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A peer-reviewed paper published last year in the journal Bioethics by two professors at Western Michigan University School of Medicine argues that it is "morally obligatory" to genetically engineer ticks to spread alpha-gal syndrome, a permanent condition that makes you violently allergic to red meat.

The paper is called "Beneficial Bloodsucking."

Their argument: if eating meat is morally wrong, then preventing the spread of a disease that forces people to stop eating meat is also morally wrong. Scientists should gene-edit lone star ticks to enhance their ability to carry alpha-gal syndrome and expand their range into urban environments to infect more people.

They call this a "moral bioenhancer." They frame releasing genetically modified disease-carrying ticks as a "vaccination" that only "infringes" on your bodily autonomy rather than "violating" it. The distinction, apparently, is that a tick bit you instead of a government official holding you down.

Alpha-gal syndrome is not mild. The CDC estimates up to 450,000 Americans are already affected. Cases have surged 100-fold in the last decade. Symptoms include anaphylaxis. There is no cure.

https://philpapers.org/archive/CRUBBS
https://x.com/TFTC21/status/2054584735012401339
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>peer reviewed
by who? A marxist priest?
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>>535348817
>Marxist
Youre just using that to mean "thing i dont like" and have erased its actual meaning.
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>>535348817
Are you unironically suggesting that alpha gal syndrome is somehow heckin' trad and based? What the FUCK are you even saying, fucking Austrian retard.
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>>535348875
Critical Theory is Marxian.
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if i become allergic to red meat im going on a shooting spree in minecraft, and i WILL be successful
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>>535349082
>Marion County man strikes fear again!
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>>535349082
No you wont. You will come here and post some fashwave laser eye badass skull mask stormtrooper images and talk shit and then you will go to work in the morning/wake up and goon.
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>>535348938
Are you retarded? What is "trad and based" about Marxism?
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>>535349246
Yeah only leftist have the gall to do anything, taking hrt, transitioning and then shooting up a children's school is the only way to stick it to the man, man
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>>535348875
Why are you derailing your own thread? What kind of psyop is this?
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>>535348755

Is this real?
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>>535348755
Someone should write a bioethics paper about how it's morally obligatory to kill anyone who thinks it's ethical to use pathogens or parasites as instruments of social policy.
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>>535349541
Yeah but only if you can prove it didn't came from bugs.
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>>535349410
How is that derailing? Its fucking grating to have EVERY single "bad thing" have to be preface as "marxist" or "communist" when it has fucking nothing to do with it.

These people are psychopaths that want to kill your because their cult says the sky will fall if they dont. An economic model from the 1800s has nothing to do with this.
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>>535349678
Because every anti-Western, anti-traditional, and simply just blatantly subversive and disruptive idea that comes from the left is rooted in Marxism. This includes your radical idea of forced (through bioengineered terrorism) veganism. Basically I need you to kill yourself immediately.
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>>535349678
It's highly likely and would not be coincidental or irrelevant if the authors and reviewers were Marxists.
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>>535349960
Every single militant vegan is a leftist, so there's no way it isn't related to Cultural Marxism.
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>>535349435
yes written by someone with a BS in philosophy and a PhD in philosophy from random state schools. Now you know who was targeted when dictators arrested "academia"
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>>535348755
It's morally obligatory to kill these bio terrorists and their families
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>>535349861
>your radical idea of forced (through bioengineered terrorism) veganism.
Are you an actually mentally retarded person? Why the fuck do you think I am for this alphabet spreading shit?
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>>535348755
thankfully, there ARE scientists who spoke out against this shit and are rightfully pissed:

