>>535499716
Free healthcare is only good in a ethnically homogenous country. I refuse to subsidize niggers more than I already do.

>>535499716
I think we should send Russia everything they need to kill every last eurotranny

>>535499744
Your refusal is invalid

>>535499716
>fewer doctors
>worse services
>longer wait times
>doctors refuse to treat you unless you're bleeding out or have a tumor
American friend has to bring pain meds from the US for a chronic condition that he got because doctors ignored it during the acute stage
I myself got severe pnemonia because they refused to treat it early
Dental is insanely expensive because it isn't included

europeans are all skinny faggots that eat fish and drink wine. europe is economically collapsing right now. americans will implode any "free" healthcare system. they are fat, violent and fucking stupid, impossible

>>535499716
Isn't it great to be American? Everyone seethes about us 24/7.

>>535499716
Americans actually believe they pay low taxes but they don't.

>>535499716
JFK and Reagan convinced Americans forever that if you pay taxes and get something in return that's communism.

>>535499716
this is truly the height of intellectual discourse

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>>535499843
None of that would be a problem if you hadn't imported 2 million shitskins none of which were the engineers and doctors that jews said they would be, or if there are some pajeet docs in there they are all incompetent scammers that cheater their way to a degree.

Maybe you're too young to remember but healthcare worked absolutely well here before the shitskins came. There was zero problems, it all ran smoothly. Wait times were low to non-existent, and the whole system was extremely cost-effective. Drugs are cheap because the government negotiates with the drug manufacturers at the nation size scale, which company can sell it cheapest get the deal.

Also was it always the case that dental wasn't included in Sweden or just recently because of the healthcare system cracking under shitskin weight? Dental is included here but they are indeed flashing of removing it now, because of too many shitskins which are incredibly expensive because they cost more than the natives yet contribute from nothing to very little.

In fact there is this curious stat that somehow migrants use FIVE TIMES more healthcare than the native Whites and I haven't figured out why and the leftist media (owned by swedish jews) obviously doesn't want to explore it. Is it because the shitskins have all sorts of expensive genetic jungle diseases like sickle cell disease which Whites don't, or are they just that dysgenic overall?
Anecdotally I've also confirmed this, in my 8% non-White town, the most non-Whites I ever saw here in one place is when I went to get some bloodwork done at the local hospital. The customers I saw was literally 90% of non-Whites of all ages, and the rest 10% of elderly Whites, and I saw no people of my age except as workers of course.

>>535499716
>pays 15K a year in extra taxes
>thinks healthcare is free

>>535499716
Were two obese as a country to have free healthcare also, the drug problem also heart disease, liver cancers our assholes are falling out

>>535499716
It just is because trump and the Republicans says so

>>535499989
Well they do compared to us, because they have lower consumption taxes in things like gasoline and no VAT, although lot of states have state tax.
It is true though that high-tax states like California they are paying about the same as we do, and lower income households actually pay relatively more as the progression is quite steep here which makes low income pay very little tax.

Most disturbingly though Americans pay more taxes for healthcare than any European country besides France, but they simply receive none of it. Yes, all the so-called "free" healthcare countries, Americans are paying more. Its insane to me that Americans don't know this.

The reason is that the whole healthcare system has so many jews stealing, that the healthcare costs that are paid by state which is medicare/etc. programs for elderly and non-Whites, asylum seekers and other niggers, they get paid through theft that is they don't pay the doctors directly like in single-payer system but they pay for-profit hospitals and all the jews who take the profit from it but do none of the work. There are like 5 steps between the payer and the doctor all different levels of jews that steal from the transaction.
This is why the healthcare the White taxpayers pay for some of the people but not themselves is so expensive that they already pay more than anywhere (except France) and then on TOP of that they pay medical insurance and even that is not enough you still need to pay co-pay. And good luck if your insurance isn't good enough to cover your cancer or whatever you're paying it until you're as cash poor as the niggers that get free healthcare.

>>535500396
This lol, Healthcare is never free

Go over there:
>>535500372

>>535500007
The problem has always been what that "something" you get in return is, which is pretty much always gay faggot garbage that doesn't work and insults your culture.

>>535500570
Americans don't pay 40-50% of their income to taxes like you. Stop lying

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>>535500570
The reason is unequivocally jews. When you pay the insurance the insurance jew takes its cut, and the insurance corps jewish lawyers. It then pays a jewish "health management organization" and its profits and jewish lawyers, which then pays the hospital which is yet another for-profit entity with jewish shareholders and jewish lawyers. Then the hospital pays the doctor which is some incompetent pajeet that cheated his way to a degree, good luck not getting infection and dying, and of course the jeet also has a jewish lawyer and jewish insurance to cover malpractice fees who also needs to be paid.
There are so many jews that are neither the patient or the doctor that it's insane.
In fact its hard to even imagine a more jewish system than healthcare.
Well maybe rentiering, the system where jews import nonwhites who not only push rents up but also get housed on jewish subsidized housing where the taxpayer pays the nonwhites rent check to the jew. Literally paying for their own replacement and the destruction of their homes.

>>535499716
Because free healthcare means americans will survive and the world needs more dead americans.

>>535499716
America has free healthcare, lots of free healthcare. Not for young people because that would turn them communist, but older folks have it

>>535499716
>it isn't free
>lower incentive for doctors because the middlemen still want their fortunes and so the doctors' salries are the first cuts
>lower standard of care due to above
>higher access means more dipshits go to the doctor for basic shit they can fix at home, overburdening the system
>death panels
>just allowing the government the ability to steal money because, lol, free healthcare
Yeah, privatized healthcare is shit, but it's arguably due to regulation. Competition is destroyed, regulators refuse to hold insurance companies to account, so I don't understand how giving the government more money and more power will magically fix the issue.

>>535499716
I don't want to pay for your insulin because you chose to be fat.

>>535500652
Why are you replying to yourself?

>>535499716
American healthcare is PRIVATE for PROFIT.
and owned by capitalists and oligarchs.
>like Red Cross Vatican jesuits who own hospitals.

Private for Profit healthcare is the WORST POSSIBLE CASE.

However we can't MATHEMATICALLY make it free.
US collects $5 trillion/ year in taxes,
and cost of healthcare is $7 trillion.
US will immediately go bankrupt tomorrow if we make healthcare free.
So.
We hired Trump, who is negotiating with drug companies
>that are US gov approved/ authorized monopolies
to decrease drug prices to 1/10 of current monopoly prices.
>he's doing it successfully
In a private for profit healthcare, monopolistically high drug prices is one of the biggest problems.

>>535500658
Free healthcare will mean white Americans being taxed more to support our enormous growing hoard of brown people. Everyone forgets how much more brown the US is and how worthless they are. Fuck free healthcare, because who pays for it? I do. It’s just higher taxes on fucking me and everyone else gets a free ride as usual. That’s the real reason we don’t have it yet.

>>535500658
Good news anon, iatrogenic death is the leading cause of dead Americans. They also vax and mutilate the fuck outta babby golems

>>535500626
For income of 70K USD / 60K EUR, in California you pay 30.9% tax, while in Finland you pay 32.6% tax. Its quite similar.

>https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator/California-70000
>https://www.veronmaksajat.fi/tutkimus-ja-tilastot/tuloverot/palkansaajan-veroprosentit/

And once again as I said Americans spend the most of tax dollars in healthcare per capita in the world only behind France. I cba to dig out the actual dollar numbers you can go dig in the archives or google if you wish

I'm not saying the taxes shouldn't be lower but there are a lot of misconceptions about everything. Like that Americans don't pay taxes for healthcare when they absolutely do and a shit ton of them too, or that Europe has exceptionally high taxes compared to America.

>>535499744
Don't you already do it anyway?

>>535500837
America has the highest healthcare expenditure and the worst health outcomes. I wish I could give them more money to spend

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>>535500837
There is a difference though when it comes to feeding your niggers and how much of it you need to tax, and it all has to do with the dollar.

Due to USD being reserve currency the entire world has subsidized American kikes and niggers because the reserve currency status creates artificial demand for the dollar inflating its value past to American exports, meaning USA gets actual tangible goods while giving worthless paper in return.
America exports goods and services for 2000 billion dollars and imports 3200 billion dollars worth of goods and services. The difference is made up by printing dollars. If the dollar drops out of use by 3rd parties, America will have to export an additional 1200 billion worth of goods and services to be able to sustain its import levels, which it will not be able to.

