Oh wait nevermind that’s what Catholics and orthodox do with Mary.
>>535142903Before 1545, the church burned mary worshipers. what changed? Women got property rights. The Church sold the faith again out of greed and made Mary a God. 1832 Pope Gregory XVI takes a loan from the Rothchild bankers with secret side agreements. 1839 Mississippi allows married women to own property in their own name. 1848 New York Married women's property act. 1849 Pope Piux IX Ubi Primum Mary without original sin. 1854 Pope Pius IX Ineffabilis Deus The Immaculate Conception of Mary1887 Pope Leo XIII decree of Canonical Coronation for the 1531 "Our Lady of Guadalupe"1897 Pope Leo XIII Augustissimae Virginis Mariae1904 Pope Pius X Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum1946 Pope Pius XII Deiparae Virginis Mariae Assumption of Mary question1954 Pope Piux XII Mary queen of heaven.Marion apparitions started in the 16th century, with lies being told that they happened earliuer e.g. Our Lady of Guadalupe was said to occur in 1531 but no one knew about it until 1887, from a suspect Pope. Yes, all Popes from Gregory XVI on are suspect. Many Marion apparitions were done by freemasons e.g. Fatima. It's totally fake1) The Lord said he would send the Holy Ghost, never mention his mother. All Church divine revelation comes from the Seat of Saint Peter, not a survey of the Bishops of other places. 2) Council of trent: no Saint can give you promises, so everyone with promises are false. 3) Asking any saint for more than prayers is praying to a false god.
>>535142903You fucking Protestant kike faggot! That’s Jesus mother
>>535143620Yes. But worshiping her is forbidden by the Church. Council of Trent.
>>535143688At her word Jesus Christ performed good first public miracle. Through the prayers of the Theotokos, Lord have mercy on us. Prayer for intercession is far from worship as God. There is only one God.
>>535143533even so much as asking saints to pray for you is idolatry.Jesus Christ is the mediator and intercessor between man and God the Father, nobody else.
>>535143861Jesus was chill. Lay off the vengeful God porn
>>535143620the person behind the idol is not Mary, its Semiramis/Innana/Isis. you dishonor Mary by worshiping this "queen of heaven" in her name.Jeremiah 7 and 44, read it.
Trump gets buttfucked by jews and worships the talmud
>>535142903a person can't be an idol, dipshit
>>535142903i do that for Hitler, i am not larping/trolling
What people are commenting on is that the Protestants, who frequently ridicule Catholics (i.e. what's left of the Christians) for worshiping Mary (rightly so, but it's a new thing due to greed of the popes) literally are worshiping Trump
>>535143804The faith comes from the Bible and the Popes. You are deceived by apparent "miracles"
DIVIDE AND CONQUER THREAD
>>535144218>faith comes from the popesjust another form of idolatry.faith is given by God.
>>535143951keep in mind that "Pope" was a marxist, confessed Freemason beliefs, and put a Pagan Idol on the Alter of Saint Peter.
>>535142903why is her tits so small? The mother of Jesus shouldn't be having small tits. God would never impregnate a woman with flat tits.
>>535144334I said the Bible and Popes. Why do you have to twist the words like a satan? Bible says you have a church with priest who can forgive sins and that divine reveleations will be revealed to the Popes by the Paraclete (the Holy Ghost). You don't believe the bible because your god is luther and the talmudist
>>535144545>Bible says you have a church with priest who can forgive sinsnope, every believer in Christ is a priest that can forgive personal sins, not blanket forgive sins.>reveleations will be revealed to the Popesnope, there are no more revelations needed, the Word closes with the Book of Revelation. its finished.see, this is the error of listening to the pope instead of the bible. your place the pope before the Word and thus fall for doctrines of demons.roman catholocism is a cult.
>>535144302These are the people posting in ptg
>>535144722>nope, there are no more revelations needed, the Word closes with the Book of Revelation. its finished.Is that what the Book Of Revelation says? Because when I read it, it says this in picrel
>>535145384>two witnessedcleary the revealed Word in the Reformation and the Word witnessing against the apostate church.or do you think there will be two humans breathing fire aswell?
>>535144722Not that I'm defending the pope, but only pointing out inconsistencies. I know full well that the pope is an idolator.
