>We can't have a higher minimum wage, not at all. $15 for a burger flipper? No way. Hell, say what you want about these billionaires, but they're out there makin' jobs.
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$10/hr would be plenty to buy a home with if the longest legal mortgage was 5 years.
>>535394261Amen brother, no one wants to do any real work anymore
>>535394139boomers pretend inflation doesnt exist.
>>535394261Prison pussy fest
>>535394139Fixing prices and wages is the lot of fools. People just correspond their prices to fixed constant variable(for example min wage). You make people richer by increasing their purchasing power.
>>535394139>>535394261>we GOTTA SUPPORT ISRALE>otherwise them terrists would be over here cause they hate our freedums
>>535394139>>535394261>>535394365I miss old forum style Boomer posting.
>>535394139With inflation a burger flipper in 1984 made the equivalent of $16.22
>>535394139It'sMinimum WageFaggotMaybe get a skill that isn't the MINIMUM?When did Pol become a tween gossip board?
>>535394139>Free healthcare? Where we going to get the money from!My taxes, you fucking dunce. I want my taxes to pay for things like healthcare,.not money to Israel.
>>535394478>old forumThis is how they look and post on X and Threads
>>535394139>$15Why not $50?
>>535394526>Glug glug glug daddy I'm sorry I thought I was a human worth getting paid enough to live>Gag>I'll tip you extra this month on my rent payment>Glug glug glug>I love paying $700 a month for a car
>>535394526Well said brother, people are so entitled to food and shelter. They need to get a real job!
>>535394139>gets his $15 minimum wage >posts daily about how food is suddenly really expensive Almondsisters… our activation???
>>535394139They know they're wrong and they do not want to change.They're trolling you.
>>535394608>>535394630I've run a business and you faggots aren't worth $5 an hour frankly.
>>535394582$4.50 from the 60s (the decade these retards still think it is) would be about $50-60 today so yeah it probably should be about that.alterntively make a currency that still has value if you think these retards will be too scared of the big numbers.
>>535394749No one cares about your shitty "business". Oh wow so cool, you hire someeth heads or illegals to do grunt work and rip off neighbors, wow you're just like Elon!
>>535394788Why not $500?
>>535394749its th' damn LEEBURULS brother. They aint gonna deserve a PENNY from me, amen to all the heroes in IsraelJohn McBoomer69th flying horse corps vietnam
>>535394526why would anyone with half a brain pay employee anything other than the minimum
>>535394749Then why do you hire them?
>>535394899itll have to be that in a few years if someome doesnt stop the orange nigger from literally doubling the amount of fiat dollars printed like he did in 2020 and if they dont do anything about inflation.alternatively make a currency that has value
>>535394749This is spot on. I wouldn't pay a dime for any of these spoiled brats. Pablo, Suraj, and Ngubu work twice as hard for half the pay.
>>535394534Between Israel and healthcare, I choose healthcare, but if they just left us with our money healthcare would cost half what it would cost if the government taxed us to pay for it. In other words you're less retarded than the Israel firsters, but you're still wrong.
>>535394526What does the boot taste like?
>>535394899Because inflation hasn't gotten that bad yet. Look at wages vs housing (or better yet, gold and silver) and you'll see the buying power of $50-60 is about what $4-5 was in the 60's roughly.
>>535394737They just don't want anyone younger than them to have a good life.
>>535394788I worked a minimum wage job as a teenager in 1993. I made $4.50 an hour. At the time an ounce of silver was also about $4.50. Adjusted for inflation (the dollar's loss of purchasing power) I have to charge my customers ~$85 an hour today to enjoy the same purchasing power my minimum wage job afforded me in 1993.https://www.apmex.com/product/1090/1-oz-canadian-silver-maple-leaf-coin-bu-random-yearCheers!
>>535394988and the wife loves them! they keep her off my back nagging. I hear her moaning in the backroom, probably talking silly woman politics
>>535394139Interestingly enough 15 dollars an hour is correct adjusted for inflation from 1980 until today for min wage.
>>535394139$15/hr is low pay in most places now kek
some blue collar/tradies in their 40s+ are seriously the most insufferable scumbag pieces of shit in america, they want almost nothing more than for other younger white men to suffer just to feel better about themselves>be a few years ago making minimum wage of $12 an hour at an arbys (rent here was $1500 minimum at the time now even higher obviously)>custy 47 year old blue collar faggot comes in and asks the manager at the register what we make nowadays while giving his order>she says 12, he scoffs and talks about how he only made like $4 an hour in the 70s or whatever, saying we should be paid less>every day these blue collar boomer redneck faggots flood in from a construction site nearby all at the same time and throw fits about everything>this one guy once came to the register and shows me a 1x1 MILIMETER barely visible speck of roast beef on his chicken slider, absolutely seething with white hot rage about it looking like he wants to skin me alive, demanding he get a refund for his entire meal>>535394261>i know what i got
>>535395568They know they are low on the totem pole so the only way to feel better about themselves is to look down on "unskilled" labor
>>535394261Beards are makeup for men
>>535395220In 1968 minimum wage was $1.60 per hour and gold was $35 per ounce.35/1.6 = 21.875Today minimum wage is $7.25 and gold is $4659 per ounce.4659/7.25 = 642.62So... In 1968 a minimum wage worker had to work 22 hours to buy one ounce of gold. Today a minimum wage worker has to work 643 hours to afford the same ounce of gold.643/22 = 29.2$7.25x13.3 = $211If minimum wage was the same as it was in 1968 it would be $211/hour today.
>>535394526Yea you tell that motherfuker! He don't wanna fuckin WORK! It's called a fuckin JOB! Maybe if he didn't work at fuckin McDonald, he would have a goddamn place to fuckin LIVE!
>>535395096You say that until the entire hospital and doctors office is full of junkies there to waste time and to make sure you can't see your doctor.
>>535394924A fucking MEN brother! I swear, my nephew fuckin told me "HEY UNCLE QUENTIN, I CANT GET A JOB". Too fuckin BAD BOY HAHAHAQuentin Lebowitz11th Armored Cavalry DivisionUS ARMY!
>>535395224Exactly this. My late mother was a baby boomer but she helped literally everyone she could to her own detriment. But only those who showed worth of being helped. My father (also baby boomer) is the complete antithesis of that. It's ingrained in them at a young age to be the biggest fucking narcissists and saboteurs possible.
