THE DEBATE IS OVER. ELECTRIC CARS ARE THE FUTURE. BYD MOGS TESLA WITH CHARGEMAXXING.FULLY CHARGES IN 8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GAS.ELECTRIC CARS COST $1 PER GALLON WHEN COMPARED TO GAS CARS TO CHARGEhttps://youtu.be/ajim7KF30jE?si=jT0ZN6o2pKqQQpVS&t=2543 (STARTS AT 42:23)
Imagine the fire hazard pumping that kind of current bros. 200kw/hr chink battery charging in 8min is 1.5 fucking MEGAWATTS passing through those cables into the car battery.
>>535430229>CCP shill says CCP car is good/thread
>>5354302292 year battery life btw
Chinks won. Xi left semen on trumps face. Many such cases.
>>535430443cringe
And they probably explode into flames
>>535430342Jokes on you but i bet there are thousand of batteries from china in a mile radius from you. Tens of thousands if you live in a big city. If the replace/refurbed battery is cheap this could be the way.
>>535430700probably not, these are lithium iron phosphate batteries. less energy density than conventional lithium batteries but without the fire hazard.
fast charging destroys battery longevity
>>535430919Any battery that holds that much power density can and will explode. It's just how batteries work lmao.
>>535430229How long do the batteries last before they can't hold a charge anymore?
>>535430906That sounds scary as fuck. Chink shit is so dangerous and flammable.
Boil your dog
>>535430975No, it doesn't, not in modern EVs lmaoAnd even if it did, it would depend on the battery chemistry and the cooling system and the battery management system, for said battery, seeing as temperature is always the culprit in degradation of the chemistry.Your cope is basically only relevant to EVs before 2019, or shitty ones with passive cooling like that the Nissan or the Kia.
>>535430229>THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GASMe when I lie casually on the internet
>>535430919how are they charging LiFePo batteries that quickly?
>>535430229but how reliable are they?
>steals European car design >fills it full of chinkshit Do chinks literally have zero creativity? Everything they’ve got they stole from the west
>>535430229I eagerly away the explosions.
the mutt seething is funny but weird, they don't even make cars anymore so why the upset?
>>535430229America would never.
>>535430229Cant wait to get one once my RVR kicks the bucket.Hopefully this retarded nigger pedo war is enough to convince everyone that oil is a retard fuel.Best case scenario is worldwide adoption of electric, tanking oil prices paving the way to even cheaper medicine and products that rely on oil distillation.I mean america will still suffer since they're owned by billionaires but the rest of the world would thrive at least
High flow of energy creates a lot of heatThats bad for the battery
>>535431579We do make (assemble) cars but sadly not enough, it's actually accounts for roughly 10% of our economy.We have a lot of parallels going on with the 70s, in which Detroit never recovered. It was endless imports of nip cars with the massive oil shock where Detroit never recovered.They probably won't be able to recover this time either despite the bans on the Chinkcar imports.A game of musical chairs is happening right now, JP Morgan thought this war would take two weeks months ago, and now they're still predicting it'll end June 1st, literally the two weeks meme, and thus oil prices will somehow stabilize, but you can't replace the lack of deliveries, the SPR can only be so depleted.It's kind of like living in a kike fantasy land here. Europe is feeling it more than we are, for sure. You have a good grasp on reality. Here, everyone is pretending that everything is fine.I'd worry more for the euro automakers though, sure we'll be hit hard, but so will yurop, goes without saying.
>>535431679>tanking oil prices paving the way to even cheaper medicine and products that rely on oil distillation.lol no. All the fuel oil will be used to generate electricity, instead. And most of the other stuff is made with parts of the oil that aren't being used for fuel.
>>535430229Sorry to burst your bubble cunt.What are the batteries made from you greasy leftist puke? You need to geld yoursepf and put yourself on a pedo watch list.
>>535431886You think a big crisis shock would be enough to change opinions or would it exacerbate the already polarized environment like the media thrives in?
>>535431806it can over time depends what material they use and how long they expect it to last and if it has safety mechjanisms to let you know your battery is fucked. the amp draw is a concern since you will literally be drawing dodwn the regions power grid for this shit if everybody did it.
>>535431886I mean, the euro companies deserve it though
>>535430572Cringe
>>535430229i'm just imagining the global battery waste thirty years out from electric vehiclesoh boythat's going to be an interesting problem to figure outnot to mention manufacturing waste
>>535432011Everyone who actually needs a car is buying an EV in this climate. The new Subaru e-outback, trailseeker in the USA, that they went in with Toyota on the research and design has basically sold out in my metropolitan area.
>>535431310Every vape has a lithium ion battery from China, a lot of phones and tablets too there's millions in any given city
>>535430229How does the charge hold up in super hot/cold climates? If you're in a temperate zone, it should be fine, but climates with big swings in temperatures will fuck your battery life up.
>>535431310You're just repeating the meme, you silly mutt. Loads of them here and I don't see or read about them spontaneously combusting.
>>535432595lol obviously it burns you to death because it is Chineseare u new?
>>535430229>FULLY CHARGES IN 8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GAS.It takes 2 minutes to fill a tank of gas you idiot. Herbs
>>53543127615 to 20 years, apparently. Maybe it's true. I see old Prius hybrids still going.
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>>535430342that ammount of copper in the wild would get stolen by an army of crackheads in no time in poor regions
>>535430363We'll see. I tend to agree with you but the west has been doing fuckall with battery tech advancement for decades. I wouldn't put my life or house on the line with one of those things as an early adopter but given that CATL has been making the battery packs for fucking everything that requires high current and high energy density for the last decade it might be legit and hold up. In any case I'm exciting to see what comes of it. Same with that sketchy donutlabs pack.
>>535431431They aren’t. Maybe it’s solid state but CREB is working on this and aren’t there yet. I’m not doubting the Chinese surpassed America on that front either though.
>>535432827why do they become flamethrowers lmfao
>>535432284You know you can recycle batteries
>>535430363Batteries are 99% recyclable.
>>535433006Lithium packs when they decompose generate a ton of gas which autoignites and creates huge geysers of flame. That's why so many lithium pack designs utilize liquid cooling and sophisticated temperature management and cell balancing hard/software. Overheating them causes runaway decomposition.
>>535432721They used ni-mh in the older ones. Barrery life was like 10 years.
>>535432284>https://evsmarts.com/how-ev-batteries-are-becoming-99-percent-recyclable-worldwide/It's been solved.
