Leninism's>Capitalists can buy themselves out of any crisis, so long as they make the workers pay>All official and liberal science defends wage-slavery, whereas Marxism has declared relentless war on that slavery.>I can't listen to music too often. It affects your nerves, makes you want to say stupid nice things and stroke the heads of people who could create such beauty while living in this vile hell.>Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle.>When a liberal is abused, he says, ‘Thank God they didn’t beat me.’ When he is beaten, he thanks God they didn’t kill him. When he is killed, he will thank God that his immortal soul has been delivered from its mortal clay.>What is a liberal-democratic philistine? An empty gut, filled with cowardice.>All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake "public opinion" for the benefit of the bourgeoisie>Production becomes social, but appropriation remains private. The social means of production remain the private property of a few.>the development of capitalism has arrived at a stage when, although commodity production still ‘reigns’ and continues to be regarded as the basis of economic life, it has in reality been undermined and the big profits go to the ‘geniuses’ of financial manipulation. At the basis of these swindles and manipulations lies socialised production; but the immense progress of humanity, which achieved this socialisation, goes to benefit the speculators. We shall see later how ‘on these grounds’ reactionary, petty-bourgeois critics of capitalist imperialism dream of going back to ‘free,’ ‘peaceful’ and ‘honest’ competition.Sister thread on /lit/ about YA fiction and capitalism>>>/lit/25289621
>>535432738All thieving commie niggers should hang.
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Communism is the worst choice.Capitalism + UBI is the best way.
>>535433112Is Trump either a Christian or a National Socialist Christian?
>>535433286so, socialism lite?
>>535432738How come you niggas welcome Stalinists, Maoists, Hoxhaists but never welcome Trotskyists or Bukharinists.
>>535433286UBI will only ever be enough to be a paypig for "digital content" and depress wages
>>535433286Keynesianism with the Bismarck Model or Beveridge Model.From 1930 to 1981 was the golden age of capitalism under Keynesian Economics btw.
>>535433423There are Trotskyist communist groups. The primary reason broader Marxist-Leninist movements do as you say is because they tend to side with North Korea, China, Cuba, etc all of whom have a favorable view of Mao who did not like Trotskyism.
>>535432738>Marxism General
>>535433423Trotskyism is already the status quo of the world to be desu
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>>535434192t. projecting mentally ill tranny>>535433872real communists kill faggots. Nobody likes faggots>In the process of building a communist society after Fidel Castro came to power in 1959 in Cuba, one of the ideas Che Guevara presented and promoted was the notion of the “new man.” This concept grew out of Guevara’s aversion to capitalism, and was first explained in his note on “Man and Socialism in Cuba“. He believed that “The individual under socialism (…) is more complete,” and that the state should educate men and women in anti-capitalist, cooperative, selfless and non-materialistic values.Anyone who deviated from the “new man” was seen as a ”counter-revolutionary.” Such was the case of gay men —whom Guevara referred to as “sexual perverts.” Both Guevara and Castro considered homosexuality a bourgeois decadence. In an interview in 1965, Castro explained that “A deviation of that nature clashes with the concept we have of what a militant communist should be.”
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>>535434806so what happens if you execute all lesbians?
>>535435011My last two girlfriends were lesbians so I might end up an incel
>>535432738Why is it that people who have never lived under communism, who have never had to wait in line for bread, want communism in their countries? There's a reason why communism is banned in ex-communist countries
>>535435253They're retarded and evil, that's why
>>535432738I was considering posting something mean, but it is unironically better and more sensible to be a communist than a Trump supporter in 2026.
>>535435253Bread lines existed under capitalism too.
>>535435293I agree. Under communism and central planning, rural people were starving, unlike people in the cities. Orders were given by stupid people from the top down who expected us to complete them at any cost. I remember we were forced to donate our rice to people we didn't know, and most of us donated inedible rice just to meet the quotas so we wouldn't get in trouble
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>>535435658Under capitalism orders are also given from the top down but sharecropping requires you give your crops to the wealthy instead of the needy
>>535435841>the wealthyYou mean the people who have what it takes to make things happen? Look at China. They were starving before capitalism was reintroduced, and people had a chance to do business and get wealthy as a result. Go live on an island, stop using devices, services made possible by capitalism and capitalists.
>>535436104>Landowners in sharecropping "made things happen"Stupid >They were starving before capitalism was reintroducedChina always suffered from famines, long before communism, but they ended prior to Dengism, in part because communism industrialized the countryCapitalists do not make or provide anything, labor does
>>535432738Kill yourself.
>>535432738Jewish Tranny Generalhttps://youtu.be/moWe3rk7LzQ
>>535435841Communists like you are retarded and evil. Why haven't you moved to North Korea yet? Go live there and experience the glory of communism and labor. I would rather live in a capitalist society where some win, some lose, than a communist society where all people suffer equally.
>>535436421North Korea has a higher level of math and literacy attachment than America, so does Cuba, despite both being embargo and sanctioned to shit and both having America on their doorstep waiting to invade immediately when the time is right.