>>535395715It takes work to not have a beard as a man. Shaving all the time is such a chore.
>>535395341haha hell yeah, brother! OORAH
>>535395780>$7.25x13.3 = $211$7.25x29.2 = $211(damn it)
>>535394630I love how this dude became THE go-to boomer wojak, he's perfect.
>>535394373Because all boomers do is grind and grind. They don't want to hear about any complaints that would upend the very same system they grinded on for almost 50 years now. It's insane but boomers are the ultimate golems who just grind away working for no real inherit reason. >>535395780Boomers scoffed at gold for decades and still do only because they missed the boat. They think because nixon took the dollar off the gold standard that gold is worthless. That was their mindset. Gold and silver were always valuable. It's just they didn't understand the reason why the government took precious metals away from coins and bills was to prevent hoarding. 1964 and earlier dimes and quarters were made up of silver. And of course you could trade money for it's value in gold using the gold standard. The government didn't want people trading their currency for metals and hoarding it but instead spending it into the economy.
>>535395525That's min wage here, champ. That ain't good enough for your fuckin avocado toast and starbucks latte?! WELL FUCK YOU, I GOT MINE GO GET YOURS!!!!!!!!
>>535394139Min wage battle is meme tier garbage anyway. Canada has been doing it for 10+ years, makes basically no difference. They effectively just rob skilled workers who don't get pay raises witht hem since cost of living rises directly with the wage increases etc. Raise it to 150 bucks an hour and you will just have that equivalent in cost of living rises. It's almost a meme at this point to see protesters in canada demanding higher wages, there's been dozens multiple times a year for over a decade straight now, it's clearly working, actually waitr I think they're even worse of now at 18 bucks an hour than they were back when it was 12 kek. Like a band aid on a rotting leg
>>535395568I live in a college city and every time these no good faggots have to come down around the campus to work on anything, the rich ass college kids shit on them so badly. What's hilarious to me is that these tradie blue collar faggots truly believe that they're better than anyone. I've been white collar and I've been blue collar and I choose white any day of the fucking week. You don't get respected walking into a fucking business or anywhere with some dirty sweaty ass high vis bullshit on. But you get respected wearing a suit. And the only time a tradie has a suit on is for court. Enough fucking said.
>>535394517>With inflation a burger flipper in 1984 made the equivalent of $16.22Dumb boomers just want to ruin their own childrens life while they larp about how hard they had it back in the day.
>>535396065>Because all boomers do is grind and grind. They don't want to hear about any complaints that would upend the very same system they grinded on for almost 50 years now. It's insane but boomers are the ultimate golems who just grind away working for no real inherit reason.it comes from some need to believe they can control their own outcome, and thats because they did, very easily, back when this country was in good shape, and as it got worse they just coped more and more by grinding more and more and saying fuck everyone else ive got mine, i have control over my life because i slave more and more. i have an uncle who this translated to into being an absolute OCD freak and a vegan who is starving himself to death. just an endless need to exert control over himself to cope with an increasingly chaotic and unraveling world
>>535396065>The government didn't want people trading their currency for metals and hoarding it but instead spending it into the economy.But why?
>>535394139>be capable of producing only $10/hr of value>government and leftist SCUM render you illegal to employThis is a major factor in the enormous unemployment rate in the west.I’d abolish the minimum wage and unions entirely, while implementing colour swash based immigration.
>>535395568IS THAT BEEF ON MUH SLIDER/???? GODDAMN
>>535396043>damn ur cute, sweetie. how about you send me a DIRECT MESSAGE, i'd love to taste you.
>>535394180anyone who has an opinion about any sport is a fucking faggot nigger. you will never be considered a Man.
>>535394749Die, old nigger
>>535396331Because spending into the economy increases the GDP. More GDP=More Jobs=More prosperity for all. Do you notice nobody talks about the GDP anymore? And Trump is on record saying he wants to keep investments high? Like real estate and the markets. Because the USA is on runaway inflation and nothing can ever go down again apart from the debt which is a talking point(because it's never going down) So inflation is never going down either. So the economy just needs to continue to grow and the markets only need to go up and up forever. Hence the Iran war for oil and increase investments and markets.
>>535395525oof. no boot strapper here! looks like il be hiring achmed instead.. stop being so entitled. f u need you can sleep in my boat for 300 a month, watch the mosquitoes though lol
>>535396215i agree, but there are some actual cool blue collar jobs that are associated with or help create people who are jacked and naturally commanding of respect like underwater welding, firemen or aviation
>>535396518You're correct, but you're describing a symptom and not really addressing the root cause of the problem.Why would the criminals who masquerade as "government" care about GDP or sound money?
>>535395568in my personal experience its been that certain type specifically that I've encountered who seem to get upset the easiest. usually a tall older white man with a big belly, grey hair, some type of blue collar job, they get pissed easier than anyone else.not sure why, they got a vehicle, a wife, probably kids, a home. yet they're so upset.
>>535394139I TELL U BROTHER THESE KIDS JUST DONT WANT TO WORKBACK IN 1967 I WAS A PAPERBOY AND WORKED EXTRA HOURS ON THE WEEKEND. I WAS ABLE TO BUY MY OWN HOUSE AND A FORD FALCONSEMPER FI
>>535396734Firemen deserve all the praise they can get. They're the only fucking first responders I'll ever respect.
>>535394139Why would I care about burger flippers? How does their pay affect my life?
>>535396952fucking kekthe accuracy is disgusting. Put them all in skilled nursing facilities. Let the niggers deal with them. >grandson, i didn't eat today. can you call the nurse?I didn't eat either, pop pop. Because of you, I can't afford anything anymore. And now I live in my car at a rest stop. I hope it was worth it.
>>535396261they dont understand CPI because most of them failed high school math
>>535394139>We can't have a higher minimum wage, not at all. $15 for a burger flipper? No way. Hell, say what you want about these billionaires, but they're out there makin' jobs.I paid for my college working weekend in the bowling alley. Young people today are lazy and spend all their money on iPhones.
>>535396937>they got thingsThey got loans for things. Up to their eyeballs in debt and no longer have any end in sight for a job they hate working. They take out their bad feelings on their wives and kids who begin to hate them and refuse to spend time with them anymore. The only one left to vent to is the wagie who has no choice but to take it.