JESUS' MOTHER IS A NIGGER, FUCK HER >CHRIST IS KING
>>535142903>worshipping foidCuck pilled. (Literally since she raised a bastard while slutting it up as a 14 year old).
>>535142903> Comparing Donald Trump to The Virgin MaryThis argument is not the win you seem to think it is.
>>535143861Asking servants of God to pray for you comes from the book of Job. Bible and Pope. Not self appointed "Pope Anons"
>>535144722Christ did not act in vain when he chose apostles and created the church. Your god is luther. You lie that you're a Christian.
>>535145548you guys are big on taking that out of Context. Christians don't call priests "Father" until they're ordained, when the Holy Ghost is breathed into them. We call God the Holy Ghost "Father" and God dwells in the priests. The priest are still mortal men for sure, But the purpose of Mathew 23 was to preach against social clubs... you know that "Christian fellowship" you godless prots are always on about.
>>535143533>1839 Mississippi allows married women to own property in their own name.so what?
>>535144405>hiding his cross from his master
>>535146205What happens is that women outlive their husbands, and inherit all his property. To attract old women, the Church added a goddess, pure and simple. Now old women leave endowments to the church when they die. It's all based on greed. Ignore all Popes after Gregory XVI.
>>535145486There's several bible verses saying that the 2 olive trees and the 2 lampstands are the Christian Church. It's my belief based on scripture from the prophets, that the Tribulation Saints are the 2 witnesses. Some people theorize that they're the 144 sealed, some theorize that they're the entire Church, all that are sealed by God. >the seven lampstands are the seven churches - rev1:20>The olive trees are Israel and then later the church (The Grafted Tree)- Jeremiah 11:16-17, Ezekiel 37:16-22, > Rev 10:11 “You must again prophesy about many peoples and nations and languages and kings.”>Zechariah 4:1-12 - The 2 golden lampstands>Matthew 5:14-16 - The Christians are the lamp to light the wayThere's several other verses evidence to the Church giving witness during the Great Tribulation, I'll have to find them again.
>>535146122Fuck right off. You heap to yourselves teachers of your own heart, you care not the meanings of the words. You want your idols, and they'll be your own destruction. When your pope tells you to take the Mark Of The Beast, you'll do it, because you idols mean more to you than the warnings you've been given.
>>535146249It's just a sodomite cross anyway. I really cannot believe that Frank could say 1) Jews go to heaven even if they reject the sacrifice of Christ (but I'm going to hell for being late to mass)2) sodomy is not a sin. 3) the pagan idol Pachamama is "Our lady of the Amazon". 4) FORCES the FSSP to say that the Novus Ordo mass is a valid mass (this is forbidden by the council of Trent)5) reverses Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus6) Says the Catholic church is just another Church7) was a Marxists.And then Father says that because I won't accept him as Pope, I can't take communion. That's a question of fact, not faith or morals.
>christcuckery is white man's religion
>>535146604I don't even know what you're on about. You seem upset that I read all of Mathew 23 and not picked words out of context.
>>535146749Pope Leo told them to stay home.Seems the "Faith" can change with the pope in the novus ordo church
>>535145911>Asking servants of God to pray for you comes from the book of Job.yes, but maybe he can be alive to be able to pray for you?why would you think a dead person can pray for you?and if you believe in the eternal soul concept, why would a saint bother praying for you when he is worshiping God?wouldnt he tell you to pray to God instead?use some logic please. prayer is the breathed out words by a person that is alive.
>>535145985>let me project my own idolatry on yourselfyou arent even able to think outside of this idolatrous system or get the concept of a person having access to God without a person in between. this is sad.
>>535147062Epistle of Jude. Invicible blasphamy from demonic creature encountered.Mindless ranting ignored.
>>535145486>or do you think there will be two humans breathing fire aswell?The Christians that are marked by God directly, they'll spit fiery words out. Things that make idolators angry and want to kill them for it, just as the edomite jews did when talking to Jesus. As for those words having the power to ignite the flesh of an idolator wishing them harm? Probably. Likely. There's no reason that it wouldn't be like that in the near future. When their testimony (and according to the text: prophecy) is completed, Satan will murder them, and the idolators will give gifts to each other, because they'll finally be free to seek their idols again without the truth bringing them pain. 8 times the edomite jews sought to kill Jesus for telling them the truth. All he did was shined a light on their idolatry, and it brought on the will of them to murder him.
