep their gains and look to extract every penny of value from the custormers, suppliers, employees, and everyone else.they are net drain on everyone's wealth but their own. let them leave. we'll be better off.>inb4 muh job-creatorslmao
>>535149097Now this comes from pure propaganda and a low IQ population binging off of lottery tickets in the hopes they'll make it rich. MY boomoid parents do this shit.
>>535149291Infinite spending is allowed as long as the most powerful military is there to back the government.Are you educated?
>>535149396lol, no i cant even read bro
>>535149631Get back to work, Newsom! You big fucking faggot!!!!!!!
>>535149049California and New York would beg (literally, in NY's case) to differ.I'm not saying the rich deserve their money, I'm saying taxing them more won't accomplish anything.They have more resources and better accountants/lawyers than you do.
because i don't want their money to go to israel, that's like realizing your arm is infected and then amputating your foot