>>535396742I never said the government cared about sound money but only care about growth. America had sound money using the gold standard which kept inflation down. The government wanted to increase inflation so it could increase growth.Increasing growth increases profit and investments. And since inflation increases growth by lowering purchasing power they can increase their profits while lowering nominal gdp. This why the markets keep going up and investments keep going up while wages keep going down by using inflation.It's all by design to enslave the American people.
Y'all need to just pull yourself up by the bootstraps and learn a skill. I hired a plumber and he charged $300 for an hour of work. I couldn't imagine making that money as a young man.
>>535397016Let's call the burger flippers the working class. Those who put in time for their wages(paid by the hour). Why would you care what the working class makes? Because without a working class you don't have a functioning economy. You can only squeeze the working class so much until eventually they snap and overthrow the system of government.
Today one of my rentoids was actually SO MAD because I walked in their bedroom while they were sleeping and ate their food in the fridge. Sorry, bubs. You might be paying me but it’s still MY property
>>535397410>It's all by design to enslave the American people.Bingo. Thank you for playing. Cheers!
>>535394139unless people stop eating fast food this same shit thread will still be made when a small cheeseburger is 50$
>>535397635They're not gonna overthrow shit. That's just fantasy. And the economy seems to be working for me. I'm a millionaire and a home owner. What's the problem?
>can't afford to live on wage>No one who needs to live off wage applies>Only people applying to work are people who need to work a little bit to qualify for bennies>Workers universally suck because they are just there to make the bare minimum needed for the bennies>"Why does no one want to work anymore?">"Why do the few people who do work give terrible customer service?">"Something something bootstraps sweat equity!"
>>535397635have you seen the state of the troglodytes that make your favorite slop? these fucks cant even line a bun or patty up right and the last time they bathed was probably when they pissed themselves after a bad vape. The fuck are they gonna overthrow except trying to toss trash in a trash can and missing
>>535394139>I hate immigrants, but let me tell you, my Filipina wipe makes one helluva adobe and I would never pay a teenager to mow my lawn when Juan will do it for $5. The sort of boomer faggot who sells his house to Indians and then moves to Mexico while collecting SS checks.
>>535397877>millionaire and home ownerYou own just one home as a homeowner? You're so full of shit.
>>535398073I own one home for now. I'll get another when my dad dies. And why would I lie about it. If I was poor, wouldn't I be on your side?
>>535397805The bankers never cared about the working class. They only pretended to during the cold war. After the cold war ended the economy was geared to war and profit. It even has a fancy moniker or name. It's called, "project new American century". And it's part of the very same agenda that wants to regime change Iran today.So Trump reeled in on his campaign promises of 2016 that he would keep America out of foreign wars like the Iraq war.
>>535396381125 lbs btw.
>>535398046Let him. Hope a cartel kidnaps and tortures him to death as he goes to visit his fucking 90 day fiance. I'm done being nice to these people or trying to coexist with them. I see these no good faggots every single fucking time I go to Costco and they're there at 8am bright eyed and bushy tailed to go walk around a fucking warehouse all day and eat some shitty ass hotdog made by some spic or nigger. I legit cannot wait until the next pandemic comes and kills them all again.
>>535394139Yes, fuck you useless cunt, get a real job.No it is not reasonable to expect to sustain yourself by flipping burgers.Just admit it, you want an easy job that lets you be a lazy useless fuck so you can spend as much time as possible at home masturbating, eating junk food, and getting high.
>>535398201You mean a fake pandemic like covid? Anyway, I think your anger stems from something other than being poor. What's really got you so upset? Girl trouble?
>>535398134Oh so you're a nepo. You don't know wealth at all, kid. My aunt and uncle are true millionaires. Most of my family on my father's side are very well off due to real estate. You are poor to me. Why is that? Because you didn't earn a fucking thing you've been given. At all. You could pull your dads pants down right now and give him the best head he's ever had and swallow every droplet of cum he shoots down your throat and it still wouldn't be deserving at all whatsoever. Every nepo baby should be sent to fucking Afghanistan.
>>535394526>When did Pol become a tween gossip board?Same time it became infested with filthy meets and islam apologists.
>>535398292Shut the fuck up, faggot. You really don't fucking get it. You're a spoiled little bitch. What's the hardest job you've ever had, boy? Enlighten us.
>>535398319Why do leftists always devolve into homosexual fantasies out of nowhere and for no reason? It's really creepy. Anyway, I'm comfortable. I'm not in a competition. Of course there are richer people than me, that goes without saying. I'm not bitter about it like you are though.
>>535398378Trying to reason with communists is the hardest job I've ever had. You should have a drink or something, you're going to have a heart attack. And you can't afford that.
>>535398285Working class people just want a reasonable wage so they can afford a house, wife and family. Working class people can't even afford their own apartments these days. They need roommates to split the rent and here you are mocking them.
>>535398536What race are these "working class people" you keep talking about?
>>535398285You know what I wish I did about 10 or so years ago? I wish I went to college to become a physician assistant or nurse practitioner. I would've specialized in elder care or geriatrics and I would've honestly treated every single last fucking one of you like the pieces of shit that you are. My older sister worked in long-term care for many many years and she was abused quite a bit by elderly patients. All of you honestly deserve to be thrown into a state run facility ran by a bunch of Nigerians and Africans. You deserve Indian doctors overmedicating your sorry asses so that all you can manage to do is sit around in your own piss and shit as you watch Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy and try not to get beaten half to death by some disgruntled LPN.
>>535394261These warriors singlehandedly keeping Facebook comment section alive.
>>535394139Only 400k people make the federal minimum wage. In a country of 340 million people, that's a rounding error. Wages rose on their own without government intervention. What's the purpose of making a law that have no real actual impact?
>>535394139I call for a maximum wage which will eliminate the need for a minimum wage. Ceo and other executive salaries are capped at a percent of the lowest paid worker of a corporation. Simple as. This would instantly find profits to pay workers more as the incentive shifts. The government should also be incentivising employee owned companies to get rid of the parasitic "investor class". A strong american economy is HINGED on the on the economic strength of its people and not wall-street stock values.
>>535398587>I wish I was a nurseI want you to imagine my laugh splitting the silence of my fully paid for 5 bedroom suburban home.
