Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard work?
>>535269112Communism would send your retarded faggot ass to a gulag.
>>535269422>muh both sides are bad!yes, that's why we're unhappy...
>>535269112You know what system rewards skill and intelligence? National Socialism.
I mean neurosurgeons, engineers, scientists, artists, writers are pretty rich, cleaners aren't because anyone can do it, if you talk about billionaires then they're the class governing people, not really one specific job
>>535269112Retarded faggot leftists think they're criticizing capitalism when they're really criticizing judaism.
>>535269112Capitalism rewards luck and timing
>>535269422Who mentioned communism. Seriously man, think a little bit about your answer to this post. It's a post pointing out the (obviously true) fact that incentives in our society right now are outdated and your response is to attack something that doesn't even exist anymore(the soviet union-style of communism).Like idk man, don't you think it's a good thing to at least keep an open mind and accept that good ideas can be found anywhere, as can bad ideias an simply try to create the best possible society. Like what are you gaining from literally refusing to think beyond capitalism?I'm not a communist at all btw.
>>535269112>whybecause capitalism rewards the MANAGERS of all those creative types who outside their narrow niche of expertise are usually total retards
>>535269112These types of people are really more upset about globalism, franchizing, and de-industrialization than they are Capitalism. All of those things are rewarded under Capitalism, its just that industry and small business has been wiped out and replaced by a few asset managers seeding franchizes around the country which outsource most of their labor to slaves.>inb4 Globalism and de-industrialization are the natural end-state of Capitalism and the “ceo-class”Kinda, but they dont have to be. The problem is people like this will never identify the problem as “Globalism” because they are Globalists, they believe in open borders, hate nationalism (except for third world countries), hate workers (except ones that are illegal), love outsourced labor.
>>535269112Cause it's about exploiting or capturing unrealized value. It's like magots eating a copse or being used to eat dead flesh of a wound. It's all about contracts in the end.
>>535269112>neurosurgens, engineers and scientistsAll those make mad bank. Musk, Zuckerberg, Gates, etc, may not be good people but they aren’t stupid.>artists, writers and creatorsA shitload of the top 1% fall in this category. Many of them talentless hacks.>cleaners, laborersMight have a point there except many physically demanding jobs also pay well. Oil rig workers make serious cash due to how insanely dangerous and difficult their job is.>service workersAh, there it is. Bitching that a barista or a HR monkey isn’t getting paid the same as someone doing actual work. The audacity to put this shit in the same category as people doing physical labor is frankly shocking.
>>535269112The fallacy is deciding which skills and talents get rewarded more. Networking is a skill, communication is a skill, politicing is a skill. Not all skills are rewarded equally and combinations of skills matter.
>>535269112People are retarded and don't understand what capitalism actually is.
>>535269422>muh commies>When confronted with something he cannot understand boomer mumbles "muh commies" or "muh gulag muthafuka"
>>535269112Capitalism is Feudalism without the heredity and religion.So capitalism is progress, but it needs further progress towards Socialism. And then Communism.
capitalism doesn't reward the great. it rewards people who understand money and are cunning and ruthless enough to exploit the capitalist system to essentially legalize theft. trump tariffs for example was just one big con job. billionaire trump "legally" reached into your pockets, took 300 bil and gave it to his friends
>>535269112>Capitalism is when the government steals half the profits of the nation to pay foreigners to eat.
>>535270956its jews
>>535269112its fundamentally not meritocratic.
>>535269112its not because money is fake and printed by jewsdebt ruined economy for short term gains
>>535269112It does reward skill. It's just that this person's idea of "skill" is incomplete.
>>535269112wait...... just 1 post by this id?? can someone explain??!
>>535269855There are two options. More government control of trade interactionsAnd less government control of trade interactions. Having more or having less of something is a binary.Over the last 150 years, government control over trade interactions has been sharply INCREASING every decade, not decreasing.Is your solution more government control over trade interactions, or less?
>>535271008>No you can't just cite the automatic effects of my philosophy when put into practice noo
it rewards people that organize well functioning enterprises where those people with skill, intelligence and talent can work hard and solve correct problemsit's the difference between one engineer designing something small and organizing a company that can design something bigchoosing where to make initial investment, managing people and be the person responsible for their jobs to exist is hardcommies are literally retarded
>>535269112You dont need to be the richest to live a comfortable life, the idea that capitalism is made to make everybody rich is retarded. Sage.
