The entire 60 years of finance bubbles was built on the idea that the US Bond market is always going to remain a "riskless" cashflow. At 0 the bond market simply doesnt exist anymore and 60 years of leverage is going to unwindhttps://vocaroo.com/12M7jKoY1kj6https://vocaroo.com/1hFhQtUT9Spmhttps://vocaroo.com/16JKM4AhbaUghttps://vocaroo.com/1dNk26TtRob2https://vocaroo.com/19hLENlaJh9Vhttps://vocaroo.com/1jUq94STFREXhttps://vocaroo.com/1iEQrXuG4Sk2https://vocaroo.com/1cufuznQatIFGlobal state failure. If you rely on the "public" to keep you alive, no matter if NEET or public employed you died today
>sell your children's future for the sake of your pension>it doesn't work and you go broke anywaybased boomers
>>535401522>vocaroo
>>535401522ok so everyone will kill boomers and take all pensions? whats gonna happen. Line go up. What doea it mean?
>>535401592Its hilarious, and it was deterministic, the moment all boom booms are trying to cash in and become a factually negative cashflow on the ponzi the ponzi breaks.They were satanistic loyalists for 40 years, and their karmic reward is dying in their own shit and piss, likely killed by those they collaterized
>>535401657Ut always ends the same way, nobody knowing who owns and owes what anymore, and same as after the Soviet Union, the one with the least moral scruple and willing to do business with a gun and a shovel is going to be the winner — the future "Oligarchs"
>>535401702But trump will use "stable coins" to print demand out of thin air and there. Problem solved with "finance magic"
>>535401810>2T ponzi market>that is already a releveraged pyramid scheme based on UST bonds>is going to bail out a ponzi that is 40T in the holelol
>>535401522You identify a problem in finance (the liquid market backed by the lender of last resort is in trouble), but make it so absolute the point is completely lost. This just means America will be less wealthy as soon as their ‘roaring economy’, backed by reckless tax cuts and deficits loses steam. And it’s not even a given it will easily run out of steam. It simply isn’t Armageddon
>>535401522>boomer ponziconomy is overI don't speak Hindi. Can you try that in English so that I can know if I should be happy or upset by this?>>535401798>the one with the least moral scruple and willing to do business with a gun and a shovel is going to be the winnerGotcha, so you've never achieved any milestone of adult life because "the system" is rigged against you, but in 2 more weeks you're going to transform into a ruthless raider warlord and come out on top?Post pics of your rifle with timestamp.>—Which LLM are you using to come up with this shit?>>2T ponzi market>>that is already a releveraged pyramid scheme based on UST bonds>>is going to bail out a ponzi that is 40T in the holeSo is that good or bad? How many more weeks do we have to prepare for all of that and what are you personally doing to position your assets to best take advantage of all of that?
>>535402150That would be true, if US Bonds wouldnt back pretty much every secondary layer ponzi all around the planet. energy, UST bond collaterized, crapto UST bond collaterized, "AI" companies UST Bond collaterized, the Armenian pension system UST Bond collaterized, real estate in central Asia, UST Bond collaterized; Diaper factory in Lebanon, solar panel mill in China, UST Bond collaterized.Its over
>>535402431Its not 2 weeks. The date to watch is the 21 July 2026 UST Bond auction. But it looks like the market is front running the failure by 2 months
>>535401522>ponzieconomyyes normal trends going too far......
>>535401522And to think we're giving these guys 12% of our salaries to vote for the destruction of the US. Boomers are underhated. The world has gone to shit since they took power in the late 90s and 00s.
>>535402734If you work a regular job that extorts you through your employer on the pay check, you are a cuck. The way to go since latest November 2025 was independent and not declaring income for 2025, let alone pay taxes
2 more peaks?
>>535401522Nobody is seeing the obvious thing. Its the gulf countries refusing to buy debt notes to fuck the US and stop them from attacking iran. China is dumping treasuries and Japan is tapped out. Their banking system cannot handle it anymore. Its pretty funny
>>535401657>ok so everyone will kill boomers and take all pensions?That's already been taken care of. The purpose of the vaxx was to shorten lifespan enough people won't spend long on pensions, and reduce population by supressing fertility for the coming AI job apocalypse.
>>535403289China hasnt dumped treasuries for 2 years, they started to buy again; it isnt enough. The only solution WAS defualt before November 2025 and a restructuration and haircut for the creditors. After Novemver 2025, default means end of global trade
>>535403289Gulf states bought bonds because america offered them the pax. America has not only failed to do that, they have fucked shit up. It's not just gulf states. The only people you haven't fucked over in the whole world at some time are Estonians. Perhaps they will buy your shitty paper
guys how over is it rn
>>535401522you idiots can't see what's coming huhThey are going to unload the UAP tech onto private corporations to boost innovation/profits. All brushed under the rug as "AI". save this
>>535403671Now it isn't over, but it will soon be.
>>535403700>innovationthis isnt the 2010s. You cant scam a Millenial cfo the same as you were able to scam a Boomer cfo with "ids da future" gibs loan
>>535403379>The purpose of the vaxxIf it was only killing boomers that would be fine, but it's killing the goys whose debnts underpin the currency and the bonds. How are 33 million unvaxxed mixed race Americans going to pay 40T
This financialized house of cards with infinite money printing, bailouts and other Jewish tricks can be propped up for another 5 years or so.tldr - BUY THE DIP
>>535403712Don't know. My bet was July, but it appears that due to everyone that got forced by legislators to buy up bankrupt sovereign bond ponzis went for short term 2 months and therefore I might have been off by 2 months09 of June might be the end
>>535403700Trump can just sell Australia to the Chinese. That will fund Medicaid until 2029
>>535404046no it cant. >p-please buy my baglol, you had a year to sell
How do I make money off this? Buy bitcoin?
