Should've transitioned to renewable energy like Germans.
>>535319833The people in power want to do similar things like France. They want to buy back ("nationalize") all the reactors and people so we have 5 dead reactors 2 working ones and move to SMRs.We are going to pay endlessly.
>>535319833qr? what crisis?
>>535319833Bu- bu- bu- but nucular is le good????
>>535319836Its at least better then relying on Russian gas.
>>535319833>choozstill fucked up
>>535319835 French utility EDF faces hurdles funding $542 billion nuclear plan, auditors say https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/french-utility-edf-faces-hurdles-funding-542-billion-nuclear-plan-auditors-say-2025-09-24/In 2022, France's nuclear fleet almost had to shut down due to high river temperatures which interferes with cooling:As French rivers warm under heatwave, EDF cuts output: https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/040822/french-rivers-warm-under-heatwave-edf-cuts-output?utm_source=chatgpt.comit's over for nuclear geg
>>535319836Do NOT google France vs Germany energy prices
>>535319836No one says but this but astroturfing ledditors. Anyone who spends 2 seconds looking at it objectively realizes nuclear is finished.
>>535319836>Bu- bu- bu- but nucular is le good????Only really good for baseline in countries that don't have a lot of wind & sun or any other renewables and what are we going to do in the winter we will be using more than the sun will give us so batteries aren't going to be completely a solution to that, unless battery becomes just as cheap as paper.>>535319838Absolute frogger moment, they aren't as well designed as the Belgian ones. So we are cooked when it meltdowns.
It's over (it's over)
>have nuclear power plants>"democratically" elected politicians decide to halt investments and regulation of nuclear studies>20 years later>nuclear energy is le bad, we better close them!>please buy russian gas or invest in solar panels made in chinathe absolute rage I get from seeing the European Union decay thanks to our jewish overlords is the only thing that's keeping me alive
>>535319844>thanks to our jewish overlordsNo, (at least in shitaly) this is 100% grass fed retardation especially from b**mers
>>535319833French from France who lives in France here. Article from today.Tltr : French gov massively invests in nuclear energy for decadesSo op said bullshit
The industry has been underfunded for literal decades. Of course we have to pay for it at some point. Nuclear energy is still the best energy source out there, very cost effective, safe and clean. Cope all you want leafoid
>>535319845Who have been watching the telly made by who'm'st?
>>535319846>>535319847You guys have more energy than industry.How come non of these companies move form germany to france?
>>535319848Shitalian b**mers don't need Jews to be scared from le new science thing that might make you ill
>>535319849I don't know, but regarding nuclear energy, it's true that before Covid, France was trying to reduce its reliance on nuclear power despite the criticism. Since Covid and the war, French politicians have said "fuck you" and have started investing massively again in the construction of the latest generation of nuclear reactors. France is going back to full nuclear mode.
>>535319850>Shitalian b**mers don't need Jews to be scared from le new science thing that might make you illNot that anon, what is your opinion about AI?
>>535319839If the french state and the EU allowed EDF to set their own prices there wouldn't be any funding issues.Instead they force it to sell under market value so that germans and resellers can make money off of them.
>>535319833Retarded leaf post of the day
>>535319847>Nuclear energy is still the best energy sourceYou do not understand what is happening. Nuclear is done. It's fair though. What is happening right now is fast and historical.
>>535319852It's going to be a significant factor in accelerating the retardification of the world
>>535319849Because of the dumbass EU marginal pricing system, we have to pay for cheap electricity made by nuclear energy locally at the same price as electricity produced with gas. The whole electricity market in the EU is dragged upwards by gas. We should do the exact same thing as the iberians and just fuck off from the EU electric market altogether, it would give a big boost to our economy
>>535319855>>535319841Hi chink
>>535319855>The economy of Queensland is the third largest economy within Australia. Queensland generated 19.5% of Australia's gross domestic product in the 2008–09 financial year.[6] The economy is primarily built upon mining, agriculture, tourism and financial services. Bro you're talking about a place with no heavy industry in fucking Australia
>>535319833>>535319836>>535319837>>535319841thats racist
Lmao the ""canadian"" bing shilling for renewable energy
>>535319860from todayhttps://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/deutschland-erstmals-seit-2023-wieder-strom-nettoexporteur-a-3f2e8d9b-61b5-452a-bbcf-e39c8a11c53f
>>535319853This shit is so ass, we had a system that worked flawlessly and they fucked it all up to please EU bureaucrats.
