>No new wars. I am not going to start a war with China to defend Taiwan. They can defend themselves. I am not sending American soldiers 9,500 miles across the globe to die for Taiwan against ChinaWhat the FUCK did he mean by this???
You lost, taiwanny
>>535148992Like Taiwan chads give a shit they have it rigged to blow to Valhalla the second a China man even looks that way
But he seems to be alright sending them 14,000 miles?Why are we like this? Can we just bring back the Monroe doctrine and fuck off from this shit
>>535148992>I am not sending American soldiers 9,500 miles across the globe to die for Taiwan against ChinaI'll send them to Iran instead
>>535149191The cognitive dissonance is part of the pointHumiliation ritual, as they say
He means to say that the American Empire is losing its grip and can no longer assure the safety of its client states. This is being reframed as America not letting itself get taken advantage of anymore in order to spin it as a victory. In truth, the hegemony is falling apart and the world is going to have to learn to live with that.
>>535148992So Trump admits the USA cannot project power anymore.
>>535149242The Iran war is something of a nothingburger because it’s a never ending stalemate in the strait now
>>535148992>"I AM NOT SENDING USA 9,500 MILES ACROSS THE WORLDhow far is iran/israel again?
>Vital production hub that produces literally irreplaceable high technologyI sleep>Mountain fortress in the shape of a country that Jews don’t like?Bomb it!Every day miggers become a lower form of life than previously believed possible.
>>535148992Does it really matter? I thought the rhetorical use of Taiwan is more important than any actual victory over it. Previously you could say that TSMC is a strategic reason to invade, but realistically China's own semiconductor industry has come on leaps and bounds in the past decade. So, they don't really win anything by invading.Maybe I've just misread the situation.
>>535148992What did this buy Trump? This comment. As per usual burning through 80 years of credibility ASAP, but what can Chija even give him now basides maybe not making a show of running his Iran blockade.
>>535148992>Canadian twitter screenshot poster is legit retardedThis has been the official US stance on the matter for decades.
If China takes Taiwan there will be no reason for us to buy chips and electronics from them anymore. When I'm buying a cheap flash drive at the store, if it doesn't say 'Made in Taiwan' then I won't buy it. Taking Taiwan's independence away would only destroy the thing that made them special.
>>535148992Jesus tapdancing Christ...
>>535148992Does he know that taiwan is closer to the US geographically than Israel?
>>535149191Israel is closer than Taiwan, that's our limit, trannyJudeo-Christianity is the only thing that should matter to us
>>535148992But gotta send us to fight sandniggers for jewish blood sacrifice and kalergi plan, right?
>>535149773>Chija
>>535149902>flat earther
>>535148992he means there's no jews in taiwan and it's an opportunity to invest trillions of dollars into jewish wafer fab kickstarters. It'll be great, they'll take the money and then rugpull just like the Trump Phone.
>>535148992Because Israel isn’t blackmailing him this time.
>We NEED to devote as much of our water and energy resources to AIslop factories and give whatever jobs they don't wipe out to the population of Delhi to stop China!>Fighting them? Nah I'm good.
>literally gives China everything they wantlmfao
>>535149902>What is the Pacific ocean
>>535149959that and China would wreck your shit
>>535148992TAIWAN MUST BE RIBELATEDPREASE SAVE TLANNIES FROM CCP!!!
so i guess that's it. miggerism has officially fucked up everything that america was about. and in the end nobody could have predicted the amount of bootlicking for xi is happening now kek
asml status?bottomry bond scandal status?
>>535150395if you go too far west you'll fall off
Holy fuck, it's actually over. China wonned and our christian blood will be used to summon Ba'El EpshemWe've reach biblical levels of over.>>535150371>>535150378FUCKING KEK
>>535149902brownoid moment
>>535149902
>>535149802Oy Vey, what ever will they do if Neckbeard McGlowie won’t buy his semiconductor chips from China to store his 6 million gigabytes of hentai and frog memes in?
>>535148992This is basically a sign for Japan to start being more aggressive against China. Losing Taiwan to China is a threat to them, and to Philippines.