>>535430363This; and then the car is an effective write-off (if it isn't the moment that it's sold) -- if even new batteries can be sourced... To say nothing of a higher service, repair, and buy-in costs. This means that the used-car market is kill; with it, millions of flow-on jobs... As well as leaving the associated countries completely cυcked to chinks' E. V. wares.>"Iran War" that was sold mutt brass as a proxy for confronting the chink, actually goes kinetic>chinks stop exporting replacement batteries, and even the resources to make them>laowai lumpen sit in their BYD tinderboxes, praying to YHVH that the rioting niggers outside can't break the glass
>>535433145The cooling keeps the one overheated cell from overheating the one next to it. It’s called thermal runaway propagation. >>535433145
>>535430229>Chinese EVGood luck getting one in Trump's America.
I don't think anywhere outside of China has chargers with that much stank on them
>>535433006>fast firesThat cannot be put out, only burnt out; and because they're all crammed together in those banks, it's like a bundle of phosphorous. It's to with it (i) having it's own oxygen (cannot be deprived) and it burning so hot that dousing isn't feasible.>"Lithium-ion battery fires are difficult to extinguish because they are self-oxidizing, meaning the battery’s cathode materials release oxygen when heated, allowing the fire to sustain itself without atmospheric oxygen."In layman terms, if you're in one, and it doesn't have fully mechanical door handles would can open when the battery goes holobguna (and you haven't a hammer to smash the windows), you're literal toast... As with the vax, the part of the EULA that they leave out.
>>535430229>CHARGES IN 8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GASgot some shitty slow petrol pumps in muttland have you? you should join the 21st century like bongland.
>>535433581It might take five minutes with the glownigger rewards card, inserting your credit card, and then finally dispensing. There's also the humiliation ritual with a slow pump and you are shown video ads on the screen while you fill up.Yes, we do live in a kiked up nigger zoo.
>>535433006Because they are not battery fires. These flamethrower fires are natural gas powered vehicles. And this is a safety, release. If something goes wrong with the vehicle, a vent on the roof opens and ingintes the gas to burn it safely and prevent an explosion. Most of the fires in that video are not battery fires.Also, battery fires are not that much different from other fires and can be suppressed the same way. You just dump water on it or let it burn out.t. Firefighter.
>>535432568Yeah they do combust a lot, the vapes I mean. Guess it is because the battery is from China.
>>535433801all our pumps are rapid af unless you go to some shithole garage in the highlands of scotland or some shit. no wonder china's mogging you.
>>535430229>US flags seethinglmao chinks living rent free in their heads
>>535430363Batteries by the will cost $500.
>>535430363Battery tech is moving very fast.Compare to phonesChinese manufacturers have understood the point of iterative design. Nothing is built to last. And "that's a good thing", when you can push out something nearly twice as good in 3-8 years. Why make anything to last?The question thus isn't how long will it last. It is will this last until a replacement of superior quality can be developed.Applied to people and you have the Lazarus effect. That question isn't whether or not a treatment will cure you. The question is whether treatments will keep you alive long enough for a better longer lasting treatment to be developed.In both cases the answer is almost certainly yes, with the caveat the costs down the line are roughly the sameWhich they typically are.Two years? Yeah, it will suck to have lost whatever % of your capacity, but sodium batteries are finally moving to production. Maybe you trade some hypothetical max capacity, but perhaps similar capacity to your original battery, but at 1/10th the cost. Maybe you get even more capacity and the same "2 year" lifetime - with the caveat you will have a higher capacity in 2 years than you have at the end of your previous batteries life cycle. Generally this would be met with a smaller battery - same watt hours - making for a lighter vehicle, and thusly a longer lasting batter for less energy used.Boomers complain nothing lasts, but that is the point. You don't want piece of shit to last. You want something better tomorrow. It's counter-intuitive, but tech is moving fast. I'll say it again. Tech is moving fast.
>>535431679lmao you niggers are so fucking retarded. Gasoline is essentially a waste product and passenger vehicles are a drop in the bucket compared to everything else that relies on the petrochemical industry.
>>535434349>Nothing is built to lastDefinitely not in China.
>>535430229Mine fully "charges" in about 4 minutes and has a 500 mile range. And there are 15 times more gas stations than charging stations.
>>535430443they are literally always gay, every last single time
>>535434520You should try an EV, seriously. Not a Tesla. Go to the lot and try a Toyota, or Subaru, or even the Chevy bolt for economy hatchback, or the Ford Lightning. With the Ford, assuming they have some leftover fleet ones with the built in inverter, all you need is a trainsfer switch and you can power your house for a week.Your stubbornness will get the best of you in the middle of summer when gas runs to $8 a gallon in bumfuck nowhere and everything is more expensive due to the massive inflation.
>>535430229
>>535433188Being theoretically recyclable doesn't mean that is economical to do so or that people will actually do it to avoid the waste and environmental damage. Most stuff that ends up in every landfill all over the world is technically recyclable but it doesn't happen.
>>535430229It takes 2 minutes max for 80 litres, 3 if you count paying for it too
>>535434950Not only are they recyclable down to the chemistry, but someone will pay you thousands of dollars to take your "degraded battery", which is perfectly usable for a whole-house battery bank.You can use them like this for over a decade.Let alone recycling it for aftermarket battery repairs.The fears of your battery being essentially worthless is overblown.
>>535430229How much does 400 miles cost in electricity? $6.00 bucks?
>>535430363>make car in China for cheap cause no regulations>import to the West>throw it away after it inevitably breaks down in 2 years and buying a new one is cheaper>dump the trash in some developing nation so child workers can scrap themEVs will save the environment
>>535430229that is amazing
>>535432568Yes but those are a bit smaller than a car's battery usually, the car battery exploding would cause more damage than a phone's one or vape(Unless I'm mistaken)
>>535430229>over 8 minutes to fill a tank of gasWhat? Are you a woman or a faggot that has never pumped gas before? You pump it into your own mouth and spit it into the gas tank or what? How can you pump gas for more than 2 minutes is beyond me.
I'm so tired of chink shilling
Has anyone raised concerns about the proximity of the human body to such large and powerful batteries for long periods of time? You’re basically resting your balls on top of a giant radioactive device - lithium ION battery - whenever you ride in an electric car. People used to worry about sitting with a laptop on their body for long periods, and now they are sitting on a battery a hundred times the size like it’s no big deal
>>535430229Believe nothing that comes from or out of China, Chinese people, or communist sympathizers. Commies lie about shit all the time to convince retards it is a perfect system. Just look at the 2015 chinese market crash. Shocker of shockers, the commie chinks were lying and cooking the books.
