How did a trading company conquer India?
Better weapons and playing them off each other
>>535175077capitalism ftw
A bunch of European powers and Japan invaded China and got some unequal treaties out of the Qing but they didn't conquer China. What made India different?
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Grip strength
the jamboy gambit
>Invest in parastatal activities>invest in paramilitary forces>???>profit
>>535175166China was unified
How difficult would it be to release ebola in the ganges
>>535175233Yeah and notoriously corrupt and their Empress Dowager was actively diverting funds for the military to build more summer palaces. Reformers were all executed or exiled.
>>535175077>mommy look i made another indian thread!!!!!!!
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>>535175077India wasn't a consolidated force and various smaller kingdoms and principalities kept unjustifiably invading the company's holdings as they viewed them as factors of the Mughals. And so they lost and the Mughals were fine with the British subjugating the defeated entity's territory and taking it, so long as they got paid a bit it wasn't their problem. It's how that huge Diamond on the crown got acquired, it belonged to the Sikhs out of Lahore (Pakistan) and they invaded the British for retarded reasons, got beaten back and sued for peace then promptly invaded again after a few years. So their kingdom was dismantled and the heir apparent went to grow up in England.
>>535175077They had the biggest single army in the world at the time, they were supported by an extremely intellectual English foreign policy, they were actual elites
>>535175077imagine that north african states lasted and fought much more than india ever did despite having only a tiny fraction of their population
>>535175233>China was unifiedwell no, they were in the midst of the worse civil war in human history (the Taiping rebellion) for the second one.
>>535175464At the very least it took the Castilians 7 centuries to recapture Iberia. Astounding that jeets are that martially inferior to lose to a bunch of fucking merchants.
>>535175296But they were unified as a system institutionally. This makes a huge difference.This is why India keeps trying to push this Bharat bullshit because it never was truly united as a political entity for most of history. And it could split very easily right now.
>>535175634the iberian muslims were using christians to fight their wars for them...christians taking 700 years to take it back is kind of funny since it seems like they werent even trying
>>535175417Nigger, by the time the colonials started gaining a foothold in India the muggles were already defeated by the Rajputs, Maratha and Sikh empires. The British took India from the Marathas, not the mudslimes. And they did it by jewing their way in gradually by signing treaties with rival kingdoms (D&C), bringing in modern weapons and amassing an army in the name of protecting their trading outposts.
>>535175650Also if you notice in this pic, you see a lot of Muslim titles and names of states.Now you see why Indians mald so much at Muslim. The izzat lost probably exceeds 100 Trillion.
>>535175650Nigger, you don't need to be united politically. India was a civilizational state, not a bullishit nation state. All those kingdoms were more like provinces or modern day states within India, rather than independent nations. And the identity of unified India has been around for centuries and millennia. Whether it's under the name of Bharat, Bharatvarsha, or Jambudwipa.
>>535175988>the muggles were already defeated by the Rajputs, Maratha and Sikh empires.Fuck off you lying loser. The Sikhs, Maratha and most the Rajputs all got defeated by the British all for invading company territory. It's exactly like I said faggot.
>>535176190Like I said, retard, by the mid 18th century the muggles were reduced to just Delhi and a few surrounding villages, and were a vassal state of the Marathas. The British took Delhi and India from the Marathas, using jewery and guns, not the muggles.
>>535175077The trading company was a government scheme to raise money, not a real company in the sense we think of them. They created the company, gave it a legal monopoly over Indian business, and then sold shares of it to whoever wanted them. It was basically a privatized part of the government.They did it a few other times, the South Sea Company in particular is fun to read about because they gave it a monopoly over an area of business that Britain wasn't actually involved in, so a ton of people bought shares of it and it became the biggest bubble of its time, popping after everyone realized that it had almost zero income and no prospects of ever getting any income.
>>535176388>by the mid 18th century the muggles were reduced to just Delhi and a few surrounding villages, and were a vassal state of the Marathas.The Maratha empire was destroyed after they invaded the British territories, for the third time, in Indian in 1818.They never subjugated the Mughals.You speak nothing but shit.
>>535176496>after they invaded the British territories, for the third time, in India in 1818.
>>535175077Mumbai was part of Catarina de Bragança's dowry, and it all started from there.
