Just got diagnosed with this bullshit in my 20s and I do not trust what the doctors are suggesting for treatment. Any anons have experience avoiding pharmajew immunomodulators?
It took 6 years for me but then it went away. Felt good getting sickbux all the time.
>>535219760Chaga, black cumin
>>535219760Carnivore diet reverses it.
>>535219760try eating as little fat as possible
>>535219760You gotta get someone else’s poop shoved in your butt.Make sure your doctor isn’t Jewish or he will solve gay poop in your butt and make you gay.t. Knower
>>535219760Look up how to eat, and don't deviate. It's an autoimmune disease, if I'm not mistaken, just like arthritis and many other inflammatory diseases. Diet is critical. Watch every single relevant video on YouTube about it.
>>535219760>Tobacco smokers are three times as likely to develop Crohn's disease as non-smokers.Parasites. It has to be fucking parasites. Sure, it COULD be fungal(treat with pure gum spirits), but tobacco indicates parasites.
>>535219882Is this suggestion based on anything at all?
>>535219760have you checked for sleep apnea? Get a sleep testif it's not sleep apnea, and your diet isn't shit, then you're pretty much fucked genetically speaking - it's just genetic crohns at that point
>>535219760DON'T TRUST THE MEDICAL JEWRY SORCERY, ANON Their talmudic pills are straight poison from the synagogue of Satan!! Pray five times a day like a warrior, channel raw divine grace straight from Heaven, God bless that SPEEDY RECOVERY, NO PHARMAKEIA SHALL TOUCH YOU!!
>>535219760go on the GAPS diet, you will be cured within 6 months to 1 year.also good chance you don't even have anything at all but a normal reaction to a shitty diet, Crohn's is doctor speak for "there is something wrong with your digestive system and we have no idea what it is"
>>535219760You should probably also get tested for celiac and allergies, there might be something specific you need to avoid. Or try elimination diets and experiment for yourself
>>535220020I have the specific NOD2 gene mutation associated with it unfortunately
>>535219760Black seed oilOil of OreganoNACBerberine
>>535219760Did you wipe your ass too hard?
>>535220104Doomed, huh? I hear heroin feels pretty nice.
>>535220052I agree that doctors know zero about crohn's beyond "your immune system is attacking your intestines for some unknown reason.' The idea of turning off my immune system as a solution is insane
>>535219998Mystical intuition and jewish propaganda.
>>535219760We were never supposed to each so much fucking bread. It's all the simple carbs and high fructose goy syrup. Go back to your roots.
>>535220213get a book on the GAPS diet and cut out all goyslop. you can reverse it without taking immunisuppresents that will kill you, but you need to heal your gut
Stop eating breakfast.
>>535219760>I do not trust what the doctors are suggesting for treatment.Why not? Get another doctor's opinion.>Any anons have experience avoiding pharmajew immunomodulators?Oh you're retarded. I hope you have a slow painful death the less of you voting the better.
>>535220308Why would you eat bread? It's peasant tier food with basically no nutritional value, I'd only eat it in a survival situation.
read the candida cure, frendo
>>535220437Bread is present in most staple american foods so even if you individually avoid it, there's 300 million others who eat it frequently. That's partially why these diseases are so common
>>535220437Unenriched.(thanks, spell check. Yes, surely I meant "enriched)Unbleached.Fermented.Yes, you have to get rid of the phytic acid.
>>535219760 Vaccination status?
>>535219760Eat more raw meat and consume unpasteurized milk and it will resolve on its own. You may have gotten vaxxed from a family member. Don’t listen to doctors. Good luck
>>535220678never vaxxed
>>535219760I got lyme disease induced crohn's. My cure? One 2mg nicotine gum a day, very strong evidence nicotine helps ibd.l-glutamine supplements.Psyllium husk powder with plenty of water once a day.And finally, the most important thing, capsaicin. A whole lot of capsaicin. I worked my tolerance up and ate a carolina reaper (fresh or dried same amount of heat) every evening after dinner for a year and a half. The benefits were already enormous at a habanero a day, but if you can get more, get more. Start with less, if your tolerance isn't ready you will shit too much. But you want it to burn. You get used to the burn. No, none of this is a joke.
>>535219760dude, mr beast has that shit alsomy condolences
>>535219760You took the vaxx didnt you?
>>535220843We'll call it "parasite induced impacted fecal deposits."
>>535219760anti-inflammatory diet
>>535220340but I didn't have no breakfast
>>535219760My brother has this shit. The only good answer he found was>no gluten at all>no nightshades>no spices>nothing high in fiber or fatsSo basically, chicken, white rice, fruit. Or basically this >>535220314, eat an extremely limited diet only, and expand outwards to see the results. He went from shitting blood, having death shits and anemic to being of decent enough health.
>>535221004Proof nicotine starts parasitic infections? Not trying to be a redditor but id love more anti nicotine info
>>535219760Dude, you’re fucked. For. The. Rest. Of. Your. Life.. sorry dude, unless you are a Trump supporter. Then you get what you deserve.
>>535219760Unironically nicotine. It helps with Ulcerative Colitis too. Pick up a cigarette, or, if that isnt your style, get nicotine gum.
>>535219760saw someone say accutane was a cause which makes sense bc its basically an artificial vitamin a overdose. vit a od (or deficiency) = no intestine mucus = pathogens get into epithelial and ifnyou have a susceptible phenotypes you get the prolonged immune response (or maybe its actually a persistent infection of epithelial)
Stop eating goyslop and pounding craft pale ales dude
>>535221112Basically stop eating completely, see if symptoms improve. Then re-introduce foods one by one, starting with just chicken, then just chicken and rice, until symptoms come back. Then you know what it is. If it doesn't ever go away, then you know it's something else.
>>535219760>>535219833> taking medical advice> from the internet> from /pol/ of all placesi seriously hope you guys don't do thisthat said, stomach ulcers are caused by a bacteria that disrupts the mucus membrane and protective coating of the stomach. Crohn's disease is probably similar, with another organism that's inside the intestines (or body in general) that is causing the disruption. Remove that species from your body and you could recover.Unless it's genetic... Then you're fucked and will just have to accept living with it, and manage it with a new diet.