If the world gets tired of having USA inflation exported to them and feeding your niggers and kikes, and moves away from USD, the amount of dollars you print would instantly send you to Zimbabwe levels of inflation it would be a total collapse.
I'm not saying that USA doesn't have the bones as a territory to be a big producer because it certainly does, but the problem is that you aren't the vision of a White Nation the Founding Fathers wanted and codified into law, with your amount of useless eater browns that simply isn't happening, you can't just magick a 200% production increase out of thin air

If America couldn't leverage the USD status to sustain its nigger levels it would have to have like 95% taxes and it still wouldn't be enough considering that the only people who are actually net tax payers, the Whites, they are at 50% of pop in USA and going lower all the time.

The dire problem in Europe we dont have reserve currency status to leverage so now that we're importing niggers and shitskins, we only have two choices either jack up taxes to the moon, or cut literally everything.

>>535500711
>How giving money to the one that regulates regulate more........

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>>535499716
Pays for trannyism in israel

>>535500837
That link says 25% tax and you're forgetting deductions and tax returns, which makes the effective tax about 15%. Stop fucking lying. I was born in California

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>>535500750
I didn't "reply" to my own message, I continued as it wouldn't fit in one message. Are you brown or first day on 4chan or both?

>>535500956
Do you think anyone read your wall of text? Retard, get to the fucking point. Why would anyone listen to you about a country you don't even live in? Fucking idiot

>>535499716
Because is not free, retard

>>535499744
You subsidize shit for niggers twice with your system, while your taxes also pay for universal healthcare in Israel.
Universal healthcare only taxes you once.
You country worships niggers and gives unlimited gibs to them, your regular taxes pay that. Niggers use those free money to acquire healthcare privately from companies you also pay for healthcare separately, sharing your money with niggers when they need healthcare, and because you worship niggers, they get their healthcare paid for more than whites.
A universal healthcare system will also make sure that when its your turn, you get it paid for without questions, instead of being jewed out of the money you paid, in favour of niggers.

>>535499744
You already do, exclusively. This would simply include white people. But you hate white people and love kikes so it makes sense to be against that

>>535499716
I don't want to pay for MORE niggers to have health care than I ALREADY AM

>>535499716
I have a family member that just got hip replacement for $5k seems pretty fair to me

>>535501019
What if you die waiting for your turn?

>>535499880
>economically collapsing right now
fake and gay
Even with paying for jewkraine's war, europe is still able to stay afloat, attempt to separate industrially from the US and still doesn't face the same retarded rate of inflation as the US does.
Arguably, there is no economy more stable in the western world than the EU.

>>535500984
I read the finns posts. Kys nigger

>>535499716
>free
>USA (government and business) pays for the majority of the worlds drug research and development
>countries in the EU won't pay high drug prices so they just pass the cost on to the USA
>but no no it would totally work if the USA was also "free" healthcare
Yeah I'm not going to even get into trying to force doctors to work and that whole scam this is just absurdist thinking from fantasy novels.

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>>535500762
Yeah exactly what I was talking about here >>535500346 of negotiating. As a single person you have no leverage of the drug company but if the entire nation negotiates on your behalf well thats a shit ton of leverage. And especially country of the size of USA has even more leverage than something like Finland. It makes perfect sense, except for the pharma jew of course which is why it wasnt done before.
Trump actually did quite a smart quick fix that they didnt even need to set up any negotiating govt agency that European countries have had for decades, but they simply make the drug manufacturer give the cheapest price they give to a Western country. Essentially making other people do the negotiating and then taking the same price, doing none of the work yet getting the benefit. It could be described as parasitic sure but I mean cmon, he's donny, he has dealed with jews and has a jewish outlook on everything, and at least for this one case he actually did something in a parasitic way that was actually good for Americans.

But the drug prices are just a small piece of the puzzle, as explained earlier there is a whole jewish for-profit machine that has ballooned to insane heights built around the healthcare industry.

And then where there is shitskins, there is mass fraud. That is one side of the whole thing is that shitskins are defrauding the fed and state paid healthcare systems like medicare / medical en-masse. Setting up fake medical services that never happened, like these fake Armenian hospices which Nick Shirley investigated, then they buy mercedes maybaches and BMW M8s and los angeles megamansions with the taxpayer money
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegwwB4RHgA

But of course this is a thing that will never stop until the jews are dead. Because the shitskins and their fraud wont be deported and the White ethnostate vision of the Founding Fathers brought back as long as jews live.

>>535501133
But you responded to me. Lmao

>>535501116
Jewish lies.
State hospitals work fast enough, and most private clinics have contracts with the state to subsidize money for their services from the same universal healthcare system.
You die waiting your turn only if you're retarded.

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>>535501080
>I don't want to pay for MORE niggers to have health care than I ALREADY AM
This is actually an extremely valid point.

There is a possibility to done everything smart that would result in paying less tax but also receiving "free" quality healthcare. But once again that is not the world we live in because jews won WWII.
If you could just kill the jews and send the niggers away, then all the healthcare that Whites pay now to pay for niggers could be used to pay for themselves and all the jewish medical insurance companies well nobody would need to pay those either as the jews would be dead. Dead jews can't push for multiculturalism or steal money, only alive jews do that.

If America went into single-payer model it is a guarantee that the jewish medical profiteers and their incompetent pajeet malpracticers would just build the new system for them to fleece even more of the money than they already do.
So to fix any system you start by killing the jews otherwise you open yourself up for even more jewery.

>>535501116
kek, private healthcare could be considered even worse
How many americans die every year because they are refused the healthcare they paid for?
They literally had an assassination of a healthcare CEO because of this.

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>>535501159
You seriously don't understand how 4chan works. So fucking tiresome having to see you browns here shitting up threads. Get the fuck back to molesting your sister or robbing the local convenience store or what ever the fuck you browns do and let White people talk.

>>535501246
in this magic world of yours who would pay for the research and development of new drugs?
The USA covers the burden for the entire planet basically at this current moment. System is fucked but there is no "free" healthcare happening in the USA if you want to actually have things come out other than experimental gene therapy fun time surprise injections.

>>535501246
>>535501264
I bet neither one of you had ever been to the US. Fucking weirdos obsessed with another country when they both live in shit holes themselves. We have states with more people than your entire population, but you dumbfucks think your system can just magically be extrapolated to function in ours. Clearly your education system sucks ass

>>535501282
Lmao, I'm far whiter than you, you half asiatic mongrel. We have cities with more people than your whole country. Go ferment some fish and shut the fuck up about a country you've never been to

>>535500626
>>535500605
>>535500570
In America I paid 34% total taxes if you add everything together including car tax and such.
$57,000 tax burden in 2013, the last year I worked in America.
In Europe I pay like 27% and I get free childcare for my kids, free healthcare, free university government paid maternity leave for my wife, and I pay almost no property tax on my 6 bedroom 4200 square foot home after the 90% property tax discount for having 4 kids.

But. I do make way less money in Europe. Like 1/3 what I made in 2013 in America.

>>535499716
What's a boyfriend? I'm 39. Might be out of the loop on this. Is it like the boys and I?

>>535501342
>not a single argument
>just insults
kikes conditioned you well, you deserve your fate

stfu libtard communist wokescold. no one cares about you.

>>535501416
Citizens pay less in taxes. You don't pay taxes on owning a vehicle. You pay registration and insurance. That's not a tax. This is what I'm talking. You're all arguing about a system you don't even fully understand.

>>535499716
What if its an enemy? Thats why you must pay money. So an enemy can't beat you by using your healthcare and then fighting you. Because he already paid. Is any of this getting through to you?

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>>535501342
USA used to be great because it was literally the largest White ethnostate in the world, that is exactly what made it great before jews destroyed it.
USA was 90% White in 1960 and 9% niggers and only 1% other, and the niggers weren't coming in, not allowed to come, but they were only descendants of the nigger slaves that the jew brought and they were kept in their own neighborhoods away from humans.

In a White ethnostate everything is possible. In a multiracial hellhole destroyed by jews, nothing is. Everything will end up a South Africa unless the jew is exterminated before it finishes doing that.

Jews are who wrote and pushed the 1965 Hart-Celler Act that allowed nonwhites to migrate for the first time, while restricing White migration, which immediately started eating at the White demographics, exactly as jews planned. Its only getting browner and that will not stop until the jews are dead.

