Why is Russia still fighting in Ukraine?
Inability to end the war by force.
>>535412804they got what they wanted, the name of the game now is to hold and secure their gains.
They are fighting neo-Nazism and NAFO terrorism.
>>535412804How does this thread help the oinkraine defend Konstantinovka and Liman?
>>535412913>they got what they wantedwhy did they want?>>535413024right but why are they STILL fighting it?
>>535412913They annexed Kherson Oblast in September 2022. They abandoned Kherson City and all of Kherson Oblast west of the Dniper in November 2022. Sorry.
>>535412913>Specops failed to secure airport planned to create airbridge near capital>armored column got destroyed on the way to the capital>We only wanted this piece of land, that we already secured in the initial invasion, this is why we're slowing bleading ourselves and becoming china's vassalholy cope.
>>535413104you need rare earths to build modern weapons. ukraine happens to have plenty of minerals
>>535412913>they got what they wantedno they didnt.
>>535413879doesn't look like they have what they want them from that map. russia is lacking in minerals are they?
>>535413879If only Russia had the most resource reserves on earth…
>>535414107rare earths to specific, they are super magnets. the new modern weapons rely on them. stealth components, drone jammers, energy weapons, ballistic armour, optics, etc.
>>535414144yea, its the rare earths they are after. currently china produces most of the worlds rare earths. basically if you don't have rare earths, you cant be a super power. you'll be too far behind in technology.
So the war wasn't about freeing the people in Donbabwe and instead a niggerish landgrab to steal natural resources and sell them at a discount to china in order to enrich a very few, very jewish elite class??????
>>535414248china cut off russia from rare earths?
>>535412804There are still fighting age white Ukrainian males there.Jews love to genocide the slav race. they did it for 15 years about 100 years ago, now they are doing it again.it is a coordinated effort between Russia and the Ukrainian government.
>>535412804there are a few piggers left
>>535414464not that i'm aware of. doesn't mean russia doesn't want to claim rare earth veins for themselves. you really cant under estimate how valuable these minerals are. you literally need them to remain a relevant military. china is going to be the dominate super power soon enough.
>>535414783russia doesn't have their own rare earths?
>>535414879not really, not as much as the usa produces but no one is near what china is producing.
>>535412804Bring Pax Americana to its end by weaking NATO relationships and the dollar economy
>>535412804the people aren't all dead yetthis isn't a warkeep watchingZionists will settle Ukraine after Indians de-mine and rebuild.
>>535412804sunk cost fallacy
>>535412804to the last hohol
>>535413060Sucks away resources from glavset.Did you see the hysterical spam from bolanda xd retard after the little boom boom in Moscow? I bet they have to work overtime now.
>>535412804Kill off Russian population so they can replace them with jeets
>>535415380Agreed, gotta remember it’s all in or all out
>>535415021well no wonder they're willing to sacrifice so many russians for that then. lack of minerals and natural resources has been the main thing holding russia back. once they get those rare earths, they will be a superpower again instead of an impoverished shithole
>>535415995yea, turns out greenland has big potential for rare earths as well. the problem with rare earths though is its a very expensive proess to refine. its extremely expensive so you need dow to be 50000 to maintain operations. the fact that china can produce so much is quite impressive.
>>535414879They haven't find out yet how to extract them from a frozen wasteland without going bankrupt in process.
>>535415995greenland could be the wests saving grace but the west would rather sit back and wither away, pandering to minorities while the east is making strategic moves to secure rare earth production
>>535414879Not reallyIts like a 10 year project to extract rare earths because you need a refinery on site also.All the news on ukraine having rare earths was faked by soviet surveys in the 1960s.Thats why Russia is in Africa
>>535416498Unironically true
>>535417210i didnt know the deposits weren't proven yet. interesting. might have to reconsider my theory
>>535412804Not gonna lie, former Russia supporter here.This is fucking hilarious watching Russians explode and burn on drone videos. But in all seriousness we can't let these guys get the Ukraine.
>>535417210why are they in ukraine then?
>>535413137Russia never wanted the city of Kherson itself; she only held the city for a while to overstretch the hohol troops on the right bank of the Dnieper River. Russia only wanted the eastern part of the Kherson Oblast, which has always been part of Novorussia. Putin himself admitted as much. He is a geopolitical and military genius, so he basically set a trap for the hohols there. They lost hundreds of thousands of their best-trained troops when they tried to conquer Kherson in November 2022. Meanwhile, Russian troops lost only a few dozen and silently left the city during the night time. This caused huge infighting among the hohols when their avant-garde troops were mistaken for Russians as they approached the city and crossed its borders. Thousands of NATO-trained hohols died from friendly fire there.
>>535412804>russia is not winning fast enoght
>>535417457Yup Let me find the article.We have been extracting rare.earths.for 50 years, why hasnt ukraine had mines already?They found scandium (aluminum alloy) in an iron mine in the 50s but that dried up in the 70s.They said the same thing for 20 years about lithium in Afganistan>the war will pay for itself!To this day not one ounce of lithium has even been mined in Afganistan
>>535412804To embarrass and deplete NATO.