>>535319858I just hecking love Russian uranium man!!!>>535319859What is happening now can't be stopped. We are living in interesting times in regards to electricity. https://www.austinvernon.site/blog/expandingenergy.html> Solar PV is poised to change the global energy landscape.
>>535319854>Retarded leaf post of the dayHe's not retarded, he is deceiving.You don't need nuclear if you have that many different climates in your country like the US and the US has oil and gas. Belgium doesn't have this luxury. So we do need nuclear to some degree.>>535319857>Because of the dumbass EU marginal pricing systemThat's Correct, I forgot about that retarded idea.Europe is so over if things don't change. We need less idiot regulation.
>redditspacedidn't read
>>535319840Do NOT google french nuclear energy subsidies
>>535319856>to be scared from le new science thing that might make you ill>It's going to be a significant factor in accelerating the retardification of the world"De appel valt niet ver van de boom."I don't think it's going to save our lives but I don't think it will do that.
>>535319867forget subsidies the frenchcucks themselves could not figure out how much their nuclear reactors actually cost in total. this is not a fucking joke. the whole thing was so obscured they couldn't figure it out and they openly admit this.
Day of the Rake cannot come any sooner
>australcuck who likes nuclearThe most pathetic state. You are a literal solar super power and you shill for pooclear.
>>535319846>faisceaux laserIsn't it "Laseur" in French?
>>535319838it's right next to a river and belgium took part in the project so it's de facto a french-belgian reactorso yeah it makes sense to place it there
>>535319872Best I could do is lasère
>>535319872It's laser too
>>535319833renewable energy lovers when future states develop technology that can hijack weather patterns
>Nuclear and Gas enjoyers when Putin close down the gas and uranium exports
>>535319876As opposed to present day states that can fly 1 kamikaze drone into your reactor and rape the entire electric grid?
>>535319876>futureWhat do you mean here? Can't we do this already to some degree?
>>535319878>As opposed to present day states that can fly 1 kamikaze drone into your reactor and rape the entire electric grid?Well the idea is that we move to SMR.
>>535319878that would be an blatant war crime. at least with weather patterns you can disguise your involvement>>535319879to a very limited amount
>>535319836>nucular is le goodCorrect
>>535319833>Should've transitioned like Germans.
>>535319881>hat would be an blatant war crime.Have you completely forgotten what almost happened just a few months ago or why we are heavily talking about nuclear and green energy to a degree that wasn't happening to much. Yeah many nations don't care about that shit also didn't Ukraine blow up Russian energy systems?
>>535319878when ISIS happened we turned every nuclear site in to an army base
>>535319883>>Should've transitioned like Germans.Yeah exactly they be watching anime school girls then they want to be a girl.
>>535319863What the fuck am I looking at???
>>535319886This.
>>535319884when did ukraine blow up a russian nuclear reactor, causing radioactive spill?
>>535319868It's already happening, you can google it (or ask chatgpt if your brain is already sloppyfied)
>>535319887>What the fuck am I looking at???Before and after picture. of mental retardation.
>>535319887The power of the EU
>>535319863>>535319887
>>5353198891986
>>535319890>It's already happening, you can google it (or ask chatgpt if your brain is already sloppyfied)You mean like find reactionary articles online by legacy media or people who deeply dislike the tech, nah I will actually wait when the technology is no longer a hype and then see what people think about it then. Now it's just al cope regardless pro or anti.People where making the same claim about smartphones, I don't really think it had that much of an effect.I hate this cycle of when a new technology comes out it either brings us to a utopian world or destroys us.
>>535319864do you genuinely believe the french get their uranium from russia? you're even dumber than i thought
>>535319896As the name implies they get it from your anus
>>535319896>do you genuinely believe the french get their uranium from russia? you're even dumber than i thoughtDon't we get it form Africa which many of these nations are becoming Russian aligned?
