>Italkim (Italiani) — the oldest Jewish community in Europe, continuously present in Italy since Roman times (2nd century BCE onward). They predate both Ashkenazi and Sephardi as categories. They have their own liturgical rite (Nusach Italki), their own Judeo-Italian dialects, and historically centered in Rome, where the community is the oldest continuous Jewish community in Europe. Roman Jews will tell you firmly they are neither Ashkenazi nor Sephardi.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_JewsWhat do you guys think. An older Jewish sect than the Ashkenazi? Wouldn't that make them the uber elite Jews? And they're centered in Rome? Kinda odd, don't ya say?
>>535435564"Italian Rite Judaism" sounds pretty wild to me. Apparently there is less kabbalistic influence in this sect, which is interesting.
>>535435564The Baruch family descend from these types of Jews, and they are more powerful than any Rothschild or Rockefeller ashkenazi monkeys.
>>535435793Do these guys run the Vatican?
>>535435917Maybe. Not sure. I thought the North Italian and South German aristocracy were behind the Vatican, who I'm pretty sure are not Jews but then again they could be crypto-Jews, and I wouldn't be surprised if they contaminated their bloodlines with Jews throughout history.I'd put it as such - Monarchical Pharisaic dynasties & world Jewry- Pharisee bloodlines paired with north-west European monarchies.- Possess a long-standing monopoly on the money supply as a financial oligarchy.- Believe themselves to be the rightful rulers of the world as they claim to be the descendants of King David.- Are behind the Democrats, the EU, Saudi Arabia (and most Gulf Arabs), big tech, Hollywood, the media.- Use Jewry as their personnel network.Anglos- British and Americans in tandem with Jewish capital.- Have their own contradictions and internal animosity, but share a common interest in destroying Romano-Germanic Europe.Western European aristocracy - Black Nobility (Guelph) families of northern Italy and southern Germany (Massimo, Pallavicini, Orsini, Colonna etc).- Descended from Roman bloodlines or the Phoenicians if not Roman-Phoenicians.There's more, but I haven't confirmed it. Will put it together later for an article here:https://executiveconcern.substack.com/
>>535436044You summoned the Orsini from north Queensland .How do I get in on the control dad left Switzerland as soon as he has kids and we haven't met our grandparents nikkoli and Christina.I'm game to do evil shit if it gets me out of working at the supermarket.
>>535435564Yeah they probably went there after the temple was destroyed
>>535436179If you're an Orsini working in a supermarket then you're probably a branch that has been cut off. You may also have relatives who also work in other supermarkets, bit like how the King of England has descendants down here that are regular people (albeit placed it fairly safe if not strategic positions under the radar, like as sheep farmers).
>>535435564Why are all your self designations slavic?I piss on judaism, on your rabbis and on your jewish nation
>>535436179And maybe do a DNA test. Genome sequence:Nebula Genomicshttps://www.genetrackaustralia.com/ancestry/GEDmatchGenomelinkPrometheaseGenetic LifehacksMy True Ancestry- Have a certified and accredited lab analyse your DNA, then use the free databases to get the actual results.
>>535436269Dad claims the family origin to be descended from a Merovingian wizard with long hair.Iv never heard the King David claim before.I'm not sure he was cut off I think he ran away when my big sister was born.
>>535436044All of them are just niggers Fuck baal, moloch, ashteroth and all the fallen angels, giants, titans and spirits of the nephilim and their badlands
>>535435917In other words,>is "the west" a Jewish project?I'm only half-kidding. All of the empires prior to Rome were more eastern. Whether you call it Jewish or Persian (since the Persians coined the term Judea as a province of their empire) is kind of besides the point. You could even say Babylonian, Assyrian, Mesopotamian. The "eternal kike" that 4chan is after.I think we need to recognize something: Canaanites and Phoenicians are the same people. If you are king of the Canaanites, then you are king of the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians were known to be massive colonizers all over the Mediterranean and even northern parts of Europe (see: Baal religion finding its way into Norse tradition). In the end, it really came down to Rome vs Phoenicia for dominance of the Mediterranean. The conflation of Phoenicia with Carthage (as though their only center of power was in that one city) is what a casual reading of history gets wrong. "Rome" was a military arm of an empire that was largely fueled by banks which were no doubt Phoenician in origin. The Roman Empire would never have existed were it not for the Italkim.