>The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this Country. We [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigory for about a half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever."
- Earl Raab, The Jewish Bulletin, 9th Feb 1993, p. 23

>>535501448
My argument is you've never lived here. You have no idea what you're talking about. That's not an insult lol, but I love how you responded with nothing anyway. It's like you need attention about not knowing what the fuck you're talking about. Do you know what progressive tax is? Do you understand deductions? Do you know how much the average person gets back in tax returns every year? No, you don't, because you've never been here. I'm starting to wonder if you even understand how your own country functions. Argue that fucktard

>>535499716
Canadians can. America WOULD have free healthcare, but the left decided to give all our tax dollars to Israel, and illegals(which get funneled back to the DNC). Americans need not apply

>>535501519
My dude, you pay for insurance in one year as much or more than I pay for all my car taxes and insurance in 5 years.

>>535501416
But do you have a vibrant black community or well off retirees or a world class military? Nope, just chudcare and healthcare and walkable cities

>>535501296
The research itself is often done by universities that receive public funding but it is true that the truly expensive part which is testing the drug is paid mostly by pharma companies.

But for example the largest 5 US pharma companies alone posted 347 billion dollars of profit last year. Thats larger than many countries entire GDP. There is clearly some room to cut prices.

>>535499716
I've been to the doctors once in the past 30 years. Why should I subsidize your inferior genes and poor choices?

>>535501581
We already know the jews are a virus? Wtf does that have to do with understanding how the healthcare system actually works and how to fix it? Why compare our system to yours at all of the prime symptom is jews? Why do you keep blathering on with walls of text saying variations of the same thing when you've never confirmed if anything you said about our system is true or not? And this fuck has the audacity to call me brown. Logic is clearly not your strongpoint

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>>535501386
Jews, arabs, pajeets and turks are not White.

Amerigoyim are fucking retarded. Even brown latam shitholes have better healthcare systems. Our healthcare system is fucked beyond belief and the people saying
>But we done gets the bestest medical care in the world! Ben Shapiro said so!
Have obviously never been to a hospital in their lives because our medical care is fucking garbage. My grandad got left in the hallway with no water for a day after he had a stroke. They were going to let him die there if we hadn't shown up and brought him home.

>>535501633
I haven't had insurance since I was a child and I was covered under my parents policy.

>>535501591
It's because you live there that you don't want to accept your system is broken and is stealing from you, you have no other choice. Hence my comment on kike conditioning.
I've been in many countries, nowhere seems as bad as america. I pray everyday that I never end up in that shithole. I'd rather pay 50% taxes than live in a majority of shitskins ruled by kikes.

>>535501633
My dude, your country has less influence than half the states in my country. That's why you're here discussing my country. Of course we have more problems, we're a convergence of 50 different versions of your entire country, and we have states as large as your whole continent. You'll have better luck trying to fuck a bear than winning an argument against me about my own country. Retard

>>535501716
I was talking about car insurance, but sure.

>>535499744
Why are people in this country so stupid? What's health insurance, anon? Do you know how it works? We already subsidize paying for each other's health care through insurance companies. You pay 10,000 for year of health insurance, you find out you have cancer and the treatment costs $100,000, the money doesn't come from thin air, you are being subsidized by other customers of the insurance company. The problem with health insurance vs universal (free) health care is that it's more expensive than universal health care, the insurance companies routinely deny their customers their insurance money, hold up life saving treatment, and nickle and dime their customers. The also lobby and manipulate the health care industry so that our medicine and medical practices are insanely overpriced. Our wait times are also comparable or sometimes worse than countries with universal healthcare. You would pay much less for healthcare and have shorter wait times if we implemented universal healthcare rather than letting our insurance companies or jobs dictate your medical care rather than doctors.

>>535501685
Yeah, I'm german and irish. Nice try though. You've never been to America, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>535501749
The EU is kiked more than the US lol. Moron

>>535501416
Yeah exactly this. Europeans don't pay that much higher taxes and they can even be lower. But the salaries are smaller everywhere except for Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg. Yeah latvia is like 1/3 and Finland is like 2/3 or 3/4 of US salary.
This is the power that USA created in the decades of being the largest White ethnostate in the world for 200 years before the jews changed it up, the salaries went up. And without the jews the gap to Europe would be even higher as there wouldn't be nonwhites dragging them down nor the burden created by having to upkeep them all. And America has other assets besides population that Europe doesn't like abundant natural resources, especially the most important one that is energy, which also affects the salaries and tax burden indirectly.

Of course with lower salaries in many places things are also cheaper, Latvia is definitely cheaper than USA, but its not enough cheaper to make up the salary gap. And up here in Scandinavia everything except housing and activities are pretty similar to US prices yet the salaries are lower so people don't have as much discretionary spending on average, that is true. But on the other hand you don't have to pay separately for healthcare, school, university, and daycare is cheap, so if you have a family its a toss-up where you actually are left with more money in hand at the end of the month

>>535499716
basically anything that is "free" is garbage. We have the stats about surviving cancer and surviving injuries. We have the stories of people waiting months for a simple xray or scan. We've read stories of people dying in their own fucking homes because the ambulance couldn't get there for days. We've read about how police there will handcuff someone that has been stabbed and let them fucking die on the pavement. We've all read about the death pods. Are you depressed or need a highly sophisticated surgery? why not just fuckng DIE in the fucking pod?! we cannot fund your lifesaving treatment. free is trash.

>>535501657
Go look at the waiting line outside a doctor's office in England. It's women. Healthcare is paid for by men and consumed by women. The mechanism can be the state or insurance companies not allowed to descriminate. Most taxes are transfer payments from men to women; after that it's intergenerational transfers from the young to the old

>>535501771
I pay $143 every 6 months for minimum coverage for car insurance. I'm thinking about buying a new car, financing requires collision and comprehensive. My quote was $110 a month. Which is obviously considerably more, but still, $1200 a year to fully cover a $25k car seems reasonable.

>>535501682
You are a retard. None of your posts have any value and you're certainly not White yourself, you're quite clearly some kike or other brownie trying to shit up the thread. Because the problem is jews and browns, and you dont want to get deported, so you dont want people talking about the solution which is to get rid of you, send you back where you came from.

And it is absolutely essential for us too because if the jew is not stopped its gonna flood Europe with niggers and shitskins like you too and then all the nice things we had here will be gone too, but without the higher salaries to offset it, so we'll be even more fucked

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>>535501764
>muh influence justifies paying jewish prices for everything
truly conditioned perfectly
>we have states as large as your whole continent
peak american education

>>535499716
Doesn't solve the real problem and will still lead to price increases where the taxpayer is on the hook in general. This country is beyond the pale in what is considered sane. Welfare needs to go and then the markets need to crash no survivors then a limit on lending. That way people can build back up in a fairer world. All options suck ass.

>>535500658
Absolutely, the whole idea of Americans receiving any form of medical care is disgusting to me.

>>535501904
You are absolutely paranoid lol. Not brown, not kikel. It's hilarious that you think you comprehend the tax code and Healthcare system of a country with 330 million people when your country has just over 5. You're insane.
>>535501929
You pay more taxes to jews than I do. That's a fact lol

>>535501843
Nigger, we don't send tens of billions to them every year, we don't fight their wars, we don't send our leaders to kiss the wall, nor do we have a dedicated jewish lobby to buy every politician. Bibi doesn't fly to our countries every other month to remind the cattle who they serve either. Most of our countries seek to arrest him if they even enter.
You are blind to the reality you are living.

>>535502010
But the EU forces you abide by their laws, implemented by other countries leaders. We are in the same situation, yet we still have a choice how much we contribute individually.

You don't.

>>535502008
>You pay more taxes to jews than I do
Imagine believing this in 2026. You guys might as well venmo your taxes directly to israel at this point.

>>535501953
The resources they spend on used up zogbots are insane. They are worth more in parts and should be written off by the insurance companies

>>535501901
Thats basically the same, I pay $230 per year for minimum coverage that only covers the damages im responsible for and not my own car, but i dont intend on crashing it
The only worry about min coverage is that it doesnt coverage vandalism which is increasingly possible with the shitskins around, but luckily burning cars hasn't become a thing at large scale here yet like it has in sweden and france and germany and UK. for some reason when shitskins coalesce into gangs they love burning cars, especially the MENA types. you see always that when there is some yet another protest in some shitskin mudslime land because the other faction said that muhammad only loves raping 8 year old kids and the other faction says its actually 8,5 year olds, they always burn all the cars. Maybe they dont like cars because its White technology? Idk.