>>535150761>Japan Negative birthrate country filled with brown shitskins >philipines Poor brothel
>>535148992lol, but for jews he will make usa crawl to the end of the world
>>535149330ThisAmerica blew half its arsenal in Iran accomplishing literally nothing, and will take nearly a decade to restock, assuminf past levels of production (given the state of the U.S Economy, that is unlikely).America physically cannot fight China or Russia anymore. It will lose. America is incredibly fucking lucky Russia is stuck in Ukraine forever, otherwise Alaska would probably be seized before 2030.
Trump really has been the best friend of China, even if his retarded ass doesn't quite know that yet.
>>535148992>starts war with Iran to kiss Israel's ass>won't enter a war against China
>>535148992He already fucked it blowing US's missile stockpiles on Iran, Xi let him know he knew and would be moving on Taiwan soon. This is just pre-emptive face saving because the US no longer has the munitions to influence the conflict.
>>535150761A threat to what? Are they gonna find some 10,000 year old scroll somewhere that says all of Japan was part of China?
>>535148992That will be the democrats next war
>>5351495436,200 miles
>>535148992It's only 6,000 miles from west coast to taiwan
>>535149117fpbp
>>535151054Three Gorges Dam, Rods of God pointed to Beijing, Zeus laser deployed from a flying saucer.
art of the deal 101: get rid of any strategic ambiguity.
>>535150797This japan isn't in a position where they can really afford to be aggressive against anybody they have domestic issues which overshadow any possible/conceivable outside "threat"
>>535151497All easily defeated by the Ssu-Ling
>>535148992>completely cucks on taiwan>gets nothing in returnchina won
China doesnt even have to invade, they'll just be a better shepherd than usa and Taiwan will legislate their submission
>>535151547So? I'd rather he just get it over with peacefully now so there's not a constant looming threat of zog trying to kill off millions of white men over this.
>>535148992>What the FUCK did he mean by this???Means he learned lessons from Iran
>>535148992Lolol a gigantic pussy who has bent the knee to china. Maga are faggots
>>535151834then why doesn't he fuck off from iran, get that over with too? or is dying for israel actually based?
>>535149387I mean…what gave it away? Mother fucking ragheads armed with $20 were able to shut down the fucking strait of Hormuz. It’s literally over. Dollar is fucking done. My advice to everyone is go heavy on the stock market because we literally have toilet paper for a currency.
KWAB
>>535151834>the factory of the entire planet for nearly every country>white men in mommas basement most impacted
>>535149131They're not going to blow everything up to appease people 9500 miles away either lmfaoTheyre next door to China look like them speak like them and they will surrender to them to survive if they have to. This is an admission we will not protect interests abroad and our leaders and people have no interest in defending colonies. It's an admission we can't and won't bother.
>>535148992>I am not sending American soldiers 9,500 miles across the globe to die for Taiwan against China8,500km to fight Iran TOTALLY FINE though!Also Taiwan is only 6,600km from Alaska, its 9,500km if you measure from Washington state.
>>535148992Yet this faggot started a war in the middle east
>>535148992he meant that apart from sucking israeli dicks and putin's dick now he also sucks CCP dickshis art of the deal is closer to porno than art
>>535149522>stalemate
>>535148992Fucking up China would be the big dick move and Japan would love it
>>535149902Certified migger moment
>>535152069Ground troops vs air superiority. Remind me how many pilots were killed by enemy action.
>>535148992TAIWAN SISTERS?
>>535152130Yes a stalemateThe refusal to let anything through is Iran’s only real trump card against the US and the US doesn’t have much of a way to force them to open it so you should assume it will never open and never become a toll booth, it is over
>>535148992kek china is going to take taiwan and it will bring both our countries to ruin to fight that war so we will let them have it
>>535152231Technically they could just wait for a new president
>>535152259China knows if it goes from developing nation to belligerent empire their min maxed lawn chair empire will collapse
>>535149522>stalemateIran imposes tolls and has an effective blockade against enemies. America does not impose tolls, can't sustain the blockade, and is ineffective at blockading adversaries. Also the US lost all infrastructure and bases in the region and is unable to operate in the gulf. Even securing participation from the UAE required giving them the authority to print unlimited USD.
>>535149902Kek
>>535149750>So, they don't really win anything by invading.There has never been a reason for China to militarily annex Taiwan. The only realistic scenario in which a military solution becomes preferable is one in which the US provides first strike capability in Taiwan, as when the US started the missile crisis against Russia.
