People say to just "go for it" but don't want to acknowledge that most of the time it isn't worth it. For instance once you ask a girl out and she rejects you, it'll forever be awkward between you two, which doesn't matter for clubs/bars but does for work/school/third spaces. Then most of the time even if you do go on a date with her, it'll end with a hug and a "HR text" about not feeling a spark or chemistry or some shit which is worse than them just saying they're not interested. Genuinely it's not worth it for 90% of men to try and "date". There are guys that women will fuck easily, but if you're not that guy for her, the jestermaxxing you have to do just for the opportunity to be a boyfriend is pointless, especially if you're over the age of 23.
This isnt politics you ugly loser kys
>>535198156sry wrong board
>>535198086>but does for work/school/third spacesDon't shit where you sleep, anon.Wrong places to try, even if you get a "yes" and later break up it's the same awkwardness.
>>535198086i am a master carpenter because i have fucked up more cuts and joints than you will ever make in your life. anyone who has never failed has never tried and anyone who is great at anything has failed at it many times.
>>535198433People say that, but then the only way you're left to effectively date is Instagram and dating apps which has its own issues. People will also tell you to "touch grass" but when you do that and get rejected then it becomes weird. Also this is a real political issue because this has to deal with family formation and the birth rate. The biggest issue with family formation is that in essence, dating is FUCKED.
>>535198086It can be black-pilling, no doubt. But you're in this shitpile of a society either way. In the end, would you rather be hurt by the truth or feel comforted by a lie?
Anyone who's attracted to women with visible musculature is a closeted homosexual.
>>535198533And im one of the highest paid jannies in all of camada because normies seethe about my work and dont want to work with me.After 15 years I just dont want to do carpentry anymore, dont ever be "better than".t. Frequently has people try and start shit with me on framing sites because I make them look bad.Still gonna fuck up cuts. Kek.
>>535198086So the third worlders now use pics of women in 90% of their posts, thinking it will get more participation in their retarded low IQ posts. Hilarious
>>535198086is this achievable natty?asking for a friend
>>535198730i have managed to make enough money that i am going to build my own off grid cabin this year. the best part is, i can do it myself.
>>535198086>it'll forever be awkward between you two,who cares? you're not under the impression that you can be 'friends' with women are you?
>>535198661Option C.Rage, rage against the dieing of light.
>>535198661A "HR text" is a lie though. It's a soft rejection but it's a rejection. >>535198787Achievable, yes. That said 99% of people that look like this used some type of PED>>535198889Yeah it's a myth. It's either a failed talking stage, they're using you, etc.
>>535198086feels worse at the moment, but it's definitely not worse long term
>>535198086Once you reach a certain point of maturity, you wont chase after women who dont want you, because you will pick up on what women are atteacted to you or not.
>>535198889Its already over anon.Women know who Leon Kennedy is, if you arent that level of Daddy its already over, dont bother trying.Im red9smashing my hair to look like him and changed my style to involve more fanny packs and knives.
>>535198086people want you to keep trying, regardless of the topic, because every time you try and fail, someone got to harvest your efforts for nothing in return.the only thing they care about is taking advantage of you, but for that to work out, you need to interact with them.
>>535198922ok good for you. there's nothing wrong with letting a woman know you're interested, and if she's not then ok. no need to act awkward or embarrassed etc, and you might even take the option to pursue her for a while and see if anything comes from it.
>>535198086Not to mention what comes after. So you get the girl.... Okay, now what? You won't be able to maintain the mysterious, brooding character they fantasize about once they gain nearly 24/7 access to you ie you move in together. You become boring, monotonous and routine oriented then she gets the ick and starts fishing for other men on social media. If you have kids with her, now you're under constant threat of blackmail. You marry her and you're, again, under constant threat of blackmail. We also live in a rapidly deteriorating society. Your future children will have to grow up in this shitskin infested wasteland full of kids raised by retards who can't read or do math. Go look at the teachers subplebbit and tell me you aren't terrified of what this nation will look like in 20-30 years.
>>535198957That's a good point. Sometimes though women can be super nice and you think they're interested when they act like that to everyone.>>535199011redfield > Kennedy>>535199049True, the economy runs on simping>>535199120True, may as well shoot your shot
>>535198086Trying and failing is worse than not trying, it's true. But trying and succeeding is far better than either.