>>535430229>FULLY CHARGES IN 8 MINUTESNow that's a lot of silver!
>>535435752I mean look at this thing. Is there any kind of shielding that protects passengers from radiation?
>>535430229I bet that guy likes Star Wars.Electric Car Pros and Cons: CONS1. Dependence on the power grid. This is energy centralization. Anyone can have large gas cans at home, and gas station tanks can last weeks until they need a refill. The government or an enemy attack can wipe out a power grid at the click of a finger. Oh well, you have no transportation now. Got horses?2. Maintenance. There is no maintenance on an electric car, there is only a new battery or a new computer. 3. Hazardous materials. Electric car batteries are incredibly destructive to the environment. 4. Pollution. Coal-burning plants supply the electricity to charging stations. PROS1. You get to be a faggot.
>>535435752You just did. Now get to researching this for us.
>>535433099>schroedinger's batteries99% recyclable but you can't find enough rare earth minerals to make any so they have to be super expensivebatteries are for toys, not vehicles.
>>535435752>>535435916Interesting point, i do not have one nor consider the effects. Now im curiousm
>>535430229and you just need to buy new batteries every 3 months
>>535430229>Hey kid, Catch!
>>535430229And how long do the batteries last with a charge rate that fast?
>>535435958You got baited so hard by OP you asked your little AI thingy to sum up points against electric cars?I mean they do suck but not as much as your mom.
>>535436347Why do you think I used AI?
>>535436385Because you're too retarded to think and choose to let an AI think for you
If the xiaomi su7 is 30-35k I will buy one when it comes to europe. Fuck paying almost 2 euros for deisel and being raped by emission and engine taxes.
>>535436535That didn't answer the question. I didn't use AI, I knew all these bullet points for years. Your believing I had to use AI to write that says more about your intellectual abilities than mine. I guess intelligence is becoming magic for younger generations.
>>535434349>Nothing is built to last. And "that's a good thing"Good goy.
>>535430229can you get an additional full tank in jerry cans as backup?
>2 year battery life btwChina loves doing this wasteful stuff for sureThe cars are mostly crap
>>535430342All batteries are chink batteries.
>>535430229Is that even physically possible? Undoubtedly you need some insane current and power draw.>>535436198This is about right, China invests in this because they have no oil but rare earths. The problem with batteries is that the energy density is just way too low and they will never replace fossil fuels, at least in the foreseeable future. They will never be feasible for planes, trains, ships, etc. Even for cars the feasibility is highly in doubt because of the electric consumption. Other issues like the high cost, replacing the battery, etc. It's shit.
>>535437640guess trump is right about china then
>>535435752Moving currents create magnetic fields but those are undetectable to humans and don't do anything to do you. They're safe AFAIK. Also the strength of the field dies down very rapidly with distance. These aren't radio devices
China lies about everything, there's no reason to believe anything they say.
>>535435916>radiationOf course there isnt, they dont give a flying hell about it, they want people to eventually become mindless zombies worse than what we have now, because the electromagnetic frequency in these things will be so strong that youll be in a daze while driving.The future is really really scary.
>>535433111Doesn't actually happen though.
>>535431431By lying on the Internet.
>>535430229There is still barely any infrastructure in place for electric cars. You can't take a road trip in one to this day. EVs are still local city commute fagmobiles.
>>535430700Unlike gasoline vehicles.
>>535433111Cost prohibitive
>>535432721>I see old Prius hybrids still going.I had a 7 year old Prius that had the battery go to shit, was running pretty much on the gas engine alone. Just because they're still running doesn't mean the battery is still working.
>>535430229>FULLY CHARGES IN 8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GAS.It takes about 30 seconds to fill a gas tank in a four door from empty to full.
>>535434349I want something that lasts so I can beat the car finance Jew, registration fee Jew, and insurance cost Jew. You buy a new car you get financially fucked by all three. Fuck that, I'm importing a 25+ year old diesel Landcruiser 70 with zero tech bullshit shat into it.
>>535430229Look it's obvious at this point that EVs are the future for private transport but that doesn't mean I have to like it.ICE vehicles are just way cooler. It's like a quartz watch vs a mechanical watch. Quartz is just better at keeping time and cheaper too. I wear one for work everyday. But I derive no pleasure from it. A mechanical watch is pleasurable though. The engineering is inspiring, the mechanical servicing it requires creates a sense of connection and investment. You have to care about it overtime to keep it functioning. You get to engage with the mechanical engineering by servicing and you are rewarded by its continued function, just like with an engine. The shit thing about EVs is that they will push ICE into an enthusiast category which will increase the cost of participating in it with many becoming priced out of the experience entirely.
>>535430229At what charging station. They got no charging infrastructure network. At least not in Europe. Only Tesla does and they are way ahead of everything else when it comes to charging and tech.
>>535439982Plenty in the US, but most people just drive EVs around cities and short trips anyways.
>>535433899god I hate shills
>>535430229I've used a few BYD cars and they are amazing. When I've spoken to owners (westerners) most of them were previously Tesla owners and switched to BYD because they were about 60% of the price and they like them better. No reliability problems, look good, don't get shabby from wear. Realistically it's probably over for European car makers, I dont know about USA as I'm not there.
>>535430229>>535431310Chink death trap.
>>535430229ITT: 10 year old anti EV talking points
>>535430229That's impossible. Nothing can charge that quickly
>>535430229>ELECTRIC CARS COST $1 PER GALLON WHEN COMPARED TO GAS CARS TO CHARGEFor now, wait a year or two and it's more expensive than gas
>>535433111But the money you pay for them isn't
>>535430229yooo *chinese people don't buy it so they try to trick westerners into buying it* and euros will fall for it lol
>>535430919What are you smoking retard? They're harder to ignite but they carry nearly as much risk as conventional lithium battery packs. It will still melt metal and be difficult to put out if it goes into runaway you mong. You seem like you don't actually understand the risk of having every car stuffed with batteries that love melting everything near them.
>>535430229thats cool but without access to transmission supply voltages you can't get anywhere near those speeds.they said they are charging at near 1,000,000watts.
>>535433111So can get 99% of the money back that I paid for it? How about 70%?
>>535430229I genuinely wonder who the Chinese stole the technology from.
>>535430229Fast charging destroys the battery life so have fun to buy a new battery after 2 years of usage.As a second car and charge your car at home with solar would be actually good and saves money but else completely retarded.