>>535502085
Most of the taxes come from corporations paying capital gains, not from laborers and office workers. See, I told you that you don't understand how my country works. You're just repeating what you've heard and think your an expert.

>>535501904
Why do you engage with the jewflags? Any decent american uses a memeflag. I'd rather talk to an israeli

>>535502059
>But the EU forces you abide by their laws
They can't force anyone anything. They exist as a economic body, most of europe just tells them to fuck off subvertly enough to still get money from the mutual fund. Only shitholes like Germany or Sweden do everything the EU says.

>>535502008
You have 16 posts of zero informational value in the entire thread. You pilpul like a kike, and what gave you up is "whiter". Nobody says "whiter" except shitskins. Because there is no "whiter", you are either White or you are not. Your blood is clearly not from Europe.

>>535502147
You better watch it, you're about to be American soon, or you'll be nigger fodder. It's funny how you talk shit whilst were saving your countrymen

>>535502131
>Most of the taxes come from corporations paying capital gains, not from laborers and office workers.
lmfao, should've told me you're a kike earlier

>>535499744
I understand this POV.
Whn half the countyr is shitskins that pay nothing I'd rather pay more myself than subsidize niggers.

>>535502163
>an economic body
Yeah, who control your taxes lmao
>>535502169
I've pointed out plenty. You're just mad because you know how insignificant your opinion is since your country is smaller than most of our CITIES

>>535502203
Ahh yes, understanding where my money goes in my own country makes me a kike. Lmao

>>535502177
>saving your countrymen
Liar. You are active participants in our genocide. Everything you have said in this thread is a lie too

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>>535502147
Well considering your flag I can only imagine how much you hate jews. We all complain how our once beautiful countries were destroyed by jews which is simultaneously true but also nothing compared to what jews did to your country.
Most the people can't even comprehend how bad it is there unless you live in Orania or something and even then you are under the boot of the nigger government and its not something that can last as the niggers will come knocking at some point.
Its insane how the rand lord jews first imported niggers because they didnt want to pay salaries and later they invented the whole story about how bantu niggers are achsually native to south africa and how the country should be handed over to Mandela and his friends, even though they are not at all native to the area only scattered tribes of khoi san bushmen who are yellow niggers unlike the bantu black niggers were around when the english and dutch came.
Yet that is the story the jews sold to the world and now world thinks a "justice" was done when the country was handed over to the bantu niggers, who keep the actual natives the khoisan firmly out of power and keep all the power to themselves.
Its just another jewish false story in the world of holohoaxes but its insane that 99% of people dont know any of this and just think the natives are in charge now. Handing SA over to the bantus was like handing kazakstan over to the japanese because they're both "asian".

I cant imagine the hatred you have for the jews since we're still far away from your situation and I'm already boiling and ready to join a revolution.

>>535502299
We just paid for 10,000 white afrikaaners to migrate to the US. You want us to just leave you there? Cool, less taxes we have to pay.

Stop calling it "free", you demented negroid.

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>>535502299
Exactly this. USA jewry is behind the destruction of all White ethnostates in the world. And not just White. They target all functional ethnostates.

Case: Japan

When the shabbos goy Truman nuked Japanese civilians twice to submission and then Americans flew to Japan to force a new constitution for them, a Kike Rat tagged along.

Guess what the Kike Rat put in the new japanese constitution?
It put the part where japanese are not allowed by law to discriminate based on race or religion.

In other words, after thousands of years of isolation creating a perfectly harmonious society, the JEW forces them to accept kikes and their niggers.
There is nothing as destructive and perfidious in this world as the ugly dysgenic parasitic freak that is the inbred mongrelized JEW.

JEW goes around and destroys societies with genetics honed for thousands of years becoming of pure unmixed blood and thus great societies.
JEW wants to mix this blood, destroy this blood, destroy this society.

Letting a JEW in your society will result to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION BEING UNDONE

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>>535502337
You destroyed their country in the first place you dirty, filthy jews and now you act your saving them by taking a few handfuls of them in? From the country you destroyed with niggers.
It was USA that pressured and sanctioned them to end the apartheid and hand the country over to the niggers.
You are a filthy jew. A filthy, disgusting, lying jew whose entire jewish family needs to be hanged.

>>535502323
My dislike of jews is not as extreme as my hatred of fellow white (((boers))) or our boomers or our American friends. At least jews are open about who they are and how they operate. Treachery and betrayal is far worse

>>535502010
You see how that kike is constantly shifting and deflecting, never addressing the argument and always moving to a next one.

The more I argued with Jews, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.

>>535502391
Lol, my family immigrated from Germany in 1726. They were farmers. I'm Pennsylvania Dutch/Deutsch. Call me a kike all you want. Everything youre saying about the jews is correct, I'm not arguing that. Your understanding of the way my country functions needs some work though

>>535502443
I've addressed your arguments about Healthcare directly. You're just angry because you now realize you don't really understand what you're taking about

>>535502247
Yeah actually I'd pay for the niggers to receive less if that was an option.
Unfortunately we live in a jewish clownworld where we are turned into cattle that pays for the existence of shitskins which they return the favor with crime.

Not only do we have to deal with depressed wages and rising housing prices because of all the non-whites, but in cases of socialized housing like section 8, the non-whites gets housed on Whites dime and the jew gets the rent-check.

So not only did you have to buy a much much more expensive house than it should have been, but you're now paying taxes to pay the jew a rent-check to house non-whites.

Example Section 8 rent-check for 2BR ghetto-ass apartment in NYC is $3,027/month
>https://www.nyc.gov/site/nycha/section-8/voucher-payment-standards-vps-utility-allowance-schedule.page

So it goes like this
>be Jewish
>jewish in-law who works at the bank makes sure you get approved for a loan
>buy 20 nigger storage units
>niggers come in with section 8 vouchers in hand
>get paid $3,027/month per
>$60,540/mo or $726,480/yr of completely free money, extracted from the backs of the White taxpaying working-class
>money which the kike worked 0 hours for
>all the while enjoying watching White society disintegrate itself and Whites paying Jews for their own destruction
>the entire business model is scamming Whites
>they already functionally have a thousand gentile slaves each paying tribute

>>535502337
>10,000
Actually 8,000 out of 800,000 applicants in two years. You insist the applicants stay in country connected to the cell phone network. You provided their data to third parties. It's a trap and you know it

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>>535502435
Yeah I understand, if you had two bullets, and an enemy and a traitor, you'd shoot the traitor twice.
The traitor that works with the jew is indeed worse than jew itself.
Therefore its not enough to just kill the jews, but everyone that ever worked with them
Otherwise the world is doomed

>>535502518
If the US sucks so bad compared to SA, why are so many applying to leave?

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>>535499716
>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.

Bong here. First of all, it's not free you just pay taxes. However if you don't pay taxes then it's free. Secondly, the quality of the care is pretty shit compared paid for service. Third, when the tax payer has to pay for it, it becomes political and politicians get involved - rule of thumb, politicians are scum.

I am not advocating the USA's system and definitely not 'free healthcare' like the NHS when we essentially have open borders and degree mill tier pajeet and nigerian doctors. Socialists have turned our healthcare system into a shibboleth that cannot be criticised or reformed.
If healthcare was simply affordable it would be so much better

>>535502483
You have "addressed" absolutely nothing and you've only lied and deflected and changed topic this entire thread. You are not German, Dutch or anything else except jewish. It is very clear from your behaviour. Now stop fucking talking and leave the thread. Nobody ever wants you jews anywhere, all you do is lie and pilpul until the moment you are corralled to the pogroms

>>535502571
>If the US sucks so bad compared to SA, why are so many applying to leave?
Lmao you fucking filthy disgusting word twisting jew
I cannot wait until people get fed up with you enough that you get your next pogrom

>>535502571
When you announced the refugee program we believed you. We are getting murdered and impoverished. You betrayed us. It was a huge mistake on your part, because now as long as some of us survive no American will be safe on African soil. We used to look after you

>>535502609
You're the one avoiding a discussion by just calling me a kike, which is actually the exact pilpul you describe. Again, call me a kike glownigger nigger jew boy moishe,I don't care at all because it's simply not true. I do find it funny though that you continue to seethe, on a website hosted in my country, that allows you the ability to say even a small percentage of what you have said here. Why don't you run for office in Finland? Oh right, because Finland has almost no influence on anything anywhere.