>>535199156Yeah true, you can mitigate the last part by putting your kids in private school but that also has its issues>>535199227Lol good point
Getting women is like getting muscles. At first it makes you really sore, might even hurt really bad when you first start but after a while a workout doesn't make you feel anything and you just continue on without care. If a girl says she's not into you who gives a fuck, just talk to girls because you have fun fucking around with them not because you actually expect anything to come of it. Eventually one thing leads to another and you end up in a vagina Success in any field whether it's career, exercise or love is mentality first, everything else is down stream of that
>>535198705>t.low T faggot
>>535198086Maybe you should have mogmaxxed harder little zoomie
>>535199011>Im red9smashing my hair to look like him and changed my style to involve more fanny packs and knives.what have they done to master carpentars man you guys are going nuts. t. master carpenter easier to stop messing around with the normgroids sticks. they built too many houses. I can't imagine how richfags actually live with all those windows. they build these energy consuming shit boxes then go live in an apartment in a city. I can't wait for the revolution
>>535199303>putting your kids in private school100%. We are experiencing a complete bifurcation where the top 10-20% of people are the smartest and most educated to ever live, while the bottom 80-90% will be among the most retarded and ignorant to ever live. We used to have some semblance of equality between different classes of Whites in this nation. Now we are seeing low class Whites dragged down to full niggerdom by their nigger peers they're forced to interact with from a young age. I sincerely believe that shitskins destroy White kids from a very young age just due to proximity. I think they did a study that showed when you put White kids with shitskins in school, the shitskins scores increase while the White scores decrease, the opposite effect occurs when segregated. I want to torture to death every single kike piece of shit that thinks its White peoples job to sacrifice their fucking lives to caretake worthless fucking niggers. Boils my fucking blood
>>535199156>Okay, now what?see that's the beautiful partthe illusion of modern society is to chase some marker of success, but never ever be bothered to ask that simple follow up question. The growth of the journey itself was the reward with rewarded faith in the destination being a cherry on top.The problem with a hypernormalized internet-connected (and now AI-driven) society is that the question of how much effort a task requires and what reward it will reap are already answered.>This is price discovery.What we have come to learn is actually that an existing human life is very cheap, but new life has been made prohibitively expensive.>TLDR: A manufactured culling will soon be in order, if not already thrust upon us.
>>535199156This isn't true at all. Once you have sex with them the entire power dynamic changes and suddenly you'll find her being desperate to keep you instead of the other way around because women understand their value is directly tied to the number of men she's had sex with which is why they safeguard their vagina so hard most of the time (with frequent exceptions granted). If she loses you after sex and you leave, from her perspective she lowered her value for no reason
>>535198787Not for women.
>>535199811None of what you just vomited applies to american whores, anon. I've had girlfriends obsess over me to the point of threating to kill themselves if I left them only to leave me a year or 2 later. Women are fucking weird as shit. They cannot stand stability
>>535198607it doesn't really matter if it's weird because men and women can't be 'friends'every man who's friends with a woman wants to fuck her and women know (and rely on) that
>>535199913Actually nevermind, it totally is. I went back and I realised her muscles aren't that big, the shadows are just exaggerated, seemingly due to AI filters.She's actually a total hottie.
>>535199811Depends on age, if she's in her "hoe phase" she doesn't care, but when she's older this is absolutely true. It's also why women try to go back with their exes and use them as FWBs since it won't add to their "body count".>>535199699Yup, because as much as people talk about how dumb most students are, it's a LOT harder to get into a top school now than it was 10 years ago because the top is becoming "better">>535199930Depends on age as well. A woman will be super obsessed with their first boyfriend(s) but when she's 30, she likely can't pair bond with you
>>535198086EWWWWWWWWWW
>>535198086you're just a fucking loser OP. i got a hot girlfriend when i was 20 and i'm 30 now and we're getting married soon.stop posting off topic threads and kill yourself.
>>535198086>i will be a wizard in 2029
Lol you don't ask out a woman who's not interested. You have to learn to be able read the subtle signals, women are more cryptic. Or you can just have blind confidence like a negro, and use flattery and compliments and have no shame.You need to learn euphemisms ...kek.