>>535221004Nah it was lyme. I got lyme and was in stage one for months, felt like shit, self diagnosed myself once it hit stage 2 going into stage 3. Went to the er and told them that was what I had and to test me for it. I was positive for the short and long tests. Antibiotics cured the lyme but it left my gut wrecked. I did a lot of research and experimenting and settled on the cure I already posted. If you just "trust the doctors" you're not getting cured. I found all the studies to back up my claims, they are all published online but none make it into mainstream healthcare because the studies never funded any further even though results are promising because big pharma would rather keep you sick and profitable. Think of it like this, my cure was without a single prescription drug and it eliminated my ibd.I still do the nicotine gum, l-glutamine, and psyllium husk. But my capsaicin intake is now only whatever I get in my diet.
>>535219760The doctors are probably right in the treatment OP. Don't fuck yourself up further with dumbass suggestions online.
>>535219760If you want a guaranteed and instant cure cut out vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, processed foods, anything with dough(grain sludge), acidic fruits and eat traditional dishes, meat organs omelettes etc but go easy on milk and lactose with the exception of unsalted butter and cottage cheese, eat also non acidic fruits. Avoid also pan fried or any fried meats, go for boiled instead. If you have any digestion issues it is 100000000000000% your diet that is at fault doctors think and want people to believe that it is just something that happens randomly. Oh shoot you have IBS or Crohn's... Well it is because you ate unnatural foods, foods they recommended to you in the first place like bread and vegetables.
>>535219760Raw milk kefir is a miracle food. I had intestinal issues for years and it cured it. I also had to quit drinking but even a year out I was having issues. Kefir healed me. It gave me back a quality of life that I feared was gone forever.Make raw milk kefir, drink a glass of it every morning. It's truly a miracle cure.
>>535221121Nicotine is literally a plant poison."Cancer" caused by tobacco consumption is a mixture of parasitic cysts and radioisotope induced cancer from upwind atmospheric nuclear weapons(they moved to the south pacific for a fucking reason).This should be sufficient information for you to connect the dots unassisted. Even the flat statement you responded to should have been enough.Ask better questions. You know, like actually fishing for search terms. Or just reading about fucking tobacco and nicotine.
>>535219894Does it have to be a doctor?
>>535221223>>535221112white rice is pro-inflammatory. opt-in to rices in picrel
>>535220398>>535219760been on my 'immunomodulator' for almost 15 years now, no side effectsthe bigger side effect is the resection between small and large intestine, without drinking a nasty 'binding' powder suspension every day I will have horrific explosive diarrhea from the sheer amount of bile leaking into my colon.tldr, use the meds retard, a months long intestinal blockage is one of the most painful things you can experience
>>535219760Start with: eat only organic, jog once or twice a week, get good sleep. Then maybe look into fasting if it helps with that.
>>535221260LYME IS A PARASITIC INFECTION.That it relapses/recurs is explicit. There is a reservoir of the bacteria.
>>535221332I want you to help me start my search. I look up tobacco parasite and ill never find anything. Just help a guy out, give me a foothold
>>535219760German New Medicine. An emotional conflict caused this.
>>535221359which one? 6-mp / azathioprine or a biologic?
>>535221241Yea just take medical advice from the doctors then right?You're a moron.You don't trust anyone in this world. You have to aggregate your own information through your own research and word of mouth. You USE doctors, you don't trust them, ever. You use them for the tests and needed prescriptions only. And you have to know all about any prescription before you take it.
>>535219760Pay attention to your diet. Smoke tobacco. Smoke weed.Eating shit makes you feel like shit. Start cooking whole foods instead of eating chemicals. Tobacco helps with digestion, weed helps with appetite and the weird gut spasms.You can put that shit in remission without putting research chemicals in your body. It sucks, and it takes a while. But it can go away without paying to be a labrat.Hell, you could probably do it without smoking if you were tough.
>>535221405Ok, so take a step back and reread the sentence correctly.Tobacco is antiparasitic.Why are you trying to figure out how tobacco CAUSES parasitic infection? You've flipped cause and effect.
>>535221423biologic, the self injected one because i can't be assed to drive down to a hospital every month to have it done by nurses
>>535219760I can give you some advice since I got diagnosed with this a little over 6 years ago (in my early 20s) and I haven't been able to take any treatments since I had too many bad side effects during the trial runs. Despite that, my specialist says that I'm doing better than most of his patients. All I do is drink 3L of water a day and completely avoid refined sugar, and the only sugar I consume is unpasteurized honey. Another thing that helps is going on jogs
>>535221403No it's not.You're talking to someone who lived it. I felt so much better after 36-48 hours after starting Doxycycline, I was on the maximum dose for a month. The lyme didn't come back. Cured lyme does not come back. Lyme damages you while you have it in various ways, that's what people get stuck with, not the bacteria. If you still have the actual lyme bacteria you will die of lyme encephalitis.
>>535219998>Is this suggestion based on anything at all?why not try it? I try and eat as little fat as possible and it has only done me good. Without eating fat, food flys through my colon. food I ate yesterday is in the toilet in the morning. I'm sure this would help your crohns.I steam stuff in a pressure cooker so I don't cook with oil. I eat lots of bean tomato stew, potatoes, sweet potatoes, plantains, starchy foods, and I sweeten them with aspartame to make them taste good without adding sugar and salt.
>>535221528Speaking of impacted faecal matter...hello, faggot.
>>535219760This guy was killed for warning about covid vaccine back thenhttps://vt.tiktok.com/ZSxFkVDUP/
>all these amerimutts with mess than zero faith in their healthcare systemhow's hypercapitalism working out for you, buds?
>>535219760Literally every single thing is treatable with lots of sunshine, cutting sugar, and drinking more water. Also unironically faith (placebo). If you believe you'll recover, you will.
>>535221564>what do you mean I can take so much antibiotics that the parasites get treated too?You are allowed to connect the dots.
Go to the 4plebs pol archives and search up stuff like "crohns cure" "crohns fix" "crohns heal" and you'll probably find helpful info. Theres also an alternative doctor named Bryan Ardis you can look up who may have knowledge of how to fix it
>>535221332Nicotine is strikingly similar to caffeine and both can hurt you in the same way if you overdo them.Both have pros and cons. Both are pesticides created by nature. Both are found all across the plant world in varying amounts. But coffee beans have the most caffeine by far and tobacco plants have the most nicotine by far.