>>535403800If the UAP tech can produce cheaper electricity, it determines the winner of the AI race. You're a fool if you think the US would not unload this to win the AI race.
>>535404111Nah, these scumbags always pull it in autumn. They want to enjoy a summer of degeneracy like everyone else.
>>535401522Looks like they got bond burgered
>>535404214Lol, no, Buttcorn price is a function of stable corn ponzis buying up UST bonds, using them as collateral, issuing stable cons and "pumping" the buttcorn price.When the US T bond price goes toward 0, buttcorn goes as well toward 0. The same is true for every other asset. From shiny rocks, over real estate to tech ponzis and diaper factories in Lebanon. You want puts an assload of puts for June, July, August
>>535404305Goddamn it anon.
>>535404232They started on sukkot; rosh Hashanah is on Sept 11 this year
>>535404228>AI racetake your retarded marketing shit to shitter and be ignored there. The circular ponzi around nvidia and oracle dies with the bond market>>535404232I doubt it, everything points toward the end of the road in July
>>535401522they've got at least another generation or two of juice left. bet against the system at your peril.
>>535404143Oi, Nothing can save the US economy, we don't need them any longer either, in fact they're a menace to the new global order that's forming. There is no way a nation can pay off a credit card debt of 40 trillion dollars when the person holding the credit card is renowned as the world's greatest liar and fraud. It's just going to accelerate the more scams that are run.
>>535404484You'll get a headfake sell off soon, but the real fun doesn't start till the weather cools. Technicals be damned.
>>535404484Some of our niggers have told the foreign niggers to get out by June 30 or they will burn them. Since everything is interrelated south africa going up in flames might be timed
>>535404527They dontparticipation rate looking at the entire population is 60%Prime age men and women 80%that means already 1/5 defectedTo keep the ponzi up the participation rate in the prime age needs to go to 120%so where are the 50% of cucks paying 2000 dollar into ponzis per month and taking 30 year loans supposed to come from
>>535404414You know what they say:>Sell Rosh Hashanah; buy Yom Kippur>Maybe don't buy Yom Kippur this year
>>535402607So two more months? Not translate the rest of your nigger-speak into English and try to explain what we all should be doing to prepare for whatever it is that's happening in 2 more months.>>535402815So to prepare for the upcoming collapse you're doing fuck-all nothing?
>>535404673I hear India has an endless supply of very willing sirs
>>535404642This is no technicals, this is the first time in 40 years where fundamentals count. And the fundamentals are a barrage of worst case scenarios all at the same time.Private credit market deadcommercial real estate ponzi deadreal estate ponzi dyingpension funds dyingparticipation rate going sub 50s with women in the work force>>535404659Possible, South Africa is at the end of the day also just a tertiary ponzi layer of UST bonds despite the BRICS larping
>>535404903https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar/bonds>nothingI have been loaded with puts since December. I have already made out like a bandit shorting tech outside of the main ponzis, shorting energy after the pump, shorting shiny rocks, shorting banks. And those where the bets that I expected to expire worthless
>>535402431>Gotcha, so you've never achieved any milestone of adult life because "the system" is rigged against you, but in 2 more weeks you're going to transform into a ruthless raider warlord and come out on top?Did you even understand what he wrote? He only described how today's eastern bloc oligarchs acquired their wealth; how could that trigger this response in your brain?
>>535403379How many more weeks until all the women are lined up for your unvaccinated seed? What are you doing with yourself while you're waiting for all that to come through for you?
>>535404635Aussies are more fucked than the mutts. Your 10y been over 5% for two weeks. Waiting to see if BOE or Aus CB intervene first.
>>535401522Being a neet is nice. It is like a never ending vacation, but shit will eventually break down, that's probably why the commune police guys always keeps an eye on me and want me to slave my life away for zog. I have some tools I'd love to try out on shitskins, but they have no idea
>>535404970I don't disagree with what you're reading, but the problem is that it's not a secret; they aren't going to tip you off like that. Unless my schizo intuition is correct that something kinetic happens this holiday weekend or July 4th, it's going to be just a little while longer.
>>535401522white middleclass men sitting on their ass watching their president kill the country.the carnage coming for these MAGA terrorists will make the Holocaust look like a bedtime story.I want these rural shitstain communities tortured, slaughtered, upended and burned to ashes so history will never forget: Never go full retard like white men did.
>>535405127Anyone chained to the USD is screwed. The euro and the yen definitely are too. And probably the CHF as well.
>>535405127The BOE had the house do the dirty work. Pension funds in the UK are forced to bail out the failed gilt auctions.
>>535403289>Its the gulf countries refusing to buy debt notes to fuck the US and stop them from attacking iran.nah most US debt is held by Europe and Japan, the raghead nations are pretty irrelevent as are you. You should not even be on this site, you don't belong.