>>535319898Australia is one of the biggest exporters and much of Africa are former French coloniesif nigs turn to ruzzia or china there's still Australia. and the tech to breed fissile material has existed for over half a century, didn't take off because it just wasn't worth it. no i'm not too worried about the supply anytime soon
>>535319899oh canada is up there as well apparently>Australia holds approximately one-third of the world’s known uranium resources and is the fourth-largest producer globally, generating about $1.2 billion in annual export revenue. All production is exported strictly for peaceful energy generation and medical technology under strict international safeguards.
>>535319898>many of these nations are becoming Russian alignedThat might be starting to reverse. For example, look at recent developments in Mali. The Russian successor to the Wagner group was forced to surrender and retreat from Northern Mali due to the success of the Amazigh rebels, which are rumoured to now be Western-backed. Not looking so hot for the Russia-backed Association of Sahel States (ASS lol). Russia might be able to reassert control if the Ukraine war were to end, but they seem to be too distracted to maintain their overseas neocolonial project at the moment
>>535319901>which are rumoured to now be Western-backed.Wouldn't surprise me the EU is a swamp. Deeply concerning if you believe in the joke that is the so-called "democratic" system they build.
>>535319902>if you believe in the joke that is the so-called "democratic" systemLOL
>>535319833France is the only EU country with any hope of energy Independence. The complete abandoning of nuke by the clearly Russian funded Green parties (they aren't into environmentalism) is the biggest sin of the modern age
>Énergie costs uuh LE MONEY???!?
>>535319833>>535319836I wonder who has cheaper energy, France or Germany?
>>535319906>Energy too expensive? Just force the providers to lower their prices and then subsidize them with taxes afterwards so they don't go bankruptSouthron economic wisdom is truly unmatched...
>>535319904>Russian uranium for your nukes is le anti Russian and energy independent lol
>>535319907Where are the prices of the energy in germany and France? Or is searching for the prices too advanced for U?
Of course a Jeet would be against nuclear energy.
>>535319910Te german flag is also a muslime/paki just like the leaf flag.
reddit troon fantasy thread
>>535319896oh nyo nyo nyo not like t-this! the g-germans were supposed to be wrong! how can this be happening? nuclear was supposed to be the future! s-shut up chang! pajeet!
>>535319913Cam You post your hands with a time stamp?
>>535319912shitalians are the most incompetent in the whole of Europe. rich solar resources and what do you do? burn fossil fuels like retards. Northern European Aryan Germans, Danish British are the only ones with any sense in Europe who invest fully into renewables
>>535319913>less than a quarter of the total import
>>535319871they have a lot of uranium thoughever
>>535319909Are you deliberately acting retarded now or is that genuinely how you people think
>>535319916and fyi the french have their own enrichment facilities (would be insane if they didn't). presumably they just buy some from the russians because it's cheaper
>>535319916>I only got a quarter of my income from selling my ass on the street. Ha.
>>535319833Another L for nuclear losersLike, what's up you guys, you dont have rivers in your country LOL L-M-A-0
>>535319887The power of russian propaganda
>>535319922Oh yeah Dutch... your right wing politician chuds wasted a bunch of money into a pooclear "proposal" to delay renewabes. Sad.
>>535319921You guys were supposed to build Paks2 here but you have been fucking around for like 15 years now
>>535319923Sorry I read your flag wrong, its Luxembourgish. You guys have a population of like 10000 and are powered on meme biofuel right? Cool cool.
Geeeg ofc you 4cuckcels would go full auto contrarian once the normies started also liking nuclear, now it's not just a niche chud energy source so you have to switch up your whole deal just to stay zased and gooberpilled.
>>535319918Why do (You) refuse to post the prices?
>>535319863what a weirdly corporate symbol for the country
>>535319920>>535319919not going to repeat myself
>>535319927Renewables adoption is correlated with lower prices. This doesn't matter as other factors affect the end price anyway.
>>535319930Btw just to clarify the subhuman caption is not on my part, it is an edit deconstructing it.