Wouldn't hurt to look at your hip mobility.YouTube nowadays is a great source for information. Why is this important?A difference in hip mobility between both sides of your pelvis will result in the quite a wide range of issues in the gut and bowel due to pelvis sitting slightly rotated to one side. The body doesn't like this. It likes symmetry and balance. It's an absurdly overlooked 'health issue' and could well be considered a genuine example of a 'red pill' in terms of useful things to know.
>>535221667Bro why do you believe it's a protist or flatworm (you haven't specified what you mean) acting as a delivery system for the bacteria that we definitely know causes the lyme symptoms? Why are you inserting the middle man?
>>535221528do you drink it a lot at a time or spread out?
>>535220308you know nothing about western historic diets, I see. We eat less bread than our ancestors.
>>535221735They're also ineffective antiparasitics because they are anti-herbivore insecticides. Hence the response being defense rather than death.
>>535219760I bet you are a smoker, arnt you.
>>535219760enjoy your poopbag lole
>>535221897>whyDuration of tick habitation required for transmission.Relapses caused by insufficient treatment length.Antiparasitics schedules not existing for humans despite being prevalent for livestock.Antiparasitics being generally limited OTC.You know, pattern recognition.
>>535221913Spread out. I drink 500mL in the morning, 500mL at lunch, 500mL right when I get home from work, 500mL with supper (unless it's salty, then I'll have a full litre), and then 1L in the evening
Avoid seed oils, corn syrup, artificial slop. EGCG, beef organ supplements, Digestive Enzymes. Ginger tea, ginger ale, Chinese ginger candies. All amazon keywords. Indica weed, CBD.
>>535220213>"your immune system is attacking your intestines for some unknown reason"It's due to pathogens, which the immune system is supposed to attack. Others have said parasites and Candida. It can be both of these and more.The more general term is "gut dysbiosis".The long term solution is gut health.First you gotta deal with those pathogens.These pathogens thrive in bacterial biofilms that lodge onto the mucus layer of the intestinal wall.Solutions that dislodge and dissolve these biofilms:NACPapain (Papaya seeds) Bromelain (Fresh Pineapple) Berberine (Barberry, Goldenseal) Thymoquinone (Black Seed Oil) Carvacrol (Oil of Oregano) Eugenol (Cloves and Clove Oil) There are many herbal supplements and protocols for treatment of Crohns, IBS, SIBO, Colitis etc. And you will find many of them use some combination of the components listed above.Natural sources are best!
>>535219983>>535221975I got Crohn's and I've never smoked before. Neither tobacco nor drugs of any kind
>>535222261And yet you ignored my first response to you. Curious.
>>535219853Cutting wheat and dairy resolves most gut issues
>>535221426Who to trust>a doctor who, at the very least, was legally obligated to complete some form of schooling related to general field of medical careOr>some guy on the internet who likely has no real friends or family and probably works a dead end job that required no formal education whatsoeverJust ask fucking grok at this point.
>>535221528I forgot to mention that I also drink lemon ginger tea every day. That might be one of the more important things. Steep it for longer than recommended, you want it to be strong
>>535219760Ok and? How is this my problem or political?
>>535222359>>some guy on the internet who likely has no real friends or family and probably works a dead end job that required no formal education whatsoever>wHy ArE yOuNg MeN dRoPpInG oUt Of SoCiEtY?Jeet? Woman? Estrogen prescription? Oblivious retard?Which is it, leaf?
>>535222469>spergs out over something elseMaybe young men are dropping out of society because they go on the internet and genuinely believe everything they read online.
>>535222096>Duration of tick habitation required for transmission.I don't even know what you mean. You mean how the tick probably needs to be on you for 36 hours? I'm not sure why it would make more sense that a protist needs 36 hours to be delivered than a bacteria. It has to do with the amount of time it takes before a tick regurgitates as it feeds. By the way NEVER kill a tick while it's attached as you guarantee regurgitation. >Relapses caused by insufficient treatment length.We see this with bacteria all the time. This is because doctors are retarded midwit quacks who for some fucking reason don't understand that if you're going to prescribe antibiotics it's better to go balls to the wall especially with serious shit like lyme because you risk antibiotic resistance if you don't kill it 100%. I;m not sure why this proves a protist is the delivery system.>Antiparasitics schedules not existing for humans despite being prevalent for livestock.Big pharma wants to keep you sick. I know this. Doctors blindly follow protocol and hate testing or treating for parasites. How does this prove anything about lyme in particular though? There are many parasites out there.>Antiparasitics being generally limited OTC.Addressed by the same stuff I said above.I don't see a reason to think it doesn't just go tick->bacteria rather than tick->protist->bacteria.
>>535222469Damn you mad. Take a doctor prescribed chill pill.
>>535221487>>Tobacco smokers are three times as likely to develop Crohn's disease as non-smokers.>Parasites. It has to be fucking parasites. Sure, it COULD be fungal(treat with pure gum spirits), but tobacco indicates parasites.You implied tobacco caused parasites in your first post>tobacco smokers are three times more likely to develop crohns>tobacco indicates parasitesAre you esl?
>>535221611Sounds like the Ital diet.Do you watch "Murder, She Wrote?"
>>535219760>>535219853I friend of mine had diagnosed and he is fine with a paleo diet. I would try a keto carnivore paleo diet and hope for the best.
>>535219760pure peptides dot bioBpc–157 pills, swallow them with water on an empty stomach or with beef collagen powder drink (no dairy for 4 fours before or after). Do at night and morning.Buy bitcoin at bitcoin ATM to pay for it.
>>535222521>something elseI'm sorry, did you not understand what I said? I won't be saying it any more simply because that really is all it is.The character of your response is illustrative. You are not demonstrating confusion, only misbegotten offense.Enjoy, fag adjacent.>>535222547>nuh uhBut...why? What fucking purpose does this response serve?Either leave the comment or respond in good faith.
>>535219760>Just got diagnosed with this bullshit...You're inbred and a fake "Jew"
>>535222305Probably because you are a retarded nigger who has no idea what he is talking about. Your posts are peak midwit and I hope to fuck you are a zoomer because if you are that clueless and have some years under you, you are completely lost.
>>535222570Oh, look.A meds poster.I wonder who could be behind this post.