>>535175077India was never united so the trading company formed alliances with enemy states and turned everyone against each other which led to the conquest of the subcontinent as a whole. In contrast you can see non fully colonized nations like China which already was unified under the Qing Dynasty making it hard to pit everyone against each other.
>>535176496>They never subjugated the Mughals.Nevermind, wrong there, either way the Maratha started it having violated the peace with the British three times.
>>535175077Jeets are natural born slaves. They just desire a strong master who doesn't beat them too hard
>>535175988We wuz buttrat n shiet.
>>535176720Seems like this.
>>535176734It's also irrelevant as the Maratha broke the peace with the British for all three of the wars.
>>535176388What i would give to have been a company man 400 years ago, crushing jeet skulls under my boots. Yuck but also incredibly based. Eliminate the jeet race
My Indian coworker told me he doesn't feel like an Indian, even though he was born there. He said he has nothing in common with the darker and shorter Indians in the southern part of India. I told him that it is the fault of the British, who united the entire sub-continent under one government and one language. Had they not taken over, India would have evolved into different countries, more in line with different ethnicities like the Kashmir in the north and the Mysores in the south. Even worse, the British then used the Indians to grow opium, which they then sold to the Chinese to get them doped up and tragically addicted.He said the British fucked up the world.Was I right to tell him this, or should I have gone on a tirade about the caste system?
Good question.Hi 4chan. I'm the great great great grandson of (one of) the former Judge Advocate General and Director of the East India Company. If I were to guess, we did it via a combination of being extremely handsome and intelligent whilst also having a flair for business and a strong work ethic. Don't come at me, jeets, but he was an instrumental figure in the development of industrialism in your country and many, many Indians grew wealthy via his teaching.
>>535176748He's beating up your fellow mudslimes for praying in the middle of the roads.
>>535176809You're a jeet, simply by the fact you know so much about street shitter history.
>>535175077Pretty sure a train or an elephant could conquer India
>>535175077Indians suck at war
>>535176856How can you tell a paki apart from your run of the mill street shitter when you guys look identical?
>>535176795>What i would give to have been a company man 400 years ago
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>>535176939The same way I can tell you negroid and spic mutts apart from Europeans.
>>535177012>>535177012Why you suck your old momma’s floppy tits though?
>>535176939Its probably a racial thing. I can't tell a Japanese from my own except from the way we dress or speak. They probably can't tell a muslim jeet from a shit eating jeet until one of them declines to eating shit and the other to circumcision.
>>535175166China is too large to control, too unpredictable and unified. India was seperated and decided by kingdom, caste, language, ethnicity, religion, etc. Way easier to subjugate them. >muh chinese civil warOk and? Once you unify them as a cooling they will all collectively hate you and work together against you. India doesn't have that mentality. Under izzat they all work for their own selfish benefit.
>>535177408>Ok and?It's just why it was easier to defeat them.
>>535177408Chinese civil war was a nothing burger. Warlord era in China is a natural state. From warring states to collapse of Han to Collapse of Tang to Collapse of Qing.
>>535177576And yet at the end of the day, someone will rise achieve the great goal of unifying China again. Its a continuous cycle.This didn't happen in India and if it splits up, it might not get back together again.
>>535177861Qin dynasty collapsed in 15 years of its establishment.
>>535175077They had good tactics. They would ally with those who were willing to cooperate and give them privileges in exchange for help and friendliness. They went to war when necessary, not all the time, because conquest was not always the best way to absorb an area. Many regions of India weren’t fully integrated as British throughout the duration of the Raj, instead they remained autonomous as princely states. Almost all of these princely states had to be forcibly absorbed by India and Pakistan upon partition because of their unwillingness to join and fear that the other side would take them first. Hyderabad had a Muslim ruler despite having a Hindu majority, he tried to join Pakistan, so India annexed his territory. Kashmir had a Hindu ruler who wanted to join India despite having a large Muslim population, hence why the region is split and disputed to this day. Junagadh had Muslim rulers but was annexed by India, and so on. Other than that, there were also princes who were of the religion of their respective side but wanted to remain independent to retain their power and status because they believed that a separate state would be viable. The British, beyond working with local rulers, also recruited locals in large numbers to serve as enforcement
>>535175077Oh, and I forgot to add, as your map shows, the British conquest of India was also incremental, hence why they were seen more as just another power for a long time, and weren’t universally viewed as a threat until they were already the most powerful and it was too late. It’s not as if they landed on the shores of India one day and declared total war on every ruler present on the subcontinent. In fact, when they first arrived, not only were they very polite and reserved, presenting themselves as only interested in trade, they actually treated the Indians as equals and intermarried with them. It was a very, very, very long game they played and their modus operandi changed over time.