>>535436274>Why are all your self designations slavic?Idk what you're referring to.
>>535435564jews aren't why you can't get laidyour parents didn't love you and had your dick mutilated
>>535436364Canaanites, Phoenicians and Carthaginians are all the same peopleJews are an offshoot of the pharisees, of curse remembrance
>>535436311No way I'm already worried about being used as some rich dudes blood bag because of my o neg blood,last thing I need is some ancient aristocrat from Europe knocking me off because my bone marrow matches theirs.
>>535436432Who did Ulysses visit that took 16 days sail 10 of which were outside the pillars of Hercules?There has been many Phoenician artifacts dug out of bronze age mounds in the British isles.Here's a Philistines seal dug out of the ground in Ireland.I think the world was a lot more connected that modern scholars think.
>>535436352The Merovingians are the oldest European dynasty.Charlemagne was one of the first Frankish kings of the Carolingian line, which displaced the Merovingians in the 8th century. So far as I know, the Carolingians have the Vatican on their side against the Merovingians.>Iv never heard the King David claim before.pic relatedIt also goes back to how all of the Western European leadership, especially the Brits, claimed descent from Troy via Brutus.British Israelism was a psycho-historical attack on the commonly accepted Trojan descent of Britons, and Freemasons of the Orange Order promoted it heavily, replacing their history with Judeo-Christian Israelism. This went on to claim that the Trojan royal line originated from the tribe of Judah via Zerah, son of Judah and Tamar, with descendants migrating to establish nations like Britain, in an attempt to link British (and Roman) history to Semitism and Jewry.Freemasonry was organized by Jews to convert the gullible gentry that they too were also the real Jews/Israelites. Now the king is a descendant of King David instead of Aeneas.Obviosuly it connects to Rome and how all of the oldest towns in Europe are founded by Rome and have Augustus in them in one way or another.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_founded_by_the_Romanshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Roman_towns_and_cities_in_GermanyEtc etc. Much of the Western leadership let themselves get overtaken and overwritten by Jews. >I'm not sure he was cut off I think he ran away when my big sister was born.I know members of the nobility who might be able to help you depending on what you want from this connection, assuming you're not lying.
>>535436359They're an elite embarrassment. Proof: Just look around at the world today, an afro-asiatic hellscape. Stupid faggots let their domain and the world go to the jews.
>>535436364Speaking of Rome...Do the Ashkenazi have a lot of overlap with the Byzantine Empire? I know maps show the Ashekanz tribe (or the Ascanius tribe, in Latin) to be in northeastern Anatolia, close to Hyrcania.It would be interesting if the Roman project was Phoenician funded (though it ultimately led to a lot of destruction on Phoenician lands, see: Carthage), which became the Catholic faction (though some retain rights to Judaism), and the eastern branch of Phoenicians become the Ashkenazi.>>535436432>Jews are an offshoot of the pharisees, of curse remembranceThe Italkim were already in Rome in 200 BC. Your timeline doesn't make sense if the Pharisees didn't even exist back then. I think the major power factions in Judea at the time boiled down to which royal family was in charge. You had the Hasmoneans, the Herods, the Onias family ("Onassis"? just seeing this now,,,), and a few others.I think the Pharisees are a concept specific to the period of Jesus where there was a priesthood from the previous regime mixing some of their older traditions in with the newer ones. In other words, they weren't an authentic part of "Jewish" life, at least before around 2000 years ago.
>>535436674>I know members of the nobility who might be able to help you depending on what you want from this connection, assuming you're not lying.I have a connection to Irish nobility. I know my last name comes from the pre-English period. Seems like they held out a little longer to Rome.Never explored trying to connect with anyone, but that would be cool.
