which country can legitly say "we wuz romanz"
>>535496499Italy.
>>535496499is this a trick question?the light green provinces in this map
>>535496499USA
Nobody. Rome is long dead.
>>535496499turkey.
>>535496499Italy to some extent.We were also Longobards and sheit.
I have a very well preserved Roman settlement but 200m from my house and am going to ignore the fact my parents moved here so that I may conveniently claim that they were my ancestors.Sometimes I just go to the field where the site was discovered and speak latin in the hope the spirits might guide me in life.
>>535496499Catalunya. Salut i força al canut, para fajar la paja.
>>535496499I dunno, which country is still target of the wrath of the hebrews as if their temple was burned down just yesterday?
Italy and Greece
I guess there really isnt any right now, maybe italy if you want to give it to someone>byzantines lost to ottomans who were scattered and died>russian empire as 'third rome' died off from commies>London (not Britain, just London) was never conquered as Londinium, but calling it a country is a reach>HRE (pope said they transferred the title) dissolved, and so did Austria Hungary.>Donation of Constantine is fake, so not the Papacy
>>535496499Romania—duh, hello
Italy first but really all of southern europe, parts of central europe that are catholic. I don't see how this matters?
>>535496499North Italy.
The red areas in this map.
>>535496874That's correct.
United Kingdom is the only country that carried Rome's legacy
>>535496499Us (Italy)
>>535496849Oh i forgot the most funny one, San Marino>founded in 301 AD by a Christian stonemason fleeing Roman persecution>the world's oldest surviving sovereign state and constitutional republic>its governing structure is heavily copied from the Roman Republic. Instead of a president, they are ruled by two Captain Regents, who serve simultaneous six-month terms—mirroring the exact system of the two Roman ConsulsOkay, fine ill change my answer. San Marino is probably the most 'we wuz romanz' and still be legit
Roma (gypsies)
Wales with the Roman-CeltsAnd uhmmmm idk who else Anglo-Saxons sort of decimated them and never went away
>>535496499Albania
>>535497098>flagYou're not in Italy, anon.
>>535496499There is actually a lot of debate with interesting points. I'll give a few:Italy - Obvious reasonsGreece - They were 'romans'. The byzantine distinction came after to differentiate both parts, but for centuries they were Rome. Since they lasted more, the "continuity" claim is strong.Turkey - While I strongly dislike them, they could get the conquest claim. They conquered Rome (or Constantinople), and for a while, the sultanate of Rum existed. Still, fuck this claim.Russia - Blood claim. At the fall of Constantinople, the Tsar Ivan III (the Great) was married to Sophia Palaiologina, the niece of the last Byzantine Emperor. So, you get the idea. Still, pretty dubious. France - In the middle ages, the Holy Roman Empire could arguably be seen as a "successor" to the western Roman empire. Since Napoleon destroyed that nation, France holds a, in my opinion, dubious conquest claim.Spain - Legal claim. In 1502, the last titular Byzantine claimant did give his imperial titles to the Spanish monarchs, Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. After Constantinople fell, the imperial line continued through the Emperor's nephew, Andreas Palaiologos. Impoverished and without an army, Andreas eventually willed his rights and imperial titles (which included the Byzantine crown) to Ferdinand and Isabella in June 1502.This makes the current king of Spain heir to the title of Emperor. There are others, but his is the strongest. Plus he is still royalty and other emperors did come from Hispania.With this, I'd say the strongest claims could be in Italy, Greece and Spain.
>>535497419adding to your france argument because it is very interesting>Andreas Palaiologos sold the imperial title to King Charles VIII of France in 1494>The deal with France was conditional: Charles VIII was supposed to launch a crusade, conquer the Peloponnese (Morea), and hand it over to Andreas>Charles VIII died in 1498 without fulfilling the bargain>Andreas claimed the deal was void and later willed it to Spain>French kings completely disagreed; argued they bought it fair and square and kept claiming to be the Emperors of Constantinople until 1566, when King Charles IX finally let the claim drop due to lack of useSome bit of trivia for you nerds
The Netherlands!!!!!!!