>>535146980Book of revelations. The dead pray for us in Heaven.The rest of your stuff... kinda schizo because delusional. You've lost it. Cognitive dissonance. .
>>535146491yes, but you confuse Churches with institutions, buildings or denominations.a Church is an assembly of believers in Jesus Christ, not an organization.the important thing about the two witnesses is that they are dead for 3 days and he people being merry about it and celebrating.the papacy was able to rid the world of the preached true Word of God for 3 years and celebrated their victory until the reformation started. it was the roman church that succeeded in killing the Word and it being preached. God raised it up from the dead.the two witnesses are the Word and it being preached by people.
>>535146803Have you ever said a hail marry? Have you kissed an idol? Have you ever called a priest "father"?
>>535147184what about Jude? nothing wrong with it or any of it disproving sola scriptura.>hurr youre a demon if you disagree with metypical roman catholic. zero sense.
>>535143861Why? I've asked my friends to pray for me when I needed it. What's the difference?
>>535147226yes, and it was fulfilled in history already. the true Word and it being preached was killed by papal rome and they celebrated.>>535147275no they do not, they plead with God but not on behalf of men. they are the martyrs whos blood cries out from earth just as Abal cried out from the ground after being killed.
>>535147365It says to stay away from railing people like yourself. You cannot be saved, and you're dangerous to body and soul of the faithful. >>535147321Hail Mary is two lines from the Bible and asking Mary to pray for us now and at the time of our death. What are you objecting to? The Bible in Matthew and Job?And I said read all of Matthew Chapter 23.
>>535147275you have zero basis on the Word, you just make shit up as you go along to justify your cult blasphemies.
>>535147409he is alive and able to pray for you. thats the difference.
>>535147365No, you're a demon because I quote scripture and you deny it and rant in anger.
>>535142903>My interpretation of the kike book of fairy tales is more correct than your interpretation of the kike book of fairy tales.Do you cucks ever give it a rest?
>>535147515I am already saved. also you are the one that teaches blasphemy, not me.you have zero defense or basis in the word, youre a pagan.
>>535147519How is that even an argument?There's no premise, no logic, just an conclusion you made up.
>>535147636how about you read Revelation then? where does it say the people under the altar pray for people or answer prayers?its nowhere.
>>535147608>I am already saved.Hubris. You can't possibly know that. Judgement day hasn't happened yet. Your life is not over.
>>535147779who do you think Jesus died for on the cross?Jesus blood covers me and thus I have assurance of salvation according to the Word and the Holy Spirit working it out in me. not of my own, but God working in me.
>>535147697You're simply not making any sense. You just throw scripture out and then get all pompus, and say something delusional that might mean something to Lutherans.
>>535147891>who do you think Jesus died for on the cross?Not for people that accept Martin Luther as their Lord.
women bishops are forbidden by the bible
>>535147914Im not a Lutheran and I kept to what the Word actually says.you are making shit up about people in heaven praying for you.>>535147966good thing Jesus Christ is my Lord. stop projecting you papal worship onto me. let cesar be your lord, we are not the same.
>>535147966The verse is about people who claim to worship God but don’t have Jesus (Mormons, Muslims, Jews ect)
Tears up the Bible to please the jews to try and convert them; the sin of pride that Luther thought he was greater than Jesus my Lord
>>535147311>yes, but you confuse Churches with institutions, buildings or denominations.No I don't. I say "Church" and "Churches", I mean "Christians". I use them both synonymous when talking about the coming Church, due to the fact that when they're marked by God directly, they will have no denomination, no allegiance to the idolatrous catholicism or other versions that worship idols, such as the Tabernacle Of Moloch under the Star Of Remphan.
>>535142903OP is Jew. Statues are symbolic. Or do Jews believe that the Lincoln Memorial is regarded as Lincoln himself?
>>535148079deuterocanon wasnt even accepted as canon at the time. cope more.>>535148091my bad, I misunderstood.
>>535148032Oh here we go! The 2000 headed protest dragon. Strike one head, and it simply says "ha! That's not MY religion! Guess again Christian"Such a game. All protestants do it. They deny their faith when it's obviously wrong, but they only have one thing in common, a visceral hate and a propensity to lie about the Christian faith.
>>535148091You know Pope Frank is RIGHT THERE watching oral sex in the vatican. He was not a vicar of Christ.