>>535199561I just wish there were PEDs for women like there are for muscles. Some bluepilled normie will say "money", but I'm already making good money (over 100k) and that doesn't help that much. >>535199940True, women aren't as clueless or as retarded as they pretend to be. I remember once I asked a girl out to a bar on a Friday and she later said over text "I thought we were going as friends I didn't realize this was a date" but she knew but didn't want to make it weird.
>>535200067Oooh so you're an expert now, gonna tell us how it is, man shut the fuck up, you obviously don't know shit about life.
>>535198086>For instance once you ask a girl out and she rejects youyou never ask, you go do something and she follows along.. you're making it into a big deal, asking puts them on the spot.. if no girls ever follow you around then sorry but you need to be more social and should probably lose some weight, maybe alot of weight..
>>535198086It's not gonna be awkward, if you can take it with class, retard
>>535200444I don't know what I said that got this hostile response from you...I do agree with this point you made here >>535200283but most of us are too aspie to read social cues.
>>535198086100%well said.a lot of women complain that guys dont ask them out, but the risk of asking a girl out is very high in many cases.how can you cry foul when a guy doesnt ask you out when you dont even drop hints or flirt or show interest, or you play mind games.
>>535198086That something mentally.
>>535200283I wish someone would have told me this when I was in high school. I learned this lesson, and now cringe at some of the shit I pulled. BUT I'm not ashamed. Fortune favors the bold. Lessons were learned, and I'm better for it. But still ya, women let you know if they are interested. If they treat you like a normal person, formal, polite, they are not interested. If you make direct eye contact and smile and hold it a half second longer than typical, that's something they just don't do for ugly people they don't like. I'm sure someone will misread that, but it's just an example. Laughing at your jokes, speaking in a higher pitched voice, placing themselves near you. But if they are just a person who tolerates you, you're really not doing yourself a favor saying "the worst she can say is no!" That is false.
>>535200499This is legit good advice. I've lost a lot of weight and can see my top 4 abs now but yeah the "Oh I'm doing X come through" makes it more natural. >>535200688There's a reason why feminists are perfectly fine with leaving that "sexiest" double standard in place.
>>535198086Hot slab of fuckable meat. Would cum inside her.
>>535200741if *THEY make direct eye contact.
>>535200741Many of us just don't learn how to pick up on the signals or read too much into them.
>>535199204>True, may as well shoot your shothonest and up front is the way to go if you ask me. not pushy, not weird, just straight forward and business like.
>>535198086Defeatist like you don't need to be argued with because you will sabotage yourself out of the gene pool, either you change or you die, life is that simple and don't try to bait other into your bullshit.
>>535201002Bro, I could have fucked the prom queen if I wasnt a retard. I completely misunderstand her MULTIPLE attempts to get me. I completely understand. That's why I'm just spreading some wisdom. A warm long help direct look into your eyes, is a massive sign. There's a difference between that look, and just looking at you because you exist. The same way one would look at a cup or something.
>>535198086>but does for work/school/third spaces.Which is why you don't shit where you eat.LEARN THAT LESSON PAJEET!
>>535201168the next version of "Clavicular" is going to be a guy that breaks down how to "charsimamax" in a non-cringe, easy-to-understand way that actually works and isn't just basic "hurr say compliments and be funny" bullshit.
>>535198156fpbpBan everyone who makes threads about women. No one cares about them.
>>535198086>tattoo on the backruined, i'm out
>>535201168Another thing women might do is dress up special if she knows you're coming over. One time I went to a friends house and he literally yelled at his sister "Wow you never wore that before in the house!" He literally made me realize I could fuck his sister with that one comment. I had no idea she was doing something special for me. Another tip is, you don't need to ask them out on an official date. You could if they are into tradition or something. But you could also just mention fun things you do, and if she's into you she might ask to come with. When I did bjj a woman there was into me and basically forced me to learn stuff from her. Like she forced herself on me. There are obvious signs once you get a bit experience. Really the best thing you can do is Mew to fix up your fucked up face. Fast to be thin. Buy a pull up and dip bar to build a little upper body muscle. If you're fit, have good facial development, girls will be interested. Find a good hairstyle. Wear some fashionable clothes. Just be a put together man. Not a middle school awkward weirdo.