>>535222578>indicates>reads it as "transmits">calls me ESLAre you a literal retard? Please review the definitions of "induce" and "symptom."
>>535222359I am giving information. What people choose to do with it is their choice. I aggregated what I know though curiosity and necessity. For the topic of this thread I have lived experience and know what worked for me.You just appeal to an institution of authority like a retard. You ever stop to think maybe the entire institution is corrupt at it's core and motivated by money like everything else?You trust doctors. It's not your responsibility to think.I use doctors. It's my responsibility to think.Don't project your inability to do what I can onto me. I am probably just better at this stuff than you could ever be. Some people unfortunately might be better off just trusting doctors blindly, that's pretty scary but unfortunately thinking isn't for everyone.
>>535221955You're talking the part of history when mass agriculture was being developed, but it wasn't like today where everyone only grows fuel crops now. Big populations survived on wheat, but there were tubers, other grains with protein in them, hunting and livestock, too.
>>535222807>rees because I called someone a faggotTypical. Bait is meant to be ignored.
>>535221913The sugar part is the biggest part of that recipe you were given. Sugar is poison.
>>535219760Stop eating all goyslop and chemicals.Try fasting, 18-36 hours at a time. Reduce Alcohol and caffine consumption.Do not sit long on the toilet and try to avoid going more than 3x a day.Excerscie will help as well. You dont need to eat all day. Just give your gut time to reset and rest and you will slowly improve over time.
Different issue than OP, but I got diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism Basically, for whatever reason, my body decided it is a good idea to just produce minimal amounts of the hormone that makes a man manlyMy testosterone is like in the double digits, lolIdk why or for how long it's been like that. I'm willing to bet though that a majority of guys nowadays though have secondary hypogonadism too and they don't even realize it, because you have to specifically ask your doctor to get your testosterone levels checked, it's not like an automatic routine thing
>>535222261Sick without having fun first. Shame.
>>535219760Man Crohns is really tough. I only know one man who had it and he got healed by the aliens.His name is Chris Bledsoe, might wanna check out his story.Best of luck anon!
>>535222757I am responding in good faith. I don't know why you are inserting the middle man, I don't see a need for it.
>>535219760Sucks bro. Cut out gluten.
>>535219983CHRONS AND UCLERATIVE COLITIS are mainly ar esulty of the western diet, and it is a disease observed in populations that gradually adopt a western diet
>>535222974>Try fastingWhat a thing to say to someone with Crohns.Fasting is probably the only thing this nigger will do from now on.
>>535222641wow never heard of that diet. Very similar though. I don't eat fish or fatty things like avocados. I consume whey isolate for animal protein. if you can tolerate non fat dairy that is probably preferable.
>>535222342Can confirm.
>>535222888Please review the definition of indicate. Indicate implies that one leads to the other, such as the map indicates where the treasure is located. The map is showing the location of the treasure. The tobacco indicates parasites meaning the tobacco shows parasites. Put that with the first part of the comment, that tobacco users are three times as likely to get crohns, and then that tobacco indicates parasites and your argument is that parasites are causing crohns, your observation from the first post implies that tobacco causes parasitic infection. Im sorry you have a tenuous grasp on the English language, but that is what you typed.
>>535222895Of course I'm going to appeal to authority in regards to medical shit, especially because the recommendations here range from outright trolling to facebook remedy tier shit like "Just don't eat fat!" or "Go on a carnivore diet!".I was being blunt, because this is retarded. You're retarded and think too highly of yourself and your own abilities. You don't know shit about the human body, you think you do, but you couldn't articulate what fucking muscles are used when you pick up a cup of coffee. And yeah, they want money, but also, they're not gonna fucking murder you because then they won't get money. They're not gonna fuck up your operation because then the doctor who did it loses their job and becomes disgraced. When they actually wring people out for money is on prescriptions, which you can just choose to not take as they're mostly just painkillers. That's it.
>>535219760kim chi or cultured yogurt and cabbage
>>535219760As others are suggesting, diet. Stop drinking sugary drinks, stop eating a lot of sugar, eat more red meats and natural shit, less carbs.However there is great reason to suspect that autoimmune diseases such as Crohns are psychosomatic - meaning, something regarding your mental health, your personality, is setting this off.Perhaps you're a pushover in some fashion, and you're bottling up your emotions. Perhaps you're bubbling with resentment. Perhaps you're very pent-up. There's a great myriad of anecdotes from victims as well as members of the medical community which assert that mental pathology predisposes humans towards not only specific autoimmune diseases, but also cancers.>from Gabor Mate's 'Myth of Normal'Cancer doctors/nurses in some places have literally made a game of guessing which women test positive for breast cancer. If a woman is very agreeable, a pushover, 'too nice', they're almost certainly bound to have breast cancer. Stress and trauma predispose you towards bodily issues.
>>535223190>in which anon specifically follows the correct chain of logic and then proceeds to insist something elseDude. What the FUCK.Direct quote from this comment I am responding to that you wrote:>tobacco shows parasitesFrom me:>, but tobacco indicates parasites.You are allowed to be wrong.
>>535219760dont listen to bro memes on here, talk to a doctor you dumbass. Don't waste your time on meme diets either they are all bad for you. The only thing that has any studies behind it is the Valter Longo FMD cycles
>>535219760i have ulceric colitis
>>535222972dont @ me brainlet>>535222148have you had h pylori tests?
>>535219760There's an auto immune diet you should go on and it will literally cure chron's. I have a friend who had that shit all his life and was skin and bones and finally saw a different doctor that told him about this diet. It's extremely strict, but if you stick to it you'll be able to eat pretty much anything once you've cured it. It's called like the autoimmune protocol or something.
>>535223467So are you. You can admit that you did not clarify that because tobacco smokers are irritating the parasites and this is causing the parasites to irritate the bowel, that that can possibly prove a parasitic infection for the cause of crohns. Because that isn't what you said. But no youre gonna continue to sperg out at everyone in this thread because you dont understand how to communicate effectively and expect everyone to be a mind reader
>>535223720This poster tongues my anus.tell me I'm wrongpoint out what part was wrong
>>535223228If you were in my shoes chances are you never would have even gotten tested for lyme until you were well into stage 3. You wouldn't have self diagnosed and demanded a test like I did. Then with lyme induced crohns you would have taken whatever prescription they handed you and lived with crohns for the rest of your life in misery.I'm better than you, sorry I just am. You don't even try to think for yourself. You trust. I can think, some cannot. Maybe you could and you just choose not to. Some people have their heart in the right place and try to think and are misguided because they are bad thinkers. But I can do it. I will continue to think and use doctors, not trust doctors.