>>535398581Any race but it's more about class. Those working with just a high school diploma cannot afford rents on a working class wage.
>>535398704Ah, so basically you're here to shill for niggers and spics. I thought so. Well, good luck with that, amigo.
>>535394139Burger flippers trying to get the most money is the equivalent of the frog turning up the pot temp. You will be replaced by a robot lmao
>>535398396>>535398461This has absolutely nothing the fuck to do with politics and everything to do with the fact that you nepotistic faggots are truly the dredges of society no matter how many McMansions you buy up and how many shitty ass pavement princess faggot ass trucks and SUVs you and your whore hotwife drive around in. But if you want to MAKE it political, I'll say this: we're in this position as a country because of people like you to begin with. First thing you said ITT:>Why would I care about burger flippers? How does their pay affect my life?Then you said this to follow up:>They're not gonna overthrow shit. That's just fantasy. And the economy seems to be working for me. I'm a millionaire and a home owner. What's the problem?So how are you not the fucking problem here?>Heh, I got mine. Go get yours. But what's yours? You live off of the fruits of your parents labor. That's not honorable. That just makes you a fucking NEET that got lucky.
>>535398659Statistics are deceptive. Sure most are not paid the exact federal min wage but they are paid slightly higher. Maybe 9 dollars an hour. Still not enough to cover rents.
>>535398819I don't drive a truck or an SUV. I have an Audi A4. And I don't really care what "position" you're in. That's the whole point. You still haven't explained why I should care. You just concocted some childish revolution fantasy that we both know is totally unrealistic. Your anger has nothing to do with the financial situation of Mexican burger flippers. You're angry about other things and just using politics as a coping mechanism. It's unhealthy.
>>535398704No use arguing with a kid who got molested all his life and his rich daddy feels guilty so he's leaving him all sorts of nice shit to shut him the fuck up.
>>535399050>More homosexual fantasies out of nowhereYou're living up to every left-wing stereotype. Tell me, are in transitioning?
>>535399000That doesn't fucking impress me lmaoThe thing is that YOU sit here thinking that it doesn't affect you. That's hilarious. Go order some more Uber Jeets so Rajesh can bring you and your whore some more Indian food, you woke bitch.
>>535398819Capitalism isn't a fair economic system. Just look at the markets and you can see the investor class has infinitely more money than the working class. Because they are living on corporate profits instead of their own labor under these very same corporations.So it's not hard to imagine those who make their money on corporate growth have it more well off than those who work for themselves and are paid by the hour. Capitalism is a flawed economic system and the only reason the working class works is because the alternative is death.
>>535396381>t. seething Kansas City fan
>>535399135Life isn't fair either.
>>535399118Why would I do that? I have a shopping center 5 minutes from my house. I am thinking about ordering pizza though.
>>535398871McDonalds starts out at $14/hr in my podunk flyover "city". I dont know a single person that makes less than 14/hr. Any trade starts at $18-25. Factory jobs start at $18. Gas stations are like $16. Who the fuck is making $9/hr when you can be a carpenters board-holder making $18/hr?
>>535398807robots will just drive food costs up (kiosks also didn't help them go down...)
>>535399189You're completely missing my point here. Why do you believe that this doesn't affect you?
>>535399394Because it doesn't. I live a satisfying, comfortable life. I mean, it's a little hot today where I am, but other than that, I feel good.
>>535399135Its not about being "fair", per se. Its that we barely even live in a capitalistic economy. The "investor class" is an abomination of a Supreme Court decision that states "a corporations only responsibility is to its shareholders" which is only around 100 years old.
>>535399145Life has never been fair but the premise of western civilization was to be civil and make life fair and equal. This is why the working class formed unions so they could strike for higher wages and better working conditions. You can't choose your race, nationality or even class but you can fight back against oppression for your own survival. Americans have lost the plot and simply allow the working class to be spit on in the name of corporate profits(aka greed) because every American wants to be part of the rich investor class and not the exploited working class.
>>535399490I've been part of several unions. Teamsters and NALC to be specific. They don't help you do a fucking thing.
>>535399255It depends on the state really. In places with higher wages the cost of living is higher too so it all evens out.
>>535399476America has transformed into an entirely different nation than it was 100 years ago. It's now a nation ran by international finance and markets instead of a middle class manufacturing base. Anywhere in the world this is true now. The world is all interconnected, financialized with a perpetual boot stomping on the working classes face forever.
>>535396215>muh suitYou're the exact same kind of faggot they are.
>>535395780I believe, like you presumably do, that gold and silver are actual money. However, I am curious what the ratio of gold and silver is to the number of people in the world / USA then and now. Is it feasible to still assume the same ratio then vs now? Is this even a relevant question, I am unsure.
>>535395817That's exactly what I'm saying, if the government pays for our healthcare via our taxes, we'll never get access just like Canada.
>>535400108That doesn't work because gold and silver are also commodities whose price has increased faster than others. The way to prove it is to look at the basket of goods you can get with an ounce of gold or silver in 1970 versus today. It's nowhere near as simple as anon makes it out to be.
>>535397990
>>535400108I'm not sure but it's obvious the value has increased immensely due to the population boom in this world. Precious metals are very rare and worth a lot of money. Anything rare people usually price it as worth a lot of money.Gold and silver were relatively affordable until people figured out adjusted for inflation it was still cheap. Not the case anymore today. Silver hit 100 dollars an ounce and gold is what 5k?
>>535395780The price of gold isn't stable and never has been. Since 1968 the economic importance of gold has also skyrocketed. Its used in nearly everything. Same with silver.
>>535400107Doesn't have to be a fucking suit, you pedantic faggot. I'm saying that the better you're dressed, the better you're treated. If a nasty ass tradie walked into a fucking five star restaurant with his high vis bullshit on, would you want to serve him? No.
>>535400584adjusted for inflation against the USD, silver and gold can still run quite a lot
>>535400551>no tartar sauce>no lettuceThey deserve it. Being picky about food is incredibly jewish.
>>535400174I already have dual enrolled healthcare. Medicare and Medicaid. I don't pay for a fucking thing. No copays, nothing because I'm disabled. They pay for my Mounjaro too and I'm losing weight for free. But the downside is that whenever I have to use my insurance, I have to go to a shithole filled with niggers or jeets or spics. I don't deserve that shit. But that's what cheap healthcare brings. If I had it my way, I'd have boutique medicine or have a white doctor doing a house call.