>>535198086Salsaaaa
>>535201449came to ask thisalso came
this guy has of
Good post, but still demoralization post
Nobody posting the name of the girl? For artistic purposes. I am currently learning anatomy and would like to study her anatomy for that singular purpose.
>strong brown woman>is a midget sized foid that just spams cardio
>>535198086Nahhhh, protein queefs
>>535198787>is this achievable natty?For men yes, for women no.All you have to do as a man is reduce your body fat.
then dont ask her out, thats cringemake conversation lead ur to ur hobbies but dont make it seem ur narcissisticdude i went fishin the other day and caugh a 24 inch red! it was sick whatever her response is, oh thats cool whatever, follow up withim going back tomarrow if u wanna tag along, maybe youll catch somethingfrom there yall can get to know each other you can tell if shes into you or not when yall hang outhang out, then date
>>535200400>Some bluepilled normie will say "money", but I'm already making good money (over 100k) and that doesn't help that much.You have to wear it and drive it and live in it anon.
>>535201634The older I get the more I'm not attracted to women who work out. They just get thick. Why is that something I want? I want a skinny, feminine body. I feel like women who work out also get uppity if you don't. And then sometimes are resentful when they realize you completely mog them with strength and muscle regardless because just being a man and doing basic exercise like pull ups and dips, or basic manual labor, will build a body far superior to her. Despite her doing 9000 different movements and 2 hours in the gym 7 days a week. Literally 10 minutes of exercise as a man, 2 times a week, will build a great body in comparison to a woman spending 1 1/2 hours in the gym 5-7 days a week. But regardless even if they get big, so what. It's not pleasant to the eye. I realized this when I went to Asia and women actually looked like women. Don't get me wrong I love white women. Asia just made me realize I'm not attracted to masculine women.
>>535201449>>535201407When do empires die?Is it when whites join forces with muslims and jews to counter the Real de a Ocho?NO!Is it when whites create protestantism to attack the Olive Race and the Universitas Christiana project?NO!!Is it when whites send letters in the 1580s to steal America and genocide Americans?NO!!!Is it when whites conspire with 40 Hispanic traitors and the House of Braganza to fracture Hispanics?NO!!!!Is it when whites draft in the 1700s their plans to destroy Western Civilization for being non-white using genocide and enslavement of survivors?NO!!!!!Is it when whites begin genociding non-whites by splitting the Hispanic Monarchy into two sides and force Hispanics to kill each other?NO!!!!!!Is it when whites invade America and start genociding the millions of Queen Isabel's most-beloved Children while they steal their ancestral homeland?NO!!!!!!!Is it when whites write and execute the final plan to genocide non-whites, then torture the survivors with slavery until they all die?NO!!!!!!!!Is it when whites split the empire into +20 death camps and create +200 years of genocidal plunder and humiliating tortures?NO!!!!!!!!!Is it when whites lead their armies across America to murder and torture all non-white babies?NO!!!!!!!!!!Is it when whites create void centuries against that empire and black legends against its people, while they steal terms like "America" or "Western Civilization"?NO!!!!!!!!!!!Empires die when their beloved Children forget the Empire.
>>535201375 (Hellenic)>>535201407 (Hispanic)>>535201449 (Latino)KEK
>>535201786>then dont ask her out, thats cringeI actually agree 100% with your advice, but why the FUCK do people still tell people to "ask her out" online? I even see some Redditors say shit like specify it as a date.>>535201948I guess. People will tell you to not show your money or to hide it but I feel like that's what you do when you're already married with kids.>>535201969Cardio bunnies are good because they're not fat nor are they muscular. >>535201437Lol that's true. I remember in school most of the time the women would insert themselves into the lives of the guys they actually liked.
>>535198086Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate.
>>535199204>Sometimes though women can be super nice and you think they're interested when they act like that to everyone. If she isn't eye fucking the shit out of you she's not interested.
>>535201948fuck that noiseI make good money and drive a beat up 16 year old daily driver... spending money on clothes and cars is nigger behaviora few good quality black polo shirts is all you need in your closet for most daily wear
>>535198086What a Jewish demoralizing post you got there, Chaim.
Ive never dated a woman before and am becoming a wizard later this year but:To my understanding, its actually women that make the first move. They make the first move by sending signals to you Smiling at you and so on. Thats the signal for you to approach.Well I've never gotten one of these signals so I have never approached a woman.