https://philpapers.org/rec/EBEWII
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>>535348755
Sounds like these two should be arrested for inciting terrorism.
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>>535350311
Anyone who gets upset about cultural marxism getting called out is a cultural marxist. I've been dealing with you freaks for 20 years now. You can't fool me.
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>>535348755
Not wrong desu
Animal eating really is despicable
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Why aren't these faggots dead already? Why isnt the beef lobby doing anything?
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>>535350465
All of leftism is impotently railing against biological reality.
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>>535350654
Tell it to a leftist. Not eating animals is also a biological reality but it's healthier and not scummy behavior
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>>535351336
Vegetarianism is not healthy, jeet.
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>>535351336
Eating plants is stupid.
We are the APEX predator of this stupid planet
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>>535348755
so this is what the /lit/izens have been up to
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>>535351713
Boggles me noggins that we can have hammer-wielding pedo hunters but these faggots get away with practical murder.
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>>535349435
this is the result of kant and descartes and calvin and marx and freud and centuries of apostasy and decades of infanticide and adultery
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>>535350328
I would add that inducing alpha gal syndrome through wild ticks is also unethical because you don't know who is going to get bit and what pre-existing conditions they have (e.g if they can't eat much fruit, vegetables or grains).
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>>535348755
The authors:
https://med.wmich.resoapps.com/RA102662-Parker_Crutchfield/biography/index.hml
https://wmich.edu/ethics/directory/hereth-blake
I want a serious discussion here to determine which one is top and which is bottom.
Proceed.
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>>535351336
I never understood the muh animal debate.
The fertilizer that enables an abundance of plant growth contains animal byproducts. Bone meal, blood meal, feather meal, fish meal, fish emulsion, etc are all critical parts of fertilizer. There is no escaping from having some part of an animal in the food you consume.
Also, if you fall into the muh animals have feelings camp then so do plants. They may not audibly scream how animals can but they do have detectible signs of stress and pain.
Fact is humans are animals. We have higher levels of intelligence and associate certain things together with stories we tell each other in a way that other animals cannot. That causes us to have strong feelings over consuming other animals. It is just your brain telling you that you shouldn't eat an animal based on what you were taught in the past or foundational experiences you had when you were young. At the end of the day if you had not eaten for 2 weeks and had the choice between continuing to starve or eating meat then I think we both know what decision you would make. If anything you should use your veganism as a sign that you are only capable of making that decision due to the strength and power of humanity.
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>>535351404
>leftism
>jeet
string of good arguments, tard
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>>535351575
not so apex
humans are designed to eat mostly plants. even chimpanzees eat 98% plants, other apes even more. yes, humans can use their brain relatively well (in some cases) - for example to understand that eating plants is the best choice for them
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>>535350465
>>535351336
>>535353092
>>535353260
Nothing wrong with killing animals for food, you shrivel-brained vegetarian retard.

1. There is nothing inherently wrong with eating meat.
2. There is nothing inherently wrong with killing (i.e., truncating the life of) an animal for food.
Neither of those actions is "cruelty". That's a false conflation. It is easily debunked by rational analysis.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7VOYusr7EcA
These beasts are given a good life. Far better than almost any other animal on the planet.
From the day they're born, they're kept well-fed, protected, and cared for. They socialize with their herd. They're content. They're in their element.

One day, the beast is out on the field. It's a day like any other. The sun is shining. The breeze is blowing. The grass is good.

And it just ends.

Instant death. Instant loss of consciousness. Only unconscious spasms.
No stress. No pain.
The beast never even saw it coming. Nor could it understand.

Good life. Instant death. Just like that. And they provide nourishment for the creative and rational activities of human beings, the highest form of life on the planet.

It's a symbiotic relationship.

>But what about places that mistreat them? What about places that slaughter them improperly?
Motte-and-bailey. Doesn't address the core issue. To reiterate:
1. There is nothing inherently wrong with eating meat.
2. There is nothing inherently wrong with killing (i.e., truncating the life of) an animal for food.
Any other issues are distinct issues. They don't contradict these facts.
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>>535353260
>>535353092
>>535351336
>>535350465
Eating meat is good.
Eating meat is what made humans intelligent.
Meat is a high-quality food source.
Meat is very nutritious.
There's nothing wrong with killing animals for food.
Animals don't have a so-called "right" (from where?) to life.
The very idea is preposterous.
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>>535350465
>>535351336
>>535353092
>>535353260
There is no serious paleoanthropologist who argues that humans could have grown these brains on a raw, wild-plant diet. It is biologically impossible.