>>535400551>shieeeet nigga, i don fuckin kno lmaoooooo u said cheese tho rite? shieet dum ass yt mf dont kno how make mf sandwich THEN Y U HERE FUCK NIGGA?!
>>535400686>implyingMost white collar people make literal poverty wages. Lmao. When I quit the trades to go work in my field of study I was making $76/hour plus benefits.
>>535400108>I believe, like you presumably do, that gold and silver are actual money.You and me and article 1 section 10 of the constitution.About the ratio...For years the ratio was defacto and/or legislated at 15:1 and a little later 16:1. Since Nixon closed the gold window it seems the ratio has become more volatile as the metals have become somewhat decoupled from their monetary function. (There was also a disruption in the ratio in the 1940s presumably from industrial use of silver for the 20th century's second jew war.https://www.macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratioIt's an interesting question, anon. I do not know enough about the historical fluctuations of the gold/silver ratio and the causes of such fluctuations to answer your question. Happy Tuesday!
>>535401185$76 an hour to do fucking what?
>WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT ISRAEL???
>>535401623Commercial/industrial carpentry. Which requires an understanding of electricity, hvac, and logistics.
>liberals still doing the minimum wage shitwhat is wrong with you people?
Record profits for multinational billionaires should NOT be infringed
>>535402255So you were making north of $150k a year. Do you personally believe that's a lot?
$15 an hour already basically the minimum wage. Even burger flippers make about 15 an hour.
I miss when real people posted on this site and not Indian bootlickers and trust fund brats that have never seen a quarter.
Boomers think a house that sold for $150k in 2012 now selling for $600k is normal.
>>535402772Actually you are just out of touch and live a boomer bubble because your generation wields massive economic sway because you are so numerous and refuse to die.
>>535402964Wipe your ass saaaaarrrrrrrrr
>>535402873>>535402964>and that's why the minimum wage should be $100 per hourshut up zoomer holy shit
>>535402873Yup because they are thinking in terms of 100k increments while to us 150k is still unobtainable. Boomers got their first homes nearly 50 years ago. We still haven't gotten our first house. My parents told me they got their first house for like 80k with interest free loans from their parents(since back then in the 70s interest was like 15%) Anyway they have been flipping houses for probably around 20 years now and like when the prices go up. It's crazy to think how oppressed we are when we never had that first house and will never have it.
>>535397879The argument that a min wage being raised a bit will make inflation go up doesn't fully make sense because of this. If it stays the same the government will just have to subsidize most of these workers bc otherwise they'll all be homeless especially if they're brown they'll have no issue getting that so they'll wind up getting the extra money anyways it'll just be the tax payer instead of the corporation paying for it.
>>535402772I agree. I can't stand these newfag nepo baby pussies.
>>535402964>dude my dad said to fuck yourself lmao i'm gonna go buy another BMW hahahaha you're fucking broke, dude just work harder or whatever lmaoooooHope you get hit by a jeet tractor trailer driver.
>>535398285No it's because I don't even have to pay rent and even with that out of the equation if I wasn't lucky enough to have a 15 yo shitbox handed down to me it would've required spending nearly everything I've saved in the last year plus of working just to get that.So what did the wage pay for what did I actually work for? Food and after a year I can get a shitty rundown car to get back and forth to work so I can keep buying food. That's the best case scenario too bc as I said i don't have to pay rent i lucked out.
>>535402496It was a lot for me at the time. Not anymore.
>>535403178>>535403080You are despicable old farts sitting on 500k properties that were 200k just 10 years ago. DIE.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH, I FUCKED UP THE INTERVIEW!>"What do you know about parent company.""Uhhhhh (insert general statement here).">"Ok"It's such a dumb mistake since I literally reviewed the company before the interview. God that was stupid.
>>535404195Must be fucking nice.
>>535404262Time to go on disability, fuck nigga.
>>535394139if you believe in livable wages and you're not in college, you really need to kill yourself. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, comrade.
>>535404246I'm 30 you insane zoomer, you're just fucking dumb
>>535404246Does selling a 200k house for 500k mean you can make a vertical move? No. So who cares. 200k houses are now 500k which means that no one wants to sell a 500k house when the only thing they would get is another 500k house of equal or lesser quality. Its a moot point.
>>535404083I just wanted to let you know I got that pizza, and it's good. Got pepperoni on it. What about the pizza in poortown? Is it good?
>"higher wages??? what?? pull yourself up by your bootstraps like i did in 1982">"why are there so many niggers in customer service???"
>>535404479Hope you get fucking E. Coli.
>$25 big mac meals have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the increase in minimum wage! you're just a bigot. i know i'm right because all of the billionaire corporations agree with me and show their support for our struggle with black spots, blue squares, and rainbow flags in their twitter avis
>>535401955they're literally agent smith glownigger golems holy fuck
>>535404437They sell these houses all the time what are you talking about? While my generation was stressing out about dating 20 years ago boomers were flipping houses and own rental properties today raking in the cash. Boomers got to work their first jobs and get their first houses before globalism took off and they got to invest and profit off globalism after.So they got the best of both world's while my generation got the worst of it. My first job i couldn't even afford rent. You know what boomers said? Get 2 jobs. They never had to get 2 jobs to afford rent let alone a first home mortgage.
>>535404617Still angry, huh? You know what I like to do with I'm feeling down? I like to go out and sit on my deck and watch the birds and squirrels and stuff. Have you tried doing that?
>I want affordable healthcare, housing, tuition and decent wages>I also want unmitigated mass immigration >everything from people who undercut jobs to the lowest scum criminals of the earth on welfare>I'm very smart
>>535404732nobody cares, faggot. Some junkie's gonna torch your shit soon anyway.
>>535404317Just because I'm retarded doesn't meant I can persuade the government that I am retarded.