>>535404214>>535404358.>>535401592buy gold and gold miners
>>535405430>nah most US debt is held by Europe and JapanLmao
>>535404903>what we all should be doing to prepareAnon, you seem to be one of the good ones, not one of the Americans who forced us to give our country to niggers or currently trying to genocide us. Your contribution to this thread has been positive and thoughtful. So here's a tip, nfts are making a comeback. Bored ape in blues and greens
>>535405182A copper who doesnt receive a check or who stops believing that the entitlements he got promised are worh anything is going to stop enforcing the law. Same as in every other failed state to date. Keep some cigarettes ready when hunting shitskins to bribe the coppers>>535405211going by the last fed minutes a classic vail out by the fed is off the table, hell there are even governors that seem to float the idea of rate hikes instead of cuts. It has never been that over in the entire history of the USA>>535405286Switzerland and Luxembourg are fucked. Both being parking lots for US debt are likely going to go back to late 19th century agrarian piss poor shitholes
>>535405566Lmao. You'd like that, wouldn't you? We're almost self-sufficient. Our industries are strong, and so is our trade surplus. We'd just lose large portions of our foreign assets. Thats it.
>>535405245based
>>535405461Yup. And you should be back in India. you;re that lad who got all thiose hindus lives destoyed the pratty lad. They call jees pratties here and bully them because of you your posts were left all over the pubs and the indian takeaways got boycotted and all went broke.Anywayhttps://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RS22331pic relatted
>>535401522Another anon said it best in the previous thread:>stocks go up, bond prices go down, yields go up>stocks go down, bond prices go up, yields go down>both are rising as companies buy back into themselves>why? because financial elites believe the usa will still be a major power in 50 years>considering we hold all the tech, seems likelyIt's a nothing burger that will correct itself EOY. >inb4 NOOOOOOO!!!Tell me exactly where I am wrong. Go ahead. I'll wait.>inb4 some snarky quipThat's what I fucking thought. I'm gonna buy more Nvidia this upcoming paycheck.
>>535405566September 15-16 FOMC has the summary of economic projections bullshit. Darsh could hike then and precipitate it in line with what I'm saying.
>>535405763You didn't write "foreign debt holder", my uneducated friend.>>535405430>nah most US debt is held by Europe and Japan
>>535405736You'[re not european you're that wierd little indian that sared the ani-Indian thing wih the shit you spewed here , you're famous. There was even a pub with a picture of your face on a dartboard
>>535405566I wish I could short swiss chocolate makers like lindt. The cocoa bubble has popped but their shares haven't dropped
>>535405857You don't need to be so embarrassed about your mistake. It happens to everyone. Especially with your level of education.
>>535405845I've more education than you you chancer, your qualifactions are all fake and plagarised.
>>535405736what industries? The suppliers for the bankrupt German chemical, pharmaceutical and chemical industries? You are aware Germany is committing economic and political suicide because the blockparties are afraid of their grift ending with the AfD taking a Land or two.The are already floating around the idea of cutting off AfD Länder with Preussen Schlag scenarios which ironically is the end of Germany and Thüringen and Sachsen-Anhalt declaring autonomy
>>535405943So you understand that the biggest holders of american debt are americans?
>>535405824The FED is between a rock and a hard place. If it hikes looking at the galloping inflation, the US breaks, if it cuts to prevent a USSR scenario it goes hyperinflation and buys maybe a quarter before the US breaks. One or another way, its simply over. Who knows maybe there is some "tradition" to kill the Boomer paradigm off in autumn, but if its July August or September doesnt matter, the game is over>>535405783>p-please buy my bagWhat you observe with what you describe is the last twitching of a ponzi corpse, or rather a stranded whale in a desert that is about to explode due to gas build up. The stock ponzi market is just a function of the bond market, a secondary ponzi layer, if the primary layer collapses, the secondary, tertirary... layers collapse as wellThere is no capital, just uncovered debt, backed by the fantasy that US debt is "riskless cashflow"
>>535404673>so where are the 50% of cucks paying 2000 dollar into ponzis per month and taking 30 year loans supposed to come fromI know the answer to that conundrum... Hows importing 100million jeets sound?
>>535406410The 2010s import of virtual debt collateral is one of the reasons that the ponzi is breaking now and not in the mid 30s. The imports were contrary to the boomer fantasy not a net positive but a net negative on labor and credit market
>>535405958Pharmaceuticals and gold smelting alone are enough to maintain our standard of living. Then there are mechanical engineering companies and a host of smaller global market leaders in many different sectors. But since we operate almost entirely independently of imports anyway, it doesn't really matter. Even for an emergency, we have stockpiled huge amounts of food, household goods, and even fertilizer/machine parts. We are the prepper nation at the state level.
>>535406540They've got a few more shytery tricks up their sleeves to keep this ponzi house of cards scheme going for another few decades, there is still some gas left in the tank - the real fun will begin when the national debt hits 100Trillion
>>535401522Nah, I'd win. Dying is for faggots.
>>535406391>ponzi>ponzi>ponziIt's a documented fact the more someone says a word, the less they understand it. Are you that fuckhead Austrian from the last thead? Do they pay you to act retarded?>Doesn't dispute anything.>Give Doomer shit instead.
>>535406550The mechanical engineering is just suppliers for the dead German car industry; its not different in Austria btw, this country is also fucked. And gold smelting? Seriously, that's your example. And "prepper nation", lol — enjoy a repetition of the late 19th century
>>535406673First, they need to get the Strait open again. Otherwise, it could act as an extreme fire accelerant.
>>535406410>100million jeetsThat's enough to prop Canada up; America would need 600M; then Australia, UK.. you gonna run out of jeets
>>535406757>oil prices sky rocket>america / canada sitting on the 8th and 3rd largest oil reserves>plus they now proxy control the #1 of VenezuelaWill be an interesting play out
>>535406806>Canada 100M>USA 600MThats only 700million jeets, less than 50% of their populationSo India will have 100million jeets left, and they'll ship the 1.4billion other of them around the world
>>535405066>I have already made out like a bandit shorting techGood for you, anon. Seems like just a few months ago you were delivering door-dash and robbing elderly people. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/boomerx%20ponzi/I've got to go get ready for the complete collapse of civilization in a couple months. See you tomorrow.