>>5351481943rd century, council of Rome. If you reject that, you reject Matthew 16
>>535148170>Statues are symbolic.then ask yourself why there are to fascia below Lincolns hands. thats the spirit behind the statue.>>535148200>I cant fathom that people put their faith in Christ alone and dont group themselves into denominations like sheep for the slaugthersad
>>535148170It's a fucking temple. It's an idol. Literally says it right on the inscription over the top of the fucking thing.
>>535142903Mary's a pretty cool girl, she makes godkings and doesn't afraid of anything
>>535142903>worshiping mary is wrong because its wrongthis is how proteshits argue
>>535148305I reject Romes interpretation of Matthew 16.it doesnt read>you are Peter and on this Rock I will build YOUR Church
>>535148500its wrong because God says so in his law.
>>535143533absolutely bullshit we have always venerated Mary as the highest saint since the 1st century you filthy lying zog prot. if you mean worship her as a God obviously you would be killed for that, but thats not what you mean is it, with your 40 year old non denom rock church religion.
>>535143620she was a kike whore who lied about getting knocked up by god btw
>>535148374The Lord Jesus Christ, the word of God, existed before Mary. She was just the vehicle for His Incarnation as Man. Her virtues as a saint was obedience and humility. That's the exact opposite of Mary worshipers' beliefs where she can stay the wrath of God the Father himself (Fatima), bypass the Judgement of the Lord (Brown Scapular), and is co-redemtrix (Pius XII). I'll give the protestant bros that one, that there is too much Mary worship. They lie like demons from hell about everything else. They're tiresome and wicked
>>535148500worship the Triune God only. After 1830, they added a 4th person of God to the Trinity The Vatican appealed to the pride of women out of greed.
Pic related is the idol of the Juden. Symbolic? Not at all. Jews put the baby in the bull, burn it as an offering to Moloch. Demons bring them wealth. Very practical.We are simply more practical and discreet with our idolatry.
>>535148562Yeah yeah,. You kill babies. Go away.
>>535148348Yes, it's literally Lincoln himself.
>>535148552the law says you should not make images, not only of things in heaven, but on earth as wellwe mock muslims for not allowing images of animate beings, but the same thing applies here
>>535148665>>535148770then why do you fight for the vatican and its interpretation so vehemently?you reject mary worship but back the one that pushes it. that makes no sense.
>>535148870it also says to not consult the dead. its detestable.
>>535148870>the law says you should not make graven images,Fify. Can't make idols. Like what pope frank put on the alter of Saint Peter. Like the golden calf. Like the golden statue of Trump. Even priest tell you it's just a statue...
>>535142903Good Mother Mary gave you the prophet
>>535142903Orthodox don't have statues, only we do!Seethe more filthy heretic lying judaized prot!
>>535142903Oh look, another jewish D&C thread. How many anons are dumb enough to fall for it?
>>535142903>>535144021Mudshits can't grasp the concept that you worship the person the object represents, not the object itself.
>>535148970we dont do thatwe remember and pray for the dead
>>535148883Shalom. Thou shalt not kill only applies to the goyim, as you know, speaking of der Law
>>535148883I argue for the faith. I point to what is the faith and what isn't.Mostly, the faith is found in the Council of Trent. You don't share the Christian faith. You're some sort of Protestant with different gods, and you won't even say what your faith is least I tell you why it's wrong I'm tired of the rabid lies of the Protestants. Yes, you got the Catholics on Mary worship, that's always been a problem and it only became a problem in the last 200 years when the Church started grubbing for money.
>>535149150asking saints to pray for you is consulting the dead.also purgatory isnt real, praying for the dead does nothing for them.
>>535148665What's Christianity without a little paganism
>>535142903I don't see any problem with that
>>535149034you saying toys and action figures are bad?
>>535142903Catholics are showing respect to the mother of Jesus. Trump is a corrupt slave of Israel and pedophile.
>>535149223you dont even follow the 10 commandments of God, you follow the 10 commandments of the pope.man is your God, not the God of the bible. and you have the gall to accuse me of being an idolater.>and you won't even say what your faith ismy faith is in Jesus Christ and the inspired Word alone. I dont follow doctrines, traditions and teachings of men, only the ones of God.