>>535404650u right we need to pay people less to stick it to corps like walmart who are notoriousfor lobbying for min wage increases and paying their employees so well
>>535397224>and refuse to spend time with them anymore. This. I had to take an electrician class back in my tradie days and the instructor flat out said he enjoyed being in that dingy office than with his wife and daughters. Would take trips out of state to get away from them to work on multi-month projects. Sad mother fuckers.>Wanna know why they call it the trades? >Because you'll trade in your physical health, mental health, emotional health, your relationships with friends and family, your free time, your hobbies and interests, ALL OF IT, for a paycheck. A paycheck just to make less what a basic Bachelor's in STEM makes. >(Though to be fair, usually a Master's now but most trades require a 2 year tech school degree because BoomerXs are THAT worthless at teaching. Trade off (heh))
Why do they all look the same
>>535404804Those kind of troublemakers don't come around here. Too many trees, it confuses them.
>>535404703This is such a cope. Lmao. Homeownership among young adults has been roughly unchanged for 100 years. >inb4 you argue with me instead of looking it up
>goyboy threadBased.
>>535404868Yet I did just that.
>>535404989They probably live in tents within the treeline.
>>535405283But that implies you're not retarded, but a scammer instead.I can't do that.
>>535405349I actually am retarded though. I was declared disabled a month after my 18th birthday. I never have to work again if I don't want to.
>>535405299Hm, they don't sound smart enough to do a revolution with. Isn't that a problem for you?
>>535394139As a homeowner, and a landlord I say make minimum wage $50/hr. Drive wages up and pay my house for me. Devalue my mortgage
>>535405396They don't need to. What's stopping them from squatting in a home in your area and terrorizing it?
>>535398819Absolutely seething, malding, and raging libshit. Holy fuck. For every proper jab on the guys in OP's pic you come up with 3 reasons to hate your side. Go back to whatever subreddit or Discord you crawled out of.>inb4 you sperg some more.Let's get right to it: ORM Bench?>inb4 you don't post itThat's what I thought, you fucking queer-eyed toothpick.
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>>535404995Nope since young adults all rent and like i said my first job i couldn't even afford rent working just that one job and that was nearly 15 years ago. Zoomers have it worse off today due to inflation and increased globalization.
>>535405455The police, I'd imagine. They have a pretty quick response time. Last year I had to call the cops on some teenagers because they were playing rap music from their car too loudly and the cops showed up in like 3 minutes. I watched from my entertainment room window as the cops made them go away. Very satisfied with the service.
>>535405406>fuck the future generation, just keep inflating, I gotta get mineThat's how we got into this mess you stupid nigger. We need one generation of people to sacrifice for the future but I fear the world is too brown and jewish for this to ever happen.
>>535405601The younger generation are the ones asking for min wage hikes, so whatever.
>>535405539The problem isn't "huuuuurrrrrr you lazy n wants to buy house working at daaaa subway" the problem is even after splitting the rent with roommates we're at the point now where housing is so inflated and wages so depressed that they can't even afford that. It's either be born into a family that allows you to remain in their house rent free as an adult or wind up on the street even with a full time job
>>535405508Take your meds, simpleton ass faggot.>hurr stop being so hypercritical! No. Fuck you.
>>535405569You sound so much like a kike.
>>535405897>No benchCalled it. >schizo>said the nigga with 38 posts itt
>>535405913You're the Marxist (he was a kike).
>>535406007I don't do bench presses because I'm not 16 fucking years old, dickhead. I'm 34. My body's fucked up from blue collar bullshit work.
>>535405830Because immigrants work jobs undercutting natives and all pile in apartments together. They do this to send money home as western cash and wages are like a gold mine to them. Wages will never go up and housing will never go down long as globalism persists. And also foreign capital is raising real estate prices as corrupt foreigners like to park their wealth in the west to keep it safe here.
>>535405539My parents couldn't get a house until they were in their 30s in the 80s because interest rates were through the roof. They were both bachelor degree holders too. Their parents helped them to pay rent and support themselves. You're incredibly mistaken. Also, my dad had to go to fucking vietnam so stop being a little bitch. Lmao. You need like 40k to put down on a house and if your ass can't save 40k in 5 years you're fucking up somewhere. >muh rent>muh foodStay at home retard! Stop working dead end jobs and become career and goal oriented. Do you even have a single source for your beleifs? No.
>>535406104Does your pool have a hot tub? Those can do wonders soothing sore muscles.
>>535406183Can I go in yours? I'll play with your cock, daddy :3
>>535406104>my body is fukt at 34What a sad faggot you are. >>535406295And you don't fool anyone, you stupid fucking 'cord troon
>>535406295You're doing the left-wing stereotype where you turn everything into a perverted homosexual fantasy again. What do you think that's about?
>>535406351I'm getting a lot healthier without doing resistance training (can't legally do all that shit right now). I walk over 5 miles a day. I'm in better shape than I have been in years. Especially for a guy my size.
>>535406415I was being 100% fucking serious lol
>>535405803Just because a toddler wants to lick the electrical outlet doesn't mean you let them. You're supposed to guide them and make the world better, not just take advantage of their stupidity.
>>535394139People want higher minimum wage but then cry when things get more expensive and more jobs get automated.
>>535406441I don't doubt it. I'm aware that leftist men are all homosexuals, but why do you steer every conversation toward it? I like boobs but you don't seem me interjecting big fat milkers into every post.
>>535394139>WHY CAN'T BURGER FLIPPERS MAKE $15/HR?!?!? IT'S NOT FAIR!!! >well if you do that, then the companies will just pass the cost onto the customer by raising prices>SO WHAT?!?! EVERYONE DESERVES TO MAKE A LIVABLE WAGE!!!>fine, have it your way...>*burger flippers now make $15/hr*>WTF WHY IS MY BIG MAC & FRIES NOW $12?!?!? THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
So if you're all so damn smart what's the actual answer then? Because apparently raising wages isn't it ... Why is it not possible to raise wages without raising the price of everything else?
>>535406518I'm sorry, daddy :(
>>535406167I already said my parents got their first house in the 70s for 80k with an interest free loan from their parents. So adjusted for inflation that house would cost 350k today if going by min wage standards. But really i have no inclination to work a 9 to 5 job grinding away for 50+ years. Seems like hell on earth.
>>535406576There is no solution because the entire economy is a replica of the animal kingdom. That is to say you are forced to work until you are unable to afford to live and then you die and the system repeats over and over again as new life is born. It's the snake eating its tail.
>>535394261These are the redditors of conservatives btw. There’s 3 dozen clones of the fatty at the bottom running around my little town.
