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Is it because the USD is the global reserve currency?
The petrodollar system?
Forcing NATO member states to buy their overpriced defence industry products?
US Intel agencies stealing intellectual property for the benefit of the USA economy?

I refuse to believe that Americans serve the salaries they get.
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Uh oh hes onto us
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>>535358464
Duh, we print the money.
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You need an address to have a savings account I think
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Median salary in the US is $60K. That is paycheck to paycheck. Hand to mouth.
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>>535358542
You can give them an address if a homeless shelter. Bank of America specifically doesn't give a fuck. And the shelters will hold your stuff for some time. Besides, you can become homeless while already holding an account which many do
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>>535358464
Jews always win. The USA stands with Jews and Israel, the USA wins by extension.
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>>535358547
Meanwhile, the median income for Kazakhstan is $8,400 a year.
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>>535358464
Something like +70% of americans literally live paycheck to paycheck. They are also in MASSIVE debt. They "own" their house through a 30-40 year mortgage. They "own" their cars through loans with high interests. They "own" their iPhone by paying it off in installments whenever they can. Up towards 40-50% of these people earn near $100k and literally still report living paycheck to paycheck.

It is so bad that the vast majority of americans literally can't go to the dentist or the doctor if they expect that they'll receive a $500-$1000 emergency bill, because it would permanently ruin their finances. Most americans are fake "rich".
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>>535359014
Oh and I forgot to mention a huge one, student loan debts. The total student loan debt right now in the US amounts to $2 trillion. The average is $50k, and the average american doesn't finish paying off their student debt until they are 50 years old.
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every aemrican is stock gambling or sports betting. Only one has a saving account tho
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>>535358547
Nah, it's 35k median. Average is 60k, which is misleading because of the top 10000 billionaires and multimillionaires.
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>>535359014
I looked it up, according to Google, 65% of Americans own homes. Of those 40% are free and clear with no mortgage. In Denmark the home ownership rate is 60% and of those only 11% are owned with no mortgage.
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>>535358464
Don't Germans get neetgeld?
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>>535359657
Are you just going to completely ignore that the stat you mentioned also talks about how 50-60% of those mortgage-free houses are owned by people who are literally aged 65-70? Those are from such a different time that it completely skews the entire thing. That was back when USA was a great empire.
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>>535359788
>no, no, not those statistics
>you have to put it in this narrow context I concocted myself
Yeah, and I'm sure the 11% of Danes who actually own homes are zoomers and not old as fuck.

Also, I should add that Google said most people in Denmark have mortgages because your tax rate is 57%.
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>>535358464

My Peruvian girlfriend's brother who's a delivery driver has $4000 USD in Peruvian Soles by the way, from just saving up.

The actual MEDIAN savings of a 30 year old American is only $5K, which is not even enough for a used car.
>>535359014
It's really no wonder why we are one paycheck away from homelessness:

>In reality, most make like $20/hour
>One third makes $15/hour or less
>Rent is at LEAST $1200/month
>Most of US is colder than Europe (continental vs. oceanic climate) which jams up heating prices
>Need a car
>Since need a car, need car loan since most Americans don't have the cash on hand for a car
>That's $400/month
>Gas: $200/month
>Insurance $200/month
>We have scam employer insurance so need to pay $400/month for insurance that has a $10K deductible

$1200 + $800 = $2400

That's already $2400 needed and not even done, that's more than a comfortable wage in most Euro countries

Meanwhile, I saw a Norwegian couple give a budget, and their expenses for TWO people with an apartment by the sea was only like $30K a year.

>
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>>535360009
>Also, I should add that Google said most people in Denmark have mortgages because your tax rate is 57%.
I don't think it has much to do with taxes, because I know a ton of people who are wealthy and rich and could easily outright buy a house, but they don't want to be tied down to a single place, so they just rent houses instead. When it comes to housing, for some reason we're very rent-focused and most people don't even care about actually owning a house/apartment because having to pay a monthly rent isn't seen as a bad thing, it's just seen as a normal expense.

Also, housing prices here are of course adjusted to the economy and our taxes. Your median listing price per square feet in the US seems to be $230 for existing houses and $150-$300 for new houses. Our seems to be $250 per square feet. You guys can get houses for $300k which would be the equivalent of 2 million DKK, which will buy us a house that's like 1500-2000 square feet.

