Why are republicans so obsessed with abortion? They could win massive by stop whining about what other people choose to do that don't affect them the slightest but refuse to. I don't like woman treating it like a morning after pill these days but I'm a firm believer in "No child shall be born unwanted". People comparing it to murder is hysterical when the same people screaming their gunrights are more important than children dying by it. This is not a gun debate. Just pointing out that they think a doctor "killing" someone is worse than a lunatic shooting up a school.
>>535181774they wish they were aborted. I wish so as well
>>535181774>This is not a gun debate.True, but you're the fucking hypocrite bringing up guns when they have absolutely nothing to do with abortion.
>threaten to murder people if abortion isn't allowed to exist>reframe it as the other side being obsessed and militantVery marxist and communist of you
>>535181774Firearm murders in the US per year: 15,000Abortions in the US per year: 1,000,000 of which 99% are medically unnecessary.It's pretty obvious why people would find abortion to be a big deal. Personally I'm in favor of abortions because of the demographics though, but countries with a secure white demographic should ban abortion entirely
>>535181774There is no real difference from the perspective of the soul whether a person dies as a zygote, a foetus, a newborn, a toddler, a child, a teenager, an adult or a senior citizen. Killing isn't less wrong if it happens to any of those stages in the human life cycle than against the others. The only reason foetuses aren't considered by some to be people is because they are soulless materialist pragmatists who can't imagine that a "clump of cells" or an unborn foetus who doesn't have any social relationships (i.e. no practical utility for other people) actually has any worth or significance in this universe. Abortion enjoyers are profoundly mentally disturbed and spiritually ill people.
>>535181774>Why are republicans so obsessed with abortion?they consider it murder, you moron
abortion is a good thing because most of the babies that get aborted are brown
>>535181774Anti-abortion shit is just leftists stealthing their way into the right by appealing to muh bible so they can demand total nigger birth. Everyone knows the Klan supported shitskins and poor aborting their kids for the betterment of society.
>>535181949>>535181774You reveal the depths of your mental depravity in the phrasing of your viewpoint:>No child shall be born unwantedAs if being wanted by your parents is what validates your existence and unwanted children don't deserve to be allowed to live. You're a fucking freak anon.
>>535181774It's about supporting brown birth rates.
>>535181774Its part of their religious conviction you moron. You cant say theyre "obsessed" with it when people like you are trying to subvert them. Subvert a CHRISTIAN socirty
>>535181774>don’t mind us while we murder our own childrenAnon, when evil rears its head you must act. Failure to do so is terminal. >all that evil needs to thrive is for good people to do nothing
>>535181774>They could win massive by stop whining about what other people choose to do that don't affect them the slightestNot really. If republicans lose their wedge issues then all they have to run on is their shitty economic policies which fucking suck.
>>535182024The irony. If you don’t want to have children don’t go through the act of reproducing. You lack honour, discipline and any form or notion of what is good.>if I were the devil…And you’re calling him the freak.
>>535182024I'm a freak for not wanting children to grow up in homes they are not wanted in and you know damn well a lot of parents blame their stupid mistakes on a child that was concived throu casual sex? You people are fucking retarded if i'm a freak.
Catholic leftist DESTROYS abortion using dialectical materialism.You can’t deny this:https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYXiH13OBVL/It is my assumption that the left will soon realize how inconsistent abortion is with leftist, especially Marxist, thought. Marxists have never held a unified stance on abortion and many Marxists have rightfully understood fetuses and embryos are full and equal people NOT according to theology but according to dialectical materialism. Engels even believed fetuses are people.Abortion has no reason to exist in a socialist society whereby women’s needs are accomplished through economic programs and moving from a nuclear family to the communal raising of children. Pro-life is objectively the correct Marxist stance. Abortion is state-sanctioned eugenics by the bourgeois state apparatus that hates children and procreation. The global elites are known to hold deeply Malthusian views and want the human population reduced.Plus most of the working-class is Christian and we will never win them over to socialism by being pro-abortion.