>>535502659
The jews in my country betrayed you. Sure they betrayed all of us. I do what I can, which has influenced many people to be aware of the JQ. Sorry that I'm not a god, I don't control every aspect of my country, nor do you in you're. >>535502632
How is asking a simple question that you have a difficult time answering 'twisting words'? You sound and type fast now jewish than me

>>535502700
>my country
jew confirmed. No decent american of European stock would make that claim. America belongs to women, jews and various mud races in that order; if we drew a composite of an average American it would be Kamala Harris

>>535502249
>Yeah, who control your taxes
>americans genuinely believe this
The EU gives fuck all about our taxes, they care about the big check it gets every once in a while, to see if we deserve another big check in return when we need it. We dictate our own taxes.
EU functions almost like a savings account between member nations. It's only jews that inflitrated it who keep pushing countries to adopt certain laws or we don't get our money back, but that's fear mongering coupled with bribing politicians, rather than something that has legislative basis. We just tell them to fuck off when they get intrusive.
Right now Romania is trying to remove anti-semitic laws from our country, fuck can EU do? Nothing, it all the depends on the european parliament and the majority vote. I hope it happens, most of europe will follow suit if there is something to kickstart it. No one likes these rats in here, we just avoid telling americans and their precious kikes to fuck off because we don't want military conflicts. For decades we have believed that america can be trusted, but the last few years have proven the opposite, you are all hungry for violence, if Israel deems europe a threat, your goylem leaders will gladly draft you to go to war against us and destroy the last hope for western civilization.

>>535502581
>Secondly, the quality of the care is pretty shit compared paid for service.
this gets said constantly and it's not true
our private insurance healthcare is on par with or worse than countries with universal healthcare

>>535501448
Wow you really are a fucking retarded nigger third worlder if you couldn’t comprehend what he was saying.

>>535502775
How would know what America looks like when you've never been here? Are you still believing jewish media? You seem to do everything you're trying to call me out for.
It's my country when you're attacking me for what jews do, but it's not my country when I concede that yeah, jews have corrupted the country my family has lived in for 300 years. Make up your fucking mind

>>535502760
>The jews in my country betrayed you
Come now, you can't keep playing that "the jews made me do it game". You can't play the eternal dupe

>>535502845
>you've never been here
Is this datamining or jewish presumption?

>>535502794
>right now Romania is trying to remove anti-semitic laws in our country
And you say Romania isn't controlled by jews? Lol, you can't even stay on the same side as your own arguments

>>535502819
It's not an argument. If your basis for understanding something is only experiencing directly, not also by learning, observing news, politics, events, recognizing patterns, then you are truly the shitskin mutts everyone says you are.

>>535502845
>my country
I don't think that possessive pronoun means what you think it means. America is a jewish possession and you are their golem. That is clear from every word outta your mouth

>>535502851
You're the one claiming that everyone with an American flag is Jewish lol. I'm just following the premise you set, since you can't seem to comprehend anything in reality.
>>535502878
It's obviously a correct assessment, otherwise you would have told me what part you've been to lmao

>>535502888
You’re arguing with a literal subhuman gypsy. Just a waste of time to try and talk to people so stupid.

>>535499843
Nonsense. I've had three surgeries in this shithole and I never had to wait. I broke my arm and got a cast the same day.

>>535499716
I do think Europeans have a vastly higher quality of life than Americans but it's so nauseating how some people always make it about "healthcare". Normal people don't need doctors, they are useless. Hospitals are full of inbred immigrants, druggies and goyslop addicts. "Healthcare" is a religious institution for leftists with high mututational load who cannot function without medications. The reason Europe is superior to America is quite simple; better culture, better aesthetics, actual history, less jewishness (the monetisation of all social relationships) and much better demographics (yes really, even in places like France, Belgium, UK).

>>535499716
Its antisemitic.

>>535502926
If your basis of understanding is entirely indirect than your opinion isnt worth much.
>>535502933
Ahh yes, trying to focus on semantics now rather than the argument at hand. Very yiddish of you. If you were smart enough, you'd know possessive nouns are applied through context of the sentence structure. Of course, none of you speak English as a first language though

>>535502967
I know, I'm honing my debate skills whilst laughing at how stupid they are.

>>535502888
>having anti-semitic laws is the same as being controlled by jews
Look, I get we hate them, but we can't just kill them in the streets. That will just give them more victim status in the eyes of golems like your nation. That's how you got tricked into invading europe in WW2.
We had to be careful, we needed this war with Iran and the genocide in Gaza to start pushing them out, they had to become the aggressor, otherwise they would just play the victim. I, mean they still will, the butthurt that repelling this law is causing in europe among kikes gives me joy like never before, but no one believes their cries anymore.

Free healthcare doesn't exist. But the American system sounds absolutely terrifying.

>>535499716
Why would I want to subsidize your nigger life extension programs?

>>535503069
You already do.

>>535503053
Why on earth would you think that we have it any better or worse? We can't just kill them in the street either.

>>535503008
>mututational load
This comment is far too perceptive and true and fact laden for this thread. You're going to get it pruned

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>But I don't want to pay for muh niggers
THEY
ALREADY
GET
MEDICAID

>>535503119
Aww, did my renunciation of your semantic bullshit scare you away?

>>535503102
No, but at least we are trying their removal.
You country just doubles down on worshipping them. How's that kike pride month going?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/05/jewish-american-heritage-month-2026/

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>>535502794
>The EU gives fuck all about our taxes, they care about the big check it gets every once in a while, to see if we deserve another big check in return when we need it. We dictate our own taxes.
>EU functions almost like a savings account between member nations. It's only jews that inflitrated it who keep pushing countries to adopt certain laws or we don't get our money back
yeah this, its an extremely kiked system. we need to put money in it and then beg our own money back and if we dont accept infinity shitskins or enact "holocaust denial" and "hate speech" laws we dont get our own money back
it is absolutely retarded and kiked system but the difference is that the kikes have overtaken EU but for most of us not our national govts so we are not so deeply kiked as US is as only the EU laws are kiked while national ones are not.
some countries of course have kikes in the nation too, sweden, france, germany, UK, too , and they're doing the worst because of it

>>535503191
Trying is not doing. And stop saying we, you're not doing anything but coping by bitching about another country. You're closer to Israel than we are. Do something about it.
Besides, our left and right under 45 years old actually agree on Israel. When the boomers are gone, they will try to run to China, and China it's going to laugh in their faces, because they're even more racist than we are

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>>535503041
>I'm honing my debate skills
>my debate skills
>skills
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd GOOD ONE

>>535499716
Dude in the UK you have to wait a week to just get a doctor's receptionist to answer the phone. I have to pay a private physio anyway for piriformis syndrome because it's taking months just to see one on the NHS. Everyone has to pay private. You pay for the NHS but the backlog is so tremendous from all the boomers and foreigners dying of lung cancer and preventable illnesses that you have no chance of getting seen unless you go private now.

>>535499744
>Free healthcare is only good in a ethnically homogenous country.
As someone who has experienced the real thing Anon is correct.
The NHS used to be amazing and an asset to the country. Now it's a dysfunctional dumpster fire that can't cope no matter how much money is thrown at it. And its downfall tracks closely with the changing demographics. Young people just can't understand how it has changed, they just assume it was always shit.

>>535503008
Everyone needs healthcare when they're old enough, and when young its still absolutely freeing to know that if you get into an accident or god forbid get cancer or something you wont be totally and utterly fucked
Its the peace of mind, not that you need a doctor.

>>535502806
Yes but this is also a USA medical treatment for profit problem, I was more generalising regarding that point to include European systems etc

>>535503305
Thanks. I noticed you disappeared for a bit and are back with your wall of texts that no one was reading. You still seem mad though. Funny how you claim I'm not addressing anything when you provide limited posts like this. I'm starting to think you just wish you were American and are angry that you're not.

>>535503227
Until we can discuss the scourge of freemasonry and the treachery of our fellow whites we are doomed. Oldfags use the term jew as a catchall for masons, rotarians and neo-platonists but focus on the babylonian talmudists risks letting them ride the scapegoat

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>>535499716
>free healthcare
Nothing is ever free.
Have fun paying 40.9% of your wage for social security, just so Mutumbu can come here and get fully alimented and rape your daughter while you're waging away at your job.