>>535417952They definitely aren't and it's both humiliating and causing a crisis on the homefront.>>535418051They have intercepted so many NATO drones and artillery shells. There's 1000s of videos of Russians intercepting them, usually alone in some field.
>>535417870I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking or not
>>535417457>https://spectrum.ieee.org/ukraine-rare-earth-minerals>To begin with, the contentious 28 February Oval Office meeting can’t be understood without a crucial piece of context: there are no deposits of rare-earth ore in Ukraine known to be minable in an economically viable way. And that would be true even if full-scale warfare were not raging in the country’s east, where a great deal of its mineral resources are concentrated.>Ukraine is believed to have four areas with substantial deposits of rare earth ores, according to Erik Jonsson, senior geologist with the Geological Survey of Sweden. “There are four slightly bigger deposits: Yastrubetske, Novopoltavske, Azovske, and Mazurivske. All but one of them seem to be now within or near the zone that the Russians control, as far as I can tell,” says Jonsson. “And when it comes to resources in those deposits, I mean, we have numbers; yes, that’s nice. But we have no real, detailed, outline of how those numbers were arrived at.” The numbers are believed to come from Soviet surveys dating as far back as the 1960s.>Even without a war to contend with, it would take at least 15 years to build a mine to begin extracting rare-earth ore on a large scale, Lifton notes. And according to the terms of the draft critical materials deal, private companies would have to invest huge sums, likely a billion dollars or more, to develop rare-earths mines in Ukraine.
>>535413024>neo-nazismImagine serving a literal kike and EU communists and thinking you are a nazi
>>535417870>Russia never wanted the city of Kherson itselfWhy did they annex it then?
>>535418233okay so its speculative. they think its there but none wants to finance the operation.
>>535418330Read my post again: >>535417870>she only held the city for a while to overstretch the hohol troops on the right bank of the Dnieper RiverIt was an excellent tactical and strategic move by Putin and Gerasimov, it is probably one of the greatest operations since the Soviet Kursk Maneuver in 1943 at the very least.
>>535418660But why did they do it?
>>535418660Why do you think Putin is making any military decisions in this war?
>>535418618NoIts called a carrot to keep us in the warAll of a sudden everyone believes Soviet bullshit surveys nobody ever believed before?
>>535417210>All the news on ukraine having rare earths was faked by soviet surveys in the 1960s.Isn't it a matter of concentration and size of the deposit? Poland has, on paper, known deposits of shale gas, uranium, oil and some more exotic minerals. In practice, the extraction and processing would be expensive, the output would be microscopic and it would be cheaper to simply buy it elsewhere.I wouldn't be surprised if Russians wanted to seize the all oil and gas in Azov Sea, and the whole war was just to stop Bursima from becoming a competition.
>>535412804Just overlay your maps with Ukraine's extant and prospected natural resources. Putin has most of the gas and minerals. The only thing he wants now is the coastline at Odessa because being landlocked limits Ukraine strategically for eternity.
Think about itThe USSR fell 35 years ago.Eastern Ukraine is FULL of miners willing to work dirt cheap.Why did nobody ever bother to even prospect for rare earths there?>https://investornews.com/critical-minerals-rare-earths/alas-ukrainian-rare-earths-theres-no-there-there/>There are no proven resources of rare earth elements, atomic numbers 57 (lanthanum) to 70 (lutetium), in Ukraine’s sovereign territory.>This means that no accessible, mineable, extractible with known technologies, or high enough grade discoveries of rare earths (as defined above) have been made in Ukraine to justify the high expense of moving such a “discovery” to the internationally defined status of a “deposit” which could be mined economically.
>>535418703He might be Putin on VPN
>>535419004March 2021>https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-the-black-sea-could-emerge-as-the-worlds-next-great-energy-battleground/?
>>535418703To exhaust the hohols and cause terrible damage to their best-trained and best-equipped forces.>>535418805Because he does? After all, he was a KGB officer, and they all received a proper military education in addition to their specific professional training. Also, Putin is the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of Russia, Gerasimov is just the Chief of the General Staff and obeys Putin. Putin knows more about war than all the NATO generals combined. He knows the tech specs of all the tanks, jets, etc, and he knows how to use pincer and cauldron tactics better than pretty much any military leader in the world's history.
>>535412804They're counting on a crisis to come, and then they'll attack with full force. It's a pipe dream, but oh well, time will tell.
>>535413245You didn't have to murder him, leaf.
>>535419519I wonder why no vatniks are trying to tell you to calm down. They must be too embarrassed to even respond to you.
>>535419519I'm getting strong 2013 vibes from this post
>>535414783Interesting. I read an article recently that said the Australian government has just ordered China-linked companies to sell their shares in an Australian rare earth company that owns dysprosium.