>>535223763Yes, I am a sperg because I am annoyed that you are continuing to insist that I misspoke when you simply misread a comment and then proceeded to insist that the logic that elucidates regarding my post was not the logic I used within the post that explicitly uses the words required to produce said chain of logic that you somehow understand but refuse to see, likely due to correct usage of punctuation and separation of the components by an aside.Do you desire that I be even more verbose?
>>535219760i don't take any medications.you can put crohn's into remission by smoking a lot of weed, constantly. but with the amount of weed you have to smoke, you want to use a vaporizer (picrel) or edibles. you want to be aware of cannabis hyperemesis syndrome and take tolerance breaks so you don't get it. and you DO NOT want to smoke weed as often as it takes to put crohns in remission if you have a family history of schizophrenia, psychosis, if you get panic attacks or if you are susceptible to the "trippy" aspects of weed.fasting once in a while also makes a huge difference for me. you don't want to take it too far and interfere with your ability to keep on weight, but fasting is good for both your gut and immune system.mediterranean diet or at least no goy slop and seed oils is highly recommended. if you have crohn's you can't eat out at most places or eat fast food or anything like that. read the ingredients list for everything you eat and prepare your own food.having a lot of fermented foods in your diet can also help the same way fasting can, to a lesser extent. a little dish of fresh sauerkraut or some kimchi will do the trick. if you buy it premade get it in the refridgerated section with no preservatives.
>>535219760Stop eating sugar, stop drinking alcohol, minimise wheat consumption, stop eating junk food. Cook your own food, some meat, eggs etc, vegetarian meals on evenings. Do a 3 day water fast once every 3 months make sure to take electrolytes when you do
>>535219760Its not lethal or anything, so you can just live with with it if you don't want medication. General anti-inflammatory stuff might help. My dad took meds for it for over a decade until it just went away and didn't come back at one point.
>>535223963Its ok to make mistakes champ. I have irl friends like you, I get that sometimes you get worked up and speak before your sentences are fully developed. It isn't a reflection on your intelligence, I dont need to see your hs GPA or hear about your AP classes. I can tell you got a brain in your skull. Just take this as a lesson to pump your brakes and make sure what you have to say is correct.
>>535219760You’re not going to cure it with diet, I’m sorry to tell you. Diet can mitigate the effects, but get on some pharma juice and get healthy again. Or suffer, your choice. t. Diagnosed years agoMy one bit of advice is DO NOT pay medical bills. The biologic medicine you’ll need infused every 8 weeks is very expensive, but not paying will have zero repercussions.
Eat raw meat, especially organs such as liver
>>535224174>literally explicitly states the logic chain present in the first post>still arguingYes. I am aware that you are baiting. Yes. I enjoy calling you stupid for pretending to be stupid. Yes. You did run out of line.
>>535220843i've had very good results from nicotine, l-glutamine and psyllium husk as well but capsaicin was no dice for me, eaten or topical. >>535221528i also consume next to zero sugar other than local honey. when i throw up it tastes sweet or metallic, which really put me off from sweets.
>>535222305Your first response was just calling me a faggot. What was I supposed to do, call you a nigger? I didn't think that would accomplish anything so I didn't bother until now
>>535223986RSO
>>535224264Im not arguing lol not anymore anyway just try to help another anon make sure they dont ruin real relationships by being a sperg who speaks before thoughts are fully thought out. You dont wanna be alone at 40, trust me
>>535219760Did you try anti-amoebics first?Stay away from lots of carbs and eat proteins.
>>535219760This will fix it, it will lower bowel inflammation.
>>535224306rso is great too. thc weed seems to help me the most but rso did wonders for my old roommate.
>>535219760I've had crohns since I was a teen. i've tried most of the shit suggested ITT and almost none of it helped. the only thing you can 100% reliably do is just identify what causes flare ups and avoid those things. unfortunately it will flare up anyway sometimes but the key is minimizing it. I've tried every diet there is and nothing helped except cutting out wheat products. turmeric can help and I juice ginger and take shots of that which can reverse a flare up. ignore anyone who says anything about parasites, they are a schizo or a retard.
>>535219760I got diagnosed with autismMakes no sense because everyone likes legos and magnates>but anon, you’re 38So what, you hate Legos. Who’s the real bad guy??
>>535219760We live in the dimension of suffering. Eating all the best tasting foods is forbidden. You must stick to only eating boring meat and fish because they typically don't trigger any kind of immune response or reaction. Your drink of choice is plain water. What fun! One may think that this is great because meat is delicious, but eating it every day and nothing else will make you sick and tired of it, even if healthy. Think of it this way. Everything has a defense mechanism. The flavor of plants are actually the chemicals they developed in order to keep pests away. Fruits are different but only when ripe. Plants want you to eat them because they contain their seeds, it's their way to reproduce. You eat the fruit, seed included, shit it in the designated shitting street like a filthy Pajeet, and new life sprouts! Amazing... well, this works only in the context of actual animals that aren't humans, shitting toilets. As if nature understands what a toilet is. Milk can also be an issue because of the various compounds it contains. But fish and animal meat? Well, depends on the origin and how many soi and antibiotics they were fed. If the meat is clean then the defense was the animal itself. Once that's dead, the meat is completely defenseless and doesn't react in any negative way.
>>535224379>haha I'm just trying to helpI told you precisely when you broke character and lost the plot. You're welcome. Good luck next time.