China is mogging hard in the EV market and they can buy all these cars new for 20K while they sell them in other countries for 40-50K and still undercut established brands like toyota etc >>5354303638 year warranty on batteries brand new and they last more like 15+ years now
>>535439724That's unusual. My old 2006 prius is still driven by my dad and it has over 320k km on the clock. the battery is now starting to fail element by element.
>>535430229Isn't the battery made of silver?Silverchads just can't stop winning. I'll be here when silver reaches $1k an ounce within 10 years. Screencap this
>>535430229It's over oilsisters, weep weep
>>535440874It will be 1 sat/ounce
>>535440226Sure they can. If that's a 100kw pack, which it likely is, that's like a 5.5c avg chargerate. Teslas mfg'd in the last few years already charge at around 3c and they're known for using lower voltage charge architecture and having more conservative charge curves. Chargerates that high are impressive but nothing outside the realm of possibility. The only challenge is going to be finding charging infrastructure that can supply in the 1000kw range. The supercharger network is dense and reliable but the current generation of hardware only maxes at 250kw and even the new generation that's supposed to be rolling out soon only maxes at 500kw. It's my understanding that these chinese electric cars, BYD, Zeekr etc are really only capable of hitting these insane chargerates on the factory test hardware, and if youre driving those things out in the real world whether it's north america, europe, australia or even china you're unlikely to be seeing much more than 350kw right now.
some edgelord is gonna bang the connector nozzle with a hammer to make it unusable
>>535430229the real problem with those cars is access to replacement parts. how fast can you get them? are they in stock anywhere close?yuropean ones you can find a lot of parts, new/second hand.it might be nice as long as nothing breaks, but if you need some obscure replacement part how fast can you fix it?the car itself and its price is just part of the whole equation
>>535443948>how fast can you get them?About a week direct from China, or>are they in stock anywhere close?If the cars start selling well, local parts warehouses and servicing centres will be built. The Chinese aren't daft.
>>535430229thats nice but will it turn into an oven when im driving this superduper battery?
>>535430229Chinese cars they are gonna eat the car market
>>535430363cars with engines that break down after just 2 years, what an improvement.
>>535430229Imagine believing chink bullshit. LMAO
Slit all Indian throats
>>535445452Imagine not? What you believe in American company promises these days with DRM cars and tractors with spyware in every software you consume?
>>535430363>2 yearbattery degradation is from from thermal variation (in charging, use, load, storage)cars have active battery cooling. every (good) car is at least 5 years.
>>535431380>No, it doesn't, not in modern EVs lmao>And even if it didAbsolute tech weenie dumb shit
How long does it take you to pump gas you fucking retard?
>>535430363Chinkshills seething at this post
>>535430229>>535430363>>535430443>>535430919Me ChineseMe pray jokeMe go pee pee in you CokeLithium ion batteries are very dangerous, especially as they age. And if they get wet they become catastrophic.NO battery can handle a charge if they're overheating already, so in hot climates, you can't drive then charge then drive. You would have to give the battery time to cool. This is compounded if you're fast charging.So having one of these in Florida, for instance would be inevitable failure These same batteries don't function well in the cold, so during a freeze, you are stranded. They will not hold a charge long and you use about double the energy if you try to keep the cabin of the b vehicle warm.EVs are a meme you chink faggots
>>535432431Post proof. I know you can't because you're lying. No one wants EVs. The market for EVs is drying up
Evs are a self circumcisionIf you believe in God you will not buy anything ChineseChina is jewish
Must be nice to live in a country that is rising instead of falling.
>>535430906"Refurbished lithium-ion battery" should autocorrect to "house fire".
If this is still lithium ion, just know, that the guy who invented this battery (John Goodenough) he created a crystal battery that Hydro Quebec is starting to mass manufacture right now, which has a couple hundred thousand charging cycles instead of like 800 charging cycles with lithium, charges far faster, and have far more capacity. Think cars that you can travel California to Ontario on a single charge. Also no risk of blowing up and a horrible car fire with the crystal battery.
>>535434349Planned obsolescence is not a good thing that shower wands they use in the greenhouse at my Home Depot are all metal and I'm thinking of stealing one because they refuse to sell them. You can't buy them in the store or online, only wands that have plastic components and thus breakdown and need to be replaced are available. I really want a completely metal high quality watering wand.
>>535435958>CONS1. Dependence on the power grid. This is energy centralization. Anyone can have large gas cans at home, and gas station tanks can last weeks until they need a refill. The government or an enemy attack can wipe out a power grid at the click of a finger. Oh well, you have no transportation now. Got horses?Fucking retarded. Anyone can stack extra batteries at home and have a windmill, electric dam, or solar panels at home. You can stock gas at home but once that runs out you're fucked because there's no way you're starting an oil rig in your own backyard.>2. Maintenance. There is no maintenance on an electric car, there is only a new battery or a new computer.BS. It still requires maintenance on other parts of the vehicle.>3. Hazardous materials. Electric car batteries are incredibly destructive to the environment.Crystal batteries which Hydro Quebec are developing are completely innocuous to the environment. Lithium ion is outdated tech.>4. Pollution. Coal-burning plants supply the electricity to charging stations.This depends where you live but even with solar farms and so on there is pollution. Like if you live near Niagra falls your energy comes from hydroelectric dam. There is pollution cost involved in all energy generation.
>>535437828Crystal batteries will work for all those and also don't depend on rare metals, the source material is everywhere and super common and cheap.
Anons that missed out on bitcoin but still want to get rich, get invested in Hydro Quebec.https://news.hydroquebec.com/news/press-releases/all-quebec/hydro-quebec-to-work-on-commercializing-patents-invented-by-nobel-prize-laureate-john-b-goodenough.htmlhttps://www.hydroquebec.com/investor-relations/index.htmlFrance btw has the best nuclear power tech that is far more environmentally friendly than the nuclear power tech of other countries and Quebec is full of innovative French people. For whatever reason the frogs are really good at being on the edge of energy technology.
>>535447521I thought it was a glass battery, I thought they said they would have it commercially available by 2022?
Why do americans say shit like "I don't like evs because it doesn't feel like a real car" When all they drive is automatic. Can somebody explain the difference other than retarded vroom noises ?
