Politics is about compromise. Restore cannot win a GE. I wish they could, but they can't. All they will do is take votes that would have otherwise gone to Reform.
>>535457497Buy an ad Carl.
>believes in voting>thinks that if he waves flags with written things and call it a protest the elites will bow to his willWhy are people nowadays so idealistic and out of touch with reality?
>>535457595I am saying the opposite of what Carl says
>>535457668>yeah bro just violently take over your govt
>>535457497Democracy is bullshit.
>>535457790Why not? They're not going to listen to you or me.
>>535457790There is no way out, elites have always existed.It's just normal, some are meant to rule and exploit, others are meant to be cattle.
>>535457872Because it doesn't work and you go to prison
>>535458042>Because it doesn't work and you go to prisonThat's only if you fail.
>>535457497>Politics is about compromise.Not really, we got Brexit and killed the Tories by not compromising.>I wish they could I don't.I reject the framing of Reform as the practical choice vs Restore as the better party that "can't win". Reform need someone better than Farage as leader, and I'd unironically prefer 5 more years of Starmer over Restore.
>>535457497>Restore cannot win a GEFuck off kike I denounce the Talmud
>>535458012It's not about not having 'elites', it's about choosing the elites you are able to choose
>>535458181Restore are pro-Israel thoughbeit
>>535458126Any recent examples of it working in a OECD-type country?
>>535458175>Not really, we got Brexit and killed the Tories by not compromising.That was a single issue referendum that was not deiced by first past the post
>>535457790It worked for your ancestors. I don't know what it is about the religion of democracy that makes everyone think it is inevitable and unassailable. There are democracies that have been overthrown in your lifetime. If they don't serve you, the electorate, and instead serve foreigners, then that democracy's gotta go because it's broken.
>>535458203We are cattle. Only elites choose elites.
>>535458311And the referendum only happened because of UKIP threatening to topple the tories, and the result was only respected because of intense political pressure and election results.
>>535457751Buy an ad Nigel
>>535458360>There are democracies that have been overthrown in your lifetimeAny recent examples of it working in a OECD-type country?
>>535457497>All they will do is take votes that would have otherwise gone to Reform.no splitALL of the voteand then some more ppl whove previously been too disenfranchised to voteits trump in 2016, bong edition. the polls will say 99% shillary to win, but thats just because they forgot to count allllllll the other lads whove never voted at all
>>535458248No because most of the men with the balls to do it were killed off in WWII.Believing in voting is a complete waste of your time however.
>>535458512>and then some more ppl whove previously been too disenfranchised to voteI see Restore saying this, but nothing to back it up. Who says there are millions of people who would vote, but choose not to? and who says those people would vote Restore if they did choose to vote? Most non-voters are either retards who would never vote because they're too clueless, or autistically informed people who have too specific wants, and no party is a correct fit for them
>>535458512>its trump in 2016, bong edition. the polls will say 99% shillary to win, but thats just because they forgot to count allllllll the other lads whove never voted at allWe already had that moment before you with Brexit. And unlike electing a corrupt populist, Brexit was a rational policy position that just happened to be against the interests of the unaccountable parts of the government.
>>535458360Faggots like him will waste their time in terms of democracy and call you a "fedposter" if you dare to suggest real think yet we don't even have a federal system. I've had British users call me that on certain Discord servers, I obviously left and stopped engaging with those types years ago.All democracy does is let Jews have control while shifting to the blame to us.It's always:>YOU voted for this!>This is YOUR fault!>YOU should have voted for someone else then!I don't believe in it. I don't want it. This entire system is fucked and if you still want to play this stupid game then you're a fucking retard.
Reform is just tories, their policies are basically indistinguishable.
The way a republic has always been meant to work is decisions by the leading citizens. I am no historical expert, but I believe in the UK that was originally the lords. In ancient Greece, landowning males. Same in Rome and revolutionary America. Foreigners will never vote for their own deportation. That is 20% of the electorate. Women are averse to violence and also wrongthink. 40% of the electorate. Of the white men who remain, 10% are compromised by their friendships with nonwhites. 10% are druggies and socialists. 10% are senile and are terrified of tripping and breaking a joint. Of the 10% of white men that are competent and able and noncompromised, 5% just got out of (((education))) and are full of retarded propaganda. So these numbers are arbitrary of course. They would be much worse for my country. So let us say that 5% of the electorate are white men who are not race traitors, commies, boomers, or brainwashed teenagers.
>>535458654I did have a look at the list and restore wasn't running in my area anyway.
>>535458248>OECD-type countryAny examples of mass uprising in said countries :)>closest thing might be farmers-France & truckers-Canada>literally 0.0001% of the population
>>535457497>Politics is about compromisemy patriotism died nearly a decade ago so idgafI'm either voting Restore or staying home
>>535459007It's said that you only need 3% of the population for a successful rebellion. The reality is that most people are sheep and will go along with whoever has the monopoly of violence. If you are able to replace the government of that position in areas then people will bow to you.
>>535457497I will be VERY impressed if Reform actually solves the many problems plaguing the UK.
>>535459123They won't lol, it's just Tories in Teal.
>>535458654its mostly blowing smoke up their own arseshttps://elections.norfolk.gov.uk/textresults.aspxshows the turn out rates for each ward in norfolk they are all similar. I have heard them saying oh its almost 50% that's well above the usual 35% but its like that in every ward
>>535457497then don't vote, or vote for MRL, or draw a middle finger on the ballot, or run yourself, they don't give a fuck about us. democracy is a lie.
>>535459249A lot of them are still in the 30-40% range. Some haven't released the turnout rates at all which tells me they are probably quite low.
