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3 questions for Gnostistists:

1- Is everyone born with a divine spark, or just some people?

2. Should man live with nature or dominate over it?

3. What is the current gameplan for defeating the Archons?
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Wew lad
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>>535692742
>What is the current gameplan for defeating the Archons?
You'll never get the answer from these gnostards. It's just a bunch of powertripping faggots who think they're better than everyone else but they'll never able to prove you that their beliefs are correct.
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I'm not a Gnostic, I'm a Christian. But I have read Against Heresies, so I can answer 2 of these:
1) Only some people. Gnostics are kind of like Calvinists in this regard. Limited Atonement type understanding. I believe all Gnostics taught this.
2) This varied among different sects. Some taught to be ascetic, other to embrace hedonism.
3) I don't remember what they said.

Many Gnostic leaders were kikes. They were probably all kikes, but many were openly jewish. Their "pleroma" sounds a lot like the Ein Sof crap in the kabbalah.
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>>535692742
Throw a brick.
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>>535692742
1. irrelevant
2. irrelevant, boils down to the same thing
3. acquire enlightenment, liberate from material prison, disregard everything else
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>>535692742
Real gnosticism isnt about defeating the hecking Archons thats pop culture subverted nonsense. True gnostic are simply in pursuit of truth and knowledge and collect all -isms religions and dialectics with no dogmatism only then can you start to see the truth.
> Divine spark
Everyone is born with it yes, but majority lose it through ideologues or dialectics devouring them turning them into pathological ideologue collectivists.
> Nature vs Modernity
Man should live in a balance between both for peak psychological health, Deventer for example.
> To defeat the "archons" you need to collect as much knowledge possible to prepare yourself for death that way no one can trick you, you need to have knowledge and be selfactualized into highest free will potential to do so.
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>>535696496
You're such a larper it disgusts me. There are only 2 definitions for "Gnostic":
-the pseudo-Christian cults of the post-Temple middle east. Also known as "Pseudo-Gnostics". They have beliefs. Those beliefs are written down.
-"True Gnostic", as defined by multiple Saints, which is an illuminated Christian.
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>>535692742
1. everyone including animals plants and fungi
2. ill-posed question. what do you mean by nature?
nature, natura in latin and physis in greek, is just reality, the real world.
if that's what you mean, then we (souls) should hijack it in order to kill the demiurge.
3. use your brain, read, figure it out. there's no recipe.
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>What is the current gameplan for defeating the Archons?
If you think you can le defeat the Archons with the power of reddit or 4chan or whatever then you don't understand anything about the nature of reality. This is their world, you are a captive here. They rule it completely. Your body is their instrument. There is a spark of the True World in you and this is what they seek to corrupt. For most people the spark isn't that strong, at most you will get a vague sense of unease and it is this that has ever propelled men to enlightenment. Some have it strong, and they will rail against them ceaselessly, but this world grinds them even harder than it does you.

But remember you can't "win", reclaim this earth, declare victory and live in this body thinking you "won". It is all the Demiurge's ploy, his own terms you're thinking in. In this world you will never win. This is central to practically every strand of Gnosis.
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>>535696610
>No true scotsman fallacy
kys
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>>535696891
>Gnostic just means whatever I want it to mean
Back to redd*t
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>>535696610
memeflags, in retrospect, lack the divine spark
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What am I supposed to do, or whatever, to break free from this material world and reuinite with the monad, I think, or achieve gnosis or enlightenment or whatever... Idk
I started reading the Nag Hammadi scriptures, and I got halfway through before I got bored. Just sounds like Bible fanfiction to me, desu
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>>535697042
Take a Bible quiz. If you immediately fail, you have empirical proof you do not have even an inkling of gnosis
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>>535696943
>Waaaaaaah, why won't you accept my definitions
>waaaaaah
lmao
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Our multidimensional bodies are Liquid Light Plasma and exist in the worlds of what scientists call dark matter or antimatter, that is lighter and higher frequency than dense matter and interfaces with the higher dimensions.

2000 year old Gnostic text, discovered in Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945, reveals the cosmic understanding that the brilliant light plasma at the central core of our Galaxy is actually a sentient intelligence.

Furthermore, these Gnostic texts tell us that the physical world we inhabit came into form as the intelligent expression of the plasma light, or 'ether', spiraling out from the Galactic Central Sun.

The Mayan Calendar are saying that our DNA will be "upgraded" (coded with intelligence) from the center of our Galaxy - the 'Greater Central Sun starting in dec 2012.

This holographic beam carries the remains of photon activity. When Earth is in alignment, it merges with higher dimensional parallel Earth, Tara. During this process the particles and antiparticles of these planets and their antiparallel planets are unified in certain specific ways. When these particles and antiparticles come together they create intense photonic activity which we know as the Photon Belt we are in now.
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>>535692742
1. douglas hoffstedder in ' i am a strange loop' posited that some souls are bigger than others with the simple mathmatics of 2x infinity is > 1x infinity . The spark is the scaffolding we build our souls with, I do not think they are all equal
2. mixture of both
3. we need to focus on defeating our earthly enemies first. kill the archon in yo head.
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>>535696891
“no true scotsman” isn’t actually fallacious. of course there are true “scotsman,” even in the literal sense
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By realizing they have no real power. They can only speak very convincing words to you using your voice.

In reality the archons are powerless they are just good at being tricksters that’s all.

So just have fun and fuck it we ball
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>>535692742
I don't think everyone has divine sparks in them. Golems are what we call psychopaths. No soul, no empathy. Not real humans.
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>>535692742
1. Divine spark is raw life energy, atoms are made of this in an abstract way.

2. Do your thing, be aware there's consequences for involving others wrongly.

3. Be patient and worry not more than immediately apparent concerns, address as needed.

There ya go, lad.
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>>535692742
1- No, in fact most aren't
2- False dichotomy, it exists to serve us but only if we operate from of the consciousness of universal interconnectivity of life and all attempts to dominate simultaneously weaken and enslave the soul to negative soul traps
3- Deprive them of their food, starting with ones self



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