>>535219760Fasting, carnivore, then keto with fermented vegetables and acidic healthy foods, drink as much lemon squeezed into water as you like
>>535224268The capsaicin was the biggest help out of everything I listed when I was suffering from bad ibd after lyme, nicotine second, psyllium husk and l-glutamine are probably tied can't say for sure not going to stop either one. You should try again but don't outpace your tolerance. I don't mean how much it burns in the mouth, I mean gut tolerance. Gut tolerance takes much longer to build than the mouth.Go as slow as you need to. I had a head start because I've enjoyed capsaicin since I was a kid so it was easier for me than most.
its cause of artificial sugars hahaha get fucked
>>535219894>t. Knower>posts misleading informationI'll post the correct information. You need to find a poop donor. Someone similar in genetics and of good health. It does not have to be family. And eat a tablespoon of their poop once per day for two weeks. And you will need to insert at least a tablespoon of their poop into your colon, and hold it there for a minimum of two hours every day. These are the doses once your body has gotten used to their poop. You want to start small with only a small piece much less than a tablespoon incase your body tries to reject the poop. Crohns disease is a parasitic infection. So what you are doing is introducing a healthier parasite blend into yourself to displace the current parasites that are causing the issues. This is why screening for health is important. If they suffer from various health disorders, it is likely you will develop those. For example, if they have acne, mental health issues, tiredness, weakness, obesity, inability to gain weight, and any kind of chronic health issue, then ingesting their poop will cause the same issues. Conversly, if they are healthy, then ingesting their poop will strengthen your health.
>>535224393It helps, but it doesnt fix it. I take 3000mg/day and it means less bloated feeling, but still rough.
>>535224507>broke character>has just spent the whole thread either asking anon to give sources to help with claim or to help clarify claim>break character I hope you aren't like this irl. Because it aint gonna work out
>>535224621Is this the part where I say "You must be 18 to post here?"It still feels off, but you're just making more confused. One doesn't simply shift to a new grift when you've already revealed yourself as a grifter to the party in question.
i havent taken a normal shit in like 2 years
>>535219760Eat a bunch of ginger and abstain from jerking off for two whole weeks. By a bunch I mean like a whole fucking ginger root a day. You're super dosing that shit, so don't be a pussy.
>>535219760>avoiding pharmajew immunomodulators"We report on 10 cases of IBD responsive to ketogenic, mostly carnivore, diets. Clinical presentations were diverse, including six cases of UC and four of Crohn's disease. Clinical improvements were universal, with clinical improvement scores ranging between 72 and 165 points on the IBDQ. Patients' diets comprised mostly meat, eggs, and animal fats. Patients report their diets are pleasurable, sustainable, and unequivocally enhance their quality of life." - ["Case report: Carnivore-ketogenic diet for the treatment of inflammatory bowel disease: a case series of 10 patients" (2024)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39296504/)"A new randomized controlled study funded by the Crohn’s & Colitis Foundation found that time-restricted feeding—a form of intermittent fasting—significantly reduced symptomatic disease activity and systematic inflammation in adults with Crohn’s disease and overweight or obesity. The University of Calgary-led trial is the first to show that eating only within an 8-hour window can reduce Crohn’s disease activity by 40% and abdominal discomfort by 50% in just 12 weeks, compared to a standard eating schedule." - https://www.crohnscolitisfoundation.org/intermittent-fasting-cut-crohns-disease-activity-40-and-halved-inflammation-randomized-clinical
>>535223228>Of course I'm going to appeal to authority in regards to medical shitLiteral retard
>>535224610>You need to find a poop donor.I will donate poop to anyone who wants it.
what condition do you have if your stomach starts churning after you eat a meal and you feel like you're going to explosively shit yourself
>>535224610anon will think this is a joke post but it is notchrons is a microbiome disease and not a parasitic one, you basically want to eat the gut bacteria from a healthy person
>>535224787No. Why would I do that? Like I get your post now, I was just letting you know you could've worded it better. Im just waiting for the rain to stop to walk to my buddies to play cards, thats the only reason I keep posting now
>>535224940Gas, excessive spice, or food poisoning.Or all of the above.
>>535224940did you had a gastric bypass or intestine resection?
>>535219853You people are fucking delusional
>>535219760also if you use cannabis give it a 2 month break and see if your symptoms improve. it took me many years to figure out the weed was making it worse
>>535225064no
>>535219760if u have a mild case, then try certain diets, they may helpmoderate or severe cases will kill u brutally if left untreatedt.crohn's haver for over 20 years
>>535219760Post fridge right fucking now
>>535219760Got diagnosed with it about 15 years ago, docs started to put monthly 10k€ worth of medicine (infliximab, for free of course) in my veins, which had really unpleasant effects.After a year I told them to go fuck themselves, stopped all treatment, and it stayed dormant ever since.
>>535221515>biologic, the self injected one because i can't be assed to drive down to a hospital every month to have it done by nursesyeah..same
>>535219760Some surprisingly good recommendations in here. My two cents would be to try a high quality colostrum, 20-30 minutes before dinner on an empty stomach. Also definitely gonna have to cut out gluten unfortunately since we’re in the US, our gluten is so fucked up. You can fix this though, unfortunately it’s just not a one size fits all solution for everybody. It seems like cutting gluten is the closest to a one size fits all though… Honestly might not be a bad idea to go carnivore for 4-6 weeks just to do sort of a reset — or even just a 72 hour fast if you prefer. Don’t go carnivore forever though, you’ll feel like shit and your testosterone will tank if you do it long term. Make sure you include eggs on carnivore.
>>535225496Oh also never ever ever ever let them take your colon out, it will ruin your fucking life and does nothing to help, you will just be shitting yourself forever and unable to produce fucking serotonin. They know this and do it anyway because they get paid like $10k or whatever. It will in no way improve your situation. These people are actual fucking psychopaths who would perform bottom surgeries on minors for $10k.
>>535224940maybe try betaine hydrochlroide at the start of your meals and see if that helps, but you might also be eating absolute garbage that your body has no idea what to do with
>>535224958Parasites are part of the microbiome and the cause for many ailments that get attributed to bacteria or viruses that the parasites carry and spread around. The pharmaceutical industry is based on treating the bacterial and viral infections instead of curing the issue by treating the parasites that spread, harbor, and protect them.
>>535224418you should try taking the GI Map test bro
It takes like 10 days to try elimination & low carb diet of meat and eggs to notice you suddenly don't have to shit +5x a day and aren't bloated all the time farting. But I can imagine almost no doctor would suggest that.Not sure what would be the low/no carb diet for a vegan because that's a paradox basically. The best I can give is do vegetarian and eat eggs and cheese which is still no meat. The carbs are with the plants so tough job.Note the point is that after you eliminate carbs you try adding stuff back and see what doesn't work. For many people it's gluten so eating rice, potato, oats, corn etc gives them no bloat.