The Nutrients: Vitamin B12, heme iron, and specific fatty acids (DHA/EPA) required for brain tissue are found most readily in animal products.

The Anatomy: We have the small intestine of a carnivore and the cecum (where fibrous plants are fermented) of... well, almost nothing. It’s tiny. We are evolutionarily "designed" to let other animals do the fermenting for us, and then we eat the energy they’ve concentrated.
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>>535353260
>>535353092
>>535351336
>>535350465
>From a purely energetic and biochemical standpoint, it is virtually impossible to see how the Homo genus could have evolved a brain of our size without animal tissues.

>The Energy Gap: Raw, wild plants are extremely low in calorie density. To get the 2,000–2,500 calories a day required to run a "high-wattage" human brain and body, an ancestor would have to spend roughly 9 hours a day just chewing, similar to a gorilla.

>The B12 and Fatty Acid Wall: The brain is roughly 60% fat. Specifically, long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids like DHA are critical. While we can convert plant-based precursors into DHA, the conversion rate is incredibly inefficient. Accessing pre-formed DHA through animal sources (brain, marrow, fish) provided the raw materials that plants simply couldn't.

>The Gut Evidence: We have the fossil evidence of a transition from a broad, flared ribcage (indicating a massive, fermenting "gorilla-like" gut for fiber) to a barrel-shaped ribcage and narrow waist. This is the physical signature of a species that switched to a high-quality, low-volume diet—which, in a pre-agricultural world, meant meat and fat.
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>>535348817
Obviously. You haven't realized that jews have captured academia post-WWII after the marxist victory?
That's why you can't do real sciences like racial science anymore and you have pseudosciences like marxist feminist theory in its place, where "race is a social construct" and how there is only "one human race".
Pre-WWII it was completely normal and mainstream to study different races as essentially different animals. Modern "science" pretends that cats are dogs and men are women and jews and niggers are human.
It's so extremely destructive to humanity too because all of the nonsense that modern (((academia))) puts out handled by jewish censors, that the whole western world is turning anti-scientific and "trust the basedience" has become a meme, rightfully so, because everything is jewish and marxist now.
The problem here is that what used to be hard science that put humanity forward was a White man's endeavour, but its been corrupted by jews and niggers who make "science" about how White man bad and actually niggers and jews are good to have in a society. Its all bull and people have been finally noticing but destroying and corrupting something that used to be a force of good is one of vast array of jewish crimes against humanity.
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>>535353260
do you understand the food web, retard?
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>>535354326
I think the problem here is though that we're needlessly wasting precious resources like meat on jews, niggers and jeets, because their brains are still unevolved compared to White humans and it'd take hundreds of thousands of years for them to catch up we can't really speedrun their evolution and make them human even if we work hard and use half of our productivity to feed them like we do now. They should be sent back to their own homes to live and Whites should keep the productivity to help ourselves instead.
See, even if we feed them and the nigger brain continues to grow, so does White man's, so they will actually never catch up, until we artificially do something like allow them into territories and race mix with them bringing the White man's cranial capacity down to meet their level, but that would be essentially destroying the White race by miscegenation to appease jews and its brown kin.
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>>535348755
I live in a dry ass desert, good luck tick niggers
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Ticks can't git ya if ya don't leave the house or your car!
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>>535348755
DEATH JABBERS FOR GLOBOHOMO
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>>535349678
If you actually read a "peer reviewed bioethics journals", it's always full of citations of Marx or full of citations of people writing about Marx.
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>>535350442
Well said
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>>535348755
This journal is relx which came from pergamon press (robert maxwell) -> eslevier -> reed elsevier -> relx

These journals a propaganda arms shilling for pharma .



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