The Enclosures Act in England is the prime example of when Frederick Engels claimed that the State is the tool of the bourgoise. Rich elite landowners in England basically used the power of the State to forcibly throw peasants off land that they've been farming for hundreds, thousands of years even... and claim it for themselves. They didn't even buy the land, they just took it. The displaced peasants were then at the mercy of industrial capitalists who had almost total control over them.This is not freedom, this isn't liberty, this is theft and exploitation thinly masked by the veneer of institutional legitimacy.
>>535266744Marxism has always been the total destruction of freedom for the people.Just wait what globalism (marxism) will bring to the world in the 2030s.In the rare case that we're still alive then, lets talk again about the benefits of leftism.
>>535267003We don't need to go the far, most leftists realize communism was a mistake and created the same power imbalances that feudalism allowed for.What we're advocating for is a equitable system. We can't pretend that everybody is starting off on the same foot or that systemic barriers for people don't exist. We should push for the State to be a tool of the working class rather than the elites. I'm suggesting state funded education for families that can't afford to send their kids to trades school. The State can actually generate a positive ROI for itself if it trains millions of young people in skilled trades to be plumbers, eletricians, HVAC technicians, etc... so they too can join the wealth class. Taxing the wealthy to finance these programs would be a direct toward redistribution of wealth, and nudge the gini coefficient a bit closer to 0.I'm not saying to look at Soviet Communism, I'm saying to look at Minnesota, or Sweden, Norway, Germany.
>>535266744"Land rights" are merely an agreement with the biggest force in the region.
>>535267284Are you aware that the political elites in this countries are luciferians? They don't want equality and social justice, for them the common people are cattle. They plan to kill most of humanity and then enslave the rest in a "new world order".Here you heared it first.
>>535266744enclosure act came about when fat bastard henry viii separated from the catholic church for a divorce. google “dissolution of the monasteries.” he took the lands from the church (i.e. the prior owner who let the peasants graze livestock there for free), and sold those lands to wealthy persons throughout europe.leftism is a rejection of Our Heavenly Father and The Church. you are team henry viii. leftists are fat. just like henry. leftists steal and sell out to international capital. just like henry. leftists are filled with venereal diseases. just like henry.
>>535267540Their motto is "do what thou wilt" and it's kind of true. I don't need to "buy" land if I can simply take it by force.
>>535267284Let's do a test. You are fine with NatSoc then?Or are you perhaps a non white trying to advocate communism for White countries? So being anti-capitalist, but then doing it in NatSoc way sending all the non white parasites out thats not the correct way right?>State to forcibly throw peasants off land that they've been farming for hundreds, thousands of years even... and claim it for themselvesthats exactly what bolsheviks did in USSR
>>535267284>Taxing the wealthy to finance these programs would be a direct toward redistribution of wealth, and nudge the gini coefficient a bit closer to 0.This is were progressive financial policies fail. Every. Single. Time. The rich will just avoid them like they do now. You could implement an effective 99% tax structure on the wealthiest 1% and still not see a dime of it. The ultra wealthy will simply pay for high end lawyering and just completely side step every single dollar, dime and penny owed. It's what they do now, it's what they've always done and how they are able to never contribute. You don't need to keep introducing more and more, increasingly draconian tax policies, you just need to actually enforce the ones that already exist
>>535267586https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sd1stYQp-c&t=620s
>>535266744The only sensible positions are>Economically centristAdopt economic policies regardless of where they may fall on some political compass.>Politically authoritarianThe State must be able to actualize long term political and civilizational goals. Public works, innovation, and enterprise>Socially RightA Nation with no transcendental or metaphysical identity has no direction, goal, or end. There's no "end" to progressivism, because there is no metaphysical Essence towards which progress is being made. There must be a higher ideal that society works towards and this can only be accomplished with Right wing social policy. The Left and Centers have confused freedom with the freedom from obligation and constraint, rather than the freedom to stand by what is right.Liberty exists to guarantee each person NOT happiness, but liberty from forces which might compel a man to become a monster against his will, it is the Liberty to resist the influences of evil so that the higher aim of the civilizational endeavor is not undermined by degenerate elements which seek to turn it's glory against itself.Any position short of these three is either immature Disney tier "everybody holds hands and sings kumbaya" or borderline anarchism of the flesh, mind or body politic.