It's very simple, the wicked will take advantage of kindness towards the righteous. A good deed cannot exist near evil.

>>535499716
If you think paying for health care is expensive, wait until you get it for free.

>>535503367
>population of the US
330,000,000
>population of Finland
5,375,000

Interesting

>>535503402
Better paying 40% of your wage than 200% and end up financially ruined whenever you're sick

>>535503289
No one is closer to Israel than you are.
You have enough jews in your country to form another Israel.
And no they won't, america is their golden calf. While you cry on 4chan, the kikes are mass building data centers that will power the AI which will be used to enslave the youth regardless of their feelings. It's too late for your country.

>>535499716
They happily pay for Israelis to have public healthcare and education. Goyim deserve nothing.

>>535500763
Exactly what happens in the UK. You turn up to Accident & Emergency with an injury that needs stitches and you will be sat there for 14 hours waiting because the room is full of pensioners who have been chain smoking all their lives and enormous fat foreigners who can't speak English and need a translator because their inbred sprog has got a snotty nose and they just want free paracetamol.

That 2nd issue is now becoming a serious problem. People will turn up to hospital expecting basic over the counter medication for free. Literally Calpol for their kids that costs buttons if you buy supermarket own brand. They clog up the waiting rooms in every hospital in the land. That and utter idiots who are rolling around screaming in pain and it turns out they just have an in-growing toenail.

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>>535503008
And when it comes to quality of life I think if you're rich in America and can live away from all the problems that jews have created the niggers the shitskins, live in some private key in the Florida keys, the quality of life in America is higher than in the "normal" Europe. None of the health care etc. problems touch you either since you can just pay cash.
But if you're ultra-rich then it again turns around as living in Monaco or Andorra or some other gems can be a better "base" and the mediterranean sea to where to park your yacht, when you spend most of your life hopping the world anyway. Switzerland is also very popular for these oligarch types.

For normies and poors Europe is definitely better. For now, that is. Europe is actively getting worse, so is America, but Europe's browning and downfall is currently steeper. There is also the fact that American society has somewhat adapted to existence of niggers and shitskins like having a police force that does pic rel, if that rape had happened in Europe the girl would have been raped and the cops not make it in time. Its insane how much gang-rapes have been happening recently here.
And there is also the type of brown, we get the very worst from the sewer of the world, we get the niggers, the jews, the pajeets, the pakis, and the arabs, turks, other MENA trash.

Meanwhile USA gets those too sure but relatively less, they get more of spics which arent as bad as those mentioned earlier, they also get the better browns like thais filipinos indonesians etc. and also japanese and koreans which are the best migrants you can get, less criminal than even native Whites.

so ultimately the situation is quite nuanced, its hard to say one is better than other, and especially what the future holds.
of course to everyone its clear that we'll all become south africa's eventually if the jew doesnt get killed, but where will the jew get pogromed first and the browns removed? that will become the best place

>>535503364
Foreigners turn up to A&E expecting a free bottle of Calpol because their kid has a runny nose. Every single waiting room up and down the land is full of them

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>>535499716
You seriously want to pay way more tax to fund pic relateds medical bills?

>>535503089
We've got to roll that shit back.

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>>535503144
Yeah somehow they don't fucking get this that they're already paying taxes to care of the niggers, they're just not getting any themselves. The ultimate goy slave, serving niggers.

Niggers are America's gods.
Americans fear niggers like a mortal would fear God. They're not allowed to curse or speak ill of niggers, like how you mustn't blaspheme God or take His name in vain.
They devote entire institutions in academia and media to remind themselves of their sins against niggers and beg for mercy, like you'd beg God for forgiveness for your sins. The only landmarks and monuments they're allowed to revere are parks, schools and statues dedicated to famous niggers, immortalized in marble like gods.
While their ancestors expressed devotion to gods through offerings of food and drink, present-day Americans created food stamps for niggers for this very purpose. Jesus gets two annual days of reverence, while niggers get an entire month plus MLK's birthday. Americans prostrate themselves in the streets to appease niggers. This is because nigger worship is the official religion of America.

It's only free for leeches. I have to pay for their doctors and then pay another time to a private doctor because the "free" one will see you in two fucking years.

>>535503504
You're the one crying. Yeah, America is controlled by Israel. I never said it wasn't

>>535503577
it's actually cheaper to fund these fat fucks with taxes through universal healthcare than using our current system of private health insurance. People keep forgetting that you also get the benefits of universal healthcare when you, or your kid, or your spouse visits the hospital for an injury or illness and the only thing you pay for is parking and vending machine snacks.

>>535503622
And talking about nigger worship in America is your favorite pass time.

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>>535499744
you pay for free healthcare in israel

>>535503367
The people bleating about free healthcare are 300lb ham beasts with a cocktail of meds they take every day to stave off the eventual heart attack that should have killed them at age 26.

Free or social healthcare can only work if the population understands that they have a responsibility to look after their bodies as best they can and not abuse the system. Too many people think they can chain smoke their whole lives, guzzle gallons of alcohol, eat mountains of slop and lay about on their backside and then when the inevitable health issues arise they expect the taxpayer to keep them alive. It's just a straight up abuse of the system

>>535499716
>Autistic diatribe about healthcare and toilets
This lemming has absolutely no clue how the world around him works, just like most of xitter.

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>>535503364
>Young people just can't understand how it has changed, they just assume it was always shit.
This is ultimately the argument that jews will use that single-payer healthcare can't work when they're destroyed it by importing shitskins.
That is the new world the jews will adapt people to and then people think that "oh yeah it never actually worked it always sucked" when that is entirely false, everything worked as a White ethnostate, but thats of course the story the jew needs to bury.

Picrel is a story of one such adaptation that happened here, where kids of today thinks it normal that girls can't go out at night because it can be dangerous. Then this Gen X politician is *shocked* that girls can't go out at night like boys like how can it be dangerous when there was zero danger in her youth. Well of course the roving packs of gang-raping shitskins didn't exist back then but of course, her programming kicks in and says "this is not about migrants" when it actually is. But since WWII was won by the bad guys, everyone has been programmed since school how Nazis were the bad guys and even if they intuitively understand that shitskins create ALL the problems, their programming kicks in to prevent them from thinking it to the logical conlusion that Nazis were the ones actually right about everything, and everything in this jewish clown world has been a lie.

But the kids don't understand any of this. They just think its normal to have shitskins in a society and that it can be dangerous outside. Then give it a couple of generations and the gen X and millennials who remember this country as a safe White ethnostate are gone, and you get the situation of America today where everyone alive thinks its normal to have shitskins and unsafety, that its just life and it couldnt be anyhow else.

>>535503654
If you add up federal, state, city and sales taxes and don't forget to add in the "employers contribution" on social security you will find Americans pay more tax than Europeans. The hofjuden tax the goys to the inflection point of the laffer curve. The difference is in the expenditure which is where they pick winners and losers. In america it's medicare for olds and the war machine

>>535503754
It's a 300lb ham beasts who expects the tax payer to fund their obesity related ailments

>>535499716
Well, it's not actually "free" for starters...

>>535499716
>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.
It's bad because non-whites abuse it, not on the principle. Luckily whites have this very special ability to not nuisance others by abusing systems that can help the less fortunate. Foreigners don't have this. You wait for a month to go to the doctors because some paki is deeply worried about his cock warts and needs weekly check-ups about it.

>>535503770
we are the wealthiest country in the history of the planet
we can easily afford universal healthcare, we tax our wealthy at an appropriate rate (they won't even notice it) and we stop giving our military 2 trillion fucking dollars a year and we would not be having this conversation

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>>535503527
>People will turn up to hospital expecting basic over the counter medication for free. Literally Calpol for their kids that costs buttons if you buy supermarket own brand. They clog up the waiting rooms in every hospital in the land. That and utter idiots who are rolling around screaming in pain and it turns out they just have an in-growing toenail.
Sounds extremely pajeet/arab/jew behaviour
They truly have no civic sense and will absolutely destroy any system.
"Free" healthcare cant work in multiracial shitholes, only monoethnic Whitopias
I dont think the other races except Whites and East Asians have even developed a sense of their actions in the larger picture, like they don't even consider it, that clogging up healthcare for no reason is bad for other people

>>535503679
Can't you just leave the thread already you're 40 posts in now with your bullshit non-arguments, you are exactly like a jew. Do you wonder how does everyone know you're jewish without seeing you? Your behaviour. Its in your poisonous blood. Now shut the fuck up and stop shitting the thread. None of your posts have any informational value its all just wordplay which you think is "debating" because you're jewish.

