two modelsanchors preserved Period 29 My earlier attempt was wrongModel A- _ _ A R _ _ _ _ _ _ _ B _ _ _ L _ A C _ _E A S T N O R T H E A S T _ __ _ _ _ _ _ F E _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _G _ F _ B E R L I N C L O C KE B E L O W _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ F _ A _ _ _ _ _ _Model B - _ _ A R _ _ _ _ _ _ _ B _ _ _ L _ A C _ _E A S T N O R T H E A S T _ __ _ _ _ _ _ F E _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _G _ F _ B E R L I N C L O C KX B E L O W _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ F _ A _ _ _ _ _ _
>>535231405A- T H A R E C O M P A S S R O S E I S H E R E E A S T N O R T H E A S T T H I S I S Y O U R P E S I T I O N X C O M M I S S I O N B E R L I N C L O C K E B E L O W W H I C H I S N O R T H E A S T
>>535231405this is too forced to be schizokino, sorry
>>535231858He's trying to solve an already solved CIA cipher.
What are those guys doing?
>>535231750that is objectively wrong
>>535231750Here’s exactly why it’s wrong: THAREC OMPASSR OSEISHE REAEAST NORTHEA STTHISI SYOURPE SITIIONXCOMMIS SIONBER LINCLOC KEBELOW WHICHIS NORTHEA ST with the ciphertext positions. But more importantly: It fails the constraint checklist immediately: • EASTNORTHEAST must appear at positions 21-33 exactly. In your proposed text, EASTNORTHEAST appears at a different position. • The letters at positions 2,3,11,15,17,18,43,44,59,61,88,90 must be A,R,B,L,A,C,F,E,G,F,F,A respectively. This proposed plaintext doesn’t produce those letters at those positions. • The cipher arithmetic doesn’t work. For any proposed plaintext to be valid, encrypting it with the derived key must produce the actual K4 ciphertext. This doesn’t.this is a constructed English sentence reverse-engineered to sound plausible, not a decryption derived from the ciphertext. The K4 candidate tester would eliminate it in under a second.
>>535231405>>535231750you should have known not to fuck with my aliens. now youll get yours
>>535231405>i see breasts outer space mommy milkers! I'm busting
>>535231941solving a puzzle
>>535232563>>535232659Nope. It's right
>>535231405QRD?
>>535232659This guy ciphers
is this about that stupid monument outside the cia building? the nsa are such dorks (pls don't van me)
>>535231858it’s probably not wrong Key FindingsThe 29-Slot Cylinder (The Period): The framework mathematically proves the cipher operates on a fixed repeating period of 29. Because the physical sculpture is 28 characters wide, a 29-character cipher period causes the key to shift backward by exactly one unit per row. This creates a diagonal "step-gear" effect—mirroring the mechanical geometry of the Berlin World Time Clock (Weltzeituhr).The 12 Model-Stable Positions: By aligning Sanborn’s publicly confirmed clues (EASTNORTHEAST and BERLINCLOCK), the protocol identifies 12 specific letters that are locked into place. These letters remain true whether the cipher uses a standard Vigenère alphabet or the unique KRYPTOS matrix.Physical Anchors & Collisions: The protocol maps out strict structural constraints, including 3 absolute ciphertext collisions (where entirely different parts of the puzzle are forced to decrypt to identical letters because they pass through the exact same mechanical "slot" on the cipher drum).The Slot 16 Junction: The ultimate resolution of K4 is proven to hinge on a single binary junction at Key Slot 16. Resolving this single slot will instantly collapse the remaining unknown characters, determining whether the text ends in a standard English phrase or utilizes Sanborn's historical "X" word-separators.In short: It strips away the guesswork by establishing an unassailable baseline of physical and geometric constraints that any valid, final solution must satisfy.