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>>535447568I've kept up with it every year. Yes they made a lot of false promises then kept delaying it because these guys are perfectionists. They already had working batteries that were far better than lithium ion shit 10 years ago and if they would have mass manufactured them then, they could have already made a massive leap forward in battery tech, but they decided to spend the last decade now just perfecting them instead. Anyways Hydro Quebec is actually making them right now, it's not planned, it's already begun so we're finally getting them. Personally I think they intentionally held back the tech so they could make as much money as possible selling lithium ion shit to people until the lithium ion starts to run out. Just like how with tablets they already had a 1 TB tablet in a laboratory back when the best tablet you could get as a consumer was 16 GB, and then they spend the next couple years just upgrading like this: 16 GB > 32 GB > 64 GB > 128 GB > 256 GB (where we're at now). There's no reason they couldn't have gone from 16 GB to 1 TB in a single step other than "muh upgrading to a new tablet every year consumer cycle". Similar shit happens with phones, computers, and a ton of other tech. For some reason Nvidia though intentionally jumped forward with GPUs instead of doing the "we'll slightly increase the power of them each year" but that's an exception. Most tech gets artificially held back and it pisses me off but it's all about muh consumerism cycles. Honestly fuck the kikes who planned our economy to be like this, there's more important shit than muh number in a bank account or stock goes up, we could be so advanced already if we weren't being trickle-fed technological upgrades.
>>535446722>post proofIn tucson you couldn't even find electric subaru on the lot, I checked but wasn't interested in ordering for delivery without driving, all were being delivered or had been snapped up, I just checked and they finally got more delivery, 4 electrics on the lot but none for the trailseeker>the market for EVs is drying upYeah okay nigger keep telling yourself thatThis thread is filled with retards who think they need 500 miles of range and think batteries can't be charged in Florida, meanwhile the chink quality of life keeps going up with more than 50% of their auto sales being their own EVs, while your quality of life goes down the shitter due to inflation due to orange nigger printing a shitload of money during covid and then starting a kike war.This kike war will really do a number on you, but you'll buy some shitty hybrid because you need muh 500 miles and get fucked by a dual drivetrain issue.
>>535430229>8 minutesfilling up my tank with gas takes me about 1, if even that much
>>535433414WTF I love Tesla now.
>>535430229>Spies on you. Collects your finger print, your facial recognition, reads your lips and iris and runs your biometrics through a police/law enforcement database, shuts off and refuses to function if and when it it "detects" what it is programmed to not like.Pay $50K for your high-tech ankle monitor, slave. It's "convenient" and has "kewl" gizmos. GTFOHWTFBS
>>535430229where is all the cobalt and lithium going to come from? We need billions of electric cars to replace gas ones. And chinese shit is made poorly and cheaply. I would expect a chinese car to burn me alive
Lmao at all the dumb poltards who still live in the past.
>>535449538LMFP/LFP is cobalt free
Don't look up BYD stock bros
>>535433111And swapping them costs 20k
>>535434892Gem
>>535437640My local dollar tree has batteries from indonesia
>>535430342Those are most likely not lithium but sodium, sodium batteries are far safer and less likely to start fires.
>>535451145swapping to a NEW battery might run you 12kbut, for example with my hatchback, I just found a battery from salvage with 5k miles for about $3kI wouldn't pay out the ass for a crated new old stock ICE engine if the engine somehow blew up or shifted through the floor and it was out of warranty, so why would you pay out the nose for a new old stock battery when you can find ones with a few thousand miles on them?depends on where you are, but for a garage that has the right lift, it's basically like lifting and plugging in a gigantic battery pack like you would an cordless yard tool, except it has a high voltage disconnect and a bunch of bolts.you can see youtube videos of garages doing it if you're interested. it's not a $20k thing at all. once all of these batteries start coming out of warranty, there'll be actual, sizable demand for routine swaps. until then, you have 8-10 year warranties on the batteries.
>>535431978Seek help
>>535433414Can you even smash the windows in a cyber truck?
>>535445698>the BYD cars dont have even worse spywareare you being for real right now anon
>>535451048>not buying the obvious dip
>>535451305More specifically, almost all LFP batteries are Chinese. LFP is the preferred chemistry for EV batteries nowadays, although others are still used
>>535430229In America 8 minutes of having your car disabled increases the chances of a nigger attacking you by 5000% over 2 minutes for gasoline.
>>535434349Wow,nice ai faggot post. My truck, if i keep the rust off of it. Will last another 20 years. Fuck your fay ev bullshit. Ill take my old f150 with a v8 any day.Have fun with your kike telemetry and explosive batteries.
>>535453761sad
>>535430342
>>535430229Imagine the battery degredation.
>>535430229>THE DEBATE IS OVER
>>535430229Can it do as many cycles as a tank of gas?
>>535457482LFP can theoretically do anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000 miles before it hits 80% capacity
>>535437936>Moving currents create magnetic fields but those are undetectable to humans and don't do anything to do you.
>>535430229why do people hate hydrogen and fuel cells?
>>535458418best case is 40% well-to-wheels efficiency for fuel cells, versus 70-80% grid-to-wheels efficiency with electric vehiclesno hydrogen fuel infrastructurestill have to create the hydrogen fuelthey might be good for airplanes thoughcars don't have to fight gravity continuously so weight doesn't matter as much, fuel burns off, battery weight doesn'tplus you get to have regenerative brakes with EVs
>>535430229I could charge for free at work during summer through our oversized solar roof but would be stuck with public charging during winter that costs way too much. Tough choices...
>>535431380>seeing as temperature is always the culprit in degradation of the chemistry.The explain how you can charge a battery of this capacity in 8 minutes and not have it heat up.
>>535431431By being lying chinks
>>535433188Paywall locked. Post an excerpt at least>are becomingNot are 99% recyclable
>>535432721>I see old Prius hybrids still going.How do you know the batteries haven’t been replaced? Also a hybrid is different than a fully EV
>>535430229>8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GASalready lying
>>535430229>THE DEBATE IS OVERNO IT'S NOT, faggot.
>>535433581No, it’s a 1pbtid EV shill being retarded
>>535460542Aggressive liquid cooling, pre-conditioning the pack before charging, engineering the blade cells to be long, thin and flat (hence the name, blade) to ensure the shortest path to said cooling, the battery chemistry itself has a higher thermal headroom than NMC chemistry, decomposition temperature, google says it's 270 celsius versus 200 celsius in NMCthey also use a 1,000 volt architecture versus 400v in current EVs,, which means half the current for the same powerresistive heating scales with current squaredhalving the current cuts heat generation to a quarter
>>535433899>Also, battery fires are not that much different from other fires and can be suppressed the same way. You just dump water on it or let it burn out.That’s absolutely false. You can watch things like an entire EV section of a dealership going up in flames and proving this wrong >t. Firefighter.God I hope you’re just larping and not this dumb
>>535430229Go eat some bugs chang
>>535430229Imagine unironically buying a Chinese designed vehicle
>>535430229>ITS MOVINdo americans know they are retarded?