>>535269112Top surgeons make millions per year.Top musicians make tens of millions.Cleaners laborers and service workers are too abundant to draw big money.So, I mean, the post is retarded.
I do not understand this retarded post. All of these are rewarded under capitalism, just to varying degrees. Neurosurgeons can't really upscale their output, engineers are always in demand and often times highly paid, scientists heavily rely on funding from other people for their work. Like what the fuck does this retard think? Unless you are the CEO of a giant company capitalism has failed you?
>>535269112> jews printing money for consumption> capitalismthis retarded faggot shit again. kys
>>535270846The people those engineers work for make much more than all the combined engineers in the said company. Same goes for artists, cleaners, laborers, etc.That's the issue I have as well with capitalism. It's exploitation at its finest, it's slavery but with a modern twist.Maybe the most rewarded skill in capitalism is the ability to exploit people. If you possess that, you get filthy rich!
>>535270922Being a sociopath is not a skill the only thing a CEO deserves is a trip to the firing squad
>>535269112What matters is VIRTUE. This is why we need a return to a theocracy. Skills and intelligence and can’t be measured. Muh IQ test? Doesn’t matter if you are 200 IQ but a sociopath.
>>535269112Because capitalism is a fancy term for globohomo communism
>>535269998This is also why the only communist countries left -China, Vietnam, North Korea, and Belarus-are also nationalistic .
>>535269112I’m starting to want communism to take over. Just so all you fags die on the wall
>>535269112We live under judeocapitalism, Anon. The rewards are given to anything that advances Jewish interests, just look at the US government.
>>535269422Literally no one mentioned communism schizo
>>535269112Anti-capitalists vs. Peter Schiff. Guess who kicks ass.>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGoB01qiA
>>535269112Because jews.
>>535269112>neurosurgeons, engineers, scientists>most intelligentI can confirm this is not accurate. I have known multiple scientists personally (PhDs in biosciences, work for big pharma companies, did research, etc.). They're very knowledgeable about their specific field (or their very specific subset of their field), but are borderline idiots about anything else, and lack basic common sense. Idk about engineers or surgeons, but I suspect its a similar situation. >artists, writers, and creators>talentedI've seen what passes for (((art))) now. Talent isn't involved.>hard work>cleaners, laborers, and service workersLmao, I can tell this fag has never had to work with these people.
>>535269112engineers and doctors are actually some of the highest upward mobility professions, unlike business people who often have to be born into rich families to then get slightly more rich (although it's fucking obnoxious when they write self-improvement books crediting their individual excellence for it)and yeah the overall social mobility is limited but that's every society ever createdthe now "capitalist" eastern europe still has garrndkids of commie party apparatchiks living with some amount of inherited privilege and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the capital's fault(also rewarding talent would be as unjust as rewarding being born rich, if we go by talent defined as special gifts you're born with. tbbqh I never got people who believe talent is innate AND should be rewarded, that just sounds awful, like you believe life SHOULD be a lottery)
>>535269112It's not the fault of capitalism, it's the fault of your country's politicians.
>>535269112>Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard work?
>>535269112hard work is relativeimagine you're king of a big city in 3000 BC. who do you reward more, the big strong chads guarding the city gate, or the little incel faggot who can count all the gold?
>>535269112Cleaning isn’t t hard work, in fact it’s basic duty around the house. Only a stupid nigger claims cleaning is hard work.
>>535269509National socialism is an enemy of the jew.
>>535269112it rewards psychopathy
>>535269112How do I a labourer benefit from state taking my mom's inheritance away when she die?
>>535269112It rewards value, which is determined by supply and demand.Sorry you and your fellow comrades missed Economics 101 class.
>>535269112The people this retard lists are well paid.
>>535269112Capitalism doesn't "reward" anyone because it's not a top down dictated system. Whoever provides value can earn more money.
>>535272256/thread>>535269509Ya, that's why they killed or exiled over 1,500 of their physicists, mathematicians chemists and physiologists.
>>535269112why would doctors ever be rich ? they dont do shit. we pay 1/5th of our lives to doctors and get nothing.what will a doctor do ? prolongue my life from 75 to 80 ? thanks man i cant even get my dick up, let me ride in valhalla with the blood of my enemies on my hands.
>>535269112Cleaners wouldn't even make the list of hard workers. It would be ditch diggers, construction laborers, box loaders for shipping companies, Lumberjacks, home Insulation installers, farm workers. Cleaning doesnt cripple people after years of work, physically demanding labor does. They throw in cleaners to make it seem like women work just as hard as the hardest workers and its not the case.
why do niggers respond in earnest to a faggot commie reposting a tweet?sage niggers, sage
>>535272256>I can tell this fag has never had to work with these peoplethat fag *is* one of those people
>>535269112the ongoing psyop everyone falls for is criticizing capitalism while living in a centrally planned and globalized economy leftists especially have a very hard time understanding this
>>535269112Retarded.The richest people are people who obsess over simply making money as the end goal.Basically their full time job becomes finance, venture capital, and networking. A fuckton of these people do originally start out as engineers, scientists, mathematicians, etc. Finance attracts a fuckton of very smart people from different fields once they get to an age where they get serious about investing. Then before you know it, they're just working full time in some financial job.
>>535269112It rewards conmanship which is basically charisma the only thing humanity gives a shit about.
The fucking ape in humanity don't give a shit about your plans unless you dictate fear or admiration from the looks.
>>535269112The whole point of capitalism is to reward capital i.e. investors.And that's exactly what it does.
>>535275463>exile stupid faggots>start the biggest wave of innovation since gutenberg
>>535269422Also commie leaders are even dumber. See Maduro.
>>535269112I can acknowledge that someone like Elon Musk works harder than me and is probably smarter than I am. I do not acknowledge that he works billions of times harder than me or is billions of times smarter than me.
>>535277403The NAZIs had great scientists. That doesn't make my point wrong. They exiled Albert Einstein.
>>535277621Maybe they caught him stealing their patents.
>>535277621>They exiled Albert Einsteinand? everything einstein was right about, he stole from goyimand the rest has been proven wrongsuch leeches are not neededthanks for making exactly my point
>>535269112current systems allow the rich to pay politicians to do what they want. it wouldn't work in china
>>535277574just look at all the famous billionaires and where their money came fromall of them got big government contracts, hell facebook is just a CIA/NSA frontthey were not smarter, they were connected and installed by the cabalsome of them do actually produce a bit here and there, but the big money does not come from regular customers
>>535277764as long as you don't overstep, money opens a lot of doors in chinabut they are the only ones that execute billionaires for wrong doing, that's true
>>535278008it's an actual problem when a corporation can buy politicians to change the law
>>535269112i really dont care for ideology or ism but the govt and richest people being parasites instead of dooers is a problemthe problem is usury aka parasitism
>>535278008Hispanic Empire tier
>>535271233I'd more prefer a system where if the company doesn't operate in the interest of the people the executives, board and largest share holders are executed and their wealth taken and them replaced. Yes it's vague, yes it's open to Jewish interpretations that let them weasel out of responsibility but it's better than Dupont dumping chemicals into the water or black stone owned datacenter constructions tapping into towns water supply to siphon enough water without paying and dropping the water pressure for the whole area that uses that pipe
>>535269112>Why is capitalism so bad at rewarding hard work?communism is worse
>>535269855>Who mentioned communism.if you don't see OP for the thinly veiled commie he is you're a retardgo back to your goats
>>535269422all these commies are going to pretend communism is mentioned but we all know that's the alternative to capitalism. unfortunately communism only works when it's a small country of mutual ethnics with large natural resources, and even then it always drifts to authoritarianism and cronyism.
>>535278152true, but that has been a problem for all of civitasthe real problem lies with how our money system worksit's a mathematically insane and leads to constant crashes, ghost money influencing real products and markets and the devaluation of your savings>>535278194i would be delighted if you could give me some backround to this
>>535269112All Capitalism boils down to are directing resources freely to the where they are best used. You spend your money on an apple because you want an apple, some guy who wanted to plant an apple to sell you then gets your moneyThis is all it is, it is just free association.
>>535269112Most of those are in unions which doesn't reward hard work at all. >doctorsunion in many hospitals >scientistsunions in academia and gov>engineersusually union or they work overseas for big money. A modern engineer in N America is just a jeet wrangler his job is to check the work of 3rd world imported workers >Cleanersrun your own cleaning company you'll get rich, there's one here started by a former bum who specializes in bio cleaning for all those gov run crack shacks. He's a millionaire and employs other former junkies but they're white so work is done properly
>>535269112I guess Andrew Carnegie was a lazy dumbass.
>>535269112>capital-ismwhat could go wrong in a society engineered to revolve around the root of all evil
>>535269112Capitalism rewards those who are greedy, manipulative and cunning. I learned this a few years ago when I gave up being a wagie and started a business>t. earning 600k a year profit from selling auto parts
>>535269112The only difference between communism and capitalism is whose hand is holding our leash.At least with capitalism l can get a longer leash than you.
>>535278847Yes here's something Aristotle said about the money-lust pervading all aspects of society (aka capital-ism)>For it is not the function of courage to produce wealth>but to inspire daring>nor is it the function of the military art>nor of the medical art>but it belongs to the former to bring victory>and to the latter to cause health.>Yet (((these people))) make all these faculties means for the business of providing wealth,>in the belief that wealth is the end and that everything must be directed to the end
>>535279117>holding our leashfunny you mention thatUnder Communism, the economy and the people exist to serve (((the state.)))Under Capitalism, the state and the people exist to serve (((the economy.)))Under National Socialism, the state and the economy exist to serve the people.
>>535279411I don't actually care who holds the leash. I just want the one that lets me get the most.> Slave mentalityFair point. If pretending you aren't on the end of a leash works for you then good on ya.
>>535269112>skill and intelligence>scientiststhese charlatans took things that already existed and made more of them or claimed credit for them. science didn't invent metalworkling, medicine or shipbuilding, any more than the jewish "god" invented the world
>>535269112capitalism only rewards jewsits a giant ponzi scheme
>>535269112>communism is bad because without some form of market there can't be any natural competition to produce the best product.>capitalism is bad because if the market itself is simply let loose without any grander design or wish for something it will simply accrue capital towards more often than not a lucky winner and not the genuinely best one.Both of these are solved with national socialism where the guidelines for what is wanted is laid forth by the party, yet competition to then please the party, and thus the body-national at large, is given the organically best results.
>>535271096again, solved by national socialism. The taxes should simply be taken to improve the body-national, mostly through social programs and alike that is given to the weaker parts of the body-national and not to invasive bug-people.
>>535269112Capitalism has always rewarded the people who create the jobs the most out of anyone else. You can call them retarded all you want but if it was so easy a "retard" could do it, then what does that make you? A super retard?
>>535280168anything that isn't either STEM or law or something very close to hard science is simply fairytale bullshit akin to religious scripture. The title scientist should only be allowed for actual stem field scientists and most social science people in the last 100 years should be shot.
>>535278394do retards really think communism is the only alternative to capitalism? were fascists and nazis capitalists? were feudalists? do you niggers even understand what capitalism is?
>>535269112So, if you're a retarded, untalented slacker you too could be a millionaire? I understand being upset that you aren't rich, but come on now
>>535269112>cherry picking your copebeyond meat laughable
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>>535280581They were taught that the economy and state serving the people was le hecking evil because muh adolf and the 6 gorillion. They used propaganda and academia to make people adverse to the one thing that could save them, so they can have them picking out colored jerseys for the gay off that happens every 4 years.
>>535269112Dodge v. Ford Motor Co.
>>535269112>Work hard to create a big pile of shit>Expect to be rewarded>"Why is capitalism like this, bros?"
>>535269422>we should shit on the worker and reward unproductive leeches who don't even invest their capital they just hoard the wealth the system produces
>>535269509National Socialism is on its face, just the idea of promoting everyone working together and putting the needs of the Country over the needs of other countries. Really its biggest issue is that eventually ideologues take over and push their personal views on issues that the state has no business being involved in. This is why the Nazis failed, and why China had to back pedal on so many policies that were implemented decades ago, though they're still feeling the negative effects of now.
>>535269422Nobody is trying to say that Communism hasn't failed, burger-mutt-groid. They're telling you that your version of Capitalism has. If they can get through your animistic whooping and hollering.
>>535280581>were fascists and nazis capitalists?yes, national socialism is capitalism but the government has the final say in what big companies do (hello China?)>were feudalists? this happened before industrialization and is irrelevant now, cannot be replicated
>>535269112You should start a janitorial service business and pay your workers $100/hr. Show them how it’s done!
>>535281116and all the janitors should have equal say in company management!
>>535280786Costco exists and they tell investors that they plan around long term gains rather than short term ones, and so far this has consistently satisfied the rules regarding business practices.It's easy to blame one Supreme Court decision, but really most companies shifted to this "fuck people" model in the 80s.Though given there's now evidence that businesses like Costco actually revitalize dying communities, and promote small town businesses, I suspect they'll be hit with a lot more bullshit against them in the coming years.
>>535281096>capitalism but the capitalists aren't asked shitbig thinklet me guess, you think capitalism means the economy exists
>>535281221The Costco founder literally told the CEO that he would kill him if he raised the price of the hot dog. Jews also can’t stop kvetching over the $4.99 rotisserie chicken and have tried twice to sue Costco because of bullshit reasons surrounding it.
>>535281221the rules are not there to be applied to everyoneif you get in ZOGs sight and it is determined to destroy you, you will get sued for absolute BSdoesn't matter if your competition does the same stuff, hell, they will buy your company with cents on the dollar when they are done with you
Capitalism rewards productive use of capital. Literally any of you dull witted niggers, with just a little impulse control, could put $100 into an S&P index and get $110 back a year from now. In 10 years time you're getting $8,000 a year simply to NOT piss away your money on onlyfans subscriptions, microtransactions, and doordash. Or I guess bitch about it on social media and be an even bigger bitter loser a decade from now.
>>535283965The have-nots bemoan the haves. It's a take as old as time. There is no system that exists that can promise eternal equality. Some will win, some will lose. And those who lose will wail and gnash their teeth.>We will live, they will die.
>>535278236>I'd more prefer a system where if the company doesn't operate in the interest of the people the executives, board and largest share holders are executed and their wealth taken and them replaced. Yes it's vague, yes it's open to Jewish interpretations that let them weasel out of responsibility but it's better than Dupont dumping chemicals into the water or black stone owned datacenter constructions tapping into towns water supply to siphon enough water without paying and dropping the water pressure for the whole area that uses that pipeYou want more Government control of business, in other words, you want to continue the current trend.We're not living in the wild west of natural corporations, we're living in a world that's had consistently more government control of buisness for 150 years, and you want to keep that trend going. Obviously, the world hasn't gotten centralized ENOUGH for you yet, you need MORE of what's been increasing the last century and a half.
>>535287371>You want more Government control of business, in other words, you want to continue the current trend.its not the current trend. they along with aipac lobby the govt to write legislation for them
>>535269112It rewards your ability to play the game
>>535269509Have you actually read Mein Kampf?It's just Aristocracy 2.0: Blonde version. And aristocratic hierarchies can fuck right off.
>>535277403>biggest wave of innovation>couldn't make a nuke despite being the first to discover nuclear fissionBiggest L in science more like
>>535269112All of those people get "rewarded" (paid). Cleaners, "laborers" (virtually no modern leftist making these points is a real laborer), and service workers are dime a dozen. It's impossible to pay 4 billion pajeet janitors 100K or more per year.
>>535288926>The only successful systems in all of human history can "fuck right off"Yeah you're gay.
>>535269112Capitalism provides goods and services that a customer wants.Our system provides those with capital the means to extract wealth from others without providing anything in return. You pay for every bank loan through inflation. The more assets someone has, the more they can shave value from your dollars.
>>535269112Because capitalism is about maximizing profiit.Nothing else matters. It rewards as much money you can make with as little effort as possible. The natural end point of this is intentionally making stuff worse so that it has to be replaced faster, thus selling more things for less effort. That's called planned obsolescence and is a widespread commonly accepted tactic.
