What if the German-Soviet war never happened? What if the Map stayed like this from 1940?
ZOGmerica still sends its valiant niggers to invade Europe eventually.
>>535145907poor ukies. Even in OPs ficitional map they have to suffer from russians
>>535145907>Italy>non-allignedWtf?
>>535146339This map is from direct German control not alliances
>>535145907I think that Germany gets into economic trouble because they lack resources, and they were already stripping the occupied territories to keep the economy propped up. He would most likely resort to war to gain new resources, and Eastern Europe is the obvious place to get them. So, it would probably just delay Barbarossa for a year or two.
>>535146953>eastern EuropeDid you forget theirs an entire continent in the south and a German army stationed there with th best German general called desert fox?
>>535146460Germany didn’t have direct control over Slovakia or Hungary in 1940, and never had comtrol over Bukgaria or Romania at all
>>535146225>Butthurt Belt postingWhy do zoomer hohols love playing as victims when the Ukraine was literally created by communists and Ukrainians held enormous power and influence in the USSR.
>>535147294They stationed troops there that is all this map is showing
>>535146953>because they lack resourcesThat's precisely why Nazi Germany was trading with the USSR, and why the decision to backstab the USSR was so pants on head retarded that only a methed-out dirty anglophile like Hitler could have done that.
>>535147305>Austria >butthurt beltcome back when you know shit about europe
>>535147050Getting resources out of sub-saharan Africa is going to be tough, and England still rules the waves. Rommel isn't even a good Division commander, his entire reputation is built around his exploits in France where he had a large army bringing up the rear, and his mad dashes around Libya and Egypt did nothing but wear out his forces. He gets praised for a variety of reasons, all political.
>>535145907We'd be here listening to russians say how mars is ancestral russian land since the days ivan pozdovich saw the sky for the first time
>>535147494Why do you care about hohols? They aren’t even a real nation state at this point and legit were a byproduct of Soviet stupidity.
>>535145907give me a break, Soviet Union was 1 month or so away from assaulting Germany when Barbarossa happened.
would have been based cause finland this has petsamo
>>535147494Exactly. So why are you acting like a Butthurt Belter, Mr. Mykola from Vienna Oblast?
>>535145907Then the USA wouldn’t have become a superpower. Germany would have developed nuclear weapons first and used them to intimidate the USSR or eliminate its elites. The interesting question is what would have happened to China and Japan.
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=W56ZKUVECWsEducate yourself on Sweden and their role in WW2.They'd never tell you this part of the story but it's well documented in our royal achieve.The video is in Swedish, yes. BUT it has English subtitles and I've followed them and they're accurate to what they're saying.
>>535147957Can you give me a QRD?
>>535147634hohols have been part of our monarchy for a whileAnd a lot of nice people I met are from there.>>535147817>no you have to let the soviets starve them!ok dude
>>535149657>our monarchy Sorry Hapsburg are "ours" unless you are an inbred royal. Besides this is stuff you know nothing about. Poland and Russia had an argument and both sides lost when they could not come to an agreement. Thats how Ukraine came to be. Germans should have never been there in the first place its not their turf.
>>535149880>unless you are an inbred royalwe had the same ruler. Well, western ukraine but I still hold sympathy for the east too>Thats how Ukraine came to beI do not care about the countries name or creation but the people. And the ukie people are suffering cause of soviets.
>>535150093They are "LittleRussians" you idiot. You don't understand why nation states at war would want to create a buffer zone and call it that. Ukraine is nothing more then an artificial construct and because of that it's people suffer. They are not a state per say but a territory known as a "Sanitary Cordon". There was no ukrainian governmental institutions prior to the 1990s. As such they were never any attempts at pretending those things existed hence the Africa levels of poverty and corruption. They know it themselves.
>>535150398>Ukraine is nothing more then an artificial constructdont care. poor people>more about the state itself and nothing about the peoplestill dont care
>>535150532The people would not suffer had there been no Ukraine. Thats why I fully support Russia.
>>535145907USSR:>you will do what I say or I murderfuk youIII Reich:>no, you vill do vhat I say or I exterminate youUK:>I want you both deadFrance:>Get the fuck out of my porch and pay the reparationsUS:>Howdy, wanna have some lend lease?It's a political fantasy, because the whole situation was boiling up to a violent end. It's like debating how Europe would look like if the "empires" in Central Europe didn't collapse (they would eventually collapse, the only question was when)
>>535145907Pathetic attempt to meme-magic a left-right alliance into being. We hate you freaks and want you dead.