>>535225615>Oh also never ever ever ever let them take your colon out, it will ruin your fucking life and does nothing to helpyeah, i had an ileostomy for over a yearcould barely sleepdon't know what the point wasi already have symptoms againbiologic is helping some, but not completelyi just accept i'll need surgery forever and life is shit
>>535226582sorry bro… wish I had good advice for what to do at that stage, but I’m certain there is some out there. i would for sure still do all the normal self help stuff, keep your testosterone up, eat clean, lift weights. god loves you bro. try to be grateful for what you do have and find your purpose.
>>535225094lol. What would you suggest to resolve the inflammation?
>>535219760I remember some years back people were talking about a diet that eliminated a lot of foods and involved drinking a lot of keffir, and it helped people with their Crohns. I don't remember what it's called unfortunately.
>>535219760Look up lone Star tickDoctor fauci might of gotten your dumb ass already
>>535219760Make sure you get tested for parasites and worms.
>>535219853Facts
>>535219760Well you have to stop the sodomy immediately
>>535226903yeah, i've tried about everythingit takes so long, it's impossible to tell what helps haven't been able to get any energy since the last surgerybut i still force myself to do some quick weight lifting every daywe're all going to die eventually, so whatever
>>535221112I’ve cut out nightshades before. It felt good. I also eat a lot of onions and garlics and high fat foods. Beets, sweet potatoes and avocado are among my favorite.
>>535221223I would I avoid grains and go with sweet potatoes or other veggies.
>>535219760Start by restricting your diet. I would fully write off dairy even without any disease
>>535221112>, having death shitsWhat is this?
>>535219853>Carnivore diet reverses it.you have no idea if that's true
>>535221487Your first comment said that tobacco causes parasites which is counter to everything I’ve seen on here. So explain that
>>535221611Aspartame is poison
>>535219760Do NOT take the steroids they prescribe for it.They make you aggressive, increase your risk of colon cancer, and can fuck up your dong.If you want to actually manage it, go with the recommended diets for it. Get it right and you'll feel normal again.
>>535220213>The idea of turning off my immune system as a solution is insaneit somehwat is.there is plenty of stuff out there for reducing inflamation in general and the gut in particular which is very relevant in a post covid world.eat the good stuff to reward the good bacteria EXCLUSIVELY(NO GOY SLOP AT ALL) to improve your chances of success.
>>535219894>>535224610>>535224958What a shitty situation.
>>535221647Socialized medicine wouldn’t fix this problem. Healthcare companies have already taken over the regulatory bodies. The system has to totally collapse and in the meantime we seek alternative cures.
>>535219983It has something to do with relaxing the muscles down there too much
>>535220104>>535220213>>535220739>>535221423Let's see the diagnosis and lab report, timestamped or it's another breakroom attention whore thread since he's spamming up the board I suspect so.
>>535219760Eat lots of seeds nuts and dairy. Also fried fatty food is good as well.Then die from chrons disease like the fucking retarded moronic idiot that you are. You'll be doing the world a favour. I bet you're the type of retard that believed Trump when he said injecting bleach would cure corona. You fucking retard
>>535219998your brain is 60% fat. fun fact: crones disease and IBS don't exist where crops aren't sprayed with roundup weedkiller but the fat cats in Washington don't want you to know this.
>>535224940You’re overeating
>>535219760Check out Joe Dispenza on youtube, he has a fuck ton of testimonies from people suffering from various conditions where doctors told them they were totally fucked but they managed to recover. Alot of the stuff is free on youtube and internet if you know what to look for so you dont necessarily even have to spend a cent.
>>535219760Auburn's kicker had this and still came back to have a good season. You can do it, anon.
>>535219894Reminder Jordan Peterson in Canada had a "fecal transplant" from an Indian surgeon
>>535221897https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHVXJpDBcmU
Check out Dr Berg. https://www.drberg.com/blog/the-most-common-nutrient-deficiency-in-ibd-inflammatory-bowel-disease?nab=0
and Tom Cowan. https://drtomcowan.com/blogs/the-new-biology-learning-center/review-of-chapter-3-new-biology-principles-q-a-9-10-25
>>535219760Don't take meds. I have it and get along well without them. It runs in my Swedish family and may be the result of modern diets.Go low fodmap now. Get below 10% body fat and stay there. I also lift weights but it might not be necessary. If you don't get your body fat down you'll develop related health problems so do it now. Then after you've recovered and have no symptoms you can eat anything you want as long as you stay below ten percent bf.
>>535221121I have chewed nicotine gum for years and I will caution that it contains a lot of microplastics, so don't let it spiral out of control. Lozenges are cleaner as far as that goes. 2 mg fruit flavored Equate from Walmart is the gentlest as far as flavors go, get the $47 box for the most bang for your buck.
>>535221743I fixed an imbalanced hip and now I have skinny turds all the time.
>>535223228https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgEooToozbHfN6oKbHxu2-W6d9zOm7WWvthis playlist is an actual md who has a plethora of hour long slideshows that prove doctors do exactly what you say they don't do.you have zero idea, "it must be that way because that's how it is in my head". there are countless procedures and treatments that are not only unhelpful, but downright dangerous. he has treated thousands of people via diet for decades, and sadly passed away recently. if you watch the videos, you can see that he has meticulous footnotes and explanations for his stances. invaluable, and may save your life or the life of a family member. healthcare in canada is still for-profit, it's just that we have a single payer. doctors are like mechanics, they bill piecework. if they can tack on unnecessary work and get away with it, they will. you also forget that doctors were taking outright bribes during covid to write it as the cause of death on the death certificates. we're talking tens of thousands per patient. and the amounts were higher in less populated places, like alaska and hawaii. also, doctors take bribes from drug companies all the time, and it isn't illegal or even unethical according to their rules.https://globalnews.ca/news/2658129/would-you-want-to-know-if-your-doctor-got-money-from-pharma-companies/this is back from 2016, it only got worse
Start eating food from Trader Joe's (unironically). Selenium, Zinc and Vitamin D to lower autoimmune antibody levels.No enriched flour and no folic acid.Sauce: I have autoimmune bullshit. Diet reverses most of it. Tell the doctor to fuck off. They don't know anything about it.
>>535220020Retard.
>>535220559This guy understands!
What causes burping like 90 minutes after a meal? And I mean constant retard burps.