>>535150761The Japanese median age is 50 at the moment. They also haven't been a military force for decades now. Where are they going to get all the trained personnel required to counter the PLA?
>>535152194Yeah anon but ground troops win wars, you cant claim that the Iran war is in any way "won". All you lot done was bomb them a bit then fuck off when Trump got bored, and left the political situation in a worse state than when you started. You'd literally have been better off doing fucking nothing.
Taiwan knows US has never been on their side, ever since Kissinger went to China to negotiate in the last century. This is why Taiwan tried to become indispensable by getting in specialized sectors like building microprocessors.
>>535152506Maybe China will be able to afford enough guns this time
>>535149191ukraine is on the other side of the world, it's none of your businessisrael however..
>>535149131Th majority of Taiwan said they would surrender to China if they were invaded. Their long standing stance of defiance towards the CCP has been propped up by America. It’s inevitable they will fold like Hong Kong and be reunified with China. I don’t really even disagree with Trump on this but he and other republicans pretended for so long it was a red line and they were the party that was tough on China. In reality Trump is a suck up to any world leader with great power.
>>535153064Maybe we should militarize the island
>>535148992Hasn't it been made clear to you retards at this point that the only country Trump cares about is Israel?
>>535148992Do the Taiwanese not wear small enough hats for leech landlord Trump?
>>535152259China doesn't need to "take" what's theirs, dipshit.
>>535148992>Look China, I am not going to fight a war against you right now, I am trying to finish off Iran first, otherwise I think it would be too much.
>>535148992>implying Taiwan is going to commit suicide so niggers in the US can film themselves beating the shit out of you with the latest iphone
>Do nothing>WinNot that it actually matters. The west will develop their own chip foundries. China gains a few million taiwanese, barely a rounding error in their demographics. America loses an unsinkable carrier they would never have used anyway, china gains an unsinkable carrier they will never use.
>>535153282if its theirs dipshit why would they need a military intervention to seize control?
>>535151975We'd be the only one's vanned and sent in shipping containers over there as meat shields so in a way yes
>>535148992ART OF THE DEAL>stay out of Iran and you can get Taiwan ART OF THE DEAL BABY
>>535153492Please show us this military intervention, not the one in your dreams, schizo.
>>535148992CHINA WONTOTAL AMERICAN HUMILIATION KNEEL BEFORE THE MIDDLE KINGDOM
>>535148992He only cares about making ISRAEL GREAT AGAIN
>>535153064>Th majority of Taiwan said they would surrender to China if they were invaded.it's not the same China with plans to mass murder all dissenters. China can't even justify a military invasion for the deaths that would cause, let alone actually invade and impose old Maoist behavior on a clearly valuable population.what the fuck is winnie going to do?nothing.
>>535149547>irreplaceable high technologyTsmc produces more high end chips in the US now. That little island isn't needed
China will now have free hand to take over the rest of Asia. Taiwan, Worst Korea and Japan being on the menu means the West better start spinning up those chip and RAM foundries fast, like yesterday.
>trump visits china>xi jinping sits him down in a private theatre>puts on some heinous blackmailso um... we wont defend taiwan guys
>>535153609does china control taiwan yet?no they do not.
REPUBLIC OF CHINA IS ALREADY RIGHTFUL AMERICAN CLAY
>>535149522>stalemateNot this shit again. You're losing, dawg
>>535148992>What the FUCK did he mean by this???Taiwan isn't jewish enough
>>535148992China told him to STFU when Taiwan will return back under the rule of Greater China
>>535148992>This is not a defeat nor are we abandoning our asian allies...This was foretold in the ancient data-links, we must dissent...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQeQWWKKvq4
>>535148992americattle only die for israel sorry
>>535148992>completely irrelevant bullshit with no urgency or strategic impetus WE HAVE TO KILL IRAN AND END THEIR CIVILIZATION >lynchpin of modern logistics, finance, and culture is threatened by the country you previously singled out as a threatNO NEW WARSjews did a number on this wrinkly fuck, huh?
>>535151246The endgame pic related.>>535153808Yes, all the chopsticks countries will be assimilated (plus a few nickel mines)
Sorry Taiwan we have other countries to protect.
CCP Glory.