>>535406576Cap executive salaries at a percent of the lowest wage earner of a corporation. Simple as. It will simultaneously decrease the wage gap, increase worker incentive, boost local economies, disincentivise shareholder decisions that gut a corporation due to the primary focus of the ceo shifting from removing company profits into the hands of investors and into the hands of the employees.
>>535406926That's not really an acceptable answer now is it?
The 15 dollar an hour discourse on here from 10 years ago was crazy in retrospect considering how low that is now lol
>>535406983It might not be the answer he wants but its the answer he gets. New life doesn't care about the qualms of old life dying and will repeat the cycle forever.
>>535394526People with Master’s Degrees can’t get anything in today’s job market.So they have to get job at McDonald’s that effectively pays less than Slavery since $15/hour isn’t covering modern expenses.
>>535406576>Why is it not possible to raise wages without raising the price of everything else?Businesses will charge more because people have more.>So if you're all so damn smart what's the actual answer then?If it was that easy it would have been solved already. In fact depending on your perspective its impossible to solve. For example, what if someone refuses to work. Do they get nothing? Do they get the same as the hardest worker? You have to define precisely what you want the outcome to be first. There will always be winners and losers whether fairly or unfairly and man is not fit to judge what is or isn't fair as seen by various failed equity/equality schemes.
>>535406779Thats not a typical situation. Most boomers didnt get houses until they were in their 30s. You can look up homeownership numbers going back to the turn of the 20th century, anon. Its remained largely unchanged. In fact, millenials have higher homeownership rates than boomers. Same with Gen x and it will be the same for Gen z now that they are reaching their 30s. You being under the impression that boomers all bought houses out of highschool is a fallacy with zero evidence to back it up and the evidence actually points to lower homeownership at the height of young adult boomer years (70s and 80s). Home ownership rates among adults aged 18-35 has remained largely unchanged for 100 years.
>>535401955They all have the same exact amount of buccal fat
>>535407217This is not even close to true. This is based on one scitzo with a masters in theoretical mathematics wage slaving because theyre too autistic to market themselves.You ever meet a masters degree holder without a job? No
>>535400795giving people the wrong food in their order is incredibly jewish because it stems from the systematic declining quality of life that jews have intentionally created
>>535394139I feel like this is America's version of NORF F.C. "What?? I like Abdul! It's great, he scores goals! It's our strength, the three lions. It's coming home!"
>>535396381Sure thing dweeb
>>535404650Spit your truth, king. Profit margins must be completely inelastic.
>>535407245>>535407401I wouldn't even say this is true because something changed from 2023 until today. And that is the jews undid their woke agenda. Young people still can't afford housing and birth rates are down. Just because the jews let off their woke propaganda doesn't nullify the facts. Or does it? Was i just brainwashed into inaction by the jews the entire time? Probably.
Lmfao at you plebs still arguing. Market goes up .05% and actual rich people make millions, more money than you will earn in your entire life while they're sitting at the beach or on vacation. You are all goycattle slaves.
>>535394139It's easy to hate large companies, but do you have the courage to hate small businesses?
>>535407961Being a perpetually online malcontent that never approaches women, spends anytime in education, or training for a career MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT.
Gen x/boomer neo-cons need shooting. They're no different to those freak millenials who believe they're in a teen-angst movie, but in this case, they're just laying down the lawwwwwrrr against these gen Z sissy liberals, eagerly waiting for a based black teenager to come along so he can "show em the ropes cuz demoncrats r the real racistsfaggots
>>535408122The biggest goycattle are the people busting their asses for boomer petty tyrants that pay like shit, offer no benefits, no advancement, and don't respect their employees time. These piece of shit small businesses are some of the worst employers to have.
>>535408122Yes but nobody remembers this consciously because the jews let go their woke agenda. Everyone thinks America is the best now so they want to go out and try their best. There is definitely an elite ruling class and a working class if you remember the paradise papers.>>535408254This is not true when the rich keep getting richer and the poor stay poorer. I am going by the logic that according to statistics the elite investor classes just keep gaining wealth while the working class do not. Just because people can afford a house working 50+ years doesn't mean they aren't oppressed. The only thing that changed was perception. People are still the same working class schlubs they are today as they were before. America to me seems like a 90s rehash when the corporations and bankers made people believe they were free and not oppressed. My statement was a getcha and you fell for it.
>>535408211You mean money laundering fronts for crime. Because that's what small buisness in America is. Still chump change to the mega corporations who make billions off slave labor and the US military opening capital markets. One is just done legally and the other in the black market.
>>535408535>biggest goycattleThat would be neets.
>>535408601>it takes 50 years to buy a houseYou're goycattle. Have you ever actually looked into buying a house or are you just repeating streamer rage-bait?
>>535408535Because small buisness is a front for crime. America was always a shitty nation that everyone was trying to fleece each other to avoid taxes and the law. America didn't become the richest nation in the world by being moral but it always had an angle that freedom was about being able to make money by exploiting something for personal gain. >>535409144These days it does and the government is offering 50 year mortgages. And yes i understand you can adjust your rates to pay more to pay less overall for a 20 year over a 30 year rate. The issue today is inflation and most of people's paychecks are being eaten up by it. So again the government is offering extending mortgage options so people can be more frugal with their incomes today but pay more overall tomorrow.
>>535409021This is bait.You know the president of the united states is on record saying he molested teenage girls. Trump's family or Drumph family made their wealth from exploiting gold miners by opening brothels thus draining the miners of their hard earned wealth. Trump is a notorious grifter(art of the deal) Art of the steal. Get it? And he's actively waging war against a foreign country(murder) for profit and nobody cares.You see America is corrupt and it's corrupt as a virtue and nobody cares. Nobody is putting their foot down and saying this is wrong we need to change. Nope, everyone wants to be part of the jackpot and make it rich. That's why Americans wage. They are dreaming of striking it rich one day. They play the lotto, they play the markets, they join the military to kill people. They all want to be rich like the president.