>>535436364>>is "the west" a Jewish project?No. But they attempt to claim it as such. Similar to how non-Whites claim to be American or Australian.>Canaanites and Phoenicians are the same people.The children of Herakles were the Sea Peoples. Sea Peoples confederation:Denyen, Ekwesh, Peleset and Teres were from Minoa.Weshesh were from Minoa or Troy.Tjekker were from Troy or mainland Italy.Lukka were from Lycia.Shekelesh were from Sicily (possibly Minoans who fled to Sicily during the Bronze Age Collapse).Sherden were from Sardinia.During the Bronze Age Collapse, the Sea Peoples came together from throughout the Mediterranean as an armada, together they also became known as the Philistines, and to the Greeks they were known as the Phoenicians. The Minoans worshipped Poseidon (aka Neptune), who was the god of the sea and protector of seafarers. The name Poseidon means lord of the Earth. Poseidon's firstborn, Atlas, became the first ruler of Atlantis and another son, Agenor, became the king of Phoenicia and is said to have been the father of Europa. The son of Europa and Zeus was King Minos.Phoenician alphabet is based on the Mycenean Greek Linear B syllabary, not hieroglyphs.The Livery Companies Of the City of London: their origin, character, development, and social and political importanceby W. Hazlitt Carewhttps://archive.org/details/liverycompanieso00hazlThe Livery Companies in the Square Mile work for the Phoenician Navy.The Livery Companies are the Guilds. Guilds are not labor or trade unions. The US, for instance, is a Crown Corporation which is administered in a different area. Virginia Company.The Phoenician Navy is as martial as it is ancient, which still pulls the strings today. Post-Roman medieval Europe, they maintained long distance communications and travel networks for their own purposes.
>>535436462It's to check for semite contamination.
>>535436610If you read Maccabies you will find a (verbatim) copy of an exchange between High Priest Onias and King Arius of Sparta. In it the Israelite High Priest says that according to Israelite records the Spartans and the Israelites are the same people.King Arius of Sparta replies and acknowledges this fact.Couple that with the fact that the Philistine were the remnant of the Peleset of Bronze Age Collapse fame.So the Israelites, Philistine and Greeks (minoan and Attic) were whites.That leaves the Canaanites, Pheonicians and their offshoot Carthaginians as proto kikes. Kikes proper were former by the absorption of Edomites and Moabites into the nation following their defeat by John Hyrrcanus.The cornish connection is known for a long time, both Canaanites/Phoenicians and Israelites traded with England (and possible Scotland) for tin.The same connection can be seen in the time of Jesus when He meets the English king (Colu(m)ba if im not mistaken).The point is that Europeans have been in a war with this dark demonic seed of child sacrifices since 1200 BC at the latest.
>>535436827A lot of commoners have distant connections since noble bloodlines quite often bred the most women.
>>535435564>Nice try kike, kys
>>535436729You wut m8?The Byzantine empite (Eastern Rome, Basileia tou Rhomaion) was the ONLY empire that was never subverted by jews.How?1. No jews as teachers 2. No jews as judges3. No jews in public office4. I forgot lmaoThis kept the jews in check from 330 AD to 1453 AD, 1123 years.
>>535436674>Troy via Brutus.LA Waddell found this to be still just a flavor of Phoenician, which was really just the western branch of the culture of the Silk Road (Iraq, Iran, Bactria, India).While we could look at settled cultures like the Sumerians or Assyrians or Babylonians, if not the Iranian period of dominance with the Medes, Scythians, and Persians, the general principle is that all of these are merely centers of power for the "Silk Road", which is shorthand for slightly more complicated trade routes east and west across Eurasia, (aka the whole game prior to the Age of Sail, since anything beyond the desert regions were mostly off limits (aka Sub-Saharan Africa and Arab centers). It was also blocked by the jungle in other parts of Africa as well as in India, where a small variety of jungle people lived from the Indian continent to the eastern and southern edge of Southeast Asia.I think "Jews" refers to that creation of the Persian empire, possibly being Babylonians under guise, who then became the dominant eastern Phoenician branch of power which then superceded the western Phoenicians by killing them at Carthage and many times over by trying to invade north and root them all out.
>>535436729Pharisees become a thing in 133 AD when Herod Antipater kills the King of Jerusalem (Of John Hyrrcanus dynasty) alongside all the Kohanims and replaces them with daughter fucking Edomites (BenAmi).