>>535143861>Jesus Christ is the mediator and intercessor between man and God the Father, nobody else.That's where you're wrong buckoJesus is God incarnateAnd not only can you pray His Saints and His Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother to intercede on your behalf but you must absolutely do so. It shows respect to Him His Saint and His Holy Mother and you increase your chances od Salvation.A man tends to listen to his mother and friends especially when they gave their life for him moreso God Incarnate.Like at Cana wedding for instance.
>>535149227>purgatory isnt real, praying for the dead does nothing for them.So sayeth the Talmud. But why are you consorting with filthy goyim in this thread? Let us trick them, steal their children for sacrifice to Ba'al, and solicit demon money.
>>535149227either way, dead ancestors are what connects your blood to the other sideevery home even in protestant countries used to have a room or at least a shrine dedicated to them
Nobody's worshiping Mary you retard. Veneration isn't worship.
>>535143951>behind the idol is Semiramis/Innana/Isis.>Reee, it's someone else bc I said sot. retard> "queen of heaven" She is>dishonor Marythat's what only jews and rheir golem prots do
>>535147914Western Civilization has fallen.
>>535149377Youre not even making sense, and it's clear you;re just ranting at the Christian faith.You deny the Christ's words in Matthew 16, where he creates ONE church, with Simon Peter as the rock. You claim that Jesus acted in vain. And when I give you the point of Mary worship and say it's wrong, you continue to rant like I didn't, a lie
>>535144545>Why do you have to twist the words like a satan? Bc he lives to do his masters will
>>535149811how would you know that the ROMAN church is the Church Christ founded? just because they tell you so? then why do they blaspheme God by changing his law?>Whereas the Catechism’s traditional presentation of the commandments for memorization are:>1. I am the Lord your God: You shall not have strange Gods before me.>2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.>3. Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.>4. Honor your father and mother.>5. You shall not kill.>6. You shall not commit adultery.>7. You shall not steal.>8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.>9. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.>10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.
The history of the Jesuits is one of pride and greed. They perverted the mass in India, Japan and China to appeal to the pagansWhen the Jesuits were accused in an anonymous book of using the confessional as a source of blackmail to extort money, they didn't deny it, they only asked which prince accused them of itAs an order, they didn't do the exercises to build humility as other orders had done. The Church almost disbanded them, but the Jesuits did a coup on the Church. And Pope Gregory tried to change the faith to allow usury in 1832, even though Jesus Christ rejected the devil's promise of Temporal power in the gospelsThe change to mary worship was, as I have argued, done out of greed.
>>535144722>nope, every believer in Christ is a priest that can forgive personal sins, not blanket forgive sins.LIAR16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not [g]prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth [h]will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”Only the Apostles not every believer.You and all the prots are the sons of lie and do the will of your father, the devil, who was a murderer from the beginning and the father of lies.
>>535149609>its veneration Looks the same as worshiping a statue to me
>>535150034>then why do they blaspheme God by changing his law?Now there's coffee all over my screen. Don't do that. Okay, I'll ask the obvious that you haven't said:Which of God's commandments do you think I'm not obeying? You never said which one.
>>535150377>2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.got removed.>4. Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.changed into keeping the Lords day holy.no idea what you are laughing about, this is serious business concerning your soul.
>>535150261exactly. And the keys to heaven were given to Saint Peter, and from Saint Peter to Saint Linus, establishing a line of Vicars of Christ that was mostly unbroken (a few obvious examples, one around the 11th century that was epic not a vicar)
you prot zog israeli jew rock church people will never stop seething. you have no sacraments, no true grace, no theosis, NO HISTORY. you're Church is 50 years old MAX. if any of you approached the Holy Apostles they would not recognise you. you dont beleive in baptismal regeneration, you dont beleive in the episcopate YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THE REAL CANON. you are an ahistorical abberation heretical cult. even Lutherans. Catholics are schismatic but at least they beleive a lot of the same things as the church of the first thousand years. they are at least recognisable. repent and read the church fathers and church history, leave your faggot influencers like Ruslans the rap church wigger behind.
Another thread of Fairy Tale delusion and role-players arguing about the role-playing mechanism>no, my way is the right role-playing way!>no, that's mine!>not a chance, I'm the only one following the guidelines here!kek
>>535142903To be fair, you are comparing people worshipping mysticism and people worshipping observable retards.