>>535419519>To exhaust the hoholsWhy didn't that work?
Only 4 cities left in Donetsk and Kostiantynivka is about to fall. I think once Russians finish Donetsk, there will be one more ultimatum. If Ukraine doesn't accept, then they're going to go for Kiev and Odessa and finish Ukraine off. They're putting forces in place to get ready to go to Kiev again
>>535419873>intrestingHow so faggot?There are no rare earths in ukraine
>>535420203>There are no rare earths in ukrainekek
>>535421560Did you read the thread?FaggotList the rare earth mines in ukraine
>>535412804When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>535420203>>535422205You are wrong, retard. Going into tard rage won't prove your point either.
>>535421560Look at how globohomo has thier AI programmed to pretend there are rare earths in ukraine to keep investing in this hopless war.Ukraine was open to western mining investments for 35 years. Why has nobody even even surveyed ukraine for rare earths?
>>535422362>>535413060Are these Poles or Russians on VPNs?
>>535413024Putin is kikery friendly, you are not ending in seeing the whole picture...Also the nigger putin betrayed Assad and all of those russians who gave their lives defending sanity on Syria.Also Putler has to be droned the shit out of Zerg-ensky not today but like 2 years ago.Also Putin is sending the prime of Russia Christians to kill his fellow ukraine bros, meanwhile the trash and juden niggers roam free doing her evil bussines as usual.That for the russian part..Ukraine the only thing redeameable is Azov and they are a bunch of pussy faggots that already had to took power of the country, they are the good lakeys of all kikes in Khazaria and also have satanists in their ranks And dont mistake me from a nafo tranny faggot, i know the invasion was justified, but prolonging the situation this loong with all the slaughter and carnage between bros is stupid, also Rusia has the means to terminate with Zelentard, why they leader and commanding officers dont do it is a question beyond everyone, but i say it is becuase = kikery in motion.
>>535422527Oh?So name the rare earth mines in ukraine.Quote a survey.
>>535422554What is Russia getting out of it then if no rare earths?
>>535422588As if your flag is real.
>>535418318>this is whom rusniggers are losing tobased heir of David’s bloodline mogging the oversized Goliath
>>535422708How many times has Russia invaded Poland?
>>535422785many polish flags are just belarussian FSB plants
>>535422675It almost seems like you are a botThats a retarded question>Russia is only invading to steal ukraines scamdiumYou know how stupid you sound?
Reminder no zhill has ever dared face this map ever, you lost ziggers and your anal destruction is funny.
>>535423041What is Russia getting out of it then?
>>535423078Nothing.
>>535412804sunk cost fallacy>>535412913lol
>>535412804same answer to any question pertaining to continued violence among slavs: they dont wanna look gaywhenever youre confused as to why russia is doing something? thats probably why. its cuz they dont wanna look gay.which is funny because this often leads them into doing some exceptionally gay shit to each other, simply so they can go, "xaxa u pidor xaxaxa", and make the other look gay
>>535423078So you honestly dont think Russia has a dozen reasons for the war?Here's one, faggot shill, all trade to interior of Russia sails past thier naval base in Sevistipol. A blockade would destroy all trade to the interior of Russia and collapse thier economy.Pic is shipping lanes
>>535417643buffer zoneA war is cheaper than relocating tens of millions of people to central Russia.
>>535423536>A blockade would destroy all trade to the interior of Russia and collapse thier economy.Really? Like what is happening to Iran with the Hormouz blockade?>>535423556Buffer zone against what?
>>535423665This is a satan-bot
>>535423536Too bad NATO can still blockade the Danish and Turkish straits >>535423556Russia has 6 borders with NATO already
>>535423665>Buffer zone against what?schizophreniaHATO biomass tacticool assault trannys grown in a tube in a chemical weapons lab in donbassits all bullshit cope anyways. if they wanted a buffer zone then theyve utterly failed. theyve literally created a hard military border. they didnt used to be neighbors with the most powerful and experienced army in yurop. they are now, and its directly putins fault. its very likely NATO wouldve eventually dissolved were it not for the two invasions. NATO was a reluctant corpse before putin gave it a shot in the arm. now its just reluctant
>>535412804depopulation
>>535422205Lands that aren't built entirely out of puked up magma have minerals in them. Ukraine has minerals. "Rare earths" is just a catch-all for mining opportunities, and it sounds like someone's been buying the narrative all along but didn't notice when they stopped saying it has nothing and changed their tune and started adding dollar values to whatever specific minerals they were looking for. 30 trillion was thrown around a couple of months ago. They don't say which mineral.
>>535422554>to keep investing in this hopless war.You're completely blind, aren't you? This is just clearing the population for re-settlement by zionists.
>>535424258>"Rare earths" is just a catch-all for mining opportunitiesno, it refers to a specific group of elements that are difficult to chemically separate. weird you don't know this.
