70 days after Pearl Harbor, in mid February of 1942, Japan took over Singapore, Britain's most important base in the orient and said to be an impenetrable fortress. Japanese soldiers rode in on bicycles terrifying British officers into surrendering.It has been 82 days since the start of Trump's operation epic fury against Iran. Trump's USA has yet to seize Kharg island let alone any part of mainland Iran.
>>535535160The US has won every conventional war it has fought in and still hasn't fully commited to the war against Iran at all.
>>535535161America was behind 9/11
>>535535161So Trump is fighting a politically correct war? I thought his whole point was to end that.
It's hard to win a war when you don't know what the objective is
>>535535164Like Austrian campaign in the Balkan, 1788-1791
britain was a lot weaker than iran
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>>535535162Proof?
>>535535160>Trump's USA has yet to seize Kharg island let alone any part of mainland Iran.Is that a stated military goal?
>>535535161The United States has never defeated a peer in a 1v1 while Germany, Russia, Britain, France, Japan, and Iran all have.NOTE! Israel has never defeated a peer in a 1v1 and has lost multiple 1v1s to Egypt and Syria.
>>535535163>politically correct warWhat specifically does that mean?
because despite Trump being retarded enough to start a slap fight with Iran without really considering they could close the straight, he still knows that sending in a ground invasion is essentially political suicide especially with a midterm election coming up (which evne before the war was going to be an uphill battle for him), in other words its a case of attempting and failing to use different methods to beyond a solution that won't take long but will cause an uproar for an already unpopular conflict
>>535535160Americans got clowned aplenty in 1942, with the Philippines, Java Sea, Savo Island, and many other losing naval battles, but Singapore was strictly a Brit fuckup.
>>535535171A long lasting war where you can't fully commit due to political correctness and have to avoid civilian casualties etc. reducing military effectiveness. Which is what Trump criticized about previous middle east wars but is doing right now.
>>535535172Japan did a ground invasion of Singapore just fine, and they had to ship everyone in from Shanghai and Tokyo then fight through the Malaysian jungle. America has numerous well supplied bases right next to Iran.
>>535535174You take tweets made by politicians as truth?
>>535535175But is sending in a ground invasion a stated goal? Yes or no?
>>535535161>lose war>declare it was actually a UNconventional war [do NEVER ever never ever ask wtf that even is dough]>remain undefeated since 17Burger6 os something like thatGENIUS
>>535535176When Truman told the Japanese he would nuke them he wasn't lying. Trump has threatened to destroy Iranian civilization outright but has obviously been exposed as bluffing. Is the USA run by someone who is incapable of talking straight even once?
>>535535177Ground invasions are military operations not political goals. The stated political goal of america re: Iran is actually not well defined and keeps changing, from regime change to civilization destruction to restoring the status quo. Regardless, if a ground invasion can help support whatever this goal is, it should be done, unless if the US armed forces are incapable of one (which they appear to be).
>>535535179I mean you said it in your own post. Truman.
>>535535180>which they appear to beCircular logic. They don't appear to be able to do a ground invasion until they do?
>>535535182So Japan captured Singapore in 70 days while America can't capture kharg island in 80 days because ground invasion bad or something.
>>535535179Is the end to the biggest war in world history the same as polica actions of the modern world to you?
>>535535183But is a ground invasion a stated goal though? The Japanese made ground invasion blatant from the beginning. America not so
>>535535184Ok let's compare to previous US police actions when the USA wasn't as enshittifiedGeorge HW Bush took down Iraq in 40 daysGeorge W Bush launched operation iraqi freedom and captured Baghdad in 3 weeks
>>535535186Both of those operations had land invasion as as stated goals from the very beginning.
>>535535185Ground invasions are not goals. They are a means to achieve a goal. America obviously isn't achieving its goals right now.
>>535535187So Trump is failing to achieve his goals with Iran by not launching a ground invasion because ???
>>535535188What specifically are those goals?
>>535535162Sure, moishe
>>535535190Ask Trump. The goals keep changing from regime change to civilization destruction to just restoring the status quo.
>>535535160Because we were meant to be a country built on defense only. Offensive wars were basically Wilson's doing when he decided we should be world police.
>>535535160The USA is excellent at Jew and money. It's all that matters to own the world.
>>535535161Korea? Vietnam?
>>535535160You are so fucking stupid. Singapore is a British colony and America and pearl harbor just happened. 3 months later America would sink 4 Japanese carriers and Japan would be on the defensive for the entirety of the war. Singapore was part of their blitzkrieg in the south pacific out of range from any US fleets. US still came and protected Port Moresby in the battle of the coral sea before Midway.
>>535535192So if the goals keep changing why commit to a ground invasion if a goal doesn't require a ground invasion?
If OP wasn't such a stupid nigger he could at least mention the Philippines and Bataan death march as an early jap victory
>>535535967>Actually OP isn't just right on X he's also right on YLol
>>535535680Yes Singapore was backed by the British empire which was a world class superpower. Iran is backed by a failing Russia that's losing to Ukraine.
>>535535896Trump keeps changing the goals because he can't win. If he was winning he wouldn't have to move the goalposts.
>>535536354Japan surprised attacked all the colonies. There were barely any garrisons and most the British fleet in the pacific was spread out and outdated. Most ships were attacked at port by aircraft. They were fighting the battle of britain back home and couldn't help Singapore at the start of the pacific war.