>>535401522gold standard solves this
>>535406673the gas is out with the demographic pyramid inverted, the general participation rate going toward the 50% and 1/5 in the prime age already having defected. And yes among that 5th are NEETS, Imports and tax evaders>>535406732What else is the stock market than a secondary layer ponzi that relies for its valuation to have at one hand the underlying collateral of UST Bonds remaining globally a trusted asset and at the other hand an ever increasing amount of suckers buying out the demographic overhang that is in distribution.The entire ponzi relied on credit expansion and that credit being used to buy out ponzi shares.Less demand, price doesnt just go down, as it is a re-hypothecation pyramid scheme with a ponzi on top, price can go negative — your asset stops being an asset and becomes a liability
>>535401648Lurk 2 more years before posting
>>535406997I still do that too.Robbed an elder couple this weekend and still driving door dash so my portfolio is never going to be known by the state
>>535402431Be honest: How tight is your asshole?
>>535406997>t. retard who can't read a chart
>>535402506ok I'll check back in with you in a few weeks
>>535406754>And gold smelting? Seriously, that's your example.I don't know how it works myself. But apparently, we're the only nation in the world that can produce four nine gold. That's why all the world's gold is sent to us. A significant export industry.>The mechanical engineering is just suppliers for the dead German car industryGermany accounts for only one fifth of exports.>And "prepper nation", lol — enjoy a repetition of the late 19th centuryThis is only for absolute emergencies. We have significantly more bunker space than inhabitants. And we've stored pretty much everything we need to survive for decades, including enough crap to rebuild the country if necessary. We honestly just don't know what to do with all this money. This is what came of it.
>>535407052You are absolutely correct. However, it’s like saying “legs on a ladder solves this” as we’re atop a 1000’ ladder with no legs on our way down to the ground.
>>535406885America will collapse if it can no longer pay for its imports. If it were truly only about oil, trump wouldn't have stopped bombing. But the USD is america's export champion.
>>535407052>gold standard solves thisIt wouldn't have caused this to happen and would instead have triggered occasional minor crashes. Unfortunately, simply switching back doesn't work.>>535407339this
>>535407241Just keep an eye on the coverage rates and yields of bond auctions, the moment a US Bond auction has a coverage rate of under 0.8 or they spike yields, visit your state parliament and burn it, during session
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>>535401657>Line go up. What doea it mean?line go up means the current bond holders cant cash out, because nobody pays them what they paid for it, because they can just get new bonds for a better deali know, a little hard to understand, but "line go up" (in the bond market) means the price is fucking crashing. what you're looking at is a massive multi-trillion dollar fucking global crash
maybe we should balance the budget then bond rates wont matter
>>535412146its about 40 years too late for that. and the controlled default and restructuring is not an option anymore. Trump truly fucked up, but so did every congress and potus for the past 60 years, except carter, and he was shunned by the boomers and gen s for trying.
>>535402506Armenian boomers are FUCKED
>boomer ponziconomy >it's the boomers, fellow goykys
>>535413760So are all pension pay as you go ponzis. Spain recently was caught using "Covid EU" funds to fund its bankrupt ponzi pension scheme.
Monetary sovereigns don't need to sell bonds to finance themselves. They don't need their own money from the population. They spend their own money unit into existence.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqoghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ZUJbl829E
>>535414226get lost mmt communist faggotYes, in your fantasy world neither inflation, the need for an active population or gravity exists. Its known you are batshit insane retards
>>535414330Inflation can be managed effectively with taxation and channeling government spending effectively toward production and infrastructure that lowers the cost of doing business. Assuming that there is no corresponding increase in goods and services is not a good assumption.Because the government issues the money, and because money is a tool to motivate labor and organize resources, the government has a lot of power to direct the population to participate in labor.And a certain amount of inflation, assuming more equitable distribution, is not the end of the world. Paying off debt also is deflationary, as it deletes money from the supply. So putting more people to work will help people pay down debt, help them need less debt in the future, and get better terms when they do need/want it.
>>535401522Boomers made a deal with the devil to sell out>their children...>and their grandchildren...>and their great grandchildren...Boomers thought the economy would hold out for another couple decadesBoomers thought they would be dead by the time things completely fell apartBoomers were lied to about the timing of the inevitable crashBoomers will lose everythingBoomers are too old to riot over itBoomers got burned by the fire the Devil let them play with
>>535414727>Government spending is gooooood>inflation is "manageable">Just suck the polity dick and cooperateCommunist, a hole in the ground for you, your parents and your off spring is still to humane of a dead
>>535414979>BOOMERSThey didnt vote for the 1965 heart celler act, jews pushed that forward and slipped it by the "greatest" generation. Every time an anon sees the word BOOMER he should mentally replace it with JEW. Dont hate your pleb fathers for jewish crimes, goyim.
How do I find other neet anons so we can band together with our guns and mall katanas so our chances or survival are better in the SHTF world where normies start cannibalizing themselves? Assume the internet and power are down.
>>535415053Government spending is necessary. Where else is the money coming from at origin? The government has to spend before anyone else has anything to tax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGuNpqYBkZk
>>535404635>we don't need them any longer either,That's right because you'll be speaking chinese soon, like it or not.
>>535415167I hear ya and I tend to agree. However, 50 years of television has turned most boomers into status-quo defending automatons.