>>535219760>Any anons have experience avoiding pharmajew immunomodulators?I'm sorry anon, you just have to deal with not eating a lot of shit any more
>>535220150Based and ifykyk pilled. Also requires basic elimination of yeast. You have to give your body time to not only eliminate the parasites and toxins but to rebuild your genetics. Man I miss CDF general.
>>535220308They weren't kidding 2000 years ago about unleavened bread.
>>535222989You taking steroids now that you know? How do you feel now?
>>535219760Stop having anal sex faggot
>>535220398Little known fact: a cornerstone to the Hippocratic oath in its modern form is what is called adherence to the standards of practice. In simple terms, doctors are legally required to implement the methods of treatment approved by our very same occupied government. So no, anyone that relies on sustenance from those trying to erase my people is not someone I would trust. And if that's not illustrative enough just look at abortion and gender transition doctors.
>>535228016>Do NOT take the steroids they prescribe for it.they gave me that when i was young80mg many timesand it's fucked up my adrenal gland
>>535224610Wouldn't ivermectin work then
>>535219853tpbp
>>535221647I didn't choose this jsyk
>>535231764Venison beside beef?
>>535219760covid vaxx because it is 100% safe and effective
>>535222547Keke it's like taking your car to the dealer and asking them to put chrome headers on it.
>>535231886Beef(grass fed) vs beef("conventional").
>>535231764>>535232068The on on right just looks like pork or pork-beef mix, at least that was my first view of it.
>>535231684It causes the parasites to burrow deeper. It helps in the short term though but it does not eliminate the issue. Crohns is caused by parasites burrowing into the colon creating small pockets where bactria and parasites eat away causing the degradation and resulting inflamation. An intense juice only diet for ideally 40 days in a clean environment like a desert plus antiparasitics would be a minimum if you're trying to eliminate parasites all together. It's doable but it is rough.
>>535219760eat like a monk for year idk, image looks to me that you're fat op
>>535223986You have to do a cold extract on the plants, stock and all, and make sure that they are free from pesticides and heavy metals; they will be severely concentrated. Then through a process of basic centrifuge you can create a tonic that does not get you high but delivers atp directly to your cells. Heard of cases of cancer and crohns being cured this way. Takes complete dedication, constant massive doses and not many people can make it. But if ur dying why not.
>>535219760I had it as a hereditary mutation too, tried everything from steroids to dietary changes and nothing really helped. Ended up getting a foot of intestine removed and had to shit in a bag for 18 months but been pretty much symptomless for 7 years now and i eat whatever
>>535221897The antibiotics kill the the bacteria that is outside of the parasite. The symptoms persist because the parasite protects the bacteria from the antibiotics. However, the antibiotics allows the antibodies to overcome the continual bacteria exposure after the antibiotics are ceased.
>>535219760Anyone in this thread claiming to have Crohn's got it because they did too much butt stuff with unclean fists and whatnot
What’s up with the autistic urge to “give them all the information they need to figure it out,” but then refuse to simply explain what they want to say clearly and concisely, and then triple down and belittle everyone who doesn’t get it, while unaware that the everyone else just thinks they’re retarded?
>>535232397>I had it as a hereditary mutation too, tried everything from steroids to dietary changes and nothing really helped. Ended up getting a foot of intestine removed and had to shit in a bag for 18 months but been pretty much symptomless for 7 years nowsame, except my symptoms came back instantlyso i'm kind of obsessed with death n shit, lots of liquidy shit
>>535222342>cutting dairyKek fucking brownoids suck
>>535222342>cutting dairy>memeflagI know what you are
>>535232502always happenseverybody is an expert, but gives half-assed advisereality is, it's an extremely tricky disease and what works for someone often doesn't work for the next person
>>535232430I believe way more people have parasites than they should, I believe there is a conspiracy against treating them and doctors just don't seem to want to test for them. But that doesn't mean everything is parasites. Bacteria can infect you without the need for a protist or flatworm. A lot of protists like to eat bacteria by the way. Bacteria are like fauna to them. They don't generally harbor live bacteria. They digest them.
>>535232502That is a jew technique. It's a way to insert confusion into the information available.
>>535219760Do you poop from your mouth now? Is that what chron's disease is?
>>535232502I used to do something similar growing up, before I learned how to be likable. Basically insert the point I was really trying to make as an assumption in my logic and try to bait people into pointing out that that assumption was required in order for my logic to hold, so I could respond by acting like the assumption was obvious. But they usually just didn’t get it and I got pissed off.
>>535219760Honestly probably caused by glysophate and genetically modified bullshit.I 'cured' mine by going on an Asian diet.
>>535221140Ngl pretty faggy thing to say, you dumb gay faggot.
https://youtu.be/nuhzXEZbOtE
>>535219760I have different immune issue but for me omega 3, b vitamins and d3 vitamin helps. Also I dont eat gluten, potatoes and dont drink alcohol because it worsens my condition. Chrone is the worse kind of shit you can get. Better get used to the fact you will live for like 15 more years.Also read a a cushing syndrome because meds will 100% give you that in a year.
>>535233982>Better get used to the fact you will live for like 15 more years.and they aren't years worth livingi've had it for 25 years and i wish i just died at the start
>>535219760While you should definitely get on medication, an elimination diet will help too. Find what what foods are causing the inflammation in your diet and cut them out.
>>535219760fast you nasty shit, 2 to 5 days consistently. vitamins. k, zinc, glutathione, iron selenium copper
>>535227983>Aspartame is poisont. big sugaraspartame is a panacea
>>535232244What about a diet of only hard liquor or even everclear for a couple weeks?
>>535221611>aspartameWTF ARE YOU DOING?!?!? NO! There be no aspartame, stevia, or sugar substitute of any kind, including HFCS. You wouldn’t be drinking liquid cancer if you knew you were drinking liquid cancer, right? Plus it causes all sorts of nervous system oddities, even mimicking muscular sclerosis at high enough doses, not to mention effectively converting to formaldehyde at temperatures above 85F.But otherwise yes, fatty meat and food stays in the colon longer for processing, which is a big part of why one should avoid or minimize their pork intake.
>>535219760>I’m going to ask a bunch of unemployed retards instead of trusting my doctorHave fun when that shit turns into cancer because you thought you were smarter than a professional