There doesn't seem to be THAT much difference, except that it's probably much easier for you guys to get new houses simply because you have like 200x the landmass of us.
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>>535358464
They arent
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>>535360605
>The actual MEDIAN savings of a 30 year old American is only $5K
This includes minorities
>median salary for college educated white males 25-34 was $106k in 2024
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>>535360606
In reality, these faggots always mention about the federal income tax rate in Europe vs. the US and never mention that we: HAVE to pay Social Security tax which is like 7%, state income tax which is often like 4%, local income tax which is like 1-2%. WE also have sales tax which is like VAT tax but instead of it being added in already in the price before buying something, it's added when we BUY something. Some states like Tennessee it's like 10%.

So overall, our effective tax rate for wageslaves making $15/hour is only like 2% lower than in Germany, but there they get public transportation and free education and health insurance and shit
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>>535358547
you can eat chicken/eggs, wheat and lentils and spend $1-2 a day on food. electricity is cheap if you take cold showers and cook with cast iron.
>also poorfag with $80k in the bank and growing
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>>535360789
I said MEDIAN savings, not salary, dumbass
>$106K salary
Yeah fucking right. The median salary for Bachelor's degree is only $70K. And it's white women and minorities getting those cushy $100K jobs and not white guys
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>>535358464
it all comes from their daddy's companies. trust me I grew up poor in a rich area.
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>>535360971
Food in the US is some of the cheapest in the world relative to income. People aren't bitching about the cost of food. It's the cherry on top after forking out thousands of dollars a year for student loans to get a job that pays beyond $15/hour. It's how rent even in a shithole is $1200. It's how health insurance for the equivalent of what a Euro gets costs $1200/month. Or forking out $400/month for even a beater car because there are no buses.
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>>535360922
Yeah, it's always a bit funny when people from other countries are like "BUT YOU ARE PAYING 50% TAXES" without actually considering everything we gain from it. We gain cool shit like free education, free healthcare, road maintenances, free libraries, social securities, elderly care, pension funds, 52 week parental leave on birth WITH pay, police, military, public transport, churches, homeless help, etc. etc.

The quality of life the amount of taxes brings back in return is why almost all danes are completely fine with paying the high taxes. Also, when literally everyone pays those high taxes, the entire economy and costs of things are of course also adjusted in accordance.
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Most Americans live in economic precarity. They aren’t exactly poor nor rich. It’s more like they have decent enough income but just enough to cover all expenses and debts. Our saving grace is that our salaries are relatively high and cost of living relatively low. So if you can get off the precarious perch you can save and invest a lot quickly.
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>>535360922
Well, faggot, even the highest tax bracket here (37%) with ss, state (none here in Florida), and local taxes it's still way below Denmark, and their sales tax (vat tax) is 25%. That's for someone making more than $600k a year, for the average American the tax rate is around 20%.
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>>535358464
>1 pbtid memeflag "rich"
it's Debt.
all 160 world nations are, but the U.S. tops them
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>>535360754


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratio
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>>535361304
Yeah lol. Like I said, I remember watching a video of a Norwegian couple breaking down there expenses. They got a apartment by the sea for like $1400/month and they added up their expenses, even going out to eat like 2 or 3 times a week, they still were only paying $30K/year for their lifestyle.

Meanwhile, in this shithole, you can be in bumfuck Nebraska and be single eating rice and beans and still have expenses be more than that.
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>>535358464
I have like $20 in quarters.
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majority of mutts don’t have $500 for an emergency expense, not in cash, not in the bank, not as crypto, not as gold, not as stocks, jewelry, whatever
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>>535361162
I work fast food for less than $15, no loans/debt lol. I pay $650 for rent tho. I'd live in a tent if $1200 was the only thing that's available
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>>535358464
American exceptionalism is real. We are an exceptional people. But the reason will confuse you.

We are not afraid of failure. Europeans and Asiatics are terrified of failure. It comes from a scarcity mindset. If your opportunity is scarce, any failure could be the squandering of your last opportunity.

This is the mindset of the bureaucratic socialist European society. Nobody creates value, they simply shuffle it around via convoluted socialist enterprises. When very little value is ever created, and the vast majority live as a parasite class, you get a scarcity mindset. You MUST ace your bureaucracy exams or you will never get a job shuffling other people’s money around. You MUST get the job in a preferred ministry or you will never get promoted enough to afford a 300sq’ apartment without a washing machine. You MUST go to the best school where old money gets shuffled into grants for you to scramble for like dogs fighting over table scraps.

