The more I read about the elites and who runs the world the more depressed I get and it's hard for me to believe that forces of good do exist
>>536087078there are no forces of good on this board here either
>>536087078The universe is indifferent and human morality is a byproduct of the appreciation of our own mortality, not some objective fact of reality.
>>536087078They exist.
>>536087078Doing good things lead to good result. Doing bad things lead to bad result.Simple as that.
>>536087078People with human souls left Eden once they had the capacity to choose between good and evil. We're here to learn about good and evil. For that, we have to know what good is, and evil is. Evil is not being late to mass on Sunday, even if the priest says so. Evil is genocide, rape, murder, theft, torture. Evil is bribing your government, and trashing the oaths of office they made.
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>>536087380fuck off gook
>>536087525>offended by a basic bitch truthful statementHow much of a fucking cattle are you?
>>536087242How do you know that?
>>536087078>The more I read about the elites and who runs the world the more depressed I get and it's hard for me to believe that forces of good do existYou are presupposing that God has a duty to save everyone. That is simply not true. He loves some people, and others He does not. There is nothing inherently wrong with that.Some Christians use the verse below to argue that God loves everybody. However, the word "everyone" in that verse has a specific scope. It refers to those who believe in Him. The same principle applies to the word "all." Its meaning is determined by the context and the group being addressed, rather than automatically referring to every person without exception.>Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.>John 3:16>And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.>John 12:32See? If "everyone" meant every person without exception, then every person would be saved. If "all" meant every person without exception, then every person would be saved. Yet that is clearly not the case. The words have a scope that is determined by the context in which they are used.>But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father SEEKETH such to worship him.>John 4:23
>>536087640is abortion of black babies good or bad?
>>536087573So when Jeff ate kids and became powerful it was "good"?
>>536087380>Doing good things lead to good result.>Doing bad things lead to bad result.That is unbiblical of course.
>>536087078> Christians> good
>>536087078>Do the forces of good really exist or is it a cope?100% cope because everyone thinks they are the good guys.
>>536087242Nice kike propaganda.
Satan rules this world, but 'Be of Good Cheer, for I have overcome the World'John 16:33
>>536087743>Romans 2:6>God will repay each person according to what they have done.
>>536087815>Christians>goodYou're so low IQ that you don't realize the poster you marked never said Christians are good.
>>536087878>christianity isn't thongmi
>>536087734Power is a hierarchy, and I don't see anyone more powerful than me.
>>536087078He didn't ask us to forgive them. So by omission from that request, we can get revenge and fuck those jew bastards.
>>536087380>be good all my life>nothing to show for itdon't be good
>>536087078The longer I live the more convinced I'm that all those "goodness" is just a scam invented to keep pleb in check.
>>536087939>posts a verse that has nothing to do with what was saidYou do not know what you are talking about. The OP was talking about earthly things, not heavenly things. He said:>>536087078>The more I read about the ELITES>the more depressed I get>it's hard for me to believe that forces of good do existHe is implying that bad things often go unpunished on Earth. He never mentioned anything about the afterlife, yet you replied:>>536087380>Doing good things lead to good result.>Doing bad things lead to bad result.Which is a completely dumb comment. You literally ignored what OP said. He is talking about how Epstein raped little girls and got away with it, and you responded by saying that "doing good things lead to good results," when they clearly do not, and it's not even biblical.>Romans 2:6 Addresses what happens after we die, not on Earth.
>>536087640Contemplation of the One
>>536087078>The more I read about the elites and who runs the world the more depressed I get and it's hard for me to believe that forces of good do existThe real brainfuck of history is not that it's good vs evil or evil vs evil but usually good vs goodIt's necessary for good people to do terrible things to terrible people, or they will constantly do terrible things to good people, but most suffering in the world is caused when two groups of good people decide each other are terrible
>>536088213>never question Good and Evil>follow the pattern of a loser like a cattle flesh worshipper that you are all your life>become a loserYou get what you fucking deserve.>Romans 8:6>The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.
>>536087878Unlike saulstianity
>>536087078>lust provoking imageglad the bots are this obvious
>>536087078only God is good.until he comes again evil rules the world.
>>536087078That you even are about to demonstrates the force of good operating within you. If you embody good, then good exists in you. This is the spiritual challenge the world offers you. If you give up, your light has gone out. Don’t give up, anonBe good and know that good exists in you.
>>536088268Bad things always get punished. 7 deadly sins all lead to suffering.The glutton get fat, the drunkard go broke.Only the strong can live.>Proverbs 23:21>For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.
>>536087078I'm forced to believe they do because I know that evil is bottomless and therefore the opposite must be true.
>>536088476a god that lets evil rule isn't good.
>>536088555*that you even care about thisPhone posting
>>536088640humans love the evil one instead of God
>>536088556consequences aren't punishments. gluttons don't always get fat. drunkards don't always go broke. happens for some, not others, it's not a universal rule because there is no god punishing them.
>>536088721doesn't explain why god lets evil rule.
>>536088731It's a universal rule. Actions come with consequences. Saying otherwise is just an error.A house of card is destined to crumble.
>>536088797would you repent and turn back to God if life was only good? no, you would stay in your sins and die.God uses evil for the good.
>>536087078AmenThere are ways that seemeth right to a man, but their end is deathProverbs 14:12
>>536087078That’s all relative, you’re having trouble with it cause you’re trying to turn it into some holy war with fixed sides, that’s a larp. There’s no cosmic popo of goodness that’s gonna make things right for you while you cry in a corner.
>>536088556>Bad things always get punished>7 deadly sins all lead to sufferingScripture itself refuses that kind of tidy moral arithmetic, and reality does not cooperate with it either. Ecclesiastes 7:15 says in substance that there are righteous people who perish in their righteousness and wicked people who prolong their life in their evil. Ecclesiastes 8:14 goes further, saying there are righteous people who get what the wicked deserve and wicked people who get what the righteous deserve. Ecclesiastes 9:11 removes the fantasy of moral certainty entirely, stