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I think a lot of the shallow Palantir hate has a genealogy with Nick Fuentes, similar to how Groypers usually have no educated critique of the Israelis. I think anyone who opposes that company should truly look into how it operates, because lately I have been seeing people speak of it while having done no research on it whatsoever.
I'm not talking about their contracts with In-Q-Tel or how Alex Karp is supportive of Israel, I'm talking about "They are a data collections company" (They help enterprises organize their data. They at least do not, and could not, have access to all of it at scale), or "they killed school children in Iran" (the military managed the MAVEN Smart system, it's their responsibility to ensure their reconnaissance is valid before executing any operations whatsoever), I've even heard something as ridiculous as "they are sneaking spyware in" while using proprietary hardware and software (social media, Intel CPUs from Israel). The critique gets to a point, man.
The way the U.S. government is utilizing Palantir I think is a completely separate issue that has its origins IN the government and not Palantir. Everyone is blindsided away from the other operations they're doing for the economy in the United States that may have genuine benefits, like fighting insurance company denials, natural disaster preparedness, nuclear and solar energy production, early disease detection, logistics in hospitals. If you look at any quarterly earnings for the companies that Palantir serves, you will see that their costs to operate are reduced significantly (Centrus Energy, a nuclear enrichment company, has saved $300M thanks to Palantir).
I go in such a great detail over this because I want to emphasize how much potential improvements to the U.S. economy just gets ignored in the name of political culture war, it's that retarded. At this point, if anyone truly says they don't have a "reactionary perspective on technology", ask them what their opinion is on Palantir.
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>>535302298
troon post troon pic
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>>535302298
What's palantir?
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>>535302298
I don't like the relationship the United States has with Israel. At the same time, they aren't going to nitpick and rape you for violating a minor law just because they have an intense surveillance apparatus. The more this country has legislated new laws, the less it has followed them in the name of its national integrity. They haven't arrested millions of people committing piracy for a reason, and the trump administration slowed down on deporting immigrants for the same reason (although it's to accept better ones first to work, presumably), both of which completely goes against against their ideology. I could name many more examples. So is Palantir going to lead to a dystopian surveillance state that is going to be the Third Reich on steroids? I don't fucking think so. We've lived under the "surveillance state" ever since the patriot act has done away with our privacy, look at the criminals who still have a freedom of movement in our society. They have the means to do it, they just don't fucking do anything. Because it's not worth arresting millions of citizens, nor is it worth losing a large contributor to their economy. The second Hitler is nearly impossible at this rate.
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>>535302425
they are gonna use 6g surveillance and facial scanning to abduct your kids so rabbi schmuley will eat them
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>>535302472
this is why you should always post redpills we need pilled people in high places
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>>535302298
Nah it can still scan you with shades and a mask. The way to trick it is you gotta use a mask with a face on it and glasses with eyes on them and that confuses the software. Think something like this and one of those gay ahegao face masks
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>>535302298
>learn about Palantir
like the time they went after wikileaks?
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>>535302486
But I get no pussy?
And I don't go outside...
How will this affect my pathetic life?
WHAT DOES JA RULE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS?!?!?
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>>535302425
palantir are the glowies /pol/ warns you about.
and they have recently been scooping up government contracts.
their expertise is in merging large databases together from sources like social media, and various service providers to build profiles of everyone for extracting inferences and feeding into ai.
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>>535302298
>*20 miggerpoints have been added to your FREEDOM SCORE*
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>>535302563
>>535302652
>>535302892
They don't even need to scan your face to track you. Judging from their architecture, covering your face is fucking useless. That's why picrel is so funny to me. They have a thing called object types with properties, and the face is certainly not the only property of a given profile here. If there is anyone who is unidentified, we could in theory look at their height, their posture, their gait, who they pass by, their point of entry and their point of exit, etc. And that is JUST coming from the fucking cameras. We could also look at other forms of data, like cellular tower connections, or internet activities, and associate their own anomalies with the person in question.
None of this shit is new a la the Snowden leaks. We have been under this shit for YEEARS. If any oligarch in question decides to lock all of these systems in and reduce our freedom of movement to nothing, perfect... sacrifice any new data to compete with in your economy against your interest.
>"They are so obsessed with data that they are willing to sacrifice new forms of data"
Makes no fucking sense to me. What am I missing? Keep in mind I have denied none of what you said so far, uvPbjVC4.
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>>535302298
the solution is simple;
we kill the boomers and genx in their very homes at night.
they cant hide being old bags of shit.
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>Palantir
They're a garbage company like flock who are working 24/7 to turn America into a panopticon that was used to meme on China for. They think that we shouldn't be allowed to have our privacy because some people go crazy or because terrorist exist. They are antiamerican. They're just another batch of people who want more power. They should be starved of government contracts.
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>>535302999
Sounds like we need another george rockwell.
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>>535302995
good luck, I live in an open carry state with stand your ground laws, don't shoot to kill, and it takes me a while to remember what the number for 911 is
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>>535302298
i'm sad that i only 2x'd what could have been a 20x on PLTR
like if im going to live in a police state at least have profited more off it
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>>535303065
Anon, just invest in the companies they're collaborating with.
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>>535302472
I hope you are right and would take in account just every day, normal human fuck ups or lack of attention span or just distractions into accounts and not just strictly fucking verbalize and fine you for every stupid shit imaginable that is minor or just inconsequential.
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>>535302298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEllWdK4l_A
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>>535303114
Yeah they're insecure as fuck
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>>535303057
yeah and you fall asleep earlier than our drones take off.
you’re dead in the water, fat boy
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>>535303136
Insecure as in security vulnerabilities. Louis Rossman's heart is in the right place.
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>>535302964
it's kind of sardonic how assange got trump elected only for trump to hand out lucrative contracts to assange's nemesis, palantir.
i still have a bunch of files from the hbgary hack lul
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>>535302298
You know they can just track your license plate and phone? And credit cards. And if all that fails the Ai can learn how you walk and move to track you. Face scanning while still used is outdated.
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>>535303167
>Assange's nemesis is Palantir actually, not the american intelligence community...
What's next, showing your willingness to sacrifice more lives in Britian than the dead Palestinians, all in the name of removing spooky lord of the rings company from the HHS?
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>>535303241
Read >>535302964
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>>535303241
just say xkeyscore and PRISM is abused by law enforcement dumb nigger
the world knows it
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>>535303272
You could easily say that to uvPbjVC4
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>>535303241
>puts pebble in my shoe
imagine defeating a trillion dollar defense contractor and the greatest technological achievements in mankind's history with a fucking rock lmaooooo
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>>535302298
Nigger it's five demonsional invisible succubi imp faggots nephelim blood line from when nigger Satan got 86d from good guys club
Jesus Christ is laughing at you cause he has gold armor with a Nike swoosh like heath ledger in a knights tale , oh ya heath ledger is gonna be there , Jimi Hendrix is gonna play voodoo child alight return as Jesus and St Michael do a fusion dance into Satan's dick hole and then throw him into the lake of fire while cheesing at the camera and breaking the forth wall
What do you think Jesus and St Michael will say when they throw Satan and his followers into the lake of fire ?;
It's gotta be something cool
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>>535303297
>Oh look anon is wearing his fav black shirt with the hole in it at quadrant 3 section 2.
>He is also limping for some reason.
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>>535303359
pope leo is the antichrist
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>>535302298
wow, a palantir employee on pol
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>>535303385
nah its literally all you american legionnaire faggoys
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>>535303379
Just get ir glasses or make your own
Get them from old tv remotes and sh that has the little red doohickey in it and power it and nigger rig it to some sun glasses
It'll put a huge lense flare over your face the more little red doohickey you put on it
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>>535303167
You could use the same passion with your research on wikileaks and learn how Palantir works btw
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>the evil jewish eye watching over you is good actually, the line went up
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>>535303425
Oh you can even sew them into your clothes and make a whole ghost appear on their sh lol
They'll send mounted units to come harass you though
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>>535303417
>>535303435
All of this shit is public information, they have their own wiki on Foundry. I don't work for Palantir, you're just speaking to an autist who is hyperfocusing on it
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>>535303463
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>>535303463
>perhaps if i, american hollywood celebrity, wear this red string on my wrist then ill be protected from the department of defenses NSA and air force illegal surveillance and harassment campaigns on american soil?
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You dumb niggers make me mad you don't ask the right questions and it's really an insult to my intelligence

Question ; How do we defeat a centralized system built on a centralized computer network built on an unstable power grid with little to no security
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>>535303570
literally kill the boomers and gen x military guys
they were going to keep you at the kid’s’ table for eternity while jacking off to their own perverted delusions about life
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>>535303570
>you don't ask the right questions and it's really an insult to my intelligence
You describing Palantir as a centralized computer network is an insult to my intelligence.
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You infiltrate it and unplug it dumb ass

Haha ya I'm : so and so good guy who never had a criminal record but hate evil corpos and techno tyranny psychopaths hell bent on enslaving my great grandchildren for sex island parties
Let me just slide this USB into my work computer rq
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>>535303631
Nah you literally just kill the boomers and genx faggots.
fuck their gay oath violating lives
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>>535303619
It's a centralized computer network Brodie
It has a off switch somewhere
And if that means blasting the ceos brains out and slaughtering his whole family
I mean someone's gotta take one for the team , and by team I mean humanity.
Cause let's face it
They wanna make ai
So they can make themselves immortal or cyborgs and enslave the human race
They're weird nerds who didn't get much pussy in life if any at all
Or worse they got a micro dick and small balls and too ashamed to be the girl they really are so they wanna be evil and enslave humanity
It's always faggots man
They ruin everything
I'm not talking about gay people
I'm taking about faggots
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>>535303697
yeah so kill yourself already genx nigger
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>>535303680
I wouldn't even have a problem with that but the police have their little gay kin as police too .
The whole "I'm a cop cause my daddy was a cop" crowd has to be decimated
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>>535303697
>it has one off switch
You are indeed a retard
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>>535303435
i have a good idea already.
and i have seen enough examples of power being abused when not sufficiently safeguarded.
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>>535303717
yeah so get to it.
pull the trigger.
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>>535303719
There is a main hub dick shit.
All those big nodules
Are main hubs
Cut one of two
Not enough power dick shit
Go grow a brain ffs
I'm smarter than you deal with it
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>>535303739
trolling
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>>535303732
I'm not a Gen x or boomer you slant eyed fucking jungle bunny
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>>535303752
sure you arent big boy.
Mohns militia is going to end the entire federal government one fat mans head at a time.
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>>535302298
Mmhmm, yeah... Go on?
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>>535303750
You're trying to discredit me now cause I'm right

If Americans attack one or two of those main power supplies
Bye bye government

Will give it 48 hours before Somalians kick in peoples doors and start eating /raping them after the power shuts off
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>>535303763
Good
I hope every cop gets canoed and every politician gets hunted
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>>535302964
>Object types with properties
Lmao it's funny to hear people who know nothing about computers try to explain technology. Hey bud objects with properties describes almost every piece of software on earth.
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>>535302472
This nigger is worried about piracy when we're already living in an anarcho tyrannic state.
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>>535303795
sure you do tough guy.
shoot the FBI through the door
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>>535303816
>kill genx and boomers
problem solved
we have to grow up and kill our parents
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>>535303858
How about you kill yourself agent
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>>535302298
palantir recently published a gay little manifesto basically implying the need for a draft so goy can die for israel and how important it is that billionaires have privacy and that people need to stop making fun of billionaires. that big tech should drop the iphones and focus on weapons so goy can fight for israel. that's not literally what they said and i'm paraphrasing but it was clearly implied.
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>>535303903
whats your real problem with these statements, fed boy?
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>>535303938
I have been on this site longer than you agent .
I know what you're doing and who you work for
You're fishing is what you're doing
You're the only one throwing the word fed around

It's called lack of training
I forgive you agent ? What should I call you ? Agent nigger ? Or agent chink ?
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>>535303993
cool gen x, kill yourself.
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>>535304036
That's what I told you to do earlier agent nigger
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>>535302472
i think they're waiting for the ai infrastructure before they go full surveillance state. that way if there is any backlash they'll be able to track it with ai. what power does to people is it turns them into addictive junkies, same effect on the brain as cocaine, so you cant count on rational behaviour. what you can count on is the "elite" going to increasingly draconian lengths due to tolerance developing but still needing to chase that high and satisfy their addiction to power. and just like any junkie they can overdose and fuck up.
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Someone get this Danish midget interpol agent outta here please
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>>535303816
I don't think the common criminal poses no threat just because they don't touch the ruling class. The concerns of any ruling class would be against anyone who threatens their rule, not anyone who just opposes it. This seriously extends to their economic principles to the point "Anarcho-tyranny" is not the same kind of tyranny as what would happen under Mao or the Nazi regime. The least you can do is not piss off the elite, and you'll still have the comfort of your own bed. That is what I mean when I said they don't give a shit about piracy, they could care less about the citizens who still practically support their economy.
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>>535304049
continued...
so basically palantir is the drug dealer. and you're telling me to blame the junkies for ruining my community and not the drug dealer selling the worst drugs to the worst people.
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>>535304126
Reducing the war on drugs to "junkies vs. drug dealers" is the reason why the Oregon proposition didn't work.
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>>535302964
>none of this is new
the cameras are not new, but their limitation is that they don't have the ability to monitor a billion cameras in real time. ai changes that. that's what they're moving towards
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>>535304202
What's your plan to stop AI?
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>>535302486
5g is already shit, so I do hope 6g is better
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>>535304178
it was an analogy. the junkies are the "elites", the drug is power, the dealer is palantir

>>535304212
i'm pro ai
but i'm not a direction brained retard that has to take a side 100% and never admit any issues or problems unless its about "the other side". i have reasonable concerns.
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>>535304355
I am working inside of your analogy to discredit it here.
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>>535304212
The power grid dummy
And if they switch it to solar
Their solar farms
Just need 200 good loyal soldiers and weaponry
You can go take over one rn
I know several in East LA that are essentially unguarded
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>>535304121
yeah you'll have comfort in your own bed until some nigger decides that they need something in your house and then whoops! Looks like your shit gets pushed in by nigger tyrone or, if you defend yourself, johnny law.

Now john law doesn't fuck with people in power, he doesn't arrest them at all. He keeps you from fucking with the law. Now they might have to run animal control every now and again, but they would rather let a nigger kill you than shoot them and have another george floyd on their hands.
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>>535304370
that's being pedantic, it doesn't need to be a 100% parallel.
>an airplane is like a big metal bird
>"not true because birds flap their wings"

i don't only blame the junkie, i also blame the dealer for selling a terrible drug to clearly terrible people. that was my only point. i don't care about oregons war on drugs or whatever
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>>535304433
Don't live in a city full of them. John law is directed by the state governor.
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>>535304447
Are junkies and dealers the only issue behind the drug problem?
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>>535302298
>Mass survielance good actually because corporations saved some money
Genuinely kys
What we know from the past 80 years is that Gdp is the least important metric when it comes to quality of life
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>>535304493
Cool, that means it doesn't effect our quality of life.
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>>535304492
you talk like a shill. not saying you're a leftoid but you are doing pic related right now.