>>535461366Chang's quality of life keeps going up, and your quality of life keeps going down because of some kike war, with your grocery bill quadrupling since 2006 with everything being shittier and smallerMaybe one day you'll wake the fuck up and realize that kikes only plan to rob you while Chang has a plan to mog youNeeds to be said, I'm White, but Elon Musk literally got mogged by whatever the name of the head engineer at BYD is when he said that Tesla's LFP architecture would suck after Musk explained it to him, to his face, because said Chang is an engineer and Musk is a kike who has only stolen and faked his way upAnd he was right, Tesla's LFP versus BYD's blade LFP sucks
>>535430229now its cheap, when majority of cars will become electric, then electricity will spike in price and will cost similar to regular fuel. its all a clown shitshow, but people will hop on, because muh trendz
>if have to charge at a public chargerMillennial problems. You don’t own a home so it would be a regularly recurring issue for you rather than something you only have to worry about on road trips.Every issue with EV’s has turned out to be nonsense outside of fringe edge cases. >I have to commute 200 miles a dayProbably not a good choice>I tow an 11,000lb horse trailer 800 miles every TuesdayStop being retarded and stick with diesel.For about 60% of the country, EV’s are a better choice. The average commute is well within range, even weekly. It’s just that there are a fuckton of poor people who rent their houses and wouldn’t be able to charge at home. I heard towing a moderate load with one is actually better than gas or diesel. You don’t have to wait for turbo to spool up and get you into the right power band, and you don’t have to wait for a fucking 10-speed automatic transmission to figure out the right gear to be in. People are reporting that range drops drastically and you can only drive for about 3 hours. Driving 1.5 hours for a day on the water is way, WAY further than what most people are doing >>535430363The Boomer-tier replies to this are pretty funny. How can anyone claim to be under the age of 60 and still think EV batteries die after in a couple of years? How out of touch are you?
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>>535434349>Nothing is built to last. And "that's a good thing", when you can push out something nearly twice as good in 3-8 years. Why make anything to last?Kill yourself
>>535434760>or the Ford LightningYou mean the one they already stopped making because it sucks and no one likes it?
>>535430229Complete incineration with the blacktop in less than 8 min when the fire department arrives it’s toasted.
>>535462729No, they are adding a gas generator to it because retards think they need MUH 500 MILES, in other words they’re turning it into an EREV and getting rid of the frunk It’s literally just an f150, most of the parts are interchangeable At least they aren’t turning it into a gas/electric dual drivetrain Rube Goldberg piece of shit, the generator will just charge the battery
>>535463691>>535462729Also, I own one nigger. Changed IDs because mobile. Best money I ever spent instead of worrying about a LP generator, I just use the pro power and plug it into my inlet. Powers my home for a week.
>>535430443this, honestly.
>>535431155damn you are fucking retard, you know a tank of gas has even more energy density right?
>>535439612When my gasoline powered car bursts into flames, the electronic door handle doesn't lose power and cook me alive.
And who will pay for my fully charged car?I'm about to be priced out of basic electricity in a 1 roomer now that they're raising work taxes here again so a total of 50% taxes.Might as well not work anymore so I guess I don't need a portable fire hazard then
>>535465542Chinks banned that, because they're not retarded kikeshttps://www.iaa-mobility.com/en/newsroom/news/future-technology/china-to-ban-electronic-door-latches-and-pop-out-door-handles-by-2027They're also going to start requiring physical buttons instead of shitty tablets, because again they're not retarded kikes looking to wring every last dollar from you and justify it with some bullshit about minimalismFunny how chinks safety and accessibility regulations now surpass the USA
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/l4nax9jA0WY
>>535465956I am starting to wonder if my idea of moving to Shanghai to start a Chinese family ten years ago was not a bad idea.
>>535430363>2 year driver life btw
>>535466647>fuel tank ruptures don't cause fireshttps://chattanooga.gov/stay-informed/latest-news/crash-causes-i-24-car-firehttps://www.nbc26.com/appleton/lanes-reopen-after-vehicle-fire-disrupts-traffic-at-i41etcWhat's funny is reverse image searching these chink cars on fire brings up 50 more examples of light ICE vehicles on fire in the USA
>>535460991You can still drive a Prius once the battery is dead. There are plenty of them driving around this way.
>>535430342Stop having a brain, anon. Just believe the chinks, corpos, journos and stock scammers. Even IF the chink battery could take that nothing else associated with this in scale can, including our grid. We are already talking about rolling blackouts later this year, this is just an excuse to send your time and labor to kikes and control your travel.
>>535468874The chemistries of the old priuses were expected to only get 150,000 miles.With LFP chemistry you can get 300,000 to 500,000 miles before your battery is degraded to 80% capacity.Also, you fundamentally cannot bypass the hybrid architecture of even the first gen priuses, you'd have to nigger rig it by dropping in an engine and transmission from another non-hybrid car. You might as well pay $2k for a new battery and do it yourself, you just have to take off trim pieces and disconnect it, remove it, and drop it in.>>535469124>We are already talking about rolling blackouts later this year,Yeah and thanks to the kike fantasy land where the US government promised subsidies for datacenters, the cost of your power goes up without those datacenters paying for any infrastructure upgrades. Your concern about pulling in a megawatt into a chink car isn't a concern for the grid. It's a local engineering problem.Whereas hyperscale datacenters will be pulling in the energy of 100,000 homes 24/7, a megawatt charge pulling in the energy of 8,000 homes for a few minutes isn't really much of a concern because those charging stations will be managed with the grid.
>>535430229Yhea it totally pisses me off having to replace my expense gas tank every 3 years.
>>535470097Do you drive 400,000 miles every three years, nigger?
>>535451941>a battery from salvage with 5k miles for about $3kYou retarded nigger that car was involved in a crash and there is a high probability that the battery is damaged and may go up in flames.Nigger
>>535430229.