>>535415563>its necessaryLMFAOno, it isnt. I have no demand for a dmv clerk, a diveristy manager, a polity assistant in another statePublic spending is just communism. And every public financed leech, no matter if private or public deserves dead and the dead of his fucking family
>>535401522Are you the "BoomerX" Strudelkopf?Your threads are usually very good.
>>535415563also>the gibermint has to spend before money is createdWHAT THE FUCKyou really got brainwashed to dead by marxistsIf I want money, I go to a bank and get a loan, or I make business with somebody that got a loan, no need for the gubermint in the mix
>>535415766Where is the money coming from at origin? You're just using buzzwords, like you did yesterday. You're not addressing the operational question being asked of you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JTn7GS4oAI highly encourage lurkers to actually watch the videos being posted, read books about this topic.
>>535415910You're not worth engaging with. You're not intellectually honest.
>>535401522They're just going to tell you that AI took all the jobs, thats what this bubble is about. The truth is the Jews' con is coming home to roost after decades of kicking the can down the road
>>535415984its risk, not money. you fucking marxist idiot.I take risk, by taking a loan, the bank takes risk for giving me a loan, the banks clients take risk by storing their currency in the bank. no where in that mix the gubermint is needed, fucking communist
>>535416040Communist. Its really about time, that the gubermints sovereign bond ponzi is crooking over, because you need to be taken back to reality, At best with steelcapped boots removing your fucking face
>>535415167Most of the brown people in america didn't come from that they came from walking across the southern border
>2 moar weekz 4 realz this time guise
>>535401522everyone is drowning in student loans, mortgages, credit cards, medical bills, rent arrears, payday loans and we have a mental health crisis in every single country, no one is having children, people work to pay rent or interest yet /pol/ is too busy crying about niggers and trannies instead of pushign for COMPLETE DEBT ERASURE (CDE)you know why? Because /pol/ is compromised. The world is fucked and everyone knows we need a reset but >NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIESmuh >NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIES>NIGGERS AND TRANNIESFuck every single one of you, you deserve to live in this hell we have created for ourselves
>>535412146it's anti-semitic for not spending more than you make, goy
>>535416537There is a single answer, just stop paying. The bank took risk giving you a loan, there bad if you stop paying. The gubermint took risk rolling over 6 decades of debt, their bad if the debt is not refinancable. Banks and funds bought sovereign ponzi bonds and took the risk. Their bad if the return is negative
>>535403550>The only solution WAS defualt before November 2025 and a restructuration and haircut for the creditors. After Novemver 2025, default means end of global tradeCan you elaborate on these two points, please?
>>535415563>Government spending is necessary. Where else is the money coming from at origin? The government has to spend before anyone else has anything to tax.You can dig it out of the ground, mint it into coins, then spend it into the economy, ya dingus.
Trade US $'s that are rapidly losing purchasing power for real goods. Productive land with a clean water source in a lightly populated rural area Quality shelter Quality firearms and ammunition. A good semi auto pistol and extra magazines. A quality AR or AK pattern long rifle and a quality bolt action rifle with a quality scope. A good shotgun is also a good idea. 500 rounds of ammo for each pistol and 1,000 rounds of ammo as well as extra magazines for each long gun. Guns and ammunition are proving to be as good a hedge against the devalue of our currency as anything else. Gold and silver bullion. A good woman.Invest your time to protect your family and raise your children.
>>535416861Why would you want to limit your economic activity to a specific amount of a particular commodity?There is no reason to take goldbugs seriously at all. The entirety of the 20th century has proven them to be fools.
>>535416954>Trade US $'s that are rapidly losing purchasing power for real goods.The solution to this is more straightforward than you think -- increase the supply of domestically available goods. Even if that means a pared down variety, or material substitution, or altered consumption patterns.
>>535416829What is there to elaborate? A haircut means that the creditors of the bonds, pension funds and banks mostly would have eaten losses, instead of getting X+interests back at maturity, they would have gotten x -20% back or non at all. Restructuring would mean that the maturities would have to be adapted. A 10 year is now a 20 year, a 2 months is now a 6 months..., that would have given room to breath and further do reforms, like adapting actual entitlement payouts, polity wages and pensions, bureaucrats would have gotten payment freezes.....That would have been possible wothout shaking the bond market too much in 2025. In 2026, with the commerical realt estate ponzi havig gone belly up, the privat credit market factually bankrupt, a haircut, a restructuring puts so much pressure on the global financial system it would just die, like in banks go bankrupt, funds go bankrupt, margin calls on loans that have no liquid markets.... It woudl be the Soviet Union, but on a global scale
>>535417075Communist, your voodoo metrics of "GDP" are not convincing anybody that "public spending" is anything but hyperinflation and degrading of purchasing powerdo the world a favor marxist and jump off a bridge, before somebody decides that you and your loved ones that got financed by never to be born children have conusmed their life and now need to die in a fire
Oh nice it’s austrianon.
will this bring us death to america or no?>>535403651>The only people you haven't fucked over in the whole world at some time are Estoniansgive it a few more months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FvYmBq1jg
>>535417170I think we are past the event horizon. Debt to GDP is now 100% and rising bond yields mean rising debt service costs. The only answer the federal reserve has is to print US$ debt instruments which brings us quickening inflation. The only way to protect yourself is to trade US $'s for real productive assets as quickly as you can. By real productive assets, I mean a bolt hole for your family in a rural, lightly populated area with a quality water source.
>>535417332Thanks.I'm gonna leave picrelated here fwiw.It's the "allerhochheiligste Statistik" of the German character (and country, of course.)Number not going up in perpetuity any longer,instead number shrinking and being as smol as January '23.