anyways if you're trying to make a point just say it because i don't play cryptic question games
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>>535304537
Sorry, I just don't think your retarded class-war analogy explains everything about our society or our quality of life. If you aren't willing to engage with my response about how your analogy is useless just because I am being "cryptic", go about your business then.
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>>535302298
No. Palantir has already been used to kill people in gaza by assigning a score that scraped any information it can about the person. Palantir provides the surveillance infrastructure to target dissidents especially against "anti-semites" of which their head zionist jew Alex Karp has stated as one of his big goals. Palantir is explicitly part of the Israeli and jewish tech ecosystem to secure and further their ethnic self-interest against those that seek to undermine them. We already see what they do with any neutral institution or company they subvert. They eventually weaponize and have it serve as just another bastion of jewish position in our society. All those "benefits" are poisoned. It's yet another line go up ponzi scheme of which tue benefits primarily go to jews, corpos, and elites. Even that $300 million energy saving is fuck all once you factor in all the state subsidies, benefits, investments, and profot sharing etc. That's $300 million to people's energy bill. Those savings are ate up by the expansion of new energy infrastructure to fuel their huge planned data centers of which are extremely energy hungry calling for retarded bullshit like doubling our total national energy consumption.
Palantir is a parasite, beckoning for more resources to fuel the ai bubble. Sure advancement is good, but no one trusts or should trust anything to do with Palantir, Vance, Thiel, Rubio, and the rest of their jewish elite clique. They can't govern competently and non-maliciously.
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>>535304519
Yeah, it worsens it, jeet importing kike.
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>>535304686
>the ai bubble
Man that is such a great litmus test to let me know that someone is being retarded. The AI bubble is not the LLM bubble.
>Palantir has already been used to kill people in gaza
By who?
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>>535302298
>>535302425
>>535302892
Hating Palantir is brown coded
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>>535304519
No.
Quality of life has been going down the past 80 years despite gdp going up.
Gdp is one of the least useful metrics for tracking quality of life.

I'll put it very simply for you
Palantir might make line go up but happiness goes down. Trust goes down.
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the scariest thing about palantir is that hackers could possibly use such a tracking/control grid to exterminate niggers :(
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>>535304757
I don't know, I'm living a pretty happy life in my opinion. Maybe you're just being a retarded doomer because it's apart of a huge trend that drives these qualitative metrics down. This is totally not associated with social media scaring everyone into believing the surveillance state and higher GDP = impending doom to all of happiness.
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>>535304647
you're pretending not to understand, which is a shill strategy.
>"if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters
-hitler

you're also doing pilpul.

and its not a class war analogy whatever the fuck that means. here you are trying to associate me with leftism. another shill tactic.

my point is simply this
>power is physically addictive, just like cocaine
>the "elite" ie the people in power, its not "class warfare" to admit there are people in power, are the junkies. they are addicted to power. like junkies they develop a tolerance and need more of what they are addicted to in order to satisfy their addiction because thats how addictions work
>palantir is a drug dealer selling them the drug of actually being able to use all those fancy surveillance systems they installed but dont have the compute or systems to monitor completely, yet.

you were saying don't blame palantir, blame the government. palantir is the drug dealer selling potent drugs to the worst people who absolutely will overdose and cause serious damage on those drugs. so yes, i will blame palantir. i will not like palantir just as i dont like fentanyl dealers, im not only going to blame the addicts.

whatever vague shitty point you're trying to cryptically make with your gay question game abour oregons drug laws or whatever is irrelevant to the point i'm making, which you absolutely will continue to pretend not to understand, because shills always double down and pathologically cannot argue in good faith
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>>535304819
I live in a country that has cctv rates on par with fucking china.
Do I live in a high or a low trust society?
Fact is cameras make a LOWER trust society. When you see an area full of cctv cameras you dont think
>Oh this area is super safe because of the cameras
You think
>This must be a dangerous shithole if they have so many cameras.
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>>535302425
They're a new NWO boogeyman (like Freemasons, Jews, Reptilians, etc.)

This one revolves around a conspiracy that autismo tech billionaires are trying to accelerate humanity into a singularity.
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>>535302298
>pic
It scans you either way. No face? No problem. It scans your height, your build, your stride, your clothes, your mannerisms, lists the time and date, then compares them to info it has on you without your shitty getup cause you gotta eventually appear in public without it. And if somehow you don't? Not a problem. It excludes everyone that's already scanned this way, cross referencing the aforementioned known info to see if anything matches. If not, it flags you as one of the remaining unscanned. So either way you're in the database. Enjoy.
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>>535304880
I can already say the analogy is well within our situation, it's just an extremely limited view of it. Our freedom and happiness is not purely associated with "the sellers, the dealers, the drugs."
>power is physically addictive, just like cocaine
You'll need the money for the addiction. Where does it come from?
>you were saying don't blame palantir, blame the government. palantir is the drug dealer selling potent drugs to the worst people who absolutely will overdose and cause serious damage on those drugs. so yes, i will blame palantir.
Blame fentanyl, regulate its precursors, unleash the nitazenes!
>>535304883
Surveillance isn't necessarily about trust, they certainly trust plenty of our data. We still have private lives from each other, just not against the five eyes (except for flock security, they've done a terrible job at securing their cameras).
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>>535304903
read >>535302964
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>>535304897
how is it a conspiracy? they literally and openly state the intended goal is to accelerate into a singularity. which isn't necessarily a bad idea, it could play out for better or worse, there's a lot of potential. they are all racing to create agi which they assure us every few months could be just a few months away and they say asi will be around the corner from that. and that their ais will become so capable they will code their own successor ais that in turn will code even more powerful ais, which is the technically definition of the singularity.
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>>535304750
and supporting palantir is very chink coded
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>>535305084
Not really, chinks don't even want to let their people watch movies with rich people in them. Even if they have better scale, they're still a worse surveillance state than us. The UK especially was worse, puts it into perspective the fact that their capabilities that don't even make up 10% of ours.
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The Russians should have sent that tranny to get gibbed in Ukraine before it got the chance to move here.
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>>535305168
Xhe'd be surprised that heckin' Palantir is being used to fight the russians
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>>535305050
>Our freedom and happiness is not purely associated with "the sellers, the dealers, the drugs."
ok and? literally all i'm saying is a dont like fentanyl dealers, and i dont like palantir for the same reason. im just explaining why i dont like them, thats it.