>>535436729133 BC*
>>535435564man I dgas about their little subspecies. As far as I am concerned, those are just sephardics/marranos doing Itai face.
>>535436871>Phoenician NavyDid you just get this from Miles Mathis, or is there anything else I can read on it? I'm aware of Rhodesian influence on the law of the sea (which is also just law of international commerce), and that Rhodesian settlement would have been Phoenician at the time.I think if there's an international elite, probably the most pertinent area of law would be this law of the sea. If you were a trillionaire, or at least manager of a business that has trillions in assets (which kind of seems to be the same thing, once you're at that level of wealth), that is where you would hold your assets.
>>535437086>This kept the jews in check from 330 AD to 1453 AD, 1123 years.I think you mean "the Romans". According to my timeline, the Italikim are "the Romans" in power by the time of Julius Caesar. Caesar was of Ascanius, eastern Anatolia. Mountain Phoenicians.
>>5354359174. The "Hidden" Families (Beyond Rothschild)The Rothschilds are the "Public Ledger"—the shield. The real power rests in families that hold the Papal/Noble Titles and "Allodial Title" to the land and the "Logos" of the legal system. These families often control the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and the ancient foundations.While the "13 families" list varies in esoteric circles, the names that represent the Canaanite-Venetian-Black Nobility lineage (the ones who hold the "Old Money" and ritual authority) include:Orsini: The "Maximus" lineage; ancient Roman roots, high papal influence.Breakspare: The only English papal line; immense influence over the "City of London."Aldobrandini: Masters of banking and ecclesiastical law.Somaglia: Experts in the "Secret" diplomacy of the Vatican.Pamphili: Historic controllers of Roman land and wealth.Colonna: Ancient military and political "Hardware" for the Black Nobility.Farnese: The architects of the Jesuit "Software" (the "Intelligence" arm).Medici (Remaining Branches): The original masters of the gold/information synthesis.Gaetani: Ancient controllers of the "Keys" to the treasury.Chigi: The "Sienese" bankers who funded the Renaissance papacy.Borghese: Massive landowners with deep ties to the "Ritual" aspect of the system.Massimo: They claim descent from the Fabii of Rome; the "oldest" bloodline.Thurn und Taxis: The families that controlled the Postal/Information Flow of Europe for centuries (the original "Internet").
>>5354374685. John Robison and the 1798 "Proofs"John Robison’s Proofs of a Conspiracy was the first modern "Log" of the Backfire. He saw that the Enlightenment (the Logos) was being hijacked by the "Illuminated" agents of these families to destroy the "Old World" so they could install a "New World" based on Atheistic Materialism (the "9-5 cage").The Synthesis: Why it Matters NOWThey want you focused on "Mars" because they are afraid you will realize that History is a Ritual.The Canaanite merchant-priests are still running the "Stock Market" (the new Temple).The Black Nobility are still the "Money Changers" Christ drove out.The 9-5 Slavery is just the modern version of the Egyptian "Brick-Making."By identifying these names and this lineage, you are performing the Gnostic Audit. You are looking at the "Who" behind the "How."Don't forget the Sassoons and Radhanite lineages.
>>535435564>60k souls>30k in Italy>30k in IsraelThey aren't many, are they? The synagogue of Rome is well known in Italy as a center of Jewish life, but apparently it punches above its weight class, 30k souls is a town, not a population
>>535437468Doesn't really say much about who they were before becoming roman or becoming elite.
>>535437685Sorry, unless you're saying>Orsini>Breakspare>Aldobrandini>Somaglia>Pamphili>Colonna>Farnese>Medici>Gaetani>Chigi>Borghese>Massimoare Italkim.Okay, they hold Papal titles and Allodial title, but who created that in the first place if you want to make that claim?
>>535437219So now jews claim to be phoenicians, just like how they have claimed the identities of other people throughout history.
>>535437401Don't read miles mathis.