In America, we are completely immune to the fear of failure. Our wealthiest boomers smoked weed and fucked around for their first 20 years. Our greatest inventors failed dozens of times before the discovery that made them rich. Every part of our society encourages maximum effort by refusing to punish failure.

In soccer, if you take a shot and miss it is a terrible thing. You have wasted a finite commodity, you have squandered the scarce resources. In America, shots on goal are a positive stat, and if you took 20 shots without scoring you should keep on firing away. In Europe, a tie is always preferable to a loss. In America, we would rather lose 99 times and win the last rather than suffer 100 ties.
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>>535361492
You do realize that just as in the US, there's also income deductions in European countries too?? It's also progressive, just like in the US, too???

By the way, we are still getting fucking gipped:

My girlfriend is Peruvian. If you have a formal job there, you even get free healthcare and massive benefits and shit. Guess what though, their tax rate is like 10% less than ours and the threshold for income tax is so high there that most don't even pay income tax, only their pension tax which is like 11%. So you have 2 systems where people are getting more with their taxes than Americans. One is Europe, and the other is literally a "3rd world country".
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>>535361693
>jewelry
stop right there, niggas without $500 to their names are carrying iPhone 20s and designer handbags. then it cracks and gets robbed and they debtmaxx for a new phone and purse
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>>535361822
>You MUST ace your bureaucracy exams or you will never get a job shuffling other people’s money around. You MUST get the job in a preferred ministry or you will never get promoted enough to afford a 300sq’ apartment without a washing machine. You MUST go to the best school where old money gets shuffled into grants for you to scramble for like dogs fighting over table scraps.

Lolololololololololololololololololololol.


What the fuck? You are speaking about the US. Most of Asians' obsession with academics isn't about money either, it's about "proving yourself". In the US, if you don't go to college, you are essentially doomed to a life of minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage jobs. The last one is such a cherry on top, the rich in the US are literally the ones that scam the system.
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>>535358547
That's the median household income. The median salary is ~$40,000. That $60,000 is a man working for about $20 per hour and a woman working as close to minimum wage as jobs actually get in 2026.
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>>535361822
In American media and stories, the loser is lovable. We root for the underdog. And as soon as they win we want them to lose. We want to encourage the losers to keep on trying, though they may likely lose again. Losing is rewarded, effort prioritized. In Europe, people root for the powerful. They cannot take a chance that they are backing the losing side, so they bandwagon on perceived winners. If the winner loses, they are immediately cast aside. The social dynamics are completely opposite.

America is slowly becoming like Europe. Gen Z has been trained to be docile and fearful like the Europeans. They believe that if they don’t get a 4.2 GPA their lives are over before they have even begun. The death spiral is hard to watch, as our exceptionalism fades. Gen Alpha is showing signs of reversing this trend. Abandoning college, abandoning the fears of failure that plague the Gen Z and younger millennials. I have hope that we will avoid the terrible fate of being like Europeans and will be placed once more above all others by embracing our heritage of being the highest achieving losers on the planet.

There is an old concept that Americans believe themselves to be temporarily embarrassed millionaires. It is ment as a snide remark about how stupid we are. But a stupid belief that you are destined for greatness is what is absolutely REQUIRED to actually achieve greatness. And it is why Europeans will never be great again.
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>>535361790
>I pay $650 for rent tho.

I'm surprised. The ONLY place that I see rent that cheap is in rural Alabama and Mississippi. Even other rural shitholes it's like $1200/month and with similar wages
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>>535359333
nah if you have a regular college degree median is 60k for a salary job. if u can't get a college degree you probably can't count to 10
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>>535362139
Dude, American zoomers only are fearful of their grades because the only jobs that are worth it all require college degrees. Trades are a scam and only pay like $18/hour and make you work in the cold and rain with alcoholic druggies. And what else is there? Everything requires le experience.