>>535436618Communists are known truth-tellers, we all know.
>>535436678While the higher literacy hasn't been verified for NK independently, their higher math has, so have Cuba's better math and literacy>are known truth tellersCapitalists are known liars
Thought about it today, when I was a kid Sweden was quite different, there was only one telecomminications company, Televerket, and only one pharmacy chain, the state pharmacy, only one company operating buses and commuter trains in Stockholm. Then we got private companies instead. And now it seems over half of everything is a foreign or multinational corporation.
I voted red for some reason.
>>535437081Every public good will be privatized. Like Marx says, commodification is the process wherein capitalism transforms qualitative values into quantative ones, and because capitalism needs to constantly grow, or it dies, this will just get worse and worse
>>535437541Point being Sweden was considered socialist up until the 90s, unlike the USA, don't see your point. I said nothing about better or worse.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Totalitarians
>>535436843>Muh private property rights moved from me to the state, this means private property has been dissolved.Imagine making yourself and even poorer slave as though that will change things.Capitalism is the primal force every single living things must abide by, resource gathering.
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>>535437796It's so odd to me how conservatives compare communism to BNW or 1984 when both of those books depict anti-literate societies, whereas communism has always raised literacy and made doing so a top priority, and has a better track record on this than capitalism does>>535437819>The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property [privatized capital]-The Communist Manifesto
>>535437796He probably assumes pre 1990 Sweden = better and post 1990 Sweden = worselike me
>>535435253Don't worry vietbro, we know you have CIA propaganda in your mind. Communism is future. Watch hakim and hassan to get redpilled. You dont know what youre talking about
marxism and especially marxism-leninism is aimed at a (mostly) preindustial society, it does not work in our postindustrial first world countriesit only "worked" for that specific time, we dont have workers like they did in the 1800shence why after the russian revolution we only saw preindustrial asian countries turn communisttrotsky was a little more into general systems thinking instead of just solving the periods problems, but his solution wasnt any more realistic
>>535437978It's funny how New Math was introduced in the west to catch up with communism but it just made everyone stupider
>>535436421capitalism is the snake that eats itself and always will be. we’re living in a mild dystopia now.
>>535438314Marxism puts a huge emphasis on industrialization, the fact that Russia wasn't industrialized was a major point of concerns among the Bolsheviks due to this. Mensheviks felt that a Marxist state would not even be possible yet because Russia needed capitalism to industrialize the country firstMarx placed such huge emphasis on industrialization because it leads to a laboring class that has class consciousness and becomes accustomed to working together as a large, complex, organized unit
>>535438419i dont get why modern leftists stare themselves blind at dogmatic marxismmaybe they truly dont have brains
>>535438557Modern leftism is Marxist-Leninist? Pretty sure it hasn't been ever since the New Left
>>535438342They lied. It was about juicing the masses harder.
>>535438619my party is just «marxist»any ideas what that could mean?
>>535438766Same thing generally.
>>535438619here in holland? if you discount all the champagne socialists, yes all you have left is marxist-leninist children with some severely mentally ill anarchists thrown in as welleither being far too occupied with the culture war than anything serious our labour party even rebranded themselves to some vague abstract name without any real meaning
>>535438839alright then fuck it
>>535435693fucking finally someone who's posting the real shitthanks comrade bruce
>>535438855The culture war is the New Left
>>535432738thoughts on marxism-hitlerism?
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>>535438954just stop the infighting already
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>>535439111But that's what it was designed for>In the United States, the CIA, through the Congress for Cultural Freedom, funded various intellectuals, cultural organizations and magazines affiliated with the New Left that championed anti-communist ideas and Western values.[7][8][9][10]
>>535439018>>535439113uhhh ok
>>535439165and it’s so bad i voted old left. what now?
>>535439277Oh it's not really anything to worry about, more and more leftist media is returning to old left. Jacobin is now the predominant socialist publication in English and they are very critical of the new left. I just think psyops are harder today with social media, that's why Trump couldn't hype Americans into war
>>535432738Was ever communism voted into power? Of what ethnicity were the majority of the Bolsheviks leaders?
>>535439165so that gives you reason to participate? whats your goal by polarising?
>>535439469those ARE the retarded children i mentionedhalf of what jacobin shits out is about palestine, a quarter is decades old communist dogma and the rest is a pseudointellectual circle jerk
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>>535441021>3 finnswtf
>>535440659cold war measures not really relevant today i guess
>>535441909the modern day leftist is completely buck brokenjust look at >>535439469if jacobin is supposed to be the answer to the new left the entire movement is just a massive jokewhat does palestine have to do with workers right? how does protesting against israel solve domestic systemic problems? palestinians arent even broadly leftist, most of them are full conservatard bigotsmost palestinians ive spoken to are either alhamdulillah retards or hate it therei support the movement fully when its about preventing genocide, but i dont believe for a second it has anything to do with left wing ideology