>>535503687
Are you illiterate? It's as if you didn't read my post at all which you replied to. Read it again.

>>535499716
Niggers and illegals get free healthcare in America.
You only pay for it if you're white and have money they can take.

>>535503852
The inhabitants of European countries kinda like each other. Americans hate each other. The doctor's want to kill you for profit and focus on oncology and the last days of the dying. You hold insurance company shares in your 401k so you can profit off the ozympic injections for the fatties you have poisoned. You all gloat about being 7 iq points smarter than each other. You relish your doggy dog race

>>535503852
the one great thing about american tax system which only USA and china do in the entire world, is that they tax their citizens wherever they are
europe has a massive problem how easy it is for the wealthy to dodge tax here, the tax agencies are smaller and ultimately ineffective compared to the massive IRS, and we only tax residents not citizens. so uber rich can fuck off somewhere else for half the year have and skip the tax.
only americans and chinese can't. if they want to skip the tax they need to rescind the citizenship, and thats exactly how it should be.
europe's taxmans arm is very short, while america's taxmans arm is long.

Sure, of course everywhere in the world jews have created loopholes that allow the richest kikes to avoid most of the taxes. But there is still a difference its much harder to avoid in USA and so less people do it
Here its often the case that the honorable working class pay their tax but they end up carrying the burden as lot of the rich are dishonorable and dodge tax instead

>>535503008
>ok it's cool you guys get healthcare but healthcare is for... unhealthy people!
What level of cope is this? You realize shit happens to young productive people too right? Are you still going to think the same if you get a painful kidney stone?

>>535503577
>pay way more tax
That's the problem, they shouldn't pay more, they should have universal healthcare. They already pay taxes for 3 healthcares worth, but it's wasted so niggers and kikes can live luxuriously, on a military that in the last 30 years has only been used for Israeli interests and on dumb shit like ballrooms.
Americans already pay more than enough taxes, but they are wasted on anything than the common good of every american.
Funniest shit, Trump just exempted himself and his family from tax audits, while the cattle will pay in full or get punsihed. I wonder if american mass media even covers this.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/20/us-president-trump-and-family-given-immunity-from-pending-tax-audits

>>535504080
This focus on income taxes is quite unfair. The rewards for labor are tiny compared to the rewards on capital. Taxes on land and property and tariffs are fairer. Property is what the state was organized to protect

>>535502123
I was paying $900 a year but I recently improved my credit score significantly, so it went down 66%. Crazy how much having Good Goyim™ score reduced your costs. Kek.

Why would you support taxpayer healthcare when half of your country is nons? Look at Euro countries after diversity and notice how absolutely shit and pointless taxpayer healthcare became when the countries are filled with foreigners on welfare. "Free" healthcare is only good in a homogeneous society.

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>>535504259
That much is true, correct. But at least their capital gains get taxed even if they leave the country for a holiday.
But yeah its still only *somewhat* better because everything has been built in a jewish way where capital gain, when you don't actually do shit and parasite off others, is taxed less, and if you're a crafty kike you can just skip it all by doing crafty jewish things.
Nowhere is the tax situation good but china and US are amongst the best in sea of worst options.

Of course all this globalist capital gain nonsense would be gone had the good guys won WWII and everyone would be rewarded in accordance of what they actually produce instead of what they can steal from others but alas, we are in the bad timeline.

>>535503488
it is if you're living in an ethno state

>>535504362
oh lmao yeah that Good Goy points system is quite funny indeed.
we only have negative credit score which means that you get marked if you dont pay your bills / loans. there is no positive credit score that taking loans from kikes give you more goy points. this system is sane, i think.

however there is one big aspect i envy in american credit system. is that you can do personal bankruptcy. its actually quite astonishing that you were able to slip that in back in the White ethnostate days when highest marginal tax rates were like 90%, before reagan, when workers were compensated properly and the richest taxed most, White America of the old used to be quite the worker's paradise which the retards today don't understand because they think that only what is today ever existed and nothing ever was different in history, but i digress.
point is, i think personal bankruptcy possibility is enormously important in how willing people are to make companies, take risks, which ultimately drives innovation. personal bankruptcy might end up with jews losing money for once so they dont actually like that existing, and it doesnt in most of the world, so its interesting that it does in USA.
anyway, in USA you can take loans and if you fuck up you can declare personal bankruptcy and start over. this is a HUGE weight off your shoulders, similar how the "free" healthcares most important part is taking the weight off my shoulders that i dont need to worry about getting sick or in an accident.
but when it comes to loans, if you get in debt here you try something and fail, well you're never getting off. the loans will follow you forever and even be inherited by your children unless they decide to forego the whole inheritance
this is what I personally believe, and it is logical too, that it makes people risk averse and fear of creating new companies by taking debt. they rather play it safe to not fuck up their life. there is no do-overs

>>535499716
>free
ngmi

>>535504467
Capital gains is how the jews enforce the inflation tax from their money printing. What can be taxed sort of ethically is that which is taken from the common weal: mining royalties, land rents on the fenced off commons, fishing, timber, grazing; and some tax on improvements in that the police and army protect those and maybe a little redistribution to stop the peasants revolting

>>535499716
There are pros and cons to both systems.

Public healthcare is at the mercy of bureaucracy and government control.
Private healthcare is at the mercy of insurance companies who wanna butt fuck you.
Pick your poison.

>>535499716
There is no such thing as free healthcare. Leftists are morons.

>>535504734
actually in a natsoc system you don't really need to tax much at all since when natsoc system prints money to target a steady sensible inflation rate like 1%, it isnt magicked into existence by "loaning" it from the jews that never actually had it and then being on hook to the jews for that money that didnt exist just a second ago, which is an insane system.
instead the money you need to inject to the economy, you dont give it to the jews, but you rather pay the state workers with it, the police, the army, the road construction, the teachers, doctors, and so on.
this way you keep inflation stable and don't really need to tax at all, because the jew no longer steals the money that gets printed.
and importantly you dont print more than to meet the 1% inflation target, if you need any more money then and only then you need to tax it.

>>535500346
>In fact there is this curious stat that somehow migrants use FIVE TIMES more healthcare than the native Whites
It's not that big a surprise. Let's say someone in a shithole has tubercolosis that will kill him eventually. He can either die in his shithole or move to Europe and get treated for free.

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>>535504774
>Pick your poison.
I'll pick the one that eradicates all the jewish blood from this planet
A virus would do

>>535499716
>no one said it immediately
IT'S FUCKING NIGGERS.

>>535502247
You pay more because joggers don’t pay idiot

Dunno bros Americans take decades to debate basic shit but eventually they turn to normalcy.
It's just the nature of the culture.

>>535499880
>brownoid coping

It's, uh, complicated.

Hi 4chan. NHS paediatric doctor here!
I'm just getting home from my shift but the train is cancelled so AMA (no covid Q's please)

>>535499716
Because it helps niggers and humans have to pay for it.

>>535501416
You earn less money because you're still recovering from your soviet days

>>535499716
it's not free
and you know it. but you keep saying that it is

this is why I hate people like you

>>535499744
>You are subsidising the niggers to a far higher rate
>the niggers get free healthcare while you don't
>You know perfectly well that you can be financially ruined for the rest of your life because of your current system
It's honestly baffling you retards can't string these things together

>>535504843
The finance and insurance sector slurps about 20% of economic activity. Tax collection is expensive. Do away with the FIRe and you can drop taxes. tl;dr it's the jews

>>535499716
I don't like paying for the healthcare of people who don't care about their health.
I don't like subsidizing poor decision making.
I would prefer to pay for my own healthcare. Instead of everyone elses.
But because that's not how she goes. Our healthcare is always trying to cut corners and save money. That's why we have MAIDS. To get rid of net negatives and harvest their organs for profit.

"Free" healthcare everyone!
Where you spent THREE FUCKING DAYS in the ER waiting room.
>Actual statistic.