>>535202112Because there's no ROI. Women are only worth it to have casual sex with and that's only available for a small number of men, and desu even that isn't worth it a lot of times. >>535202169That's what everyone on X says, "mixed signals" is a no and if it isn't obvious she wants to fuck you then she doesn't.
>>535202385As a dumb kid I didn't realize the difference between someone being nice, and someone eye fucking me. Women started eye fucking me around my senior year. I was confused at first lol. Like what is this bitch staring at. I missed so many golden opportunities.
>>535202385It's possible to weasel your way in with some girls but generally you have to be a manipulative little faggot and sit in the friend zone until she's emotionally vulnerable after a breakup. If you're a normal guy you should feel sexual tension from her.
>>535198705You want 'em firm but not "cut".
>>535198086I bagree.
>>535202522Because no one teaches you. Maybe if you're lucky enough to have an older brother that's good with women but society tries to "hide" things about women so many guys just never learn if they're too autistic to pick it up.>>535202534That also takes a lot of time and, like you said, manipulation. It's also a lot lower ROI than just finding a woman that wants to fuck you.>>535202171Are you already in a relationship though? It's easy to say to not show off when you have little need to.
>>535202375Women are an algorithm. It's also important to know that personality exists and not all women want the same thing. So some women just might always hate you. BUT if you do certain things, it's just a mathematical certainty that women will want you. Be fit, be fashionable to some degree, find someone giving mens fashion tips for your age group and take their advice if you don't have taste. Figure out a good haircut. Mew. Fast. Be thin/fit. In a world of fat people that is basically enough. A little bit of muscle is ok, but living in the gym is counter productive. You should be getting educated or wealthy. Boxing would probably be more effective because it gives you confidence that you can operate in the world safely. Obviously guns and shit exist, but just knowing you can fuck people up and take a beating will give you a level of aura. But being a gym bro is basically a waste of time. Unless you take a bunch of steroids and really go balls deep into it. But unless you're rich I still feel like it's a waste of time.
>>535198607Dating and the terms boy/girlfriend were cooked up by builderbergers in the 60s . It was never meant to lead to stable family formation, quite the opposite, population control became us national security policy. One could say its structurally designed to atomise societeers to divide and conquor whilst pillaging nations with debt tribute
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>>535202579I don't even want this. Lets see what she looks like in 5 years. Will probably just look fat but also masculine, like a fat peasant farmer woman.
>>535198086The fuck you talking about? Im 43 and get more pussy than ever before. College girls give it out for just saying hello.
>>535200067>the top is becoming "better"I dunno. I showed my father the requirements for EE at his alma mater. He said they're a lot easier now than they were in his day. Certain weeder courses were no longer required.
>>535202740none of your businessalso, yesbecause beforehand I wasn't a confident less little pussy
>>535198086Faggot mindset
>>535200741This. I only ask out girls who show unmistakable interest in me and I make my invitation sound casual, offhand, almost indifferent.>I'm gonna grab some lunch at that new Chinese restaurant. You wanna go?
>>535198086>Fuck what they say, trying and failing is worse than not tryingI agree. The very act of trying is a cost. It costs time, effort, nerves, energy, money, etc. Even if you win after trying and failing time after time, is the victory worth it? Or is it Pyrrhic? Somebody else in comparison only "tries" and gets more than you can ever hope for. This makes it obvious that there are classes of men. You wouldn't try to become a professional basketball player if you're under 6' tall, or a professional fighter if you're of weak structure, so why try to become a ladies man against all odds?Good bread even if it's more fitting on /adv/ rather than here.>>535198607>Also this is a real political issue because this has to deal with family formation and the birth rate. The biggest issue with family formation is that in essence, dating is FUCKED.Yeah, but who cares? If your government or society in general isn't doing anything about it, then neither should you.
>>535202819What's the alternative then? No one wants to go back to arranged marriages at 16. >>535202944I always see people on here saying this but everything I hear and see people talking about lets me know that this isn't the norm and a lot of women hate age gaps. >>535202948But the actual classes might be harder. Also the acceptance rate for that alma mater is likely a lot lower now than it used to be.