>You'll need the money for the addiction. Where does it come from?
from the taxpayer. who can't vote to stop it because all the candidates in their elections are compromised by the deep state in some way.

>Blame fentanyl, regulate its precursors, unleash the nitazenes!
ok fine. do that. i'm still going to hate the drug dealer. im still going to blame the drug dealer, and the junkies, and everything else involved. duh

>surveillance isn't necessarily about trust
two can play a gay questions game.
do you think a panopticon is a high trust society?
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>>535305220
The hospitals sometimes use fentanyl and barbiturates to put people into comas, but sure, let's remove it completely. The compound pharmacies are drug dealers to hate.
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>>535302472
Is this the new optimized sale angle that your AIs have wargamed as most likely to win over dissidents?
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>>535305324
>sale angle
Palantir is not an LLM service. Please don't be retarded.
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>>535305050
>Surveillance isn't necessarily about trust
It decreases interpersonal trust inherently.
>We still have private lives from each other, just not against the five eyes
Just not against the most evil people in our society, the epstein squad.
>Flock security got hacked
ring doorbells are regularly hacked, and amazon is facilitating making sure everything is always connected to the internet using bridge devices like alexa and ring doorbells for amazon sidewalk
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>>535305355
I mean selling maximized surveillance state to the public, not a literal sale you mong
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>>535302425
They caught Jeffrey Epstein, stopped foreign lobbyists ruining American democracy and they also identified that Iran was planning a nuclear attack in your home town in two weeks. Now they're saving the world by helping DoW fight a religious crusade against Iran. They need more tax money and tbqh they deserve it.
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>>535305146
and every decade the gap between what we're doing and what china is doing shrinks. we become more like china every year. our leaders wish they could do what china is doing now but they know they have to boil the frog slowly on that.

>>535305258
it's a fucking analogy about why i dont like palantir. because they are like a fentanyl dealer selling the hard drug of power to the "elite" who are junkie addicts for such power, when we all know what they're going to do with that power and dont like it.

what is even your point? that because spying on everyone has some positives that the negatives don't exist and aren't a concern? that palantir is so essential and important that we should let them do whatever the fuck they want and not even complain about it when they should be heavily regulated and strictly controlled because they clearly dont have the morality to refuse selling their drugs to the most dangerous addicts? dont remove fentanyl precursors from those rare emegency hospital situations, just make sure the fentanyl never leaves the hospital and come down hard on it when does. target the buyers and the sellers and the whole fucking system until it is contained only to where it is strictly needed.

i dont fucking like fentanyl dealers, whatever i say, im not going to start liking them. and i dont like palantir sorry, they're thugs selling junkies hard shit and it ruins the neighborhood.
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>>535305371
No, the lack of interpersonal trust is what creates the panopticon. If you cannot entrust things to have a truthful source of information, then the rich elite is gonna have to use trial and error to eventually find a way. Nations and economies are competing with how truthful their sources of information are. If there are less truthful sources of information, you have less power. You said that Palantir goes hand in hand with power, how would power work out for us if one nation gives up on truthful sources of information at scale? I don't deny that having no privacy is an uncomfortable facet of our lives, but what's an even more uncomfortable idea is how our information is being dealt with. By that point, I care a lot about HOW people are dealing with my information, which makes me glad I don't live in the UK, or China, or the middle east, or the DPRK.
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>>535302425
Child pornography mapping and collection. CEO Alex Karp reportedly has amassed the world's largest collection.>>535302472
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>>535305515
>that the negatives don't exist and aren't a concern
No, there are still negatives. My concern is how much the negative exists with the given situation we have. It could be far worse, and yet our freedoms have still been respected much more than other countries who have the same capability. What would this tell you about surveillance, other than "it always leads to active oppression"? It clearly does not.
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>>535305531
>No, the lack of interpersonal trust is what creates the panopticon
Incorrect, its created by the state apparatus to silence critism of israel.
Its a lack of trust in the government that causes the government to chimp out and secure its own power in more desperate attempts to control everything.

Alex carp is a jew
Palantir is jewish to its core.
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>>535305598
>Incorrect, its created by the state apparatus to silence critism of israel.
I criticized Israel earlier in the OP, and many other times in my life you fucking mongrel. Where is my arrest? Don't forget your country is a different story, not mine. Hopefully things get better for you in that shithole island, by the way.
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>>535305663
You guys still have free speech for now. Your frog has to be boiled in that way more than ours.
Its interesting that the supposedly free speech Trump admin was talking about hate speech tho. All because people wont join him in swallowing jew cum
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>>535305531
why would anyone be truthful when they know they are watched at all times? lack of interpersonal trust, how about a government that doesn't trust its people and in term a people that cant trust their government. and the chilling effect on free speech causing everyone to walk around on eggshells and withhold their thoughts and ideas from each other. you can never trust anyone because you'll know they're only doing and saying what they need to to stay out of trouble. there is no truth in a panopticon, you just force everyone to be fake.

>what if china spies on its people and we dont, then china wins
wins the game of their power addict junkies overdosing and wrecking their society faster

>>535305595
they're junkies. they're not going to be restrained. they will overdose if you give them the drugs. they will not be reasonable or respectful. power is physically addictive, literally, actually physical addiction just like a hard drug. they pretend to respect our freedoms while slowly stripping them away every year. knowing they dont have the luxury of a tight and docile asian peoples that expect to get the boot anyways, so they have to take it easier on the surveillance then they would like to, for now, until the data centers and systems are in place to where they can flip the switch and instantly create a total ai surveillance stats and by then it will be too late to stop it. how do i know? because junkies are junkies and addiction works the same whatever the addiction.
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>>535305719
Free speech rights are barely useful anymore. Social media algorithms keep people walled off from being ideologically challenged extremely effectively.
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>>535305772
>>535305961
Remember what I said earlier, how the elite doesn't go against people who are actively a threat to them? It's the reason why the sentiment of >>535305719 means nothing, because it's a retarded piece of JQ derangement syndrome. Freedom of speech is an anarchy of speech, something that the "tyrannical" government sometimes needs to wield their power against. You can't say fire in a movie theater if reasonable people believe you, but you can say it if it has no effect at all. It's the reason why everyone who blames Jews for their expired milk are, by sheer succession, completely retarded. I wonder why bUu62EDE thinks everyone is fake under a surveillance state.
>>535305772
>they're junkies. they're not going to be restrained. they will overdose if you give them the drugs. they will not be reasonable or respectful. power is physically addictive, literally, actually physical addiction just like a hard drug
People don't get dependent on barbiturates after a coma, retard. Let's stop using drugs for surgery because HARD DRUUUGS OOUUHH I HATE DRUGS SO MUCH
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>>535305961
They also get around it by just letting companies fire people for speech said outside work, so even if the government doesnt censor them their employeer will.
This sort of stuff will also end up being used in credit scores like china before long.
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>>535306064
>Remember what I said earlier, how the elite doesn't go against people who are actively a threat to them?
Meant to say
>how the elite doesn't go against people who are NOT actively a threat to them?
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>>535302425
g had a link >>>/g/108844007 interesting thats its a Iraqi that shill for Palantir.
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>>535306064
>Hate speech is okay now because the government needs to weild power.
>Even uses the tired leftist fire in a cinema argument.

You glow
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>>535306072
>They also get around it by just letting companies fire people for speech said outside work
That's not new. Businesses will fire you if they find out you're a cunt, because it reflects badly on them. Normal business behavior.

Social media echo chambers are a serious issue, though.
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>>535302298
Karps vehement Israel support is one issue. His disdain for humanity is another.
Fuck Palantir. No good company will be had with a man like that around.
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>>535302472
>they aren't going to nitpick and rape you for violating a minor law just because they have an intense surveillance apparatus
yes they are faggot how many times does shit have to play out before you realize those in power always have a incentive to fuck you over just for their pleasure? Once you have all the money in the world getting the power to fuck over random nobodies is the biggest high you can get.
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>>535306153
Its another method of reducing free speech, it not being new doesnt change this.
You think its okay because its been normalised already.
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>>535305961
but it still isn't enough for the power junkies in charge. they need MORE and MORE, they can never rest, they need to chase the high. the power that comes from social media manipulation is one they will develop a tolerance for, then they need to up the dose to something harder. total ai surveillance state. we will own nothing and live in pods eating bugs while a palantir powered ai camera pointed at us at all times makes sure we don't say or read anything naughty that will lower our social credit score and reduce ubi benefits through the cbdc. total information control.
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>>535306304
>>535306250
>>535306285
Have sex with each other, I'm going to sleep comfortably.
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>>535306064

>I wonder why bUu62EDE thinks everyone is fake under a surveillance state.
i already explained why here >>535305772
and you are only pretending not to understand

you are so incredibly buthurt about the drug addiction comparison because it is SPOT ON
>power is physically addictive like hard drugs
FACT
>with addiction to hard drugs (or power) a tolerance develops and one needs to keep increasing the dose
FACT
>palantir in this analogy is the drug dealer selling potent dangerous "drugs" ie power to the worse possible junkies (the "elite") who we all know will absolutely abuse that power

this comparison is BEYOND APT
it is the aptest thing you've ever heard. apt af
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>>535306285
It's not really a meaningful suppression of speech, though, because you aren't entitled to work at a given establishment. If you want to be a cunt without getting fired, go work for someone who doesn't care that their employees are cunts.
>>535306304
Yeah, but they still have to maintain the illusion of freedom. Useless rights are great for that.
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>>535306339
>Glowies last post is to promote gay sex
Typical glownigger.
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>>535306368
FACT: Drugs can be used to help people with medical conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uE_bY85bGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1a6zv1w54A

goodnight anons
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>>535305071
look at the definition of conspiracy.
now stop arguing with NSA boomers and cut them off entirely, or cut their throats. its looking like we will have to kill these corrupted old men.
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>>535302425
Palantir literally drops a full political manifesto a month ago and you niggers just go and forget about it. It's like you are TRYING to be cattle.

https://twitter-thread.com/t/2045574398573453312

Translation:
1. Ruling over you plebs is our duty.
2. Fuck Apple for thinking otherwise.
3. We deserve to be forgiven for anything we do because we increase the GDP.
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>>535306448
4. We must be omnipotent.
5. If we don't use AI to rule over you, someone else will.
6. All of you plebs must be ready to die for us at any moment.
7. Did I already say we must be omnipotent?
8. We deserve to be payed billions of dollars.
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>>535306378
It is.
You think that its fine that your employeer owns you.
I said outside of work, not while you're there wearing their uniform on the clock.

If your employeer can fire you and then do their best to reduce your chances of getting another job somewhere else. Then yes it is a significant reduction in free speech.
Its why people even need places like this to say things semi anonymously. Or why half of the right is anime girls.

You're fine being a slave
Other people arent.
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>>535306468
9. We can be as degenerate as we want because we also deserve that.
10. Aren't we so generous, sacrificing ourselves to rule over you?
11. We have no enemies, only good servants and bad servants.
12. AIs > nukes. And we own the AIs.
13. We rule over you because we earned it.
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>>535306482
>You think that its fine that your employeer owns you.
They don't own you, you can quit your job and work somewhere else.
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>>535306487
14. Unlimited power = peace, so you'd better give us unlimited power.
15. Germany and Japan haven't fought a war in a while, we can fix that.
16. Stop laughing at Elon, he deserves to rule over you.
17. Total mass surveillance will fix crime. Don't you hate crime?
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>>535306503
18. Again, you MUST forgive us, we are better than you.
19. Everyone sucks dick and touches children, you are bad for pointing it out.
20. Also, we are your religious leaders now.
21. Our culture is good, your culture is bad.
22. You only need our culture.
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>>535306410
>pretending he doesn't understand the point i made
>irrelevant pedantic nitpicking pilpul presented as a slam dunk argument where its really just deliberately missing the point
you are arguing in bad faith and i'm calling it out

palantir should stick to the helping hospitals then and stop selling domestic surveillance to "elite" power junkies.

imagine if i went around throwing pies in peoples faces and you asked me to stop would i say "ah but sometimes i feed the homeless with these pies so that means you have to take this pie" then i honk and you get pie in the face
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Yo check dis out
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>>535306501
Companies share data.
People get blacklisted for hatespeech.
>Just get another job with the same chains.
You're a willing slave. What you're defending right now is cancel culture.
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>>535306522
Full pic, hopefully someone else will remember to fucking POST it sometimes.
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>>535302298
>They at least do not, and could not, have access to all of it at scale
Bullshit. Were you awake during the GWOT? Have you ever heard of PRISM? Mass surveillance is the name of the game in this hellhole. Working with the government, especially under circumstances so incredibly opaque, must necessarily imply that they may well have access to massive amounts of data. Your instinct to think for yourself and to form your opinions is admirable, but you shouldn't fall too far into oppositionalism.

You are currently arguing that we, as a people, should blindly trust the shadowy tech company with extensive contracts with the US government run by a guy who says shit like "freedom and democracy are incompatible" and pays cranks like Eric Weinstein to, essentially, poison the epistemic well. Fuck no. You can do all the thinking and researching you want, but at a certain point you have to compare the amount you ACTUALLY know against what you have simply inferred or deduced from incomplete information.
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>>535302298
The real solution is lasers. Camera can't track anyone if its destroyed.
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>>535306583
That's called your reputation. Your reputation matters to employers. They're allowed to discern whether or not your off-work behavior will reflect on the company. This is really normal workforce stuff.
>You're a willing slave. What you're defending right now is cancel culture.
No, I'm defending business owners' right to not hire losers lol
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>>535306814
You can make the exact same arguement for a social credit score.
And im sure you will.
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>>535306854
>You can make the exact same arguement for a social credit score.
Not coherently. A social credit score is a state program. Employers not wanting to hire losers is just how market capitalism works.
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>>535306854
Social credit, that's called your reputation. Your reputation matters to governments. They're allowed to discern whether or not your behavior will reflect on the country. This is really normal nations stuff. I'm defending governments right to not pay ubi to losers lol
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>>535307015
I can't tell what you think your point is.
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>>535302298
finally. an excuse to troon out in public.
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>>535307072
bullshit, you know full well. don't even bother pretending you don't understand in order to make discourse impossible, it's a tired tactic.
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>>535307072
>>535306932
>I will pretend not to understand.
Okay glownigger.
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>>535307182
>don't even bother pretending you don't understand in order to make discourse impossible
You didn't post discourse, you posted a wojak and then replaced words from my post to turn it into a strawman. If you want to post discourse, then I can reply to that with discourse.
>>535307230
I understand your position. I described in my post why it falls apart.
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>>535302298
palantir is going to be total anti semite destruction. you pussies are not going to like it.
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>>535307385
He made your arguement for a social credit system.
Your attempt to deflect was just "nuh uh thats government" which is a meaningless distinction.
Especially when palantir is itself a private company listed on the stock market.
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>>535307462
>He made your arguement for a social credit system.
No, he decided inside of his imagination what my position was, and then typed the contents of his imagination into his text box. Neither of you are making a good faith effort to understand anything you emotionally disagree with.
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>>535302298
Kikes will do anything to avoid responsibility for their crimes
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>>535307620
No he used your exact words about reputation and applied them to the scenario.
You are again just pretending not to understand
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>>535307663
>No he used your exact words about reputation and applied them to the scenario.
No, you can see very clearly that he removed words from my post and added his own, instead of criticizing what I wrote. That's called making a straw man.
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>>535306641
this may be easier to share
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>>535307663
If someone doesn't get what you say, you clarify it to them instead of "You're just pretending not to understand". You are doing a good job making any supporter or skeptic sound more rational, thanks for participating in the delegitimization campaign. Jew jew Epstein! Jew jew Epstein! Jew jew Epstein! If you strawman it enough, your argument becomes more legitimate. Please keep going, this actually benefits us.
>Were you awake during the GWOT? Have you ever heard of PRISM?
Yes retard, read the thread. Palantir still doesn't have access to everything. The US government hosts their system in a way that's disconnected from the internet. Their software is assessed by a trillion security standards that are meant to protect against vulnerabilities. If they held all their eggs in one basket, it would be way too much of a security risk against a large portion of the economy who is adopting their software. They don't fucking host everything themselves, there are already plenty of other backdoors and databreaches the NSA siphons data from. Palantir does not have large data centers to amass your information.
>>535306448
Hi anon, unfortunately their "manifesto" doesn't say everything about how their software works or benefits the economy. You don't back up your claims, just like every other retard here (except for one guy who at least knows a bit about Assange, but still doesn't tackle the topic at hand)
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>>535302298
You worry too much. None of that shit is even real.
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>>535302298
We all know Palantir suck and hate them. Why are you lecturing people who have known for years about something you just considered.
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>>535308050
>Its okay because its not just palantir
We know its not just palantir, we know about prism. Fact is things are getting worse and you are defending it.