>>535267540That's why we fight, I'm aware the epstein class are demonic and we ought to push for equality.>>535267586Someone should have tutored him.>>535267641I know and I condemn USSR, people call it Neo-Sefdom for a reason.Depends what you mean by national socialism. I don't support racial or ethnic genocide, or imperial conquest, or stripping the rights of minorities. I guess if an individual state voted to keep itself demographically static with closed borders that would be fine. >>535267975>This is were progressive financial policies fail. Every. Single. Time. The rich will just avoid them like they do now.They couldn't do it under Obama or Biden.>ou could implement an effective 99% tax structure on the wealthiest 1% and still not see a dime of it. The ultra wealthy will simply pay for high end lawyering and just completely side step every single dollar, dime and penny owed. It's what they do now, it's what they've always done and how they are able to never contribute. This has never once happened, at most they were able to reduce their taxes by ramming through the Bush tax cuts or the Trump JOBS act... they still pay high taxes, just not as much as they used to.
>>535266744>Why I'm an Economic Leftisti dont fucking carekys commie faggot
>>535269023Didn't read
>>535266744That's weird. Because communism is basically just a redo of feudalism. Just with a new set of lord's and ladies controlling the serfs.
>>535269218this isnt your fucking diary memeflaggotgo suck on a loaded gun
>>535269587Reporting you for encouraging suicide, one of the few things illegal under U.S speech law. Enjoy a criminal charge.
>>535266744MEME FLAG FAGGOT GO KYS NOW>MEME FLAG FAGGOT GO KYS NOW
>>535268745>Rich people don't pay tax attorneys to avoid owing as much tax as possible Are you, like, retarded? Any rich person will openly tell you they do this
>>535266744We're all economic leftists here. Lolberts converted or fucked off a while ago. Miggers are pro-welfare but only for jews
>>535270473They do that to reduce their taxes from insanely high levels, they don’t avoid taxes. They bring down their rates from like 50% marginal to 35% marginal. Are you seriously dumb?
>>535268745>I don't support racial or ethnic genocide, or imperial conquest, or stripping the rights of minoritiesThere you go, so you dont support removing browns from White countries.That is exactly why nonwhites like you push against NatSoc and push for communism etc. ideologies because they let you continue stealing from White society and exploiting White laborThat is why you always talk about what policy changes should White countries make, instead of talking about your own brown one. You never go back to India or Somalia or wherever the fuck you're from and push for your communism there.Nope, it has to be in a White country, and you have to be included in it. Therefore any discussion with your is irrelevant because your starting point is already not what is best for the White country but what is something that lets you stay in it
>>535272159Literally every single function of high trust society will be destroyed by browns.I have realized the fact that shitskinned vermin, they only think in terms of consequences.That is what the euphemism about "guilt based cultures" and "shame based cultures" is.That so called "guilt based cultures" for the White man (and to some extent Japanese), we feel guilt for doing the wrong thing so we dont do it even if its not enforced.But browns like you, you dont really even understand what we're talking about. You never evolved guilt nor conscience so you literally cant even get the concept. That is what the brown "shame based cultures" are about they are afraid of consequences of being caught out and their social standing or even liberty being at stake if they do.But if they are able to do something wrong without consequences they dont think twice about doing it, not doing something simply because its wrong doesnt even register for themIts a terrible reality where jews have brainwashed people into thinking that there is "one human race" because it helped the jews push the second part of their propaganda as if non whites belong to White societies because they're "just the same as us".They're not and them not feeling guilt absolutely makes them not belong in trust based societies.
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>>535272159You realize globally exterminating people won't make your life better right?
>>535266744Why insist that killing people who take your stuff is leftist?
>>535272808I'm looking at history through a lens of oppression, class conflict, and push for equality with some systematic redistribution. Isn't that leftist?
>>535266744Simple reminder you will be tortured to death in front of the kids you rape. Back to your CNN comment section, jew.
>>535272611Well only you kikes need to be exterminated because you are parasites that just can't sustain yourselves without exploiting others and you will always look into ways of abusing other people's labor and your never content of a NatSoc system where you'd be limited to using jewish labor alone.But for the other races no extermination is needed, just sending all the invaders back to their own homes. Of course if they dont comply then they will be killed, like any other invader.Its funny though how your jewish mind works when I was talking about removing foreign people from our lands you didnt even think of going home but straight up jumped into exterminationI guess because for a parasite living in your own home with your own people and having no external labor is not an option
OP is either a tard or a tard fed
>>535267284>Minnesota, or Sweden, Norway, Germany.all fucked by third world browns, somalians some of the worst of the worst. White nordic/germanics created the best egalitarian systems the world has ever seen, and jews flooded them with the most subhumans they could find and now these places suck ass.
>>535273357You're dumber than rox.