>>535143533>Asking any saint for more than prayers is praying to a false god.Checked and I know of any single prayer to a saint that isn't an invocation of Christ the asking the saint for their additional prayers
>>535143620P*otestants forget that even Martin Luther said the path to Christ was through Mary
>>535150544graven. That means an idol. I keep saying don't worship Mary, and you keep saying that I worship a Mary idol. This is because you're hateful and a liar. Yeah. Christians still called themselves Judeans up until about the 2nd century. Seems the Roman emperor got angry that the Talmudist were murdering pagan Romans, Judeans, etc and went to Judea and terminated them. The Judeans called themselves Christians, moved Easter from Passover, and changed the day of worship since they had an allergy of hungry lions. Had a pope, he gave this his blessings. I have to confess, I don't respect you at all.
>>535150759He said lots of retarded stuff and then changed his mind later though
>>535142903Mary went to Hell for sexually abusing Jesus with circumcision
>>535146980>maybe he can be aliveDenying Eternal Life. You talk like a jew.Lo and behold Matthew 22:32‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”>why would a saint bother praying for you when he is worshiping God?Bc He or She is a Saint and that's what being a Saint means, that's what Saints do and that's what worshipping God implies amongst others - helping out with Salvation.But you jew wouldn't know that since there is nothing Holy about you and your jew demon dogma.
>>535150759Odd. The Vatican didn't say that until the 1950s.
>>535150802>and you keep saying that I worship a Mary idolI didnt say that, stop making shit up.I am saying you are under law of man instead of Gods law by obeying the pope as authority.under Gods law we are to keep the sabbath day, not sunday.>I have to confess, I don't respect you at all.because you hate the Truth and the Word is the Truth.
>>535142903i mean im not even religious. i literally think shes just some girl who got raped when romans sacked her town, and joe felt bed and didnt want her to have to live as a pariah or prostitute or whateverbut like, wtf could possibly be WRONG with mary? if anything shes one of the more benign and wholesome parts of the whole story
>>535150974>I didnt say that, stop making shit up.I'm just gonna block you. You're hateful and a liar.
>>535150974books and laws are likewise written by men
>>535147551>he is alive and able to pray for youSaints in Heaven are very much alive, He is a God of the living.Soul is eternal and after the Final Judgement so will the body. Your heresy is an abomination. You truly deserve the burning on the stake.
>>535151160the law was given by God, not man. it was him personally that wrote it on the tablets.
>>535151206where are the tablets
>>535151273most likely destroyed.God writes his law on the hearts of man now.
>>535151015What does reality have to do with religion? Religion is the core value of a culture, in the anthropological sense. All human societies past the stone age had religion. It evolved with our creation. It religion defines how we socially interact, what is expected and what is taboo. Religions evolve, they are shaped by the world around us; they help us to survive.And I rightly believe that people such as yourself ought to be burned at the stake for trying to destroy the culture by undermining the religion. Our culture has already fallen to extinction level birth rates, and you're egging it on.
>>535151119you have no arguments.
>>535143688good thing protestants separated from the roman catholic church to be closer to jews.
>>535151366This whole thread is cursed and full of idiots.
>>535151336which means that as long as you confide in jesus christ, you'll never transgress this lawi think that is incorrect
>>535143533>3) Asking any saint for more than prayers is praying to a false god.THIS, Intercession is good. You are to pray for your brothers in Christ. Asking St.Jamal of Detroit to return your stolen bike? Idolatry, simple as.
>>535143533Your jewish lies are so transparent. Fortunately, clankers see through your bullshit.>This timeline is an interesting mix of highly accurate historical markers and some massive, conspiratorial leaps in logic. You have nailed the specific dates of several papal encyclicals, a famous bank loan, and U.S. property acts, but the narrative connecting them relies on historical errors and a few theological misunderstandings.
>>535151359ok so youre just batshit and fucking retarded then. cool. got it.im sure everyones just chomping at the bit to go join your meme heresy bro. GL with that
>>535151533the law was given for your benefit, not as a burden. the law serves man, not man serving the law.breaking the law forfeits that benefit.
>>535151476Yeah.