>Goes on an unhinged rant on the first paragraph mocking the idea that jews conspire
You arent on reddit, everyone on /pol/ is aware of the jq.
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>>535308319
I did end up changing a few opinions along the way, it just doesn't happen in every thread. The rest usually aren't even suggestible. I've known people who hated Palantir who still studied their system, you have the potential to do the same. But you don't. I don't lecture everyone just to get them to agree with me, I actually do it so people can understand their system better. You could literally tackle your enemy better if you know them better, is this not true?
Do you wonder why anyone who pretends to speak of them can't even fucking tell you what AIP stands for? It's because they only look at stupid articles that serve them a narrative. Usually when I successfully usher someone to delve deep into how the system works, they have a change of mind and realize why people who usually have an unsupportive sentiment are completely shallow and ill informed.
Notice how I didn't deny much of the surveillance state rebuttals.
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>>535307933
>if we give the goyim ubi then maybe they'll forget about epstein island
that's what point 3 is really saying, isn't it?
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>>535308525
or that trickle down economics will work 'for real' this time.
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>>535302472
It's not getting coverage, mostly because the US gestapo takes your phone and can access it freely to scan your social media and kneel on white peoples heads for following them as recently as last week, and they strategically cut internet in areas post-Alex Pretti. you do get disappeared in a rotting cold room where no one can reach you. probably raped and tortured for sport too.
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>>535302298
>I think a lot of the shallow Palantir hate
Stopped reading there. Shut up, Jew.
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>>535302298
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.
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>>535302298
I have an idea how to solve public photos/videos issues, which is a thing humanity never had to deal with.

mandate obligatory AI obfuscation of all faces in any photo/video taken with pleb devices. that fucking easy. there's raw data that authorities have access to, which captures everything, but pleb only sees AI replaced faces with randomized ones, in every video/photo. tech is already there in most phones today.

and if you wanna show up in other's photos/videos you can give a digital consent and that's fucking it. that fucking easy. now you can shit in public and nobody can post you online. problem solved.
also make illegal any device that takes photos/videos without this technology. would solve most issues we're facing today. and again, authorities have access to raw data if need be. problem solved your welcome. just fucking do it
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>>535309455
>there's raw data that authorities have access to
any maybe journalists and shit. you need to be licensed
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>>535309455
>AI obfuscation of all faces in any photo/video
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>>535302373
This, palantir's hackertroons are making these threads to farm replies and see if anyone notices vulnerabilities in their system. Masks are pointless when a satellite has seen you walk out of your house and get into a vehicle, which is registered and tracked.
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>>535302298
Didn't read that wall of text, but this image is retarded. You're a naive nigger if you think glasses and a mask will stop tracking. Facial recognition is one of dozens of identifiers used, and that's just for visual camera identification.
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>>535309894
today's phones with cameras are fucking up human social interactions, in a very bad way. this shit needs to stop asap or we're all going to shit
all this shit started with the iphone
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>>535310480
the problem is more social media than it is smartphones.
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>>535304249
yea 6g can track your micropenis all the way down to the cellular level
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>>535310500
no, it's their ability of capturing images/videos of real people, that starts the whole nonsense.
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>>535310568
That's what cameras do. You don't need a phone to use a camera.
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>>535310568
I understand where your coming from with the normalisation of lack of privacy due to everyone always having a camera on them, altho cctv would create the same effect so as >>535310609 says its cameras in general that do that.

I would argue however that this stuff is more of a expansion of DRM into all spaces, hence the digital verification to use real life objects. Smart devices and iot being pushed aswell as things like
https://lora-alliance.org/
Which will require the digital id drm check.
We also see more and more drm being put into cars.
For example the subscription based heated seats is basically video game on disc dlc
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>>535308050
>their software works or benefits the economy
Ah yes, in the same way importing millions of pajeets is benefiting the economy.

You are shilling for a company that has literally never been profitable even with government gibs until they took a $1 billion US Army contract in 2019.



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