>>535273412True. There is definitely some jewish planning that went into this. Like how specifically scandinavian areas, scandinavia itself and then minnesota, were targeted by the worst of the worst niggers. Like people dont understand that somalis, they are ethiopids that are mixes of negroid aka the african nigger and australoid which is the pajeet. The same pajeet ancestry that jews and arabas have.Which makes the somali not just violent and anti-social like a nigger, but also scheming and scamming like a pajeet/arab/jew. They are literally the very worst humanity has to offer.So why the fuck our places which one could classify used to be amongst the highest trust and highest ethnic unity places in the entire world, were specifically targeted with the worst of the niggers?If it was just scandinavia they picked of all european countries you could chalk it off as coincidence but then pick minnesota the place that was founded by scandis and is most scandinavian in the US?! that cannot be a coincidence anymoreNot to mention that its quite expensive to get halfway across the world and somalia is the poorest country on earth there is absolutely no way these niggers without a penny in their name get all the way here and then make up their fake asylum stories without getting some helpThe trip alone cost thousands of dollars
>>535273653>You're dumber than rox.This doesn't change the fact your a tard and a fed. Show us your flag, please. I know you won't.
>>535273725Here's some vintage somalis coming by train from Moscow to apply for asylumThe important part is that if the good guys had won WWII the whole UN Refugee Convention of 1951 that was pushed through the UN by jews would have never even existed so the entire mechanism of asylum seeking wouldnt exist, so these somalis coming by a train from USSR without proper documentation would have been jailed for crossing the border illegally and then deportedCrossing a border illegally is a crime but the jewish UN Refugee Convention has a clause that it nullifies this border crime if you say the magic word "asylum"The entire system is designed so nonwhites could slither into other people's countries, preferably White onesJews created this system mainly for themselves but the fact that other nons can also use it to flood White nations is an added bonusWhat needs to be abolished to save the White world from jewish browning and dying of bastardization and corruption>1965 Immigration Act>1951 UN Refugee Convention>1965 UN International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination>1961 UN Convention on the Reduction of StatelessnessEvery single one of these laws is jewish.And the best example how all our supposedly anti immigration govts are just controlled opposition because none of them speak about these laws.With a stroke of pen the asylum seeking could be immediately and permanently stopped, but they pretend that such option doesnt exist
>>535273749>youryou're*
>>535271194You are naive and a meme flag
>>535266744The poor displaced peasants then earned so much money working in the factories that they could drink tea on the regular and as everyone knows, after tea there's rum and full blown alcoholism will follow.Daughters of them could now afford nicer dresses, spoiling them.The light workload children did in farms was replaced by heavy work in the industry.I know all of these are delusional but they come from the same source commies took their stories about oppression of le poor workers(inquiries in the British parliament from like 1823 or something, but often the statements were based on hearsay from 40 years prior). As the British industry was starting, and early on it was the worst, Malthus of all people determined that the lowest paid person in the economy is... a farmhand. The future oriented job of a farmhand was taken away from the people and it was replaced with better paid factory job. How horrible.
>>535274257This is true if somebody voluntarily leaves their farm for a higher wage in factories, then they can bargain higher wages.But if somebody is forced off their land, and forced into a factory situation, there's no guarantee their wage will be higher.>The future oriented job of a farmhand was taken away from the people and it was replaced with better paid factory job. Ah yes that's why they had to be forced into it, sure.
Pic related>me being leftist with my leftist friends
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>>535270473the crux of the problem is that democracy demands that all power is sold to the highest bidder. this always results in the rich running everything for themselves, and owning everything. take, for instance, finance guru richard kiyosaki. he is a billionaire and pays no tax. he also uses borrowed money to finance all of his acquisitions, mainly apartment buildings. so he simply makes repairs/renos on all of his units to the same amount he would pay in taxes, which are tax deductible. but it gets better. his strategy of borrowing to have already existing goods change hands is the chief cause of inflation. this is because the money supply grows, while real goods and services remain unchanged. over 95% of the money in the economy is created out of thin air by private banks, NOT the government. this is not an accident. the rich have a massive and disproportionate role in how everything in society is shaped, usually according to decades-old plans that take generations to fully take fruit. i would go so far as to say that feudalism is way better than whatever this shithole arrangement is. politically, you are caught between a pro-industry power bloc (republicans) vs a wall st finance bloc (democrats). these are 2 groups of uber capitalists. the democrats have done a great job of abandoning the working class and making communism/socialism radioactive by having all of the proponents be retarded perverts and race-baiters.until there is a fundamental change in how power is structured, the problems will continue.