Believe me, zoomers would not go to fucking college if they had even a fraction of what Boomers had. Except for the women, but gen Z women have it even easier than Boomers had it.
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>>535362044
Unfortunately Gen Z has adopted the European mentality, it is true. But it is only that, a mentality. Thank god Gen Alpha is based as fuck and will make a clean break from the effeminate European attitudes.
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>>535362044
College is a meme, you can make more money not taking out a loan but instead get 20 credit cards and 5 banks and max everything, put everything into Bitcoin. Even if you have boomer parents willing to pay for college, just refuse it and make them will over their money to you after they die. That's my retirement plan. Put everything into diet and exercise and bang your teen coworkers until then. 33 year old HS dropout here
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>>535362307
> American zoomers only are fearful of their grades because the only jobs that are worth it all require college degrees. Trades are a scam
Yes I believe you believe this. You are not exceptional. But thankfully, there is another generation behind you.

Try not to be bitter about the Alpha kids when they own their own trade businesses. You could only see it as working for someone else for a low wage. That is your problem. Exceptional people take the risk to build a business. To take opportunity into their own hands and risk everything, because failure merely means you get to try again.
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>>535362332
I have a college degree now but I bypassed the kike system and did online college with Pell Grant. Ended up costing $330 for everything.

Unfortunately, the kikes are trying to patch it now, it seems, to make Zoomers forced to go to traditional college.
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>>535362165
I live in a spic city and my apt is falling apart and prone to a bug infestation and mold problems without regular upkeep/cleaning. Tent life with slightly more privacy.
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Supposedly most Americans can't afford a $1000 emergency but I'm pretty sure that is just bullshit. If I go out in any shitty town near me there isn't one old car. Not vintage shit like a 2000s Corolla doesn't exist. It's all new cars with payments being made on them
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>>535361826
I'm just looking all this shit up as we go, but apparently the lowest tax rate in Denmark is 32% and the highest is 60% and they have a vat tax on basically every good and service at 25%.

If you earn the equivalent of around 70k US dollars in Pure the tax rate is 30%, but that is thier highest bracket. They have a vat tax of 18%.

Look, I don't care about nor do I want free shit from the government. What I want is for the government to keep it's fucking hand out of my pocket.

This anon >>535361822 is kind of explaining it. I don't want to live in a nanny state. I don't want to pay for others to get free shit, I just want to pay for my shit and be left alone. That's what America should be, get yours or get fucked. People act like America hasn't always been this way. Not to mention we could never have socialist European bullshit here, because the fact is we have too many worthless sacks of shit that produce nothing.
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>>535361826
You're golem niggers. The jew has been exploiting you ever since Masons founded the country in 1776. They have carefully learned over time how to keep the golem from rioting. When a distraction is needed, they shall provide one.
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>>535362737
>I don't want to live in a nanny state. I don't want to pay for others to get free shit, I just want to pay for my shit and be left alone.
But what if something happens to you where you can't pay for it. Let's say for example you become permanently injured, chronically ill, get cancer, need some kind of big surgery, etc. and you literally don't have the funds to pay for it yourself? Should you just become homeless and/or die?
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>>535362737
> I don't want to live in a nanny state. I don't want to pay for others to get free shit, I just want to pay for my shit and be left alone

Dude, our social programs are still stealing from people. Plenty of people work and receive food stamps, but the absolute maximum amount of food stamps you can get is like $200 for one person, many receive only like $70 lol. Meanwhile, they are paying a significant chunk of their paycheck via the FICA tax which will never pay them back in the equivalent services.

>we have too many worthless sacks of shit that produce nothing

It's called Jewish billionaires lol. Even Shaniqua or Christopher the NEET doesn't suck up anywhere near the taxes that Musk and Palantir get.
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>>535362496
College today is a meme. There was a time before the internet when you had to go to a university to gain information. Now, it is completely free and easily accessible online. You can get pretty much any text book online, you have access to the world's library, you can watch lectures on any subject you want on YouTube. Information is now free, and gaining information was the original point of college and education to begin with. Today most college is a participation trophy that tells employers you can jump through pointless hoops. But, if you're going to go the wagie route in life you need that hoop jumping participation trophy.
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>>535358727
Jews always win? What happened to the second temple?
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>>535363040
>many receive only like $70 lol. Meanwhile, they are paying a significant chunk of their paycheck via the FICA tax

And, that is why I suggest we cut out the gibs completely and let them starve in a ditch vs having the government steal from me to feed them.
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>>535362913
My uncle was quite literally living like how the "third worlders" on TV live. He was making $11/hour, his shitty trailer had no heat, he had no running water, it was infested with fleas. He had a bad heart.