Without abortion USA would be majority black
>>535181847Abortion isn't a left-right thing.
>>535182130I don't believe you understand my comment. I also don't think people should be murdering their child as an oopsie fix after casual sex.>>535182142The right of a person to exist is not derived from the desires of the parent -- it's axiomatic. We have a right not to be murdered. The right of a child to a loving upbringing is written underneath the right of the child not to be murdered in a state of complete innocence.
>>535182092Sure but they can focus more on other social stuff. Trannies, homeless people, druggies. I would actually be happy if someone ran on open up the asylums because youre crazies are nuttier than squirl shit. Are a lot of stuff they could talk about but the christians are a big voting block for them. Don't know about other religious groups but my guess they on the same side as christians on that part. Maybe not the jews since they are wierd.
>>535181949For the record, souls aren't real. There is no proof that souls even exist. We shouldn't govern real life based on souls.
>>535182278>The right of a child to a loving upbringing is written underneath the right of the child not to be murdered in a state of complete innocence.And if you don't understand how that must be the case logically, you're not operating on the level of intellect that should be required of people who discuss whether or not it's right to kill other people.
>>535181774I really need this done on my ears. I have a twisted ear canal and it gets wax buildup
>>535182263Because the abortion industrial complex targets the weak and marginalized.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFKC3xySMw
>>535182337The fact that you don't know what a soul is has no bearing on whether or not the souls of people exist, and there is no point arguing about it because there is no coherent argument as to how it could be possible that souls do not exist.
>>535182278Sounds like sanctimonious horse shit in my eyes. Explain now how it affect you the slightest that a person living on the other country that you will never meet have an abortion?
>>535182571Other side*
>>535182571>explain how it effects youSee, you did it again. You think the right of a person not to be murdered depends on how it effects people other than themselves. That's completely unhinged ethically. It means if I think your life has no worth then it's ethically permissible for me to murder you. You uneducated niggers who think abortion is nice cannot think past your desire to allow fucked up animal behavior to persist.
>>535181774As easily solved forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
>>535182494Trust me, they don't "target them", niggers keep going back to the clinics and using the services as a form of birth control, no matter how much education and knowledge of alternatives you throw at them. Most forms of birth control require preparation, forward-thinking, and responsibility before sex, or in the case of plan b immediate precautions right after conception, and niggers will not do it. I've known of abortion clinic nurses who went into it with staunch women's rights mindsets and eventually turned into complete eugenicists after dealing with the absolute willful ignorance of niggers. I even knew of one who went in half with her clinic she was employed at, using her own money, to have all sorts of pamphlets and other informational literature produced for niggers, because she thought they just really didn't get it, and it was all a waste when many said they 'wasn't gonna fuck wit all dat shiet, when I can just come in here'; many were on a first name basis with the staff, by the way.
>>535182701So you can't explain it you sanctimonious prick.
>>535181774The fact of the matter is I fully support abortion, but I am absolutely against women's rights.It is quite the conundrum.
>>535182337In that case, that makes his argument even stronger, since someone is taking the absolute one life to live that a baby has, because they can't be bothered to stuff a cum catcher into their own slit or ensure 1-99 of the men they opened their legs for wrapped their dicks, at the very least.
>>535182701Abortion should be legal for niggers since they're not human
>>535181774I’m republican and I’ve had women get 7 abortions over the years. 2 of the women twice. 1 woman wasn’t even pregnant with my child. I told her I wouldn’t have sex with her unless she got rid of the fetus. She did and I ghosted her instead. Kek!
>>535181774its how they rally the christkike mouthbreathers, they dont have any moralfag position to stand on since theyre scammers and exploiters so they distract with abortion. republinigs are subhuman cattle, its really clear to anyone now
>>535181774Stop murdering people.I dont need any more reason to oppose murder than murder being wrong.