>>535319929Never feed the jeet.
>>535319930you realize solar is also extremely heavily subsidized right?
>>535319833France is broke because of boomers and nafris
>>535319930>Renewables adoption is correlated with lower prices.Its not true jeet-kun, Spain is among the countries that spend the most on "green" energy, and yet we pay more per kWh than in France, now post the prices of kWh in the EU or better post your hands with a time stamp.
>>535319935I posted a chart made by anti-renewables fag that shows Spain has an end user price lower than EU average. What more can I say?
>>535319933these meme graps also don't include the hidden substantial cost of needing backup power plants in case the weather or season (often both) aren't in your favour
this country has 99% renewable energy but the prices are high anyway because it's the state monopoly and the state can charge you any arbitrary price it wants for electricityconsider it another form of tax
>>535319833Nuclear is the only serious form of energyWind and solar are jokes
>>535319913>>535319920Over 95% to 98% of the solar panels installed in France are made in China. Chinese manufacturers dominate the entire global supply chain for solar technology, producing more than 80% of the world's solar modules, cells, and raw materials.The west doesnt need Russia for uranium. Australia and Canada have plenty.
>>535319936>Spain has an end user price lower than EU average.Lmao, You're are a paki/jeet 100% Stop being an illiterate nigger and trying to spread misinformation, here are the energy prices:https://datosmacro.expansion.com/energia-y-medio-ambiente/electricidad-precio-hogaresSSpain and Germany are above the others.
>>535319938if you had the option for hydro it would be retarded not to make use of it
L'atome est dieu
>>535319940Sure, but there's nothing that hard locks solar panels to China. A good portion are manufactured outside China, about 20%, in countries including USA and Vietnam. They are made from abundant materials. Contrast that to geographically hard locked uranium. Solar and Wind can be built from universal materials distributed sufficiently in much of the globe which is what makes them so good for independence.
>>535319833If anyone is wondering this thread was moved from /int/.
>>535319837Yea lets rely on a ressource from a country that wants to destroy us, giving them all leverage without getting any in return, surely nothing can go wrong
>>535319839>nothing happened out of thisgo seethe somewhere lese muhamerde klein
>>535319833Fission and solar is superior. We cannot let the French cucks get fusion we must bomb them and anyone else helping this fusion race for French cucks must be bombed.
>>535319913why aks for unreliable AI shit for well documented information? It's basically "my friend told me that"
>>535319846>le fusion will save us hon-hon-honlmfao fusion is a meme you'll be living in an african hut in 2050 if you are alive
the wind chad marches on>denmark 58% of electrical grid>lithuania 45%>ireland 37%>portugal 31%>uk 30%>germany 28%>uruguay 27%>netherlands 27%>finland 24%>sweden 23%>china 13%>france 10%>usa 10%
>>535320518Wind is good and based for Northern Europe. The problem for Europe is they have poor solar resources. The productivity dips massively in winter, while wind stays more consistent throughout the year. For most of the population throughout the world, solar can't be beat, even accounting for lower winter performance.
>>535320228>Yea lets rely on a ressource from a country that wants to destroy ushe said gas from Russia not from Israel
>>535319863UK government under Maggi thatcher sold of all the publics assets like rail,water,energy and now Labour want to buy them back at hundreds of billions, Yet if they kept them in the first place and invested to keep them updated we would of been better off.its all a scam. btw before we could sell them, we had to invest and update them all ..So wtf didnt we just keep them . i hate government.
>>535319842Maybe you should 'well design' your highways too then Urbanus
>>535320518>windThat boondoggle will never stop failing. The young were a mistake.
>>535319838Just here to prevent a 4th-time invasion by Germany through Belgium. No invasion since 1945, seems working correctly
>>535319844>jewish overlordsGermans at this point are more mongolian than jewish
>>535320991kek
>>535320729Whats the difference?
>>535319839The recapitalization need is because France's reactor fleet is old and the reactors were originally built with a design life of only 40 years.
>>535319922I saw his biography, sounds like a sensible guy.