>>535418046Okay. There's a lot wrong here. Debt-to-GDP doesn't actually matter. Japan has been like ~260% for a long time. Monetary sovereigns don't need to sell bonds to finance themselves. And if they want to sell bonds, there is no actual market mechanism that forces them to up yields -- the central bank and the treasury are monopoly operations. They make the market.If no one wants to buy bonds, just leave the reserves in the banking system. If banks are happy earning near-zero on reserves, why would you try to pay them more?
I only have an oz of gold and a few oz of silver, how fucked am I?
>>535418283The foreign countries that own US debt are selling so there is no outlet for US debt instruments. US debt instruments are falling in price which cause yields to rise. If America can not export it's debt our inflation comes home. That is what we are seeing now. The purchasing power of the US $ is falling at a quickening rate. That is why the smartest option is to trade US$'s for real assets as quickly as you can.
>>535418639>The foreign countries that own US debt are selling so there is no outlet for US debt instruments. US debt instruments are falling in price which cause yields to rise.Okay. Again -- monetary sovereigns do not need to sell bonds to finance themselves. I can't make that any clearer. The US government doesn't need to borrow its own money. It doesn't matter if no one wants to buy a bond.
>>535418782If the federal reserve does not want to buy the bond it does matter that foreign monetary sovereigns do not want US debt. If the US federal reserve is forced to create debt electronically to purchase outstanding debt you have infinite money to chase a finite supply of goods which is the definition of hyperinflation.
>>535401810Stablecoins are merely adjuncts to the eurodollar system.
>>535401522Theyre piling into bonds because of Kevin Warsh
>>535419133>forced to create debtGovernment spending is always debt because it is created from nothing. Selling bonds doesn't change the amount of debt out there -- it changes the form. From non-interest bearing (currency) to interest bearing (securities).
>>535418377How many guns to protect it?
what the fuck happened? oil? Shouldnt it be going down after visit to china? what the fuck did they negotiate that it's so bad?
>>535416757>There is a single answer, just stop paying.>knock knock police open up *bang bang* *sirens*
>>535404214nonow you SELLyou buy after shit hits the fan
>>535419420The federal reserve being forced to by US Treasury's because foreign demand for UST's falls does increase US debt. It is the text book definition of hyperinflation. trillions of $'s of debt instruments need to be created to roll over trillions of $'s of debt instruments. Commercial RE is collapsing, household debt is collapsing and foreign sovereign nations are refusing US debt. The only answer is to reduce your exposure to US $ denominated debt instruments.
>>535419777There simply is not enough collapse in productive capacity to support your theory of hyperinflation. There is too much production. We are not Zimbabwe.
>>535419903That's cool Bro. You do you.
>>535401702In the revolution, anyone within that age range is a moving target for me. No questions asked
>>535404673prime age is worthless it's like 20% of the population that's the real tragedy of demographics
>>535401702The Boomer end game has always been to kick the can down the road just far enough that they don't live to see the results. Some of the younger ones are gonna get caught out but the older ones are successfully dying before it comes apart
>>535419534>the "state" has infinite mercenaries to enforce paper laws>they are totally not on average 59 desk sharters with declining recruitement numberslol — austria went from totally 55K mercenaries to now roughly 45K, 10K either went into "retirement" or quit after the coof fashism, and they are no managing to fill the ranks>>535420102Its not a tragedy for the world, its the dead of 65 years of ponzi scheming on a deflating demographic. The only one for who it is a tragedy is the leeches and communist bastards that collaterized never to be born children to emit themselves riskless debt liquidity and drove inflation, and honestly there is non among that group that doesnt deserve to be put in a hole, have gasoline put over him and be set aflame, together with his entire family and social circle
>>535420268>The Boomer end game has always been to kick the can down the road just far enough that they don't live to see the results.Why are they like this? What psyop made them out to be unlike any of their predecessors?
>>535420674try to write that without having a stroke
>>535403550the plan was default wouldnt happen before america was ready for a command economy. thats why theyre doing everything to build data centers
>>535420808What? Are you one of the leeches that longed a 20th century ponzi pyramid scheme at the tail end of its life and are now wondering how he is going to pay for his Vodka? Though luck faggot if thats the case; public employed and subsidized are not going to see mercy, they chose that life, they choe to be loyalists, there is no way out, except dead
they will just lateral move to digital dollar that they all had a chance to invest in before you
>>535419305Stablecoins bring eurodollars into us jurisdiction through proxy they also devour us bonds as collateral directly.>>535401522Yield curve control and a return to 1930-1971 roosveltian/peronist national socialism was always needed, just like argentina got debt to gdp rate lower between 2001 and 2011 or usa from 1945 to 1960.The question is why the fuck the us gov is pushing some of the infrastructure in place for this like stablecoins (so the usd inflates against crypto allowing us savers to save and spenders to spend), while also outright doing boomerism wage supression.These two don't go together the idea of running a yield curve control model is to make inflation higher than bond yields and make wages go up so in real terms debt to gdp rate goes lower relative to existing debt.You can't run this model with wage supression so it's starting to freak me the fuck out the levels of boomerism we are seeing.
>>535421766No, the usa has many reasons not to move to a digital dollars like the ton of usd in circulation in cash outside burgerland in fact most cash ends up outside burgerland.The ecb tough that's a serious problem, they have an incentive to keep france alive at any cost to keep the larp going and if that means capital controls and mass poverty they will do it.