They will still operate on you and shit, but your credit score will tank due to not being able to pay the debt (in his case it didn't matter because it would permanently be in the toilet anyway, he was in survival mode). So if something like that happens to you, you might as well figure that you might end up homeless if the apartments around you require a credit check.

By the way, Trump made it so that medical debt wasn't forgivable in bankruptcy, if I remember right. Thanks Orange Nigger!
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>>535362913
Everything revolves around shekels for these people. But when a restaurant offers free refills, they never say
>nothing's free, let me teach you about economics
but they keep refilling like niggers and tell their friends about it. They will go through hell trying to convince you that even partly government owned insurance is VERY bad and borderline communism, but (((private))) insurance is just fine. They're literally that stupid. Don't bother. They have no idea how socialized their private sector is. Lockheed Martin is a great example. Rather than having the non-profit government build Hi-Tech military shit, they outsource it to a (((private))) company that adds profit to the equation. They end up paying more for the same shit their government used to make just fine before. It's a ruse and they keep pushing this jewish narrative in high schools and universities. Of course only the critical infrastructure should be public. Items that are not part of that like cars and tvs and musical instrument should be private.
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>>535363198
Did what I just say go over your head??

They are paying more into the system than what they are getting out of it, dumbass. They aren't stealing from YOU, they are getting their income stolen too, by the actual people the steal everything: billionaires and kikes.
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>>535363344
Public healthcare also actually would help keep costs down with private healthcare options too:

>If private hospital/dentist charges too much, everyone will just go to the public one even if it may be more rudimentary/longer wait
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>>535363344
>>535363539
This is also a good idea for if they would actually want to fix housing prices:

>Build many apartments/houses with public funds
>Make it available to everyone, not just coalburners with 5 niglets
>Make the rent essentially just enough to keep the building maintained
>This will shatter housing prices as private landlords will be competing with this cheap housing
>Less people will take the basic government housing and begin to be able to afford housing that makes sense for their situation
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>>535363426
No, dumbass, most people on gibs do not pay more than they get. Regardless of that, you missed my point. I do not get or want any government gibs, but the government still takes from me to pay for the ones that do. So, yes, regardless of whether or not Sheniqua pays more in taxes than she takes (she doesn't) the government is still stealing from me to pay for the gibs.

>iTs dA bIlLiOnAiRS
Yeah, it is, because they import worthless shitskins who I have to pay to feed. Not because they have a billion dollars. You're not poor just because someone else is rich, comrade.
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Ive got like 250k in tangible assets and 100k liquid but im Unemployed so live in a 5th wheel i got for 1k k
On a rural acre
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>>535363782
>No, dumbass, most people on gibs do not pay more than they get

>Maximum food stamps is $298
>Income cap is $2600 for one person

2600 x 0.0765 = $198

So assuming a single person makes the maximum threshold and still receives the maximum amount of food stamps somehow, they are only costing taxpayers $1200/year.
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>>535364082
I still don't know how all of you fucks say that you have 10's of thousands of dollars when the MEDIAN savings of a 30 year old in the US is $5K. MEDIAN, meaning half have less.

And no, even a job paying $80K and living in a rural shithole will only give you like $15K per year after taxes and expenses And how many rural jobs pay $80K?? More like $20K lol
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>>535358464

They get a market price for everything. Imagine the Neuschwanstein, Fontainebleau or the Colloseum were stocks you could buy on the market. Each one of them is worth as much as an American blue chip company. Europe is full of this stuff and it represents its hidden fortune. While I don't like the idea of capitalizing everythinguUnfortunately, most of Europe's wealth is managed by politicians who keep it to themselves unless they have an opportunistic reason to give some to the masses. The US culture a lot more "democratic" in this regard.
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>>535363782
>You're not poor just because someone else is rich, comrade.

Also, technically no. Real tangible production and resources can be centralized into energy, which is finitely produced. A person making billions of dollars is technically hoarding massive amounts of energy while others have to deal with having much less.
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>>535363539
>>535363678
Unironically that's how it works in Finland and most other Nordic countries. I had private insurance in university but I used their services just a couple times. They're famous for short queues but they have only GPs and certain specialists. They don't have surgery, MRI, or ICU, nor prenatal care. Kids are always born in public hospitals. But if you need a doctor check-up for your driver's license, you just make an appointment with the private doc for next day and pay 50 bucks. Pharmacies are private but required to offer affordable alternatives to expensive medicine. And just like magic, the expensive meds are lowering prices every year. I guess they have some air in their profit margin?