>>535280984This type of framing always makes me laugh; always talking about how other systems had to "back pedal" due to "issues", yet the west remains eternally steadfast in its adherence to systems that have produced rampant goyslop consumerism, obesity, retardation, and negative fertility rates. When is it our turn to "back pedal" on our obviously failing policies? Or is that just something we pretend only other people do to make us feel like we're not the retards?
>>535269112Why would a cleaner or laborer be rich? Anyone can be a cleaner. You can pick any random person off the street and teach them how to do these jobs in 15 minutes. If you could earn a gorillion dollars pushing a broom why would anyone be anything else? Capitalism rewards people who cultivate a skill that few other people have. God commies are so fucking dumb.
>>535269112it rewards uniqueness and riskthe more unique the skill you have the more you're going to get paid, hardworkers literally don't use their braincels but just their handseasy to hire and easy to fire, billions of humans with their set of skillsscientists, neurosurgeons and engineers get paid well because few of them but CEOS and venture capitalists even fewer
>>535269112>capitalism rewards the people that complain the most
>>535269112Hard work is stupid. Anyone can work hard.
>>535289694I think they legitimately backpedal, we don't because we put the cost on the Bretton Woods credit card and delay the consequences. Any alcoholic knows that the longer you put off hitting your rock bottom, the worse it is.
>>535289811Fair point, and yeah, it probably also has to do with this retardedly dogmatic mindset Westerners seem to have. In the East everything is engineering minded; iterative, changing things that suck, keeping things that don't. But when the west latches onto a concept like "individualism" or "freedom", it acts like any deviation is a blasphemous affront. We'd rather martyr our entire civilizations and die the "good goys" vs actually improve anything or recognize the mistakes we made at all.
>>535271096Why don't you bitch and moan about problems that are inherent to capitalism instead you retard. Any other economic system would also gladly spend your resources feeding foreigners given the right leadership.
>>535283965Half of your country has negative balance. The haves won't understand the havenots. If your parents helped you with college or housing, you are two steps further than everyone else. Poverty is a grind. It is less obvious in the US, cause it's a place where making money is by far the easiest in the World.
>>535269647Capitalism rewards Epstein and his friends. It's still rewarding Epstein and his friends.This isn't a defense of communism or anything else. It's a condemnation of capitalism.
>>535280984>This is why the Nazis failedThat's ridiculous. They were so successful that the three empires of the world combined forces to stop to their success (by bombing civilian sectors to smithereens.)
>>535271603You mean the person that manages those engineers, or the person that put up the capital to finance the company in the first place, sure. It's so common for engineers to go up the corporate ladder, where more and more of their work is organizing things instead of actually working on the things they are interested in, and so they regret it despite making a lot more money. The most rewarded skill in capitalism is giving people what they want at a price that allows you to turn a profit. That's it.
>>535269112For the same reason physics formally distinguishes between force applied and work done.
>>535287371I've spent enough time in the corporate world to know that the corporate elite are even worse than the shitlib commie govs. You have no idea just how fucked capitalism has gotten
>>535288926>just Aristocracy 2.0: Blonde version.It's literally not. Why would you even say that if you never read it.
>>535269112>Capitalism only rewards efficiency and has a surprisingly limited view of what efficiency entails; it suffers a sort of compounding-error effect at large scale because any given transaction is inherently limited in scope. Once you chain these together....
>>535292328>The most rewarded skill in capitalism is giving people what they want at a price that allows you to turn a profit.That's just running your operation in the black. Nothing to do with capital-ism, it can happen in any economic framework
>>535269112Why are niggers so bad at tonguing my anus
>>535269584>cleaners aren't because anyone can do it20 years ago I was doing commercial cleaning and I was making $50k for 25 hours a week. Back then my friend were making $50 an hour washing windows. Sometime I was doing extra and it was a $400 for no difference in how many hour I worked.