>>535430229,
>>535467528cope>implying google search results aren't 110% skewed towards shilling for Beijing>literal search for any product whatsoever and the first million results are aliexpress, temu sheit etc>first sight visiting Android app store is ten consecutive fucking ads for CCP spywareyep, that'd be google alright, an "American company"but mp4 I posted was from an actual horrific EV accident where two collided and no one could get outhttps://x.com/serpentza/status/2054958446467051897and for even worse irony, the original poster recommends tesla which while obviously safer also have electronic doors which can malfunction, and in the case of China and Europe, also are MIC
>>535430229'
How many charging cycles before it combusts into a fireball and traps you inside because the doors need to be powered by the battery, now on fire, to open?
>>535470202Not really. With the way airbag deployment works, a car is basically totalled even if the battery is nowhere near a collision.Tesla sets a lockout flag if it's been through any airbag deployment, for example, so that they can be the ones that sell the battery.Obviously when I say "salvage" I don't mean you literally go pick it out of the car. That "salvage" battery has had the casing opened and the coolant system and casing damage inspected for that price.>niggerYou're literally brown.
>>535470234Isn't induction charging extremely inefficient? The grid can't even handle a few datacenters. How would they be able to charge all the motorways in the US?
>>535431345Fucking subhuman bugs like this infuriate me. I don’t give a shit whatsoever about the animals they choose to eat, but fuck sake can they at least put the animal down first?I can’t imagine the small amount of edible meat they get off of it would be any good with the amount of adrenaline that was running though that doggo while it was being boiled alive.Disgusting little insects.
>>535430229The next 10 years will be interesting. Will we see a deluge of BYD breakdowns or will they be shown to last?
>>535470425>>but mp4 I posted was from an actual horrific EV accident where two collided and no one could get outYeah, which is why chinks outlawed those door handles.>fuel tank ruptures on US highways are on google because of chink shillingKill yourself, retard. There's a tremendous amount of energy density with any method to get a fucking car to move for hundreds of miles, gasoline or battery pack.
THE ALIEN ARRIVAL IS CONFIRM FOR TUESDAY MORNING 9:30 AM EST TIME.QANON INSIDER HERE WITH DEEPSTATE ILLUMINATI SEE YOU ALL IN THE MOTHERSHIPS GOODLUCK SAFE.PS. Disappearance of UFO expert Gen. Neil McCasland 'confirmed gameover'
>chink vehicles out perform mexican built USA vehicles>every post ITT desperately trying to find flaws
>>535469954>The chemistries of the old priuses were expected to only get 150,000 miles.According to whom? Toyota? Lmao>Also, you fundamentally cannot bypass the hybrid architecture of even the first gen priuses.I worked years for Toyota, you will have to tell your shitty lies to someone else nigger.
>>535470878Sorry car salesman bitch nobody cares about electric cars anymore and this entire thread are simply patriots arguing with minmaxxers incel idiots who live their lives on “higher number = good” like betraying my country is worth buying a car I don’t even want for extra range I don’t need.
>>535470944Show me a single documented example of bypassing the hybrid system in a Prius that doesn't involve dropping in an engine and transmission from a Toyota Echo, you retarded spic.
>>535430229>Standard gas station pumps for passenger vehicles dispense fuel at an average rate of 8 to 10 gallons per minute> average size of a modern sedan is 12-15 gallons X for doubt
>>535470434picrel old Tesla technology. Free wireless electricity soon?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6FxmXIVIr8Free global wifi confirmed:>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3G0X_Om7Xog
>>535470878Chink product bans only exists so the rich are the only ones that get benefit from cheap Chinese labor.They tell us it's a security and safety problem to sell their products here, but have no problem making their shit there despite them stealing shit and the CCP requiring shit like Chinese spyware on their servers.
>>535471089Nigger once the battery of prius fails you will just have an ongoing warning lamp but you can still drive with the combustion engine.I don’t need to show you shit I worked on them for years you retarded nigger
>>535470640>How would they be able to charge all the motorways in the US?With (previously) suppressed technology.
>>535430229Holy mog
>>535471343>once the battery of prius fails you will just have an ongoing warning lamp but you can still drive with the combustion engine.No nigger, that's called limp mode. It's a warning that your Prius is about to stop working when the battery actually fails.The way you phrased it, was as if you can drive it without a care in the world forever. That is not correct. Because you cannot bypass the hybrid system once the battery actually fails and just "drive it around on the combustion engine."You simply drop in a new $2k battery, it's dead fucking simple on a Prius.
>>535471074Sre you saying you actually buy American cars? Just because they are assembled in America? Lmao what a monkey brained nigger. You would have to put a gun to my head to get me to buy an American vehicle made after 1990 save a couple models of sports car, or the trucks until about 2005.
>>535430342Think about the power grid having to support the power spikes from this.
>>535430229Eight minutes isn't faster than filling up a tank of gas. That said, it is fast enough to not really matter.
>>535435087Nice propaganda lie.>IPCC 6°C temp riseOops it is just 2.5°C now if at allOh actually 1.4°C already happened of that>IPCC worst rise ever, totally man made Turns out they removed a 200-300 year warm period in the middle ages that was hotter than their worst case scenario, but which would have made their claims and graphs look retarded.Yeah the battery is totally recyclable to 100% even and it is totally not energy waste doing so.Dude not even glass is 100% recyclable.
>>535430229Still more convenient to charge overnight at home.Nobody should be fast charging more than a couple of times per year and after driving 4+ hours so a pee stop is welcome.
>>535440739Fun fact Germany moved everything to China and chinese pay 20k and Germans pay 40k.German government claims this is good for the German economy.
>>535472184Nigger what the fuck are you even talking about. I don't give a shit about global warming.I enjoy not having to worry about sparkles in the oil pan or some piece of shit nigger-tier transmission shifting through the floor and fucking me to the tune of $7,500, or a power steering box needing replaced, and so on and so forth.There's simply less that can go wrong with EV.The battery chemistry is "recyclable" insofar as that it doesn't require toxic leaching pools to do so, whereas Chinks happily provide the service of getting cancer from those toxic pools by extracting it from the ground so I don't have to deal with it.
>>535471385>With (previously) suppressed technology.Just for fun:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdBrlu7nUhs
>>535472602>Just for fun:Not completely tho.
>>535431579>they don't even make cars anymore so why the upset?Because a jewish occupation is forcibly stopping us from making better cars, we aren't choosing not to make good cars.
>>535472494>There's simply less that can go wrong with EV.There be a few things of note, a different set of knowledge needs to be known to repair them which won't be a problem for the man of the future.Parts support ain't so great, but combustion engines only got it due to how much historical support they have.Storing batteries is annoying, but gas just eventually becomes useless by that metric.Also unlike a gas car a car full of battery packs if they rupture and chain open each other will turn into a little 2000C micronova which is funny.Gas and oil are definitely annoying, dirty and cause a lot of their own problems though, just look at how awful it is to deal with carb'd shit.