>>535203458>What's the alternative then? No one wants to go back to arranged marriages at 16.1. Reduce the population. There is only less and less work for us anyway. We need to deflate the balloon.2. If a smaller and dignified population still can't breed: cloning/artificial reproduction.
>>535198433What an absurd thing to say. 99% of boys in the 12-18 age bracket only have access to girls at school.
>>535198086What a homo webm that is. You have shit taste in foids.
>>535203529So you think people having too many options is what causes people to just date around without settling down? You think if there were less people then people would be more serious?>>535203394Yeah I agree. Some people have natural affinities for things. Some people are really good at math and science, others at sports, others with women. If you're just "bad" at something, one has to ask if it's worth it to pay the cost to be good at it. With women the answer seems to be no because its a LOT of work for a product that becomes worse as the years go on.>>535203675And even from 18-21 your access to women are women in college, women you meet through your friends, and dating apps. People constantly shit on apps but once you are out of school, they become your main source for getting women.
>>535203458>But the actual classes might be harder.No, the really hard courses that used to be required are now electives that students can avoid if they aren't up to them.
>>535201437>One time I went to a friends house and he literally yelled at his sister "Wow you never wore that before in the house!" He literally made me realize I could fuck his sister with that one comment. I had no idea she was doing something special for me.If my retarded ass starts reading into every little social thing like that I'm going to be someone's girlfriend in prison bro.
>>535203684She was probably quite pretty before she roided herself up to get jacked. She should have stayed natty.
>>535203458They say they hate age gaps. But they love a lower gap. And nothing makes apparent the disparity in power between a man and a woman than years of experience. When a change in the tone of your voice makes them scared like they're a child again it also makes their pussy drip. The only thing that compares to that is confidence applied (not to them).
>>535204010Power gap*
>>535203810>So you think people having too many options is what causes people to just date around without settling down? You think if there were less people then people would be more serious?I mean that a lot of the failure to procreate is for economic reasons. Smaller population has more bargaining power against the employers and cheaper housing. I will address your concerns though: yes, but that's only a part of the issue. Why would having options be an issue to a monogamous species? There are birds that although not perfectly or lifelong monogamous, still manage to reproduce while living in vast flocks. The only real connection to "successful" marriage and family formation is the lack of liberty. I don't want that and would rather see society adapt to our natural whims and urges, since disobeying them only causes suffering.>>535203810>Yeah I agree. Some people have natural affinities for things. Some people are really good at math and science, others at sports, others with women. If you're just "bad" at something, one has to ask if it's worth it to pay the cost to be good at it. With women the answer seems to be no because its a LOT of work for a product that becomes worse as the years go on.And also, the genders are extremely unequal. Don't get me wrong, I would NEVER trade my gender, but sex is entirely the domain of women. They can order it from any gigachad they want, any day of the week, while men can lose their minds trying to find a way to stick it in. It's imperative for your own sanity to do away with the urge any way you can. I can share some ideas if you like, because I'm kind of getting there myself.
>>535198086I regret asking my co-worker out on a date. I knew once she took multiple hours to respond on snap that she was never interested.I still work with her tho
>>535203887Well I mean you don't just go up and rape her. But if she picked out an outfit for you, it's at least a sign you can go up and start talking to her. She still might be a goofy bitch who doesn't really even know what she wants, but it's for sure a golden sign to talk to her. If you have a personality you can use it and be more direct, if you're not really sure of yourself, at least try having semi interesting hobbies she can join you on. Like hiking or idk, if you're still young, going to a party, or whatever. "Hey I'm going to hike around this lake, you ever go hiking?" "No but I would anon, sounds fun!" "Hey me and your bro are going to the lake, you should come too."
>>535202045Sounds like you're a Jew who uses masonic activities as a nexcuseto wgitate towards the etinction of all whites (including your Spanish heighbours who flesh and blood you e nt to consume)
>>535201437>One time I went to a friends house and he literally yelled at his sister "Wow you never wore that before in the house!" He literally made me realize I could fuck his sister with that one comment. I had no idea she was doing something special for me.When I was 13 I was at a neighborhood kid's house and his 15yo sister walked naked from the bathroom, where she had just taken a shower, to her bedroom, and smiled as she walked past me. She was quite good looking, too. No, unfortunately, I never tapped that. That family moved back to Wisconsin less than a year later.