>>535421789YCC and other Japanification models require something that the US lacks, btw the entire world outside of Japan lacks; social cohesion, homogenity and a long rooted traditionn to "suffer together" for social peace.It wouldnt be the first time a pissed of population hangs a governance structures agents that fucked up. Its rather a normal cyclical occurrence outside of Europe. Japanifaction is a feever dream
>>535415167Silent Generation1928–1945Baby Boomers1946–1964Generation X1965–1980Millennials1981–1996Generation Z1997–2012By1982 even the youngest boomers could vote and they were this HUGE voting bloc that (due to sheer numbers) had more than one generation worth of voting power. You are right that almost no boomer could vote in 1965 - but anything past 1982 they own. It's been almost half a century and a lot of damage has been done that can very fairly be blamed on the boomersWhat did it cost to buy the future of the entire western world from boomers?>Their Zillow estimate line go upand>Their 401k line go upThey thought they would be dead before it all came crashing down - and they really miscalculated. Now they are going to find themselves helpless in a nation dominated demographically by people that hate them for their raceWhat is going on with MAID up in Canada? Well it's young brown people coming in and saying "Keep the old white people alive? Hell no. That's too expensive. Just kill them"Boomers imported their own executioners and they hoped the axe wouldn't be sharpened until after they had already lived a long life and died of old ageThey really miscalculated
>>535401810Trump and bessent do not seem to know what they are doing, the usa is lucky tether made them seethe so much they tried to ban crypto and failed, and i say lucky because crypto actually offers them the way of inflating against something else escaping the triffin dillema and reserve currency status in a controlled way.But i do not get the impression of trump and bessent being wise leaders the mix of preparing to control bond yields mixed with wage supression does not work the idea of such a system is to make wages go up as well as taxes and everything and keep debt yields low so debt to gdp ratios go lower.With crypto and datacenters for AI the motherfuckers got a one in a thousand years civilizational opportunity to be the first empire to survive the reserve currency curse and they seem to be wasting it out of pure boomerism thinking rising wages is communism.Like ffs from 1971 to 2009 burgerland minimum wage duplicated every decade.
>>535421954Quite the opposite YCC, is something japan failed at, only Argentina, USA and Russia pulled such models the last 100 years.Argentina two times in the last 100 years the usa one time and russia one time this century, that model of reducing debt to gdp ratio needs energy and food independence the usa actually has both now.You are right on the social cohesion thing which is what is scary about this whole thing, they got all ready and a golden chance with crypto and AI to pull it faster than even argentina 2001-2011 yet they do not want out of pure boomerism.
>>535421789>Yield curve control and a return to 1930-1971 roosveltian/peronist national socialism was always needed,Yeah more government, that'll get the debt under control. You people are idiots. You spend a century getting fucked in the ass by big government schemes and you beg for more fist up your ass.
>>535422108>stable cons are going to bail out a ponzi scheme that is 40 T in the holestupid crapto retard. That ponzi is not even slightly able to bail out the ponzi. If anything the genuine retardation bill and the Clarity boomer fuck up is going to disincentivize to out anything into crapto. Why the fuck buy into a ponzi that is forced by legislation to buy in real terms negative ponzi bonds.
>>535422240Okay, crapto brahhhhh retard. You go on the same pile as the mmt communist
>>535422283>You people are idiotsYou are the retard the debt is mathematically unpayable, it's growing at a parabolc rate the interest of us debt is now higher than all income taxes being collected at this rate it will be higher than all taxes being collected in two years.>You spend a century getting fucked in the ass by big government schemes and you beg for more fist up your ass.Big government is cancer but cat is out of the box you can't operate without a central bank because country next door can have a central bank and do forex manipulation to destroy your industry by larping the price of it's currency.Not to mention nations like russia or others can operate massive armies, look i agree with you that looking at the past the late 1800s were a golden age for humanity unlike what leftards say.But we can't go back, armies can cross oceans in days, central banking fucked everything up and we are on the verge of a tech singularity which in the wrong hands will lead to human enslavement.
>>535420776Lead levels in the environment, total 100% kike control (while remaining mostly invisible) of print, TV, and radio, sophisticated kike/ CIA attacks against society at its weakest points (women, sexuality, hallucinogenic drugs), trauma-based mind control in the "atomic bomb" and Vietnam war, rampant inflation beginning in the mid-1960s, kike-fueled greed pouring down from the "top" into the "middle class" and then, despite all of this, Boomers somehow decided that they were the best thing on earth since Adam and Eve.
>43pbtid
>>535422291Usa being the reserve currency can't pull the same model they used between 1945-1971 because there is no bretton woods system anymore, if they tried to run the debt deflation model that roosveltianism or peronism or putinism used this century, all they would achieve is nations devaluating against the usd since it's needed for international trade, they need a third force (crypto) to devaluate against and stablecoins to devour us bonds as that market grows in marketcap. (eth stablecoins).
>>535417075>limit your economic activityMarket forces would correct for this if allowed to. The alternative, which you are lobbying for is unlimited debt creation, inflated savings, and debt slavery.>he entirety of the 20th century has proven them to be fools.The decline of living standards across the West proves you wrong.