>>535150761>Philippinessorry but we're having our own little civil war right now but we'll let you know if we're siding with US or China in 2028
>>535154298>The endgame pic related.Fuck chinks, stupid cockroaches
>>535148992Of course he isn't going to defend Taiwan. Israel isnt in Taiwan
>>535148992It means that the mission is completed. Discard Taiwan
>>535149522Strait status?
>>535149750Disappointing post for a Brit. Taiwan is the key for China to become project power on the seas. Being a naval power is the key to dominate the world.
>>535153790Straight up not true. TSMC has explicitly withheld their flagship tech to guarantee Taiwan remains a strategic asset. It's the one thing that guarantees burgers will defend Taiwan no matter what trump says
>>535149191>But he seems to be alright sending them 14,000 miles?Yes, for Israel. Not Taiwan.
>>535150497all trump voters will die in camps
>>535149902>>535149902>>535149902
>>535154298Based, what would be the downside? At least they would bring civilization to your shithole
>>535148992He sold Taiwan to China lol
>>535150180The USA doesnt need Taiwan chipz if nobody gets a TrumpGold phone.>sucked in again
>>535149902Lmao
realistically you'd only send them about 100 miles
>>535155623no he sold china to taiwan ching chong
>>535149522>attack someone >no objective was accomplished >now the objective is to return things to how they were pre-war
>>535148992>I am notThat is not what was said was it
>>535150565Apparently that anon thinks so.
>>535148992Fake quote, right?
>>535149117kek
>>535148992But he'll travel 9,500 miles to fight a war for Israel against Iran.
>>535148992>Screw all those treaties n sheeit!Jews have no use for Taiwan, therefore Taiwan is getting thrown under the bus by the antichrist.Trump is the greatest of nigger presidents.
>>535148992He needs to resign.
>>535148992He would if Bibi told him to.
>>535155870Probably99% of the shit that posted here is fake and nobody questions it until it gets to 300 replies
>>535153790Lol lmao, no bitchThe texan chipmakers can't produce shit either at the rate required or of a high quality enough yield to make next gen shipsYou burgers are literally too retarded to make chips that are not made from potatoes
>>535149802Good luck returning to the 80s, nigger.Actually you may actually enjoy that tho
>>535148992He measures distances from Israel
>>535149117>>stop pretending being from singapur, rabbi. Every single time its your Office under the sg flag. Before it was nepal, then Poland (lol), then india, russia or switzerland. And, of course, your alltime running show: the BG "nigger".
>>535150761If USA doesn't have a chance, Japan doesn't. Their soldiers aren't even interested in fighting they join up to play some game where a guy climbs a pole and needs knocked down
>>535155723assuming they make it that far
>>535148992
>>535148992America gives up it’s empire for ~10 more years of israel… LOL
>>535148992He would if the jews told him toSimple as
>>535155610Everyone would be speaking the ugliest sounding language on the planet.And no, they won't bring civilization. Notice they ignore the real shitholes and just grab the parts that have natural resources. Look at Africa, they built a few bridges and railways but it's still Africa.
>>535149191>Can we just bring back the Monroe doctrine and fuck off from this shitThis. How about cleaning up the festering shithole south of the border that is Mexico. I only ask because as Canada devolves into it's own festering shithole north of the border I would prefer to live in the satellite shithole with better weather.
>>535155734bing bong ling long
>>535148992Imagine trusting Am*ricans as your allies.
>>535148992>ok so we get iran>u get taiwan>and u get ukraine>europe gets more shitskins>deal?geopolitics is so funny actually
>>535149815>forcedAhh gee sorry guys we got tricked into it by Israel, we'll for sure write them a strongly worded letter about this!!!!Anyway enjoy starving next year and paying $10 a gallon for gasI'll be enjoying one of my many vacation homes that I bought with Israeli bribe money and spending literally 0% of my time worrying about how I'm going to pay my bills cause I'm a millionaire lolllllNo hard feelings guys!
>>535156621shut the fuck up sexpat boomer, go fuck your whore to sleepit's 4:30am why are you still awake you old fuck?
>>535149902kek
>>535148992Nafo sisters, how we feeling right about now?
>>535149902/pol/ is depressingly easy to baitI swear the average IQ here was triple digit in 2015, now look at all these retards replying to you
>>535156621Niggers are funny, they are part of the local fauna much like crocodiles, lions and elephants. Based Chinamen give them peanuts and make them work very hard.