>>535182970Yeah. But define who is human? Niggers aren't human so they should be allowed to get abortions
>>535182829I actually did explain it but you didn't even notice because you're retarded, but secondly it doesn't even need to be explained because it's self evident. Every person has a right not to be murdered. The right of a child to have a happy life is necessarily derivative of the right of the child not to be murdered. Again, and I can't make this any clearer, if you don't understand how it's the case that the right not to be murdered is axiomatic and prior to all other rights, you're retarded. It's axiomatic that you're retarded.
>>535181774Self righteousness.
>>535182857If woman want to it's up to them. I think men should have the right to not spend child support on unwanted children and think woman have the right to terminate it if she wants to.
>>535183034You still have not explained how it affects you instead you went on some sanctimonious rambling about murder. How does people that you don't even know exists having an abortion affect you and no fucking horseshit about murder?
>>535181847indeed, as if they sucked Marx's cum straight out of Alinsky's filthy asshole>>535182239>>535182276>>535182494>I'll just lie and post walls of textyou will be deported to india, where you belong
>>535181833Its pretty wierd to see them dragging up dead and buried issues like this.Nobody in daily discourse is talking about guns or abortions.It tells me they are desperate. Liberalism is stuck in the past, just look at the environmental movement. They are still pushing for emissions targets that we have already blown past.They are chained to the grift but they have nothing else.They know they are out of touch and bleeding out as a movement.They spent years talking about how liberal the world would be once all the boomers died, but its only the boomers clinging to these outdated ideas.Its all projection.They are fucked and they know it and they're scared.I think this is why they have been getting more violent, its desperation.I've seen them recently throwing out old issues like this, desperately trying to ignite a new issue they can rally around, but the wells are all dry, they have nothing.
>>535183137Anon, ethics is not concerned only with immediate self interest. It is profoundly unwhite of you not to understand this or intuit at an innate level without even having to think about it
>>535182142Yes, wanting to kill children makes you a bad person.Calling you a freak is an understatement. Fortunately, your extremist position is a fringe minority only found in the darkest corners of the internet. Whenever your policies are on the ballot they are thrown out every time.This is also why you people love to abuse the courts so much to get your way, its the easier way to implement your extremism.
Because it's the same as infanticide to many people. Democrats would instantly have like the entire Midwest if they didn't make it a key issue, that would be easier
>>535182829I dont need to explain how the murder of a stranger affects me to oppose murder.You know this.Everyone on your side knows this.Its why you have to sink to the disgusting depth of denying the humanity of children to justify your barbarism.
>>535181949Anon, if you're using muh soul as an argument, you've already lost
>>535183005It is not my place to decide who deserves to live and who deserves to die.
>>535181774>Just pointing out that they think a doctor "killing" someone is worse than a lunatic shooting up a school.Because no one's marketing and manufacturing guns for the sole purpose of just shooting up schools? I can use a gun just to plink cans for shits and giggles, and never to take any life. How do people think these are even comparable as a gotcha against someone pro-life and pro-gun?
>>535183420The thing about metaphysical claims is that they are self-evident and background to everything else, so you can drop them and everything else stays exactly the same. If you are telling me >Killing is less wrong when committed against babiesI disagree with you
>>535183156Show me a single lie I've said on here.
>>535181774Why are Swedes so obsessed with American politics? I don't go to Swedish lutefisk appreciation forums and tell them that they should gas all their rapefugees and force their king to wear dignified hats.Anyway, what it all boils down to is that Democrats stole all the hot European topics like gay sex and importing infinite niggers, so the Republicans were left with the un-cool stuff like national defense and profitable business economies. The religious wackos fled the gay sex of the Democrats and so they joined up with the Republicans. As a result, some Republican politicians pander to the religious wackos to get their votes, particularly in areas with lots of religious wackos.Anyway, as has been pointed out many times on /pol/ by some antiabortion nigger, 42% of abortions are of niglets. It's also a known fact that 25% of abortions are by black women. That 17% discrepancy tells you that there are a LOT of coalburners who don't want to get stuck as single moms to niggers. This is why even on the Republican side there are a lot of people who say "I don't care about abortion as an issue, let the chicks kill off their niggers."It's also why the Democrats are so solidly pro-abortion -- they're the party of slavery and the KKK, and they want the niggers to kill themselves off, not that they'll admit that.