>>535147608>I am already saved.So what the fuck are you doing here moron? Enjoy your alleged salvation and let us struggle for ours.Truly pride is the gravest sin.Just like those covid imbeciles. Oy vey take the shot so mine can work.GTFO here. Dog dies worrying about his master an arrogant fool dies worrying about others.>>535147697>where does it say the people under the altar pray for people or answer prayers?What else would a Saint who is already in Heaven together with God, do? He or She doesn't need anything anymore as is One with God.
>>535151533You're human. How do you know the law? Protestants say you just know it. And there are 2000 different faiths resulting. Nope. Christ made one church for a reason.
>>535147891Pride
>>535148552The Great Tribulation will be brought around because (((They))) made void God's law.
>>535151643if something benefits man, he'll desire more of itafter that he'll want none of iteven in spirit, line go up is bspeople dont exist to be served
>>535151925>How do you know the law?by reading Exodus 20.
>>535142903Orthodox don't do statues
>>535152120if you would know you would know.
>>535149609>Veneration isn't worshipYes it is. In Revelation, the Mark Of The Beast and worship of the Image Of The Beast are synonymous for a reason.
>>535148512>I reject Romes interpretation of Matthew 16.So you are a jew. Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.Mathew 18And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.You jew are a blatant liar twisting the Word of God and a demon worshiper filled with hate and pride.
redditards say this and then worship a rich actors on a tv screen telling them to inject themselves with foreign substances
>>535142903Mary didn’t rape children though.Kneel before the alter of Trump and Epstein, loser. Enjoy the spunk.
>>535148552>its wrong because God says so in his law.It doesn't. God listens to His Holy Mother just like He did in Cana at the wedding. Best wine ever too.
>>535142903So looking for equivalence between Catholicism and your obsession with Trump. You’re in a cult. Own it.
>>535152167i see the connection between that belief and the awful greed of western countries todayexcuse me but its a detriment for most people
>>535148770>After 1830, they added a 4th person of GodLie
>>535152431the western world is secular and thus it results in greed. the law does not promote greed.
>>535148970>consultNobody's consultingWe pray for the dead.Their soul is alive.Saints are alive in Heaven and have great status with God. They can intercede fo the souls of our loved ones.Simple as.You are alone and delusional. We don't know eacother now but when you'll cross to the other side we'll meet and you will see the errors of your ways.
>>535152164They do Icons. One of the things prots can't understand is that not all people could read in any language in the past. People with a low IQ can't grasp the concept of the past being different. So, the Church had statues and icons to help explain things.Those that could read were usually taught by the Church, and that means at least Latin (Western) or Greek (Eastern), plus the native language of where they were to serve the church. One language meant that there was no corruption via "translation" e.g. the "King James Version", which isn't even a bible. The original text of the true Bible from the 2nd council of Rome was THE BIBLE. It is a common lie of the protestants that the Church put the bible in dead languages to keep the common folks from reading it. It was to stop the bible from being perverted, which the Protestants did. There are literally hundreds of protestant bibles. Christians only have two: One Latin, one Greek.
>>53515237946 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
>>535152526perhaps i misunderstoodyou said the law serves manin what way?
>>535152433Not according to the council of Trent.You can only ask Saints to pray for you. if you're going to ask for stuff, you need to pray to God. Not archangels (that's really bad), not to Saints, including Mary. No promises, no brown scapulars bypassing the Lord's judgement... that's all praying to a false god. Christians believe ALL things come from God alone. Not saint. Again, comes from the book of Job.
>>535152637Faith comes by hearing the Word of God in their language.if people only hear latin and greek they will never have faith since they dont understand it.also the Douay–Rheims Bible shows that the roman doctrine is heretical from Genesis 3 onward.>>535152726if everyone would keep all the law all the time we would not have to worry about somebody breaking in or somebody killing us or someone coveting our wife or possessions. this is true freedom, a life where you dont have to worry about any of that.this is why its called the law of liberty.
Vatican already stopped recognizing the cult of Mary. Kekaroo protestant cuckolds, stay losing with your gay pastors and unyielding loyalty to israel.
>>535142903Who is Trump the mother of? ;~P
>>535152615I think by 'consult' they mean things like the Ouija board where you communicate with the dead. Prayer to saints are "Saint Anthony, Patron of lost things, help me find my car keys". Consult is more like asking your dead father "How many children will anon have?" on the Ouija board. My sisters were wicked with that damned thing until my mother poured holy water over it
>>535152910True. They're dialing it back a bit. >>535152964Trump is the mother of all lies.