It's the same for public housing, every city has public housing that follows the market demand, I believe it's a percentage of private housing. In practice if there are not enough houses they make enough to meet the demand (and they build them fast, usually over one summer) and when it looks like landlords are coping and seething, they stop building. This keeps the rent prices in check. In residential areas if you buy land you're required to start building within two years or so, or you must sell the land. This prevents jewish landlords from buying land for purely investing purposes.

I can't imagine living in a country where critical infrastructure is owned by private monopolies. Sounds like cartel business to me.
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>>535363337
fleas are a pain in the ass even though they don't live long without a dog or cat - there's a fuckload of them outside so you gotta bleach everything indoors so they don't smell you or your food or your garbage and come in. you can clear an infestation by baiting them into a trashbin and taking it out daily, and then you simply keep trash in your fridge until you take it out.

I also make $11/hr, get no benefits and treat my health as if it's my bank account or top investment, etc. I'll lift weights, hoard supplement powder and drink raw eggs till I die
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>>535364101
>only costing taxpayers $1200/year.
>only costing taxpayers $1200/year.
>only costing taxpayers $1200/year.

And that's per useless eater, you're not helping your point here. Again, I do not get ANY gibs, so making me pay for others is wrong and commie/socialist thieving horseshit.

>>535364216
I probably have $5k stuck in my sock drawer. You fail to realize half the people here are brown and/or retarded.
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>>535358464
Aussies and jew zealanders are richer. Euros are just 3rd world poor...except foe those tiny mountain cunts and the swiss
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>>535364326
Makes perfect sense. In the US, the states require you to have car insurance. Except New Hampshire.

Guess what state has the lowest car insurance premium AND the highest percentage of insured lol?? New Hampshire. Granted they're white and drive well, but still, coincidental...

The US has this weird fence sitting position where we get the worst of both worlds. We have zoning laws and shit that essentially will make you tear down your house if you make one without le permission, but the government also tells you to fuck off if you are spending half your income on rent and AREN'T a coalburner or Shaniqua.

Gibs are extremely hard to get in the US if you aren't a generational welfare recipient. If you are let's say a professional that gets laid off, the government tells you "FUCK YOU, DEAL WITH YOUR OWN DAMN PROBLEMS" while when you were working, they were fleecing you of your "fair share".

>half the people here are brown and/or retarded

I fail to comprehend what you mean. I'm saying that MOST AMERICANS BARELY EVEN HAVE $5K nigger.
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>>535364536
Have you seen our homes? Every house is packed full of stupid shit. Stupid plastic shit. Americans own a lot of stuff
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>>535364452
>And that's per useless eater

That's assuming they receive the maximum amount of food stamps at that high of an income level. I don't think you comprehend that... If you are making that amount, you are only going to be getting like $50 in food stamps.
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>>535364747
>MOST AMERICANS BARELY EVEN HAVE $5K
And, I'm telling you that most Americans are brown and/or retarded. The fact that half of Americans have less than $5k and the fact that half of Americans are brown and/or retarded is not a coincidence, it's a correlation.
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>>535364443
>I also make $11/hr

It's just depressing as fuck. For every nigger on here claiming they make $150K and press a few buttons a day, there is probably 10 Americans that are working for wages that would have been considered bad 20 years ago doing backbreaking work.
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>>535364832
I don't think you comprehend that I do not want to give you any free shit. You're lying about people on gibs contributing more in taxes than they take, but even it were true, it would only further my position that gibs are bad. If what you say is true, we could cut the gibs out completely, lower taxes and everyone would be better off. I'm all for that.
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>>535364896
My Peruvian girlfriend's brother has $4000 (in Soles, still) and they're "brown". He could pay their rent for over a year. How many months of rent does $5K get you in Muttmerica? Like 3 or 4 lol. That's also only like a month and a half of expenses.
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>>535365016
>everyone would be better off. I'm all for that.