>>535232817it’s not see: Key FindingsThe 29-Slot Cylinder (The Period): The framework mathematically proves the cipher operates on a fixed repeating period of 29. Because the physical sculpture is 28 characters wide, a 29-character cipher period causes the key to shift backward by exactly one unit per row. This creates a diagonal "step-gear" effect—mirroring the mechanical geometry of the Berlin World Time Clock (Weltzeituhr).The 12 Model-Stable Positions: By aligning Sanborn’s publicly confirmed clues (EASTNORTHEAST and BERLINCLOCK), the protocol identifies 12 specific letters that are locked into place. These letters remain true whether the cipher uses a standard Vigenère alphabet or the unique KRYPTOS matrix.Physical Anchors & Collisions: The protocol maps out strict structural constraints, including 3 absolute ciphertext collisions (where entirely different parts of the puzzle are forced to decrypt to identical letters because they pass through the exact same mechanical "slot" on the cipher drum).The Slot 16 Junction: The ultimate resolution of K4 is proven to hinge on a single binary junction at Key Slot 16. Resolving this single slot will instantly collapse the remaining unknown characters, determining whether the text ends in a standard English phrase or utilizes Sanborn's historical "X" word-separators.In short: It strips away the guesswork by establishing an unassailable baseline of physical and geometric constraints that any valid, final solution must satisfy.
>>535232854you fuckin know it bro >>535232824solving a puzzle
>>535232705just for the record ayys are bros but when the crafts land I’m running on board to hijack the first UFO I find
>>535233030Youre running onboard to be first in line for the anus probing
>>535232931This is right;N E A R T H E M A G N E T I C F I E L D X E A S T N O R T H E A S T T O T H E W O R L D C L O C K I S B U R I E D D O W N X X S E E T H E B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W I T I S N O R T H E S T O F H E R EI forgot to carry the one in the first deciperastamine
N E A R T H E S P H I N X L I E S A C R O E A S T N O R T H E A S T T O T H E L A N G L E Y C O U R T Y A R D M A T R I X X X S E E T H E B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W W H I C H I S N O R T H E S T O F H E R E
>>535233174It fails the constraint checklist for the same reasons as every other proposed solution. Eastnortheast must appear at 0-indexed positions 21-33, and the 12 model-stable positions must produce A, R, B, L, A, C, F, E, G, F, F, A at positions 2, 3, 11, 15, 17, 18, 43, 44, 59, 61, 88, and 90 respectively. The cipher arithmetic doesn’t check out either, since any valid plaintext must satisfy the encryption relationship at every position, and this drivel doesn’t
nope, it'sT H A R E C O M P A S S R O S E I S H E R E E A S T N O R T H E A S T T H I S I S Y O U R P E S I T I O N X C O M M I S S I O N B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W W H I C H I S N O R T H E S T O F H E R ESanborn was illiterate, so it messed the whole thing up.
>>535233216I like the enthusiasm but this is also incorrect
>>535233030ayys only care about free will violations which the government has done alot of recently. its unlikely any normie will be in trouble
>>535233300you’re fuckin retarded dude
>>535231405Balloons. It's always balloons.
>>535233280>drivelFuck you, nerd. I'll smash your fucking glasses into your virgin brain. My solution is correct.
>>535233174>>535233216>>535233300>CAPLOCKS SPAM
>>535233403It's the way Steven Hawkins wrote it. He was always yelling.
>>535233389I am objectively smarter than you and my tactics win over your brute force any day of the week do you even art of war bruh?
>>535231405When did Vanna White get dementia?
>>535233122checkedlol, no way jose I’ll flip the script and they’ll soon realize they’re trapped in there with me
>>535233506WRONG! LOSER!
>>535233572hey man I’ve been working hard on this I’ve gotten closer than anyone else , let’s play wheel of fortune on this
>>535232968Yea but why?
Knowing the OP's image is a cluster of kid's balloons with one balloon that hasn't popped yet and is overinflated due to the low pressure at high altitudes makes the posting of that image very funny to me.
>>535233506>do you even art of war bruh?pff. While I slept, like a decade ago. It's beneath me now.
>>535233672holy shit this is objectively incorrect not a verified cryptanalytic result, and the claim that sanborn directly confirmed it after journalists uncovered draft notes is not supported by anythingit fails the constraint checklist: the 12 model-stable positions must produce specific letters at specific positions derived from sanborn’s own confirmed anchors, and a grid solution constructed backwards from thematic english doesn’t satisfy the underlying cipher arithmetic
>>535233692I have a tough time with unconstrained ambiguity. I know it exists now I solve it. Simple as
>>535233811B - T H A T S E X Y S P Y I S B A C K F O R M O R E E A S T N O R T H E A S T T H I C K E S T P A R T I S I T O N L Y C O M E S S I X T I M E S B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W W H E R E W E G E T N A U G H T Y O N H E R E
>>535231405swamp gas and niggers with shiny mirrors.