>>535203853That's unfortunate but desu I'd rather have more B-grade American engineers than have to take H1Bs and foreigners because "not enough Americans qualify".>>535204010Yeah they say a bunch of shit they don't mean but some younger zoomies actually buy into it. >>535204104For your first point, what if AI actually is able to fill in the gaps to the point where even with a lower population, the bargaining power is the same. For your second point I agree, women just have it much easier than men do in that aspect, but how do you expect men to cope? Porn and jerking off is constantly vilified so what is a man to do?
>>535198086youre a pussy, thats all.i would never say this.im the guy that women easily fuck.thats me. im very picky with women.
there is something called "mate-searching attitude" which means that in your eyes every woman is a potential partner, and every social interaction is aimed at, ultimately, removing her clothes.Once you have this attitude, everything will become easier, both rejection and actually succeeding. You need that energy, women see it. Look at them as if you are already thinking about what you want to do with them. This way they will see determination, which is what they want in a man.
>>535204197>I knew once she took multiple hours to respondOh yeah that's the worst. Whenever they take a long time to respond that's them communicating their level of interest. Women are always on their phones and unless they explicitly say "sorry I was doing X" they tacitly were communicating your level of importance to them. Them ghosting you though is their way of saying you matter so little to them that you don't deserve a response.
>>535204329I don't blame you, it's hard to understand that women aren't us when we are young. Knowing what I know now, I guess I probably would have just went in to her room with her and shot my shot right then and there. But who knows, maybe you never had a chance and she's just a freak who likes to tempt. But ya in that case that's a time I would just shoot my shot. I did bang the dudes sister btw, I mean she was legal, we were all adults. We dated for awhile. But I was still retarded and didn't really understand relationships either. It was too many emotions going on.
>>535204339>For your first point, what if AI actually is able to fill in the gaps to the point where even with a lower population, the bargaining power is the same.Then we crash the birth rate with no survivors. Again: who cares. If a big population isn't needed, then what's the harm in reducing the population, even to a hundreth of our current number?>but how do you expect men to cope?Stop wanting it. It's sounds harder than it is. I'm not a rapist so I don't want to want women who don't want me. If you're white, you'll get it. And since the general attitude of the opposite gender towards men is, "No thanks", you have a wholesale application to the principle. Anytime you feel desire, remember just how one-sided it is. Over time, the neural pathway to this thought strengthens and you learn to kill desire in its infancy.>Porn and jerking off is constantly vilified so what is a man to do?Uhm... I don't know. How about... don't give a shit? Fap, fuck whores to see what it all is, go gay for all I or anyone truly cares. You're a free man.
>>535198086Things aren't so black and white
>>535198086It is brown thoigh.
>>535204534>just revolve your life around getting laid>it makes getting laid easyBut not life. You're basically making an animal of yourself for the privilege of exotic cooming.
>>535202819Up until the mid 20th century people just married their highschool sweethearts or freshman college girlfriends or boyfriends. My parents met in high school. My grandparents met in college. My parents and grandparents all got married when they were about 20 or 21.
>>535204815Up to the mid 20th century people either completely lacked public education, or schools were gender segregated.
>>535198086>For instance once you ask a girl out and she rejects youThe fuck is this shit, hole? get the fuck out of /pol/ already.Not a virgin, had girlfriends, still hate women and their bullshit, and the state that caters to their needs and egos.
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>>535204815That's how it is even now. The people that I know that are married are married to someone they met in high school or college. If they didn't find someone by 21, they're still single in their mid-late 20s.
>>535204869>Up to the mid 20th century people either completely lacked public education, or schools were gender segregated.Maybe in your country. Not here.
>>535204921>The short answer is that legally, state-enforced school segregation ended in 1954, but practically, it took until the early 1970s for widespread integration to actually happen.
>>535204912Right, but the percentage of White people marrying at that age has decreased. It was almost universal then. It's probably way below 50% now.
>>535198086Still no salsa
>>535198086you aren't made for this, boy. tune into your instincts. if you do not feel like a force of nature with fire in your blood, something is wrong. a woman will smell it on you if you are low testosterone. get on test 300 and hit the gym. 5-10 sessions with an experienced buddy/trainer. then 5 days a week
>>535198533So what you're saying is that carpentry>women.Got it.