>Buy Your DeathNo thanks ricedick.
>>535433111By the ocean
>>535430345This
>>535473240>just look at how awful it is to deal with carb'd shit.I had to figure out why the fuck my piece of shit crossover suddenly wouldn't start in negative temps, check the terminals, had to walk a few miles and back with a new battery, was cranking but who the fuck knows, no dice, sit there and listen to the fuel pump to be sure the shit isn't freezing up, pull and smell a plug, fuck it. Ten more steps, one hour later with my balls freezing off in a parking lot, removing the alternator, it was contamination on the CKP.It's just stupid to worry about battery chemistry that will last 300,000+ miles when so much shit can go wrong, and does, in ICE vehicles. I enjoy them, but I don't enjoy them when I just want to get from point A to point B.
Battery fags don’t wash their feet
>>535461179I am the same guy you’re responding to, just on desktop now.You are misinformed. I really am a Firefighter.Years ago, when EVs were completely new, even many Firefighters were skeptical about how these EVs could be extinguished and there was a lot of speculation when nobody had any experience with it.But in recent years we have experience and studies on it.And the gist of it is this: The fires are similar to gasoline fires and can be suppressed the same way.The batteries actually don’t catch fire that easily. Gasoline ignites in a crash more often.And should a battery burn, you don’t need any special extinguishing agent like foam or anything. Just dumping copious amounts of water on it works fine.Please don’t scare people away from simple solutions with your misinformation.But you don’t have to trust me alone, do your research and find some other Firefighters and ask them.I watched a video some time ago with Dr. Rolf Erbe from the Berlin Fire department where he talks about this as well. Maybe you can watch that with English auto-dub:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEyRdlB6S4
>>535430229neat
>>535475110>neatWelcome back from your ban.
>>535430229YEAH BUT THE BADGE SAYS BYDBINGBONG YANGWANG DINGDONG AUTOMOBILE CO LTDAINT NOBODY WANT A CAR SAYS BYD ON IT
>>535470234>>535470278This shit is so retarded, we already had this technology over 100 years ago. We're going to go back to using street cars at this point and come full circle.
>>535436334You aren’t supposed to fast charge it everyday. It’s used for emergencies when you actually need them. Normal people usually charge them overnight.
>>535430229What is so special about BYD?I always hear claims they're better, but no reason why.
>>535470696Pain and suffering make the meat taste better, flying in the face of what any hunter will tell you.Disgusting little fucks
>>535476828I have one. They are cheap with top notch technology while being reliable (still need time to confirm).
>>535476704>>535476828The gist is that with this chemistry and architecture, the fast charging, even pushing in a megawatt, there's basically much less degradation to make that viable.Consider the Chevy Bolt for example, they were very conservative in their "fast charging" in that it took an hour and a half to get to 80% despite being aggressively cooled, this was an intentional architecture limitation due to the NMC batteries chemistry, thus they architected it conservatively . The technology gets better with other EVs, but the fast charging with that fundamental chemistry leads to much more degredation over the lifetime, so that you should only use it for "emergencies" and definitely don't fast charge it to 100% even if you can do it quickly, in 30 minutes for example.LFP chemistry comes along and is far more robust and forgiving to charge to 100% all of the time, it can get hotter, etc. Tesla has it. Sure. But it still degrades more with the fast charging, so still only when you definitely need it.But BYD has architected it so that there's much less degradation because they cut the heat generation to a quarter by halving the current (1000v architecture), engineer the packs so that there's much better cooling, and the cells themselves were reworked to accept that current without the wear.
>>535477676Also, "much more degredation" is still basically a non-issue over the lifetime of the battery. You aren't losing 50,000 miles of lifetime, it's much much less, by fast charging a few times a week, even with NMC, or on a road trip. But if you really care to not facefuck the battery, to save as much as you can with the life, then yes.But, long story short, BYD is pushing a megawatt into their car and Tesla isn't, and this makes niggers seethe.
>>535430229Americans cant even understand this technology, for them electricity is scary or something. Thats why they use 110V, because smaller number = less scary
>>535431380>I didn't cheat on her!>and if I did she deserved it!
>>535478075we fucking invented electricity distribution, nigger. and we have both 110v for outlets and 220v for appliances like dryers and water heaters. but you don't care, you just wanted to seethe about us for the umpteenth time.
>>5354785093-4% percent of lost range, the fast charging "penalty" if you do it all the time, over a 300,000+ mile lifetime is basically a non-issue. By 300,000 miles driven, your range is 270 (total degredation + fast charging penalty) miles instead of 280 (no fast charging), assuming 300 mile range when your battery was new.
>>535430363>2 year battery life btwIt can be a problem, but the high end batteries will outlive most cars, there's very little degradation.
>>535430229>$1 per gallonYeah for now. Wait until everyone has one
>>535430700The United States of Cope.
>>535481173Leaf faggot detected
i've had a chong ev for about 2 years now and absolutely 0 issues besides shitty driving assists (mostly ISA), they're good cars as long as you stick to at minimum super-mainstream on the pyramid
>FULLY CHARGES IN 8 MINUTES THATS FASTER THAN IT TAKES TO FILL A TANK OF GAS.eight. fucking. minutes??? certain states in america such as mine have a rule where gas stations must have attendants and you can’t self-serve (so the tons of jobs wouldn’t be lost at once)…the attendants fill you up in less than a minute. they handle the CC or cash in 30 seconds or so. they go at warp speed. eight minutes would be unheard of.
>>535430229Solid state?
>>535430363>unreal battery degradation
>>535432284>30 years outKek you can easily say the same for normal ice cars you dummy. They last the same duration
>>535430443>Chinks won. Xi left semen on trumps face. Many such cases.Trump willingly kneels for the COF.
>>535481659Boomer lol
>>535434520>And there are 15 times more gas stations than charging stations.There's like 15,000 more electrical plugs than gas pumps, if we're gonna get technical
Why's there always a shit ton of secret China men always hiding around to pop out and tell you about China? Is so strange.
>>535484458Are they the ones telling me about everything else too? Hmmmm
>>535430345kill urself Niggerlon Ma shill. BYD cars >> your faggot shitbox hick mobile with the miga dildo strapped to the driver's seat COMMIT SUICIDE NIGGER
>>535434070Your whole country's identity is sucking chink dick because of a perpetual seethe state at the US