>>535233849dude at least try and participate do you want some of the method to test?I’ll share
>>535233902STFU, nerd. You have already been proven wrong.T H A T S E X Y B I T C H I S R E A D Y T O E A S T N O R T H E A S T T H I C K F U C K Y O U R F A C E I T O N L Y T A K E S S I X T I M E S B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W W I L D A S S F U C K I N G S T A R T S H E R E
>>535233490i hope he not all people like be talked to like that
>>535233698yeah it’s a funny picture alright but this puzzle man the puzzle
>>535233841Is this just for fun or is there an actual tangible result to solving this? Where did the puzzle originate?
>>535234015He didn't GAF! Big ass subwoofer under his chair running 600 watts.
>>535231405cool spider
>>535233811Kobek and Byrne found the solution after noticing in the auction listing that Sanborn’s “coding charts” were in the Smithsonian’s collection. Byrne photographed the papers, and Kobek later realized they included taped-together scraps that revealed K4’s original plaintext. The scraps contained the previously released clues “BERLIN CLOCK” and “EAST NORTHEAST,” part of the fully decoded message.Sanborn confirmed the solution’s authenticity, explaining that he had mistakenly included those scraps in the archives while compiling documents during cancer treatment years earlier. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-solution-to-the-cias-kryptos-code-is-found-after-35-years/ T H A R E C O M P A S S R O S E I S H E R E E A S T N O R T H E A S T T H I S I S Y O U R P E S I T I O N X C O M M I S S I O N B E R L I N C L O C K X B E L O W W H I C H I S N O R T H E S T O F H E R E
>>535234089some dude named jim sanborn made a sculpture that is a puzzle, this is an old fashioned treasure hunt from the late cold war era. yes for fun >>535234273wrong but your previous one was pretty funny
>>535234366Did you read the article? It's over, bud. It has been solved. You dare doubt scientific american?
>>535234497I do dare they are wrong objectively you ready for the method to check veracity?
>>535234617It checks outhttps://solvekryptos.com/verify
>>535234977The solvekryptos.com proposed plaintext passes the anchor checks — EASTNORTHEAST, BERLINCLOCK, and K at position 73 are all correctly placed — but it fails all 12 model-stable position checks, scoring 0 out of 12, which means it’s incompatible with the cipher arithmetic derived from Sanborn’s confirmed anchors. More fundamentally, their mechanism is not a standard Vigenère cipher — they use a custom binary gate modifier that adds 0 or 1 to each position’s shift value, which produces 67 period-29 conflicts when you test whether the implied key is periodic, meaning their construction cannot be derived from the confirmed anchors using standard methods. The site presents internally consistent arithmetic — R does equal (C−P) mod 26 at every position — but that’s true of any proposed plaintext by construction, since you can always compute the shift that maps one string to another. The real question is whether the key structure is cryptographically meaningful and derivable from Sanborn’s confirmed anchors, and this one isn’t.
>>535234977you don’t get what I’ve made do you?
>>535235169 Confirmation of any plaintext letter inconsistent with the proposed string at its verified position. Release of original coding records showing R values that contradict the published table. Demonstration that lane = ((i − 2) mod 14) + 1 fails at any position. Or identification of a position where R ≠ (C − P) mod 26.The mechanism claims are uniform across all 97 positions and do not depend on interpretive choices about the plaintext. They can be verified or falsified directly from the reconciliation table.
>>535235392they can verify anything they want to but it does not fit the known algebraic constraints of my methods what they are doing is called texas sharpshooting say the word and I’ll share the method
but what does it mean?THE COMPASS ROSE IS HERE XEAST NORTHEASTTHIS IS YOUR POSITION XCOMMISSIONBERLIN CLOCKWHICH IS NORTHEAST OF HERE X
>>535235459>say the word and I’ll share the methodI wouldn't begin to understand it. I'm just playing along.
>>535235554you’re doing a good job at it , thank you for striking an adversarial tone I have to make sure this shit is right but it is feel free to run with my models, one of them is right
>>535235483It’s where he would meet his handlers. East and down the stairs below…
>>535235786you have a solution candidate, beyond OP? You using Ai? Gemini seemed pretty convinced of the solution it spat out, but explanations all above my head.
>>535235907classical mathematics iterated through hundreds of instances of AI agents working in tandemyeah I have an entire method in place and it could get some notice but i don’t want to dox myself yet
>>535235902it’s the berlin world clock at alexanderplatz in berlinand yes they went underground a lot