>>535269112"Hard work" isn't really a good thing, though. People would like hard work to be a good thing because it means they do not have to change nor use different approaches in response to problems, and instead may feel entitled to a different outcome from exertion alone; it's an excuse to remain stuck. In practice, "hard work" is really just greed and stubbornness; thinking that by exerting more energy into a task that more will be accrued from it, but reality does not operate in this manner. If the door to your dwelling is locked, it takes significantly less hard work to twist a key that will open the lock than it does to pull out a crowbar and physically pry the door from its hinges to enter the dwelling. If you pry the door off every day, you will exhaust yourself needlessly just by entering your dwelling; your time & energy has been wasted preforming a task that could be done much more efficiently with a different approach. So, working efficiently is a good & valuable thing, but working hard is not.
>>535293311It got everything to do with capitalism, because other economic frameworks explicitly cut into your operation to extract value for other means (state bureaucracy mostly, in modern times). Capitalism is literally just the freedom to make contracts with people, that's all it is.
>>535269112But capitalism does reward all those people if they have talent. Even cleaners and laborers.
>>535269422>immediately deflects and goes into full damage control modelol>>535269509nazi leadership, the famously competent group that lost to slavic untermenschen and subhuman jews in britain and the us kek
It benefits the school alpha bullies. Remember high school NEVER ends.
>>535294261The bulk of invention (up until recently) have been to reduce "hard work". But employer for some reason value hard work, if I can do a task in 15 minutes and be done while a coworker do the same task in an hour and looks busy doing so it looks better for him. Even people like Elon Musk thinks like that, they only see more work hour = more work done.
>>535269422The world is literally standing on the edge of apocalypse because of capitalism and fucking Eglin Air Force Base is still bitching about communism. Cuba should have been fucking nuked when we had the chance. Send all the little CIA faggots there since they love that little shit hole island so much. There's still time to do it.
>>535269590They're not different things.
>>535269422Why are US companies scared of competing with China's car industry, what's capitalistic about that?
>>535269647capitalism rewards those who control capital
>>535269422Because there are only two options.. wtf is this shit?
>>535269112Wow I guess capitalism rewards whoever is most economically valuable.This changes everything.
>>535284962This is literally not how human civilization was founded. If it hadn't been for socialism you wouldn't exist right now. Capitalism is a new and degenerate philosophy that has its origin from the lazy non-workers in society who have managed to scam the hard workers out of their labor. It's a tale as old as civilization itself and it's why civilizations keep collapsing. If you look through history almost every single collapse of civilization is economic in nature. Almost every single one is caused by rich idiots destroying society because they don't know how to run it because they don't live in the real fucking world.
>>535269112Capitalism doesn't reward anything. Capitalism is anything trading hands by any means. Not private property rights. That's all imaginary, but capitalism is a primal force, it was called imperialism before, economies exist inside capitalism, not outside.Communism is retarded and people say it "goes against human nature" it doesn't, it goes against capitalism, which is living creature nature. Grass takes nutrients, it's not beneficial to the soil, its not negative. It's resources trading places by way of a organism moving them.
>>535280555>lawentirely based on libtard ideology
>>535271096reminder that most whites are also net negative.
>>535269112there are ways to critique capitalism, and this is an embarrassing failure to do so coherently.
>>535269112Because the entire idea of capitalism that makes people salivate is unearned income. Unearned income is the most sacred cornerstone of any western democracy. If you touch that, you'll instantly be labelled an extremist, terrorist and threat to the function of democratic society. Capitalism is all about earning income from the labor, resources and value that others deliver while doing next to nothing yourself.
>>535269112Capitalism rewards the people who own big tech companies that launder money for the CIA
>>535269112Since when was capitalism supposed to specifically reward anyone?"Capital" is right there in the name. I know of a few migrants who run their own businesses, don't speak much English, and seem to be doing fine compared to other migrants.These are the same retards that always say "seize the means of production," are against individualism, and think the people should own the capital.
>>535277750>and? everything einstein was right about, he stole from goyimSeriously, he got attention off of one equation built off a few centuries of work from dozens of others.
>>535269422Genuinely asking.Why?
>>535283965>put $100 into an S&P index and get $110 back a year from now.Back in March SanDisk's stock was at $600. Last week it peaked at $1,500.In one day I made $12 off a $100.
>>535283965i think your math might be off by a bit. that or you're using words incorrectly. Either way you should refrain from lecturing people on adult topics.