>>535319839Also, the cuts in 2022 were due to environmental regulations, not due to any technical inability of the reactors' cooling systems to operate
>>535319833rand corp said they would wipe out cheap german energy (gas from russia) then french nuke energy to fuck up EU
>>535319839I bet those were Generation II plants. With gradual upgrades to Gen III+ and IV this problem will be pahsed out of the system. Meanwhile, Germany will continue to experience total Deindustrialization due to lack of (any) cheap source of power.
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>>535319863We only look at results here, not causes. And results say nuke energy is expensive, renewables are cheap. What do you mean government subsidies for renewables? Nuclear is complicated and expensive, historical data has no place in a discussion about government expenditures.
>>535319863This is also the reason why German trains are never on time, BTW.
>>535319833Why has it caused a financial crisis?
>>535319840Do go on, tell us. I haven't payed for electricty in nearly 11 years now. PV + geothermal
>>535319860It doesn't count if you have to sell your goods for a negative price.
>>535319833>Should've transitioned to renewable energy like Germans.all germans are trannys? AGAT? as if AGAT was not, from what I recall, some russian doomsday device......
>>535319846>around 2050Nuclear fusion is a joke: https://thebulletin.org/2017/04/fusion-reactors-not-what-theyre-cracked-up-to-be/
>>535319844>"democratically" elected politicians decide to halt investments and regulation of nuclear studiesWhy would the private sector need public money?What kind of capitalism is this, Leopold?
>>535319872bruh we invented the fucking laser, it's the rest of the world who should call it lazer or whatever
>>535319833>>535333850france deserves this
>>535319839Nigger you are fucking retarded. Nuclear has a more promising future than every just due to the sheer electrical demand from datacenters and AI.You are definitely a jeet. I can just tell by how fucking stupid you are.
>>535319833Maginot_Line_2.0.zip
>>535319864solar is nice and all but with silver doing a x4 in price it's not as cheap as it used to to produce panels. Might give the chinks cold feet in the near term, at least until silver spot cool off a bit. Especially considering the latest gens requires much more silver than it used to.
>>535334436The data center people do not consider nuclear a real option. Their number one metric is time to deploy. In the west, this is 10 years for nuclear. Even if they steamrolled everything unregulated, they are at best halving that. It's a non starter for them. Gas turbines are the most effective method for them right now. They can deliver enormous power, on smallest amount of land, in a short time.
>>535334791New solar panels do not use much silver. Indium is more under constraint. But this is less an issue than uranium.
>>535334569France is legit the worst country to protect in the world. Open to 2 seas + 1 ocean + 5 borders on flat land + stuck at the crossroad between west + north + south Europe.In a way it's a miracle this country ever existed in the first place. And by miracle i mean extreme violence for millenias.
>>535335051Should really try to create a situation where Britain is a strong natural ally rather than constantly trying to pick a fight with them
>>535319839>DOOD OH MY FUCKING GOD ITS HAPPENING>boilerplate issues that come up naturally just operating nuclear power plants fucking pol
>>535335154Sorry but my history books all hinted at you starting shit every time and us having to deal with your autism.
>>535335302That would be the French side of the storyUnfortunately at this point the UKs European policy is firmly set in trying to prevent a united europe Mainly because any time someone controls most of Europe they attack the UK
>>535320785JUST FUCKING STEAL THEM; THEY MADE THEIR MONEY ALREADY; STOP BEING A FUCKING FAGGOT; ITS NOT STEALING IF ITS YOURS;> but the jewish lawmakers said its illegal to steal your own shithang anyone who disagrees unironically. and hang your fuckin gov already they re literally genociding UKTOTAL EU REVOLUTIONTOTAL GLOBOHOMO DEATH:)
>>535319836the true red pill is that both Nuclear and Renewable are Based and have their advantage and disadvantages but politicans can decide on a course and the constant back and forth between renewbale and Nuclear just creates needless chaos and fucks everyone over
>>535337958Nope. Nukecuckery is completely pointless. Best course is to go all in on renewables.
>>535335302> États du duc de Bourgognevs.> États du duc de BourgogneNever trust anybody, not even your own états.