Because "when life precisely begins" is genuinely a gray area, and if you guess wrong you're committing murder
>>535183419So It does not affect you at all. Got it. Your personal beliefs are ignored. You can't explain it. All you have to say it does not but I don't agree with it but forcing others to comply based on moral grandstanding are just plain wierd>muh morals says you cant do that because it makes me feel better
>>535183611Considering that you know how racist 4chan is, I've always believed you were false-flagging as an anti-abortionist to make us pro-abortion so that more niglets get aborted. Didn't work on me because that's already why I'm in favor of abortion remaining legal, and preferably subsidized for black women and coalburners.
>>535181774>Muh war good>Muh killing goodThere’s no excuse not to legalize it any more
>>535182276It's only become left-right in so far as the left have been (as usual) exploited as useful idiots by savvy marketing, which has successfully framed it as a women's rights issue. The reality is that the abortion industry is just an incredibly lucrative racket for harvesting stem cells, and retards have been psyop'd into moral crusading for women so that they zealously fight for its continued existence.
Honestly, who the fuck gives a shit about abortion?
>>535185200Abortion is MURDER.
>>535184604Do you agree all embryos and fetuses are people equal to you and I?
>>535182142>I'm a freak for not wanting children to....Yeah, you want them dead to begin with.
>>535185432IDC I just want niggers to get aborted.
>>535182554>there is no coherent argument as to how it could be possible that souls do not existSure there is. You simply work forward from what is provable instead of backwards from religious texts kek. >>535182907Up until the brain has formed structures we recognize currently as those supporting consciousness (second to third trimester, IIRC) a fetus is "alive" in the way any other arbitrary clump of cells is alive. It's arguably LESS alive than e.g. the cows we slaughter for beef. Importantly, it's alive in the exact same way sperm cells and ova are alive.
>>535181774>They could win massive...they already did win bigly, coming right of abortion being criminalized in several states across the country lets not encourage republicans to drop one of the only moral high grounds they have
>>535184564how does a murder on the other side of the country affect (You)? if there has ever been any wicked thing that happened that did not involve you whatsoever, should that thing be permitted in all circumstances, because you were unaffected?
>>535186054Why?
>>535181774>People comparing it to murder is hystericalIf it’s not murder then women crying over having a miscarriage are being hysterical as well and should get over it according to your logic.
>>535182142Stop excusing whores, feminized shell of a man.
>>535186306Mourning a miscarriage is the ultimate proof mothers know the preborn people they carry are full and equal people.
>>535186341Exactly which is why if a woman who does weep over/for a miscarriage says they support abortion they are all but saying they but want the right to kill their baby.
>>535186627Yes.
>>535181774Niggers existing affects us all you stupid chink.
>>535181774>Everyone is divided on this one issue!No, actually. The group holding the race to the bottom is forcing it on us, just like they always have.
>>535181949TIL jumping spiders dream.Do with this information what you will.
>>535181774because "niggers can't stop getting pregnant and we can't afford to keep them all on welfare at this growth rate" is the key motivation here, and it's prolonging the flames rising high enough to precipitate real change that will solve the underlying issue.
>>535182571>Explain now how it affect you the slightestThat argument type is retarded as the fact that he is concerned about it means its affecting him, at least mentaly. It only makes sense in reverse, when somebody claim you should do/not do/support/oppose something and you dont care about it or it doesnt concern or affect you.
abortion is a retarded hill to die on anyways, minorities are much more likely than whites to get an abortion so it's actually a good thing because it keeps the brown percentage low
>>535181774How does some lunatic shooting up a school in America affect you in the slightest? Why are you so obsessed and hysterical and hypocritical about it?
>>535186306>>535186341>>535186627>>535188268I feel like this line of arguement doesn't hold too much water.This logic could also be applied to someone feeling grief over putting their pet down, but not feeling grief over killing a wild animal.
Most Republicans have small pp, women ignore them, therefore all they can think of is how to control women.
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