>>535409474The government doesn't set the interest rates but im not totally blind to the problems that exist today. I do notice a lot of young anons are falling into a goy trap of doomerisms which sucks their motivation from them. It is not as bad as people say that it is if you're being proactive. You have to get an education worth a shit which is hard work. You have to work your balls off. And if you want to make an impact you have to have some authority which comes from working hard and having an education. Its as simple as that. If you're not lucky enough to be born into a rich family you actually have to grind your ass off. Complaining and repeating rage-bait bullshit stats is not going to get you where you want to be.The "nothing is worth it" is the most jewish psyop ever. How would you even be able to upkeep anything you inherited? The banks will just take your inheritance (im talking your god given destiny) from you if you haven't prepared yourself for the responsibility.
Yep, dem damn liberals want free Healthcare? Yeah nah, that ain't happenin. What? I don't care that you're a single white man living paycheck to paycheck and have no health insurance, that ain't my problem! I need your tax dollars for my retirement checks so I can play slots at the north water casino this Saturday! Yepppp, merican dream keeps on winnin'
>>535410077>The "nothing is worth it" is the most jewish psyop ever. How would you even be able to upkeep anything you inherited? The banks will just take your inheritance (im talking your god given destiny) from you if you haven't prepared yourself for the responsibility.Because unless you are part of the elite investor class your wealth disappears when you die. Your estate is sold and your siblings squander the little wealth from the estates value. This is why Americans are working class and their parents were working and their parents were working class.It's a negative feedback loop and because Americans never hold onto real tangible wealth it always fizzles out. My kin in America sold the farm(that's real wealth which is now lost and gone forever). And now if i want money i must work for it and it won't allot to any lasting generational wealth when i die. So why work? It's a scam.
>>535409941I never brought up trump and if miners wanted to spend all their money whores who the fuck am I to say they can't? Im sure if you went into the mining towns and excoriated the miners for debaucherous whore-mongers they would have realized the error of their ways and not strapped dynamite to your chest and sent you into the mine on a cart without a canary. Just because you're so persuasive. ;)
>>535410372My dad lost entire fruit orchards and trucking companies at the fucking Casino to those rat bastard prarie niggers. These faggot boomers can't tell me anything.
>>535410429I am saying Trumps billionaire family made its fortune exploiting the working classes. It's not really a choice but coercion. You setup a mine and you offer the temptation of alcohol and prostitution(which is illegal mind you). So i read most miners would die from tuberculous so the mine is the trap and the brothel is cash grab. Just a conveyer belt of using people to amass gold. That's why Trump likes gold because gold made him rich.
>>535410411Yikes. You are far down the rabbit hole of doomerism. You are just spinning your wheels wasting the years where your brain and body work the best. I hope you shake yourself out of it.
>>535394526>Maybe get a skill that isn't the MINIMUM?Because I'd tell you what son, people still need a fucking roof over their heads and food to eat, they aren't magic pixies sustained entirely on the ether, they are human beings, that's a fact, you can argue with me, but you cain't argue with mathematics. You can keep playing these silly games son, but it's just going to lead to you getting choked to death by a nigger in a nursing home.
>>535411039No i am fully rational and understand there are masters and their are slaves. America has so many billionaires because the masses are slaves to be exploited.And i have already seen many people around me and my family die. I understand there's no glory in wasting your life to pay off a mortgage. Your house just goes and is divvied up after you die and nobody remembers you.
>>535410866So what? That has nothing to do with your 5,10,20 year plan. And if it does I hope you're an aspiring pimp taking notes because if not you're just working yourself up for no reason. Also, prostitution wasnt made illegal in the u.s until the early 1900s, long after the gold boom.
>>535411039>Yikes. You are far down the rabbit hole of boomerism.FTFY
Mister PresiDent gib mony pls. The chiner aint buying no beans and the diesel done got expensive
>>535411315There are many ways to exploit people. Many, many ways. It's obvious when you wake up and realize people are not inherently good and will exploit the weak as a virtue. And that's what capitalism is and always has been. I don't know what you mean by my supposed 5 to 10 to 20 year plan. I never mentioned anything like that of the sort. There's no plan and there's no solution. Humanity is a doomed species.
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>>535411626This comes across as a very insecure. Every generation has people that think this is the last generation. Literally every mythos in human history talks about the end is nigh but here we are. Its such a wasted effort that could be remedied if you would spend half as much time getting good at reality as you do creating a false-appocalyspe that youre just "living through". Shit be simultaneously shit and not doomed. Have you never had a near-death experience? Get the fuck out of your own way, anon. This is a very unhealthy path to go down. Especially when you have predicated most of your posts on literal fake and gay propaganda like "boomers had it so easy by comparrison so why should I even put in any effort".Even if you could afford a mortgage, could you even be bothered to fix anything wrong with the house?
>>535394139REDDIT TIER STRAW MANNINGPicrel represents actual reality
>>535412733Humanity is inherently a doomed species but new life will arrive like i mentioned before. New life is ignorant and will make mistakes like birthing new life. You see the cycle continues whether i like it or not. I only gained wisdom after the fact and life doesn't care. The weak will continue to be exploited by the strong and the cycle will never end. I can only warn and educate those against rash decisions using my newfound wisdom. Because apparently you don't understand new life is very ignorant and can be manipulated. This isn't about me and my supposed house but humanity in general can't even fix itself.
>>535413007>Can't raise minimum wage because it will kill jobs.>Can't raise taxes on the billionaires that own more money than god because it will kill jobs.>"it will kill jobs!" argument never seemed to apply to Corporations that are more than happy to replace 50% of their workforce with AI, with no pushback at allFucking goycattle.
>>535413147>I can only warn and educateThis exchange began when you made the false claim that boomers had higher home ownership at your age than you do. Now you have gone full doomer. Pic 100% rel. But also, stay off drugs.
>>535394139You need like 23$ an hour in California just to live with your parents.
>>535394749That's fine, we'll just kill you and take your shit, boomer
>>535414351So move? Its not a secret that the california government is adversarial towards its citizens. >hurrrr durrr I can't just moveLiteral skill issue. If your entire worth is tied to being a brokie ass bitch in a single county you are a dried up old stick.
>>535394139You dont know shit about economics or "the minimum wage". You have no clue why the minimum wage actually hurts people. You just parot garbage on pol and think you are cool.
Zoomer bros, what are we going to do in the future?
>>535417360you will die in large numbers
My wife makes my lunch before she breastfeeds my children.I pay her a lot more than $15/hr and she deserves it.
I can hate billionaires and people demanding unjust compensation for what is, essentially, a job for teenagers simultaneously. Op is fag