>>535269112because the investment class makes up bs then the lawyer/attorney class conspires to fuck you over and they all pocket your suffering if you try something
>>535269112Because it rewards monopoly, which is none of those things.>>535269422The answer isn't communism. It's true capitalism. The problem is that our system and those like it are enclosure capitalism. The commons is enclosed. Capitalism actually solves most social problems, but it can't unenclose the commons.Believe it or not, that's the entire problem.
>>535269502no, you're unhappy because you think everybody else should give you everything they have and expect nothing in returnhopefully you'll kill yourself, because the only other option you'll even consider is killing someone else, and they don't deserve to die just because you're a commie turbofaggot
>>535269112Capitalism rewards those who create value. That's it.
>>535300578because if you're not a billionaire under capitalism, you would be dead under communism, simple as
>>535300980actually you'd probably be a high-ranking official desu
>>535269112>if capitalism truly rewarded skill or intelligence, the richest people would be neurosurgeons, engineers, and scientistsI have an uncle who is a neurosurgeon. He is hired by contract similar to a pro athlete. The contract includes salary, years, and performance-based bonuses. When the contract is near to it's expiration date, he is offered an extension which he can decline and ask to renegotiate. He is retired now (he is 61 years old) but his last salary paid him $102,000 per month. When he was 22, he was accepted to medical school. His dad gave him a gift of $10,000 worth of S&P 500 mutual fund shares in a Roth IRA account. My uncle added $100 worth of S&P 500 shares every month to that account. When at 34 years old he was given his first real contract, he started adding the max amount ($7500 worth of S&P 500 per year) to that account. When he turned 60, that account had over $5 million in investment growth. He used that month to fully pay for five real estate properties. He has five income streams each around $10000 per month of which only property tax and some maintenance is removed. He lives off of some of that monthly income. He uses some of the rest to pay the monthly payment on one million dollar whole-life life insurance policies on several elderly family members. His career earnings are in a high yield savings account which he doesn't even need to touch. He's been rewarded handsomely.There are many engineers with a similar story.Not all scientists are skillful or intelligent. In fact, many are bumbling idiots.Capitalism is about compensating for a service provided. If the service is art, you have to define what you mean by art. Writers and creators are artists. The person who wrote that X post, Rushi, seems to be out of his league and whining. Many book writers make millions of dollars for writing a single book. Some writers never make that money in a lifetime. People like good books. Writers are compensated handsomely for that service.
>>535301010nope, rich people under capitalism would be the high-ranking officials under communismyou wouldn't get to be poet-laureate of the revolution, that job would go to someone like J.K. Rowling, who can actually produce literature the nomenklaturat would enjoy reading
>>535301010>>535301180There's a collage of a few dozen commies claiming they'd be teachers or yoga instructors if there was a commie country that popped up over night.They'd actually be forced to work on farms or mines if needed.
>>535269112>>535301044Continuing, capitalism is the exchange of services for financial gain. Like all things within a capitalist system, prices are based on supply and demand. Again we run into Rushi's comprehension and literacy problem. Cleaners are laborers and service workers, but let's assume we know what he meant to say. We are talking about unskilled, untrained, uneducated labor. Such labor workers are the most common labor worker. The supply of such workers is in great abundance. The service they provide can be fulfilled by any of the vast number of unskilled people at little to no cost to train them. Cleaning ladies are paid modestly because, well, even you and I can do their job today with no prior training. Plumbers, for example, need a certain measure of expertise but nothing that would be difficult for most people to acquire. Plumbers get compensated more than a cleaning lady but nothing compared to the neurosurgeon or engineer whose career required many, many years of university and all the trials and tribulations that come with it. Where such things are not rewarded is in a socialist or communist system. A central committee decides what you need and what you get. In those systems, there is no free market. As such, people are not free. In a free market society, you are free to improve yourself to make yourself and your services more valuable. It is not easy to achieve. It is hard work, very hard work in fact, but it is hard work that is rewarded. There are trillions of dollars sloshing around the United States every single day. You have to work hard to get some of it. You have to dedicate time. You have to take risks. You have to be completely devoted. And you have to work at it constantly.