>>535459364By spoiling your ballot you are still participating and giving legitimacy to this system. The winning move is to not play.
>>535457790yes>>535458042burn them down retard, they can't put you in a prison that doesn't existassuming the public ever decides to finally rise up (lol)
>>535459481i tried not playing alreadyeither you people fucking wake up and fix shit this time or I AM leaving. i refuse to live like this.
>>535459398true, there are a few even below 30 but I've seen lowe talking to sargoy making out that the gyfirst areas where unique in having a higher than average turn out when they are not at all, its high even in areas they didn’t stand and reform or even the lib dems of all people won.
>>535459481I think what you should do is pull a Thomas Sewell and vote for a literal nazi party. Right now all the good men are coping by trying to vote for a party that they think will get enough widespread support to have a shot. That will never work. Instead, build the armored core. That can then take over the police, military etc. A few good men is better than a mob that doesn't have any idea what it's doing.
Internet politics has a 5 to 10 year time frame. You first see it on social media and youtube. In 5 to 10 years it manifests in the real world. Reform will be first but restore will follow.
>>535459841not good enoughi'm not waiting another decade for the turn around and nor is this country.i'm sick to death of people rationalizing the madness.
>>535459007>closest thing might be farmers-France & truckers-Canadathey had their banks frozen and did not overthrow the govt at all
>>535459841>Reform will be first but restore will follow.we don't have time to wait.
>>535457595https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVrTEwdePf8
>>535457790It worked for the colonies against (you) britfaggot
>>535457497The fact they're not even waiting for a reform government, and seeing if it will fail, tells me restore supporters are brought and used by mi5 as a vote splitting front
>>535462291Try it today tough guy
I'll vote Restore if I can, or I'll spoil the ballotNot voting for half measures
>>535457790>>535457668there is an option C which is talking to the people you disagree withit's why the rhetoric has been escalating on both sides. Both sides have a problem where they only get fed the most extremist shit from either side with the message of >"they want to kill you, so vote for us to have absolute power because dying is worse"
>>535457497>le immigrant grifter manthe only based one was callum and he left them as they were grifting faggots who didnt do anything productive .
>>535459995>just 5 more years broit's another trick of (((democracy))), making you wait until your next voting ritual, and when nothing changes, you have to wait again, before you know it you're an old man and things have only continued to get worse
>>535462447>wait and see, a bunch of ex tories and labour MPs along with an unhealth dose of browns will fix everything caused by themThe fact that you believe this tells me that you are a moron.
>>535457497Democracy is a meme. It has always been a meme.Money and power have always been the characteristics that enabled centralized governance to occur.People with money and resources get to tell with fewer resources where to be, what to do, and how to behave in exchange for a negotiated share of those resources.Nothing else is determinative of the right to rule, not brute force, not divine right, not family name. Absolutely nothing.In the modern world, with all of the mechanisms that would enable transparent incentive structures and free exchange of resources and information, there is no reason that centralized government should even exist.It doesn't serve any function that truly free markets already wouldn't.>Look for a job>Find a job>Examine you contract>Accept a pay rate>Do your job>Get rewarded>You job disappears? Simply find another job>Your boss fails to pay you? Simply stop showing up>A company treats it employees and customers fairly and is above board? Praise them.>A company treats its employees and customers dishonestly and engages in practices that are damaging to its locales and to society? Harm them.Whenever and wherever government exists, all it ever does on a net basis is use unearned resources to occlude reciprocity and accountability between businesses and individual citizens.Wherever a problem exists, government faces constant incentive not to solve it, but to make it larger and more complex, so that it continue to grow in scope and in scale.The whole idea of government is obsolete and positively counterproductive in the modern world.
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>>535457497>I just need one more VOOT my guy please just come on and heckin VOOT for the EX-TORY, EX-BANKER elite dick head number 8374 I'm telling you we're winning lads we're winning you just need to VOOT come on and VOOT WHY AREN'T YOU VOOTING?!
>>535457497> All they will do is take votes that would have otherwise gone to Reform.All Reform has to do is move to the right, and Restore will have no reason to exist.
>>535465112Yeah but he wants mass deportations and to make personal gun ownership legal again so that pretty much makes up for it.
>>535464928Great fucking post, me.As usual.
>>535457497Good. You're waking up. Lesser-of-two-evils people are retards.
>>535465112>it's afraid
>>535457497>Politics is about compromiseFag>Restore cannot win a GENot with that attitude>All they will do is take votes that would have otherwise gone to Reform.No one wants the Tories in power again. People would only vote for them as the least worst option.
>>535457790>tf, tpThe government excels at violence, its all they really understand.
>>535457497>gets replaced because politics is about compromisecompromise for (You), none for the managerial class>Reformmore of the same
>>535465436Yes mate, I'm sure this time the ex-Tory ex-Banker who says he's going to do all the things you want is actually going to do all the things you want, and not rug pull you for the hundredth time, you stupid fucking idiot retard.>>535466202Who do you think is afraid of these mongs?
>>535457841it is bullshit democracy or communism. choose wiselyyou cannot possibly think you can escape lol, what the fuck is the matter with pleb they started getting high on their own farts and get depressed when they face reality. what the fuck were you realistically expecting? that it would somehow "work"? lmao
>>535464928I said great fucking post, me.As usual.>>535469332>>535469258>>535466356
>>535469332You sound very upset. It's almost like you know Restore is going to win, And that terrifies bennimongs like yourself.
>>535469614>It must be (((CAPITALISM))) or (((COMMUNISM)))!False dilemma. It doesn't have top be either of those.
>>535457497still voting restore though because millions must go
>>535470055No politician is going to make that happen.
>>535469996that's all you're allowed to debate about.
>>535470248this.