>>535496499Northern Italy
>>535496499We wuz românsclose enough
Mexico
>>535496499But honestly, if kikes can pretend they're from the levant and get a country in there, half of europe can pretend they're romans and restart the empire, it's fair game.
>>535496605still seething for loosing to Rome?
>>535496499> European RussiaNo such thing.There is no geographical border between "Europe" and "Siberia". Historically Aryan tribes lived equally across Eurasia.
>>535496499https://youtube.com/shorts/lcYeO5BtKBQ
The roman empire doomed Europe forever. I consider myself etruscan
>>535496499>>535496513>>535496522>>535496536Romania
moscow is unironically considered the third rome
>>535496499not Romania
>>535496499Finland is the ony legitimate heir to the Roman EmpireShitalians are gay larpers and are more african than european now
>>535496966> Literally excludes Rome Is this a joke?
You need to be 18 to post in this board.Roman fetishism is for brown retards and 13 years old.
>>535496499Greece
>>535496499macedonians can for example say they wuz bulgarian, its the same shit
Only Romania is actually saying it, still having rome in the name
Finland
>>535496499Any nation in Europe that is of the Romance tradition, that is to say France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Romania.
>>535496499Germans were the better Romans
>>535496499Poland. It goes Rome -> Constantinople -> Moscow -> Warsaw (from Polish-Soviet War)
>>535496499ROMANIANSit's in the name
>italylevant admixutre>spainnorth african admixutre
>>535499380How did it doomed Europe?
>>535496499You can find their traces almost everywhere in europe. Genetically, probably nowhere.
>>535496499south europe and north africa are closer to romans than germans or nordics or even anglos, it's funny seeing other europeans fantasizing about muh romans when they had nothing to do with it to start with
>>535501510The romans had many cities in germany.
>>535501597>>535501510sure thing, uncultured jeet
>>535501597didn't mean to quote you
>>535496499The Vatican. I say this as a fervent anti-catholic. Italy doesn’t even speak “Roman” (Latin), they speak Etruscan.
>>535501597Only in a small part of what is considered Greater Germany, aka the Rhineland. The Canuck is right though, actual Romans from Rome were closer to other Wogs than Nords.
>>535501597>>535501612yeah using you as slaves only
>>535501648>Italy doesn’t even speak “Roman” (Latin), they speak Etruscan.Is this bait or are you just retarded?
>>535501668> Tuscan, especially its Florentine variety, formed the basis for establishing Standard Italian. Due mostly to the prestige of the works by Dante Alighieri, Petrarch, Giovanni Boccaccio, Niccolò Machiavelli, and Francesco Guicciardini, the Tuscan-derived elaboration became the primary language of culture throughout Italy,[1] and later the official language of all of the historic Italian states and then of the Kingdom of Italy when it was formed.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuscan_dialects
>>535501663They went everywhere as conquerors. What's your point?
>>535501652
>>535501663the italians worshipped germans and made us literal kings and queens.
>>535501693You do understand Tuscan is a just one of ALL Italian dialects that are descended from Vulgar Latin? Actual Tuscan died when the Romans conquered them.
>>535496499Finland is the heir to the titles of Rome.
>>535501728So the Rhineland, Swabia and Bavaria? Aka the inferior parts of Greater Germany. Glory to Brandenburg, Pomerania and Schleswig-Holstein and Lower Saxony.
>>535501668>>535501693Another fun fact is that England adopted its flag from the Republic of Genoa in Tuscany. It was originally an inverted Holy Roman war flag that was used as a generic medieval banner in many catholic states. It is believed Henry II took the Genoese banner during the third crusade.
>>535501814How is the Rhineland or Bavaria inferior? They are the only real Germans to meOssis are slavic subhumans
>>535501775You do realise that most Latin dialects in Italy were mutually unintelligible?
>>535501757That's understandable. The subjugation of the celts was so easy, while they repeatedly met their match with the germanic tribes.
>>535496732Ta tia rossega kikos amb la figa
>>535496513>>535496522>>535496536Look at Italians today and compare to Roman statues. No much Roman left there.
>>535501861For all the good it has done it.