>>535175077One of my distant relatives became rich in Calcutta operating independent of the Company. I'd like to think he had a jamboy or two; I carry him with me daily.
>>535178191>they actually treated the Indians as equals and intermarried with themIm going to need source on the supposed blacking of the Brits. I can't be sure youre being honest since you are after all, an American.
>>535175077Indians are a natural slave race and will do anything for the chance to stab someone in the back
>>535178627Not all brits just the ones living in India on company business who didn't bring women with them. Portuguese did the same thing.White women started arriving in the steamship age.It led to this whole mixed-race ethnic group.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Indian_people
>>535178787What the fuck. Way to waste their ancestor's genetics
>>535177900And then was promptly replaced by the Han who established an empire that lasted as long as the Roman Empire. Same with the Sui, they got like 40 years before being taken over by the Tang who eclipsed the Han.
>>535176140>It is twenty-seven thousand miles in extentGo play on the train tracks, turd-gobbler, and take your revisionist fantasies with you.
>>535175077If it hadn't been a trading company it would have been a shoe company or a bridge club or something else.
>>535178863Roman empire lasted for 1480 years.
>>535179064Byzantines were Greekoid larpers.
>>535177251Pakis are just muslim indians that didn't want to live with hindus, the fuck are you saying it's a race thing? Prior to 1947 the area was in india. You don't change race because you moved 5 miles north. They're all jeets.
>>535175152Funny how colonialism is described as bloody conquests, when in fact it was a model example of Jewishness that would make even the most cold-blooded merchants envious.
>>535176809Just show him this.
>>535179367>t. seething kraut
>>535179459Im talking about distinguishing through physical appearances, dumb cunt.
>>535175902The same goes with only having to go back to my great-grandfather still having Morlach and Serb slaves tending his land in Christian Austria-Hungary until 1918. Bosnian "Croats" and "Serbs" are the the biggest untouchable scum of the Balkans living under slavery from 1389 to 1918. Arguably worse than pajeets under the British Empire or Niggers and native Americans.
>>535178627It’s a known fact. When British traders arrived in India they intermarried with the locals, more specifically prominent business families. This wouldn’t have been at all unusual, because families would often marry to solidify business ties and increase the benefits of close cooperation while making the bond more permanent. Do you think Anglo-Indians just spawned in one day? They had to be born somehow. As the trading empire expanded and the British asserted more control, this practice obviously became less common, but it was instrumental in creating the foundation of the East India Company’s operations on the subcontinent.
>>535175077jamboys ultimately want to be covered in jam.
>>535180294Why not just kill the locals and replace them?
>>535181097Well, as I mentioned earlier, they didn’t want to roll up to India and openly declare war on all the various rulers, showing the entire subcontinent that there was an existential threat that would stop at nothing and thereby unite them and make India stronger than ever before.They came to India to make money off trade, not to wipe the population off the planet. Most of India doesn’t even have a desirable planet for Europeans. Even assuming that they were deranged psychopaths that wanted to exterminate the population of India, they would’ve quickly given up on that plan upon realizing that it wouldn’t be feasible in any way, and that there is far more benefit to be gained by trading on amicable terms until you’re powerful enough to consolidate the territory of the subcontinent and become the most dominant authority. Ask yourself this question: Singapore is shockingly powerful for its size. It is probably the most disproportionately powerful country on the planet when you consider how small it is. Given this, while it obviously couldn’t conquer Malaysia and Indonesia, it could easily build a navy and logistics network capable of supporting invasions and total conquest of Brunei, and then use that as a staging ground for further conquests of tiny Pacific Island countries like, say Fiji. However, you don’t see them doing that, even though it’s possible.
>>535181501desirable climate* Sorry idk why I wrote planet.
>>535175166Invasion of China occurred later. Had WW1 not happened, you probably would have seen China get partitioned.