>>535150953Im sorry to tell you this but Poland acted utterly stupid beyond belief hence why they were occupied. They should not have decided to antagonize both Russia and Germany at the same time and relied on foreign powers like the UK and France to save them once more. This is not 1812 anymore and Napoleon is not going to ride up to Warsaw and save your ass. Why didn't they join the anti communist pact with Germany is beyond my understanding.
>>535151121There's a way to live and let live
>>535149201tl;dwSweden media praised Hitler and his extinction plans and the "ubermench" and we were collecting Jews in our own concentration camps.Not to gas afaik but to collect for Germany that then gassed them.We caught the fleeing Norwegian king, searching refugee and we also have free passage for German forces to traverse to Finland, using our train rails etc.We were anything but neutral and OPs image should display Sweden as a piece of Germany.All explained in the video better then I could ever type it
>>535151243>Why didn't they join the anti communist pact with Germany is beyond my understanding.No such offer.And Poland had a non- aggression pact with BOTH the Third Reich and USSR. Guess how much was it worth in the end.
>>535151537I don't think that's how history went down. There was the problem of the Danzig corridor sure but Germany did not want Poland to be destroyed before the war began they simply wanted back parts of their territories that were lost to them after ww1. Hitler even visited Józef Piłsudskis funeral service to pay his respect to the man who helped forged a peace treaty but the leaders who came in afterward did everything they would to make sure that peace would fail.
>>535147639People like to forget exactly why the russkies were over run so fucking badly>>535147957Didnt you guys run your own death camps with mining silica or whatever to make glass?
>>535151760>I don't thinkFigures. Eat less corn syrup.>There was the problem of the Danzig corridor>they simply wanted back parts of their territories that were lost to them after ww1>Germany did not want Poland to be destroyed All German politicians were against the Versailles Treaty. All German "border corrections" ended with a land grab. Their "corridor" meant annexation of the entire coast and the free city of Danzig / Gdańsk and turning Poland into a landlocked country, then asking for other regions. You can't live in peace when there's a nigger in the neighborhood. We had two.>Hitler even visited Józef Piłsudskis funeral service to pay his respect to the manHe only attended the memorial service with a mockup of the coffin in Berlin for a propaganda photo session. It works until this day I see.
>>535145907>Europe between the Cold War 1953What the fuck does that even mean?Is this map AI-generated?
>>535145907Us would have been an even bigger shithole than it is today and sooner. Chinkia would have been another subhuman shithole and germoidlandia woudl have been some cyberpunk shit dystopia complete with national peasants costumes and roman togas
>>535147394They stationed troops in both north Africa and Italy too. Yugoslavia too, in fact Yugoslavia was the area which caused the most casualties by partisan activity for Germany.
>>535152619The reason Warsaw ended up razed was because they didn't accept Germanys final offer before the war began. Im truly sorry what happened to Poland. No nation suffered worse then her at the hands of enemies but you guys were up against two titans and decided to go ahead and fight i would have just made peace even if it meant losing territory. Besides you lost Lwow and Vilinus after the war so Poland ended up being smaller despite being on the winning side.
>>535153463>winning side.It's hard to argue one is on the winning side when the state of things when the war ends is ones nation is occupied by a foreign army (Red Army) and the state behind that army decides what happens with your territory and your government.
>>535145907The Soviet Union would not have tried to expand itself. Communism was a totalitarian global ideology unlike national socialism.War was inevitable.
>>535145907What if water never got wet?
>>535153463>Germany dindu nuffin and it's Poland faultIt's getting tiresome. Post your guns "John"
>>535145907If the USSR was never invaded by Germany, Germany likely would've tried to invade the UK. In this alternate reality, D-Day would've been a German amphibious invasion of the UK lol.
>>535145907looks better than the 9874561 chimpout states we have right now
>>535152619Poland is naturally a landlocked country. The parts of Germany Poland was handed by the enemies of Germany are the only reason Poland wasn’t landlocked. Just because Germany taking back its rightful shit means you go from being nigger rich thieves back to being poorfag losers doesn’t mean Germany was wrong to take back the plunder you looted. It’s not like you accomplished anything worthwhile with coastal ports, all you were able to do was shit out larger numbers of criminals.
>>535145907First of all, the UK would have to be conquered. After that there would be another European Union, and a NATO equivalent.Pretty much the same just without the sexual revolution and browns. I bet they would have a good space program.
>>535145907> 1940Iran was two weeks away from getting nuclear weapons, the soviet union had to be invaded