>>535501693>>535501835The tuscan dialect has nothing to do with Etruscan. Florence wasn't even an Etruscan city but founded by the Romans.. Genoa was not inhabited by Etruscans but Ligures and never was part of Tuscany.You're just spouting nonsense.
>>535496499greece
>>535501855I'm just bias cause my forefathers are from those regions, also calling East Germans Slavs is a cope. Consult picrel and one will see that the regions I mentioned are superior.
>>535502026cope is what you are doing, go learn some european history
>>535501997Apologies, I always confuse Tuscans and Etruscans, but my core point still stands
>>535501835Yeah England's flag is rather plain, I think picrel is better. The white dragon is supposed to represent Anglo-Saxons in contrast to the Red Dragon (seen in Welsh flag), which represents the Brythonic peoples.
>>535501861So? Does not change that fact that all Italian dialects in addition with Spanish, Portugese, French and Romanian Romance dialects are all descended from the Latin spoken by the Romans.
>>535496499Isn't it that romans would say we wuz greeks. And greeks would say wy wiene keningen.
>>535502026There's nothing wrong with being prussian. I like prussia very much.
>>535502084Ok but what is even that, are you referring to the medieval polity of Marquisate of Etruria->Republic of Florence->Duchy of Florence->Granduchy of Tuscany?What relevance does it have to Roman successors or the modern Italian state"Tuscans" aren't even an homogeneous people today
>>535502063Eastern Europe was Germanic prior to Slavs infesting the place up. Furthermore, East Germany became German via conquest and colonization (not assimilation), this is why East Germans are genetically closer to other Germans instead of Slavs. In addition, the regions of Brandenburg and what not unified Germany and are still the cultural stereotype of what's deemed "German". What did Bavaria and Swabia ever contribute other than Oktoberfest and Cars huh?!
>>535502227Cheers bro, I also love Prussia. Unfortunately many of the places some of my ancestors came from are now Polish.
>>535502273>What did Bavaria and Swabia ever contribute other than Oktoberfest and Cars huh?!They were always the poorhouses of germany until the division of germany benefited them.
>>535496499Finland
>>535502273eastern europe was trzciniec-like. trzciniec was the closest to modern estonians. germanic was unetice culture - bohemia. to emerge slavs just add dacian/thracian admixture to trzciniec genetic profile + some scythian are you have a slavic profile
>>535502273not to mention austrians are not so germanic as they larp to. they have a lot of balto-slavic drift (more than swedes which have a lot of baltic admixture)
>>535502330Exactly, Bavaria was literally a Catholic backwater until the 60s.
>>535502361saxon were living in bohemia region
>>535499431No ur Dacian . Retard .
>>535502153But only the Pope speaks original Latin
>>535502388I'm not really a genetic purist, as long as one has a German paternal line with steppe-heavy ancestry, and some farmer and WHG ancestry than they are German in my book.
>>535496499I found a Silver roman coin in my grangran's garden while planting potatoes. Does that count us in? Plenty of Roman settlements and structures in my area too.
>>535502232Make yourself scarce, you barking Dago Wop
Greece has been more years under Roman rule than anyone else. Italians are Barbaro-Goth/Langobard rape babies. Especially North Italians, those guys are throroughly bleached by Big Germanic Cock.
>>535502471I guess but why would that be your standard for being Roman? Languages are going to change over the course of 2000 years. I say what matters is descent and all of the Romance dialect continuum are directly continuous with Vulgar Latin, you catch my drift?
>>535496499We killed the Roman Empire
>>535502533No not really, the Germanic migrations didn't really effect Southern Europe genetically. The only real place that got changed were the British Isles but I might be forgetting a region or two.
>>535502590Be proud of our forefathers!!!
>>535502601Both Ostrogoths and Langobards settled into the Italian Peninsula permanently.
>>535502664Ostrogoths all over, Langobards in the north and middle.
>>535502664Yeah but there wasn't many in comparison to the local populace, they only really made a dent in the elites while barely effecting the general populace.
>>535502617The next Empire will fall to german might soon enough !!!>>535502664You mean the non-shitty parts of Italy.