>>535275610That's the type of leftism that I can get behind!Its also the exact kind that the parasitic jew right here >>535275465 despises and shills against.Because as already mentioned >>535273225, the jew will never consider an option where he has to make do with his own labor. As >>535269221 correctly pointed out>communism is basically just a redo of feudalism. Just with a new set of lord's and ladies controlling the serfs.This is exactly what jews want. What they did in Russia for example. Overthrow the Tsar and give the power to the jewish communist party. Replace your own rulers with jewish ones.But where you remove foreign people and foreign power completely and have the people rule, have your labor benefit only your kin and nobody else, have no "international financier" to exploit you, that is national socialism, well the jew of course won't have that.Because to live as a jew, is to exploit.
>>535267003>globalism (marxism)omg there's no way you're this stupid
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>>535275465Why can't you voluntarily leave to your own country and never worry about what White countries do though?What do you care what economic systems White countries use?Why do you commies exclusively push for communism to White countries you don't belong in?Why aren't you going back home to your own country and pushing for communism there?Why are you against NatSoc? That stops exploitation and limits every race to exactly what their own kin is able to produce. Nobody exploiting the labor of anyone else.
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>>535276150full bookhttps://files.libcom.org/files/2022-05/The%20Invention%20of%20Capitalism.pdf
>>535276070He is exactly correct. Marxists won WWII thats why we live in such multicultural jewish clownworld today. If you think bunch of pakis would be running around raping little English girls in the Reich you're fucking retarded.Marxism can thrive in both capitalism and communism. As we have seen in the current world. NatSoc the antidote kills marxism, it kills globalism. That is why it needs to be demonized.
>>535266744You realize the Vietnam, Cambodia, Soviets, Laos and Chairman Mao did the exact same thing right? Straight up took farmland from small families who operated them for generation and had them purged (executed) if they kvetched.Ukraine is a good example as Stalin said farmers weren't even allowed to keep food for themselves it all had to go to the state and you got rations.This is what leftism is all about: stealing from you and making everyone equally poor
>>535276449He is a jew of course he realizes but his entire goal is to try to sell you a system where he should be a part of a White country and not sent home.Basically capitalism has been turbocharged so far everything is getting so kiked that people are getting mad.The most important chart ultimately is pic rel. For the longest time it was accepted that shareholder kike parasites steal a big portion of the income as long as the workers felt they also got enough.But the kikes got more and more greedy and now the shareholders take too big piece of the pie while workers get less, not to mention while ALSO importing infinity shitskins further decreasing wages while increasing cost-of-living from food to fuel to housing.So the jew already sees that there might be a change around the corner so he needs to sell you another jewish system because he knows that if Whites went into a non-jewish system like NatSoc, the jews would get expelled and this time they would never come back as once you use a non-jewish system you would never voluntarily stop using it unless you are destroyed in an event like WWII and forced to change it back.The problem is you cant just pull a new WWII anymore like not one where Whites would be fooled to fight other Whites for jews.The only way jews could make it happen is use browns against Whites but as it stands browns would lose in any fight in any case.The only maybe they have in their pocket is if they manage to turn USA majority brown and then make the US army brown where they would still have all the White tech left over and there is a window of time where it would still be useful in brown hands before it all falls into disrepair africa style
>>535266744>that image Is why drugs and alcohol became popular.
>>535266744>Why I'm an Economic Leftistnobody cares, fuck off to India -- which is and has been a leftist paradise for the past thousands of years, including matriarchy and rampant homosexuality
>>535277137those are for sheep and cows and chicken you idiot... don't encourage OP's shit-tier fantasies
>>535267284>The State can actually generate a positive ROI for itself if it trains millions of young people in skilled trades to be plumbers, eletricians, HVAC technicians, etc... so they too can join the wealth class.What about all the people who are too stupid to become these things? Fuck them, or what? The problem with socialism, is that they never have the balls to admit that they don't have an answer as for what to do with the stupid people. They are all like "we need to educate ourselves and become mini nobles! That's how we'll get more money!" But what all the people too stupid to get an education and "become" someone?
>>535277052Look at the scale of the Y axis.>>535277377move to somalia if you don't like economic leftism, you moron.>>535278521>What about all the people who are too stupid to become these things? Fuck them, or what? The problem with socialism, is that they never have the balls to admit that they don't have an answer as for what to do with the stupid people. They are all like "we need to educate ourselves and become mini nobles! That's how we'll get more money!" But what all the people too stupid to get an education and "become" someone?There's manual labor jobs, there's janitorial positions, there's military infantrymen, there's lots of jobs like that.If you're too incompetent for those positions then you just die.
>>535266744>bourgoiseMarxism is a Jewish scam to asset strip the middle class and transfer their wealth into the hands of the Jews..bourgeoisbelonging to or typical of the middle class (= a social group between the rich and the poor) especially in supporting existing customs and values, or in having a strong interest in money and possessions:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bourgeois
>>535266744>Why I'm an Economic Leftist