Healthcare is affordable in the US if you have decent health insurance. Europeans have decent health insurance because they pay much higher taxes, their system isnt run by blood sucking parasitic monsters who should be starving in hard labor camps and also Europe only has a decorative military for parades.

>>535499716
Americans dont wanna pay for a niggers healthcare cost

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>>535505443
half of it is true, europeans are vastly more healthy in general
mart sharters like pic rel and morbidly obese niggers on mobility scooters isn't a thing you often see here

but the other half is false as explained already most of their costs of the healthcare comes from unrelated expenses, insurance jews, health management organization jews, hospital owner jews, lawyer jews, jew jews, kike jews, etc. all of which are not the patient nor the doctor
if executed perfectly they could pay the same tax even with the niggers around and have healthcare for the whites too and not just the niggers, but again you cant execute anything perfectly in a country with kikes and other scammers like jeets, armenians, arabs, etc.

>>535499716
what is this N on about, you literally pay for healthcare in your taxes unless you are on benefits.
And also you wait like 6 months for an appointment on average and then the doc looks at you for like 5 minutes.

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>>535505476
>NHS paediatric doctor here!
are there any White kids left in UK or are they all brown?
seeing "british" school pics like pic rel give me pause and feeling of dread

>>535499716
Free healthcare is only free for blacks and illegals. Free healthcare is paid for by whites.

Europe brags about free healthcare, but then they flee their own country because they don't like how they have 60% income tax for their "free" healthcare.

>>535505476
>but the train is cancelled
shouldn't have imported jeets

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>>535505736
>tl;dr it's the jews
rule 88 my fren indeed

i feel bad every time i see south african flag that place is naturally beautiful and it could be a paradise like no other if the WWII turned the right way and jews were removed and niggers deported from the land. it could be a little Whiteopia at the tip of Africa

>>535505638
The main benefits of your current system is the middle men in private insurance. They are very powerful lobby. Pretty sure USA would save money going singlepayer but once shit has festered it's hard to dislodge all the rich people. But yeah, let's keep healthcare expensive and inefficient because you hate black people. Get divided and conquered, retard.

>>535505885
If the eternal anglos had gassed the (((boers))) we would be one big happy Rhodesia. You need to do a deep dive into who they are

>>535505857
>but then they flee their own country because they don't like how they have 60% income tax for their "free" healthcare
not really, taxes are high but as already presented ITT they are not much higher than high tax states in USA like california. australia and canada are comparable too.

if you removed all the jew and nigger related problems europe has one major disadvantage that used to be fixed by having colonies but the jew made the europeans lose them, for example give middle eastern oil to their 70IQ camel jockey arab brothers who happened park their camels in the same desert europeans found and extracted the oil
the problem which is, lack of natural resources
this abundance of resources in the new world create higher salaries especially in USA but somewhat in australia too, and this is what some people go after who care most about money
the other reason to go to places like japan is because it still resemble the safe utopia that Europe used to be
third reason is the White heart's yearn for adventure and discovery the same which made Whites conquer the world and create beautiful societies all over the world
"better" weather is also one, that is subjective of course though
those are really the reasons for europeans to leave, and most of them still come back.

i for one are not big fan of our long dark winters, at least not for its entire length its nice for a month but not the 8 months it lasts. if it was possible to have the 90% white california of 1960s a lifestyle of living the summer here which is great and then wintering in california or australia or south africa (again if the niggers didnt exist) would be perfect

none of it has really anything to do with taxes and if you actually need a tax haven they exist right here in europe, monaco, andorra, lichenstein, cyprus

>>535499716
>4 likes from 3 years ago
Seriously, how do people even find these screencaps. I'd assume OP being the retarded faggot they are is the one who tweeted this originally but thinking broadly across all shill threads posted, it can't always be the original person. So the question becomes, why this tweet? What about this once made them save it only to trot it out years later?

I'd almost be inclined to think it's just bot activity and that's why it feels disjointed logically. That doesn't entirely make sense though because why would it not pick something more popular? This has always activated the old almond for me in regards to the propaganda structure of this site

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>>535505894
>because you hate black people
everyone does. you are clearly one yourself if you dont because they are solely the reason that sweedn has gone to shit. and the jews that brought them in. sweden in the 1980s was peak and now everything is different. someone living back then couldnt ever have even imagined that one days there would packs of shitskins committing gang rapes and throwing grenades and shooting with assault rifles
nowadays there's a shooting or bombing in Sweden literally every single day
>https://la.stnight.in/Sweden/
bombings used to be once per 10 years and shootings once per year events in the entire nation, now its daily

and your post implies as if hating on "black people", just say NIGGERS, is uncalled for

>>535505894
we wouldn't need to hate your kind if you just stayed in your own fucking countries. but no, you come to our homes and fuck everything up
OF COURSE we hate you, how the fuck can you not understand that
we didn't invite you, we didn't want you here, the jews let you in without asking us, and you wonder why we hate you?? its unfathomable how you are this retarded

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>>535506010
but weren't the rand lords who imported most of the niggers mostly jewish and anglo, not boer?
i do need to do a deep dive though, south africas history is interesting, if not because of anything else but as a cautionary tale what happens if you dont kill the jew

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>>535499716
"While 100 million Americans have at least some medical debt, about 7.4% of U.S. residents experience catastrophic healthcare expenses annually, more than double the rate of any other developed nation. Here, medical debt is defined as experiencing problems paying or being unable to afford any medical bills in the past 12 months, including those for doctors, dentists, hospitals, therapists, medication, equipment, nursing home or home care. And the term catastrophic is defined as out-of-pocket spending exceeding 40% of a household’s income after basic necessities have been met. Further, estimates suggest that inability to afford costs of medical care contributes to at least 530,000 personal bankruptcy filings annually. Approximately two-thirds of personal bankruptcies in the U.S. are associated with medical expenses or illness-related loss of work." - https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2026/04/05/increasing-burdens-of-medical-debt-and-bankruptcy-are-uniquely-american/

>>535499716
>free
The fact that you think it's "free" tells us so much about you.

>>535506203
The randlords were jews or like Rhodes financed by the Rothschild. There are many boerejode and cryptos. Think of Kruger, but many jew names. There is a reason the jews handed the country to the masonic broedrbond to shut it down

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>>535499913
>Isn't it great to be American? Everyone seethes about us 24/7.

Americans get all the best MDs cause they get paid more.

In Canada wait times are horrible if you're not in immediate danger. I'd prefer a hybrid system where emergency and hospital care are covered by taxes, and less sever medical issues are handled by private clinics. The few times I've been to the ER it's 85% full of elderly people who have non ER issues. The government needs to go back to shaking people for poor health choices too, make being fat bad agian.

>>535506121
Niggers aren't too bad in their native state. Swazis are kind and even feed me when I visit. The jews turn them into monsters and they should not be invading polite society

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>>535501416
>>535501849

>>535504080
In theory the U.S. tax system sounds great, in practice it only serves to keep the tax cattle on the plantation.

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>>535506409
Well I think people don't understand the fact that there is far more genetic variety between niggers than there are between Europeans for example. And still when Europeans are minisculely different, we still understand that we're different people, even the small differences are enough to distinct us.
But with niggers the differences are absolutely massive. And more niggers used to exist but the bantus genocided 100s of them during the bantu expansion.
I dont know how the khoisan are but I assume they arent as bad as the bantu/zulu niggers that now dominate south africa and lot of the african continent by their incredible brutality and total callousness towards all life, especially human life
And of course american got mostly west africans since thats where the slave ships picked them up, who are violent and stupid like bantus
Meanwhile the worst of all the niggers have to be somalis, as theyre mix of black nigger and jew/arab aka canaanite, aka gypsy from india.
so they got the violent and stupid nature of the nigger but also the scammy ethnic nepotic nature of the jeet/jew/arab, truly creating the worst of hybrid, who dont see any problem in literally stealing food from mouths of poor children to buy themselves a sports car like they did in minnesota with the covid meals.
and of course nigger warlords galore in africa because people like this dominate there

on the other hand there are niggers in south east like tanzania and kenya who seem to be much more affable and maybe even capable of sustaining a society, some of them even warm and kind

so yeah it is definitely important which kind of nigger it exactly is, and some of them can be good. but im not an expert of what they're like since we seem to only get the worst of them here in europe. its all somalis and bantus and nigerians essentially, none of the good ones