EIC revenues in land ownership grew directly to how much opium they were selling.
Shitjeets
Have you ever seen poos fight?
Ctrl+F>>dutch0/0Does anyone actually discuss things here anymore? I'm probably off to sleep.
>>535175417>principalities kept unjustifiably invading the company's holdingsAnglos are just discount kikes, no wonder you adore them so much
>>535175988poo nigger DALIT blatantly lying. please go back to eating shit out of a cows ass retard poo nigger DALIT.
>>535175077jews
>>535175166China was on the same path. World wars saved them
>>535181598>>535186445Is this some form of jeet cope?
>>535175296Imagine how nasty that empress’ hairy chink snatch must have smelledAnd she was so snobbish to everyone, despite having that stinky yellow discharge from her short yellow body
The reason India was conquered by Britain lies in the absence of a powerful, unified dynasty.By the mid-18th century, the Mughal Empire had already been reduced to a mere regional power ruling only the areas around Delhi due to Hindu rebellions, effectively rendering it defunct.The core problem was that the Hindus failed to establish a strong, unified dynasty to succeed the Mughal Empire. Instead of consolidating power under a single emperor, they formed loose alliances and acted independently.Consequently, they were easily conquered one by one by an industrialized Britain.If the Hindus had been committed to building a unified nation, they would have boldly dismantled the decaying Mughal Empire, pooled their power together, and established a unified Hindu dynasty. Had they done so, no European power would have ever dared to conquer India.
>>535187629No its true. China was split into zones of influence between euro powers after the boxer rebellion. If tensions didn't rise between the powers afterwards that eventually led to WW1 most of china would have been outright annexed and turned into colonies.
>>535178787White Portuguese women arrived in India in the XV century.Not only to populate our holdings but also as offers to different rulers of nearby. Granted, 90% of them were either prostitutes or orphans, but they arrived in the XVI century.We were always always a tiny minority in India (5% maybe 10% of our small coastal territories) but we rapidly established there and I think it was the first European presence so far East. However we sent much more men than women and therefore an underclass of mutts became almost the majority in our holdings (like in Northern Brazil today) which allowed us to be really rooted on the place and unironically wanted by this mutt population.
>>535176809That's why Bangladesh and Pakistan were created, because YOU brown monsters wouldn't stop raping and killing each other.>>535176809
>>535187629I don't thnk China would have become a colony. And India became a colony (British India) by almost pure chance. Pure chance because it was not a normal process. The Brits got lucky into going to India, got lucky that other Euro powers decided to not focus on India and then got lucky that the Indians accepted British rule so easily. This was so because the concept of India did not really exist. Sure there was a land of pajeets where peopole were Hindu or Budhist or some shit... but India was not unified.India is also somewhat small, the size of Western Europe to the West of Slavoids and it has two huge coasts that render it somewhat accessible to sea powers. India was always a giant pussy where everybody went in to come inside.China was differnet. The South is rugged and hard to conquer. The North is extremely unified when one compares to India - and in all levels. China was taken by Barbarians but it always remained unified culturally, religiously and especially ethnically. The Barbarians ruled but the Chink insectoids were the Chink insectoids and had to work unified to survive.>muh war lord erasThat shit on the Northern core only happens in transition periods when the rulers of the North are not strong enough, may they be Chinks or barbarians. China would be very uncomfortable to colonise in comparison with India. The Chinks are intelligent enough and have a culture shared among themselves.At best Euros could create a China Company which was to rule China like a barbarian power, demanding tribute and then dividing it among Europeans. But soon China would be too rich and important and Euro rulers would probably neglect Europe to focus on extracting shit from China.Thailand and Ethiopia were never colonised either.
>>535175077Anybody can conquer fucking India.
>>535189619>zones of influence>equivalent to getting literally conquered by a bunch of opium peddlers Nah. Nobody says Germany got "colonized" by the French when they lost Lorraine. China lost a bunch of wars and then modernized very rapidly. India never tried to modernize though I cant expect tribal leaders to get together and decide to buy german arms and get german officers.
>>535175077Inferior izaat culture and bad servile geneticsTheir economy was much bigger than british and britcucks did not enter industrial age yet
because hindus are genetically inferior 70 IQ rapists.