>>535422514>Idiot that cant into offer and demand like a communist calls somebody retardedfuck off back to /biz/ mongoloidIf you cant understand how "Ai" (whatever the fuck that is) and crtapto ponzis is not ble to compensate a demand deflation let alone solve 40T of shit toxic debt you have nothing of value to say.go try to sell ponzis to a deflating demand on shitter like the other retards that get under 0.0001 interaction rates spamming ponzi ads
>>535422380mmt communist retards are the ones that got debt to gdp to parabolic levels, national socialist (peaceful systems) such as roosveltianism, peronism or pre war putinism only got debt to gdp levels to go lower every year as the economy adjusted to higher units of currency being used.And contrary to popular opinion this was not communism at all the usa did not had capital controls or commie know your customer policies in it's national socialist roosveltian model in 1971 a house was 12k usd and highest cash in circulation was the 10k usd bill adjusted for inflation like 600k usd of today money.Imagine taking a bill worth 600k usd today, communism?Our fucking neoliberal, social democrats and cuckservative retards have created a much more commie hellhole than what roosveltianism or peronism ever did.
>>535422672We get it, you want number go upNow piss of and sell your ponzis, yes, nobody wants them.choke on your bags greatest fool
>>535422835Nigger, I am not reading the output of a crapto bot. Go advertise your ponzis somehwre else
>>535422837>>535422754This is how a national socialist system operate social democrat imbecile, go check usa 1930-1971 debt to gdp ratio.Argentina 2001-2015 debt to gdp ratio or Russia 2000-2020 debt to gdp ratio.It's this (peaceful national socialism variant) with higher units of acount and ycc and lower debt to gdp ratio every year or christine laggarde panopticon.As an eurocuck i can understand why you may choose feudalism and laggarde panopticon but no one in the americas will accept that shit deal with it eurotard.
>>535422985Hey socialist crapto bot, kill yourself. There is no difference between you and mmt communist, you are both cnetral committee dick sucking ponzi faggots, and the same hole is appropriate for you, and the same gasoline to burn you alive
>>535401522I don't think it's that dire, but the US Government really needs to spend within its means and get the debt down.
>5.18%>still way under the 50 year average Wow it’s fucking nothing.
>>535423137You keep calling me a socialist even tough i am anti socialist which i find hillarious, i am just telling the truth, we got into this mess due to trusting boomer imbeciles like you.What do you prefer a gov that controls and invest in some key areas like energy and deflates debt to gdp ratio for 15 years? or christine laggarde panopticon?Because the answer the current system has will be the cbdc panopticon that will have less capitalist freedoms than even fucking russia.And you certainly won't have gasoline to burn anyone since the ethanol ratio will increase a lot as debt to gdp ratio goes parabolic and forces shrinkflation on absurd levels of the private sector to finance government parasites.
>>535420776
>>535404484>The circular ponzi around nvidia and oracle dies with the bond marketHow so? Can you elaborate? I know Nvidia loans to the customers that buy their product but how does the bond market affect that?
>>5354233405% when you owe $4,000,000 is different than when you owe $40,000,000,000,000
>>535404659Why June 30?
>>535401592
>>535422615>1pbtid
>>535404358There’s no centralized exchange this is a NPC take…
>>535423400>national socialism is le good>no no no its totally not socialism>buy my bagkys crapto socialist
>>535423626who are the majority holder of "tech" ponzi shares? Yes pension funds. Who is the majority creditor of pension funds? Yes banks. Who are the majority holders of sovereign ponzi bonds? Yes banks.The Nvidia --> Oracle/Amazon/.... ---> fund ---> bank ---> Nvidia ---> Oracle/Amazon/... rehypothecation ponzi is just a tertiary layer ponzi. The moment the bond market shits the bed the treasury--->bank--->pension fund--->treasury--->bank--->pension fund circular pnzi crashes the tertiary layers
>>535424668what. since when are ifinex, circle and other stable con artist ponzis "decentralized". They are registered companies
>>535401648Vocaroo is audio, retard
>>535414727Most countries are tax maxxed and governments are too corrupt to do anything but self deal nowadays.So no that will not happen.
>>535414979Boomers thought they kids would have kids.
>>535415563If my neighbors and I decided to accept payment of goods and services in potatoes then potatoes would be money.It is that simple.
>>535415563Smooth brain take. Fiat never existed by defenition. Should never have switch from silver or gold.
>>535401522>The 20th century boomer ponziconomy is overAnon, I've thought that for about 27 years now.The Jews which require their votes are absolute masters of money manipulation.I hope you're right, but you need to be prepared to not be.
>>535403550>default means end of global tradegood
No more Japan carry trade and a softening of the petrodollar mean US Treasuries are no longer a slam dunk. Add in the fact that Trump pisses in the collective world's faces daily, mean nobody will be coming to help. The July bond auction will technically 'fail'. They may use some tricks and find some buyers, but everyone will know it is a failure. This will set yields at over 6% and send the interest cost to $4B per day. Printing at this stage will Zimbabwe the currency very quickly. Where the US is going they will need all the defense budget they can get. Forget about Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare. All amounts will be put to keeping the lights on. I don't expect Trump to go peacefully down with the ship. His ego is way too big to admit defeat. I would think a recall of troops to the US and a force majeure declaration will come in the next 18 months. The default will allow all foreign US assets to be nationalized - bases, companies, mines, wells, etc.
>>535401522Trump presidency just keeps getting better.
>>535401522global weimar
don't care. still voting for trump. you lost tranny
>>535428013>"still voting for trump">that flag
>>535401592zased & soon to be deadpilled
>>535427472It's a nice story but he doesn't have that much imagination, and neither do his kike masters anymore. It's a great time to be an American, since we can call upon the self-reliance that is still in our blood, despite a few centuries of kike meddling.
>>535416305no
>>535404358>buttcoinleddit faggot detected. I can discard your opinion.>>535404673>>535404970>>535405066>>535405566>>535426193Didn't read faggot.
>>5354051242021 faggot