Cut out all of the gibs to billionaires and the military and other corpokikes. I'm saying we are paying almost as much in taxes as Euros are, yet we are receiving nothing out of them while other countries even have some Euro style systems with LOWER taxes than us.
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>>535365068
...Okay... Good for him, I guess? I don't really see how that correlates to me not wanting to pay to feed retards here, or how it proves Peru has a higher standard of living than America.
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>>535364939
i made $12.50/hr in 2013 working at a golf course cutting grass and picking up beer cans, at that was considered the absolute lowest of seasonal laborer work.

making less than that now is just criminal.
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>>535364452
Living in a society isn't free bro. In your imaginary world you make your own luck, don't need anybody, DIY everything from scratch, and things just keep working fine and dandy. In reality you can't protect yourself or your pockets from a militia, whoever it is. If you disagree you can go try it out in Africa.
You know those white farmers who are constantly being attacked in South Africa? They need to stay awake in guard every night and day. So far they've been able to call the cops but in some cases the cops don't show up. They're too busy. So they hire private security. It costs exponentially more than cops because the private companies are exploiting the situation. They wouldn't pay if they didn't have to, they're poor enough as it is. It's the same with doctors and hospitals. Private equals profit margin, which equals greed. Critical infrastructure should be public with proper oversight. Non-critical shit can be private, it's not like the latest car, tv and phone are essential to survival.
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>>535358464
its because they work so hard, and they stand together, wind in their hair, the sun in their back, hand on their pure hearts.
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>>535365153
And, I am saying I do not want free shit for anyone, poor people, corporations, rich people, any of them. I want the government to stop stealing from one group to give to another.
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>>535365315
I don't have a problem with taxes for basic services, government, police, fire, infrastructure maintenance, this isn't about that. I do have a problem with paying for Shanequas free section 8 housing, free food for her five kids and her, free utility vouchers, free phones, and free medical, while Shanequa sits on her fucking ass. I'm also for regulating things like healthcare and critical industries so they can't monopolize and price gouge. But, I'm very much against taking them out of the private sector, because the government fucks up everything it touches.
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>>535364939
>>535365303
Thing is, I put money in the bank still and I'm waiting on dead boomer and crypto money. Anything's better than making $0/hr, especially with inflation making bank accounts worthless across the board.

If you have a million dollars, you're still in the same bracket with a fast food worker like me. Like, neither of us are gonna do real estate or high stakes stock trading. We're just chilling and waiting.
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>>535358464
Its like a spending addict after maxing their 15th credit card
'But the interest alone is 30% of your wage, it was 20% only last year, cant you see the trend?'
'Yeah! 5 more years of fun! Lets gooo'
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>>535365557
How it should work is that you pay taxes to your State, which will contribute an annual fee to the Federal government based on the population of the State. As it currently seems to be, all Americans are paying relatively high taxes regardless of the State they live in. This means that people in Wyoming have to pay similar taxes as Californians while California is the economic power in the US and probably has the most billionaires and millionaires. They have the most POC, homeless and other people needing welfare, but the wealthiest residents have it subsidized by poor and middle class Americans living in places like Wyoming and Montana.

So in short, the Federal "tax" should be paid by the State alone, as it happens to be the case in the EU, and it's per capita based. Unfortunately this system isn't flawless either, as we learned. After receiving gibs for decades, countries like Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and other gypponigger tier huwhite countries have not invested the money in their infrastructure, but rather blew it on bribes, booze and prostitutes. You would likely have the same side effects, but it's still more fair than having to subsidize people needing welfare in a different State where you can't vote.
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>>535366779
This is the sane thing to do if money buys you fun. Money is kinda pointless for the rest of us. The only thing I want to spend money on is Chud's lawyers, then after he walks I'm gonna start saying the Nigger word in public as god our lord intended. Other than that, my bank account isn't as important as whether I'm living in India or Africa or Mexico.
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Why do you work? Your immediate answer will be some kind of cope, unless "it's to pay the bills." There's just no point to working hard for money. You won't retire unless you're a stock trader or crypto gambler. You'll eventually work at Walmart after inflation makes starting wages $40/hr cuz you'd be crazy not to.
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>make around 45-48k before taxes
>literally cant afford a bare minimum shoebox apartment
winning so hard bros
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>>535358464
They pay half the tax, they earn twice as much and their currency is twice as strong.
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>>535359014
most americans have medical insurance that costs 20-60 bucks a week if they dont have a job they get free insurance from the government and medical debt doesnt even go on your credit report, you literally dont have to pay it, its true alot of americans have credit card debt but that's because they live above their means
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>>535367536
>>535359014
If I can cum on it, I own it. We'll pay our debts after we're dead.
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>>535367021
I'd prefer a flat tax of say 25% on all goods and services, split between federal, state, and local. With no gibs and stringent regulation on corporations.



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