>>535204978Public schools in the U.S. were NOT segregated by sex in the 20th century or even in the 19th century.
>>535204534I feel like this is what Indian men do and we all see the problems with that, but I do agree that you need to be confident. >>535204611Could have gotten you beaten up by her brother or worse. There's always a risk>>535205016Because most women nowadays would rather just focus on their career, have casual sex and not have to deal with the effort of a "relationship".
This song is what being young and in love, but also all fucked up with emotions, knowing it's falling apart, but still high on being young, feels like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvtJVku_mJwSorry if any of you anons never got to have this. Although I missed out on the whole marrying a high school sweetheart. Kind of regret that. Jewish psyops got me. Having kids young is based. To be clear I haven't given up or anything. I would never give up.
>>535205117>If I say it with enough determination, it will become true!What is this mental illness?
>>535204662Most people wouldn't want to reduce the population, and the only effective way to do it is some massive epidemic like COVID but much more lethal. Women also want men, but just a small percentage, I agree though the average man they have no desire for.
>>535205129>Could have gotten you beaten up by her brother or worse. There's always a riskIf she's showing her naked body to you, what the fuck are you supposed to do lol. That shit tempted the angles. Any who cares, everyone takes a beating sometime.
>>535205215>Most people wouldn't want to reduce the populationWe're already on track to seriously reduce our population in most democratic countries. Some will even halve by the end of the century with the current birth rates.>Women also want men, but just a small percentage, I agree though the average man they have no desire for.But you're not that small percentage so you can opt out. My principle applies.
>>535205210>If I pointlessly troll people on a Mongolian basketweaving forum, maybe my life will finally amount to something.Okay, Milan. Good luck with that.
>>535204799Yes it is a hard life but it is the only available one for many men especially in some countries. this is also an evolutionary trait, desiring to mate with every female. we are built for this.>>535205129but they do it in a cringe and abusive way, and that is bad. I am not saying put your crotch on some girl ass on the bus, I mean just always make compliments and be kind and smiling. Voice and the way you move your hands are also very important.
>>535198086factbomb
>>535198086>do nothing>wingo for it!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&ra=m
>>535205908I will accept your position when you substantiate it with a citation.>>535205931>Yes it is a hard life but it is the only available one for many men especially in some countries.There's always different things to do, now more than ever. Simping isn't a law of physics.
>>535198303>>535198086WHO??
>>535198086>the jestermaxxing you have to do just for the opportunity to be a boyfriend is pointless, especially if you're over the age of 23.This is why I've given up. I am full of regret for not impregnating my ex when I had the chance. She basically begged for my sperm at one point, but I nutted outside because I thought having children at that point in my life would have been stupid. It wouldn't have.
>>535206159So fucking her wasn't enough, but you think having babies would? All while OP like most incels have never even gotten nearly that far and would swear it's all they ever need? Do you people ever stop to think that maybe you can't ever find a final satisfaction in anything? There are always greener pastures to look for.
I started making music with absolutely zero idea about music theory ,eventually learned enough to make music but I'll probably never be anywhere near composer level or something or someone who studied in school, or use synthss, or mix and master... You get the idea. The only experience I had with music was playing a bass in high school but now make genuinely good tracks. >For instance once you ask a girl out and she rejects you, it'll forever be awkward between you twoBut dude, if you felt that strongly about her then I'd say that was worth it... Maybe she'd feel the same way, most of the time women wait for a man to initiate anyways. It'd absolutely suck to see your oneitis get married and have kids and talk to you less and less.
>>535202111yea, form a relationship then ask for a date if she is seemingly interested, shouldnt be hard to tell though
>>535205931The general skill of tasteful flirting is lost on a lot of people.
>>535206121>I will accept your position when you substantiate it with a citation.>SOURCE?! SOURCE?! SOURCE?!
>>535198086I honestly should've asked a few girls that seemed interested in me out. The unresolved feeling is much worse. Rejection gives you closure and lets you know that you need to move on an stop obsessing over this person that does not like you. Unless you are a psycho, you should not really be attracted to people that could care less about you.
>>535206607>Uhm, ackshually, written evidence is for REDDIT. Here on 4chang.org, we believe in the power of original MEMES and being BASED!
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