>>535148992Its literally over. Americans will give everything for Israel, even if it means China becomes the biggest world power
taiwan needs to convert to judaism and all wear those small hats
>>535156621Hate to break it to you Miguel, the Whites also did that and it is still Africa, the owner changing from honkey to chink won't stop niggers from being incapable of running anything other then beetle pies and mudhuts
>>535156752>ok so we share Poland>you get ukraine>I get chzekia>deal?
>>535149902This is bait I can see with envision with certainty how you were giggling while drawing on the map you just downloaded from google
>>535156878already is
He said he wouldn't support Ukraine, he's a liar.
>right again
>>535148992He'll do it to defend a nation full of pedophiles and thieves but not to defend the only nation on the planet that makes the semiconductors necessary to power the modern age. I hope Xi dunks him into a pot of boiling acid.
>>535148992WTF not, at least from USA to Taiwan is a straight shot across the ocean?Plus, unlike Israel and Iran, there is shit that matters to 'Mericans at stake.We don't even get any food from Is/Ir, since the Kikes don't let USA get Iranian nuts (but the IDF does lol). We get onions sauce from Chinks.
>>535148992It means Trump gave China his blessing to take Taiwan.
>>535157150>hubris
>>535148992it means the US army serves israel, and israel alone
>>535148992Nothingburger. The US couldn't defend Taiwan from China even if it wanted to, everybody knows it, and Trump was just stating the obvious.
>>535156853NATOfags care more about Russia. China does not have a long and recent history of invading them like Russia does. They're just hoping China won't be as belligerent because they don't really have an answer right now if they are.
>>535149902I understand (or hope?) this is a joke but the reality is that there are retards here, right now, that think this is how it is. This is the way they see it.
>Russia get Ukraine, China get Taiwan, USA get Cuba and maybe Venezuelai'm ok with this
>>535148992>What the FUCK did he mean by this???He means concessions had to be made when he met with Xi.
>>535148992kek, how have the /k/ikes been faring recently?
>>535148992But for pisreal, every American has to suffer.
>>535149902You niggers found communism in Korea and Vietnam 80 years ago, but now its suddely too far?
>>535152194>Okay so the US may have lost 39 aircraft and every dollar of infrastructure it built for four decades in a single month>And freedom of navigation in the Persian Gulf>And access to 20% of the world's oil>But if you think about it, the US didn't lose any pilots, so it has air superiority>>535152231>The refusal to let anything through is Iran's only trump cardIran's trump card is that they destroyed every American base and asset in the region, flipped the petro-dollar to the petro-yuan, enforce a toll on the hormuz, and deny western aggressors access to oil. They straight isn't closed to everyone. There's plenty of traffic going through to BRICS. That's not a stalemate, retard. The US lost and is now ticking down to a crisis.
>>535153184>Maybe we should militarize the islandWhy?
>>535158117Is there anything Trump didnt destroy for the USA? Soft power, hard power, economy, integrity, allies, all gone to shit.
>>535153492>why would they need a military intervention to seize control?They don't>>535158278>Is there anything Trump didnt destroy for the USA?Israel
>>535152421That island is a national humiliation to china the fact that the party of chang kai shek still sits on that strategic Chinese island is enough of a reason to annex them with the military.....imagine if there was a island of the American Confederacy still putting along off the coast of florida and America never took it over because we're afraid of spilling a little blood. Then there's the whole stranglehold of world semiconductors while the jews in charge of the USA have been to greedy and stupid to actually produce in America figuring it's a critical survival of the nation type resource. China could absolutely fuck us because these kikes in America wouldn't even be able to start manufacturing semis for another 5-10yrs and probably longer because of profits reasons they would just ship production overseas again and never even bother making semis in America.That is 5-10yrs where china could go to war with us and make us revert to basically >>535152506WW2 weaponry while they have super happy fast missiles and we used up all of ours in the first year.
>>535152506didn't mean to add you in my other reply.
>>535158419Taiwan know-how on semis is irreplacable, if its getting bombed most likely the electronics all around the globe are going to shit forever, the massive factories are never being rebuilt ever.
>>535149547/thread if there was something worth fighting for it might be microchip production. Oh well, kike lap dog does as it's master orders, fight those middle eastern wars, goy.
>>535153184America can’t even follow their own defense orders let alone already sold to third parties, they even move thaad’s from south korea. With what could they possibly arm them.