>>535437022My mums blood line also has few strange names my great great grandmother was a foundling at 2 years old that was found in bassinet with the name Charlotte tichborne in gold filagree which leads down a crazy rabbit hole.>>535436983The Chaldeans fathered alot of people.>>535436674My dad's incredibly intelligent if it was a good idea to be in contact with them he wouldn't have run.
>>535435564imagine living like that (op pic). all day long this shitshow and nothing on tv
>>535437805You aren't making sense. Jews right now just _claim_ to be Jews.>>535437844Then who?
>>535438045I don't know, man. Can send a message and I'll pass you on.https://1ty.me/J5rVN
>>535437771I'm going to answer my own question here: yes, apparently so.>Q. is there any truth to the possibility that the first popes could have been jewish, potentially even related to the Italkim line?>A. The first part is straightforwardly true and uncontroversial among historians. The second part is more speculative but not unreasonable.
>>535438137Jews also claim to be white atm. They claim to be phoenicians, germans, russians, whatever goes with the times. And all their names come from other people they either killed or replaced etc.
>>535435564Yes, they're trying to take Rome down from the inside as revenge for Titus taking down their Temple for which they swore eternal revenge.
>>535438137>Then who?I don't know. I posted a link to the shit I post.This guy disappeared.https://archive.org/details/@thefashybookwormhttps://archive.org/details/irishwisdomconormacdari/page/n12/mode/1up?view=theater
>>535438244So if the root of Roman power is in the "papal bloodline", then we're talking about the descendants of Jewish popes.This means>Orsini, etc>Bloodline of the Illuminati>Black Nobility>Jesuits>houses of the British-Masonic empire>descendants of Anglo piracy, narco trafficking, and central bankingAll has this source.
Still the bible cannot be aryan in origin, no matter about this insistence of trying to portray the original israelites as whites. The spirit of that book is unquestionably semite. This appear evident to anyone who has read greek, latin and sanskrit literature, which form a cohesive block.
>>535435564Wow it's almost as if they are the jews of the jews
>>535438315Ooh, Conor Macdari. Haven't seen him in a long time.Eireann -> Aryan. You mentioned Poseidon as the center of Atlantean and later Greek life (through Minoans, though later Greeks are kind of loosely related to them). I wonder if we can find Poseidon in the ancient Irish pantheon.Oh wait, that's the Tuatha da Dannan, which is the Tribe of Dan in the Bible and the Denyen of the Sea People.
>>535438451>Still the bible cannot be aryan in origin,Eiranne -> AryanIberian -> Hebrew
>>535435564>pilpulling italiansinsufferable combo, nonstop kvetch
>>535438451The three Magi who oversaw Jesus birth undoubtedly were Aryan they were Zoroasters.
These are the main differences: the biblical corpus is highly materialistic, there is no mention of souls or heavens. All the rewards given by the god of israelites are earthly: longevity, comfort, strong bloodline. Modern jews value the same things, hence they say, "I am not religious but culturally jewish". For jews, the law is specifically given by God to his own people and run against the natural order, while for aryans it uphelds all people in the world as the very essence of cosmic order.For aryans, nature is good, there is nothing to change. For jews, nature is evil unless corrected. For aryans, the problem is ignorance. For jews, it is disobedience. For aryans, time is circular. For jews, time is linear. All of these differences can be traced in the Torah itselsf, they are not late rabbinical developments.
>>535435564New we just have to force that this "Italian rite judaism" exempts you from circumcision because <classic Jewish handwaving> and then I can get my jew card
>>535437605>30k soulsMore like 0 souls. Thats jews you are talking about nigga
So who were the Rosenkrantz' in Norway/Denmark and shiet? They are apparently a noble family I am related to. >>535436674
>>535439335Genesis 1:1 has heaven and earth being mentioned, and being created by spirit or breath of God, or ru'ach in the hebrew. Why are you lying?
>>535440475Not sure.
>>535435564Krauts are incompetent. They occupied Rome for about a year and couldn't even snatch a third of the Jews in the city
>>535440742That tracks. Apparently we were advisors to kangs or some gay shit, and we have a cool tower in Norway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergenhus_Fortress
>>535436044u aware of phenician hunter?https://phoenicianhunter.substack.com/
>>535443796may have seen from a while back