>>535152615Why don’t you just pray to Jesus? Is he not as capable as saints?
>>535153246what if hes busy?
>>535153246Because, as it says in the bible (book of Job) that if you're in mortal sin God will not hear your prayers. Theft, dishonoring your parents, coveting are pretty easy mortal sins to commit, and adultery is common even though easily avoided.And don't get me started on Aquinas... he made everything a mortal sin, even a thought would send you straight to hell, and he claimed to be perfect, which is a mortal sin according to him. Not a pope, didn't have the keys to heaven, he can't do that. Best time to pray to God is after confession, when you are forgiven your mortal sins. No, I don't think saying Pope frank isn't a real pope is a mortal sin.
>>535142903You can just Google do Catholics worship Mary. this type of post is bait, I shan't engage with slide threads of this nature any further and neither should you.
>>535153915>praying to, bowing to, lighting candles to Mary isnt worship trust usself delusion
The Catholic Church is the ONE True Church of the Almighty Most High Absolute God.Israel will cease to exist within 3 years.All anti-Christ will go to Hell.
>>535153915I thought it was a lie like all the other protestant lies. Nope. They got it right on that one. And I researched it and it does indeed go back to popes, but it's not from the Chair of Saint Peter, they "ask" the Bishops if Mary was sinless, if Mary was assumed into Heaven, etc. and the bishops say she was. It isn't the faith, legit, and these popes were deceivers. The Church turned greedy... the whole Jesuit with their selling the faith and Gregory saying Usury was no longer a sin because he needed money, then this Mary thing when the secular state started giving women property rights. Greed is behind it, and appealing to the vanity of women.
>>535142903You are just a retard who cannot distinguish between dulia, hyperdulia and latria.
==veneration and worship simplified==Left knee is veneration.Right knee & Both knees is worshipif you see someone on their right knee kneeling to anyone but God, slap them on their head and say "that's the wrong knee".
>>535154649Where in the Bible or What Pope said this?
>>535154649Christ said, "Come to me as children". Then theologians came in and perverted the word of Christ into something no one can understand, the exact opposite of what Christ told us to do. Theologians are just Pharisees. If it's not in the bible ignore it. Bible says Saint Peter has the keys, so you can't ignore saint Peter. Saint Peter named Saint Linus as the next Pope so Papal succession was established. these things you say about veneration? You don't even need to venerate saints, and if you go to far, you've offended God. Why even bother?Lets be honest, many Sainthoods were sold by the Church for money, so that rich families could buy prestige.
>>535155503>Saint Peter named Saint Linus as the next Pope so Papal succession was established.but thats not in the bible and can be ignored.
>>535155201Nicaea II, 787, 7th ecumenical councilVatican II, Lumen gentium 66Summa Theologiae II-II, q.103, a.4Summa Theologiae III, q.25, a.5>>535155503>If it's not in the bible ignore itJesus left us a CHURCH, not a book.
>>535155774the bible stands over the Church.if the Church teaches contrary to the bible it is wrong.
>>535143533christianity has always been for sale, you never noticed all those franchises? theres more jewish indoctrination center franchises than there are mcdonalds.or you never noticed how translations of the bible have their own copyrights? christianity is basically a for-profit "charity"why do you think the rothschilds keep it afloat?
>>535156033See Church as the people, not the formal institution necessarily.
>>535155774Nicaea II had no Pope, just Papal Legiates. https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum07.htmPope Hadrian just accepted they did what they did. That's why the vatican mentions it. it didn't come from the pope as said in Matthew 16Vatican II was not a council and nothing in it was made the faith. Aquinas was not a Pope, so these are irrelevant. And the Church says Bible, Bible says Pope. And also Church tradition. Faith is Bible, Popes and Church tradition.
>>535156199then especially the people have to subject themselves to the Word.
>>535142903Are you comparing Trump to Mary That can’t be healthy man
>>535156144Pope Gregory sold the faith in 1832, so it wasn't "always for sale"Protestants are not of the faith. Jewish silver created Lutheranism, and Anglicanism was founded on rape, murder and looting of churches. The actual Bible is not Copyrighted.
>>535156033The Bible was compiled by Catholics, Christcuck!
>>535151476>remove deuterocanon>Masoretic TextBased
>>535156733yes, but not roman catholics.#the original was in greek, not latin.
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