>>535148992So it's time for china reunification ?
Trump just traded Taiwan in exchange for Israel getting Iran. BUY ANY ELECTRONICS THAT YOU NEED NOW WHILE IT IS STILL ON THE SHELVES!Laptop, RAM, hard drive, consoles or PC parts, T.V.s and monitors. Buy it now because the Taiwan transition will take some time once the invasion landing starts.
>>535148992>What the FUCK did he mean by this???American soldiers cannot be sent 9,500 miles across the globe to die for Taiwan because they are being sent 6,000 miles across the globe to die for Israel
>>535148992>TRUMP: "I AM NOT SENDING USA 9,500 MILES ACROSS THE WORLD TO DEFEND TAIWAN">sends them across the world to israel0/10
Taiwan cucks (especially the young ones, who slurped too much US media) will have a rough awakening.Lmao, Even better if Japs would somehow get involved. Gives CN the excuse to go full brutal mode on Japs, payback.
>>535158689When do empires die?Is it when whites join forces with muslims and jews to counter the Real de a Ocho?NO!Is it when whites create protestantism to attack the Olive Race and the Universitas Christiana project?NO!!Is it when whites send letters in the 1580s to steal America and genocide Americans?NO!!!Is it when whites conspire with 40 Hispanic traitors and the House of Braganza to fracture Hispanics?NO!!!!Is it when whites draft in the 1700s their plans to destroy Western Civilization for being non-white using genocide and enslavement of survivors?NO!!!!!Is it when whites begin genociding non-whites by splitting the Hispanic Monarchy into two sides and force Hispanics to kill each other?NO!!!!!!Is it when whites invade America and start genociding the millions of Queen Isabel's most-beloved Children while they steal their ancestral homeland?NO!!!!!!!Is it when whites write and execute the final plan to genocide non-whites, then torture the survivors with slavery until they all die?NO!!!!!!!!Is it when whites split the empire into +20 death camps and create +200 years of genocidal plunder and humiliating tortures?NO!!!!!!!!!Is it when whites lead their armies across America to murder and torture all non-white babies?NO!!!!!!!!!!Is it when whites create void centuries against that empire and black legends against its people, while they steal terms like "America" or "Western Civilization"?NO!!!!!!!!!!!Empires die when their beloved Children forget the Empire.
>>535159096isn't it just the graphic cards?
>>535158419>the fact that the party of chang kai shek still sits on that strategic Chinese island is enough of a reason to annex them with the militaryYou're clueless as usual for that flag. KMT is pro reunification these days. They haven't been in power for 3 cycles in a row.Current party is typical pro US liberal trannies complemented by their own color revolution color theme and tranny ministers and gay pride parade celebration.KMT is the boomer pro China party nowadays.
>>535158689So all china needs to do is don't bomb the semi manufacturing plants/grab documents pertaining to how to make them, then fly in air defenses and set up anti air bubble around the island while also winning the naval battle against the US.If they do that they win and they get the semis and they choose who and where they go completely defanging the US.America could simply win the game of world superpower by starting to make semis starting today in the US but our greedy kike politicians are just to stupid and devious to actually invest in making them here.
>>535148992Mitch and Pelosi must be pissed.
No SAVE ACT, No Taiwan.
>>535159096You do understand china will still just sell all that shit to us just like they do with all of our other made in China stuff( literally everything you use day to day) ....it's just gonna cost a little more now if this happens.....when we go to war with China or piss them off that's when they can just cut off the entirety of American consumer consumption electronics or otherwise of made in China things.China needs the US to buy things and the US needs china to make everything the American citizen consumes daily....nothing will change until war because it's a catastrophic loss for china and the US if this happens.
>>535158689>Taiwan know-how on semis is irreplacableTSMC sources its actual chip fabs from ASML, esp. the important EUV ones.Also- ASML's new generation of EUV fab has achieved precision and yield improvements that make the stock fabrication process on those machines already better than all the wizard hacks TSMC invented to try and eek more yield or smaller footprint out on the older fabs they mainly still run on.No knowledge would be lost.TSMC is 100% replaceable.Ironically, it would require the US to remain on good terms with Europe and the EU though.The one power bloc Trump consistently and continously shits on.They're hopefully going to be finding out, that that wasn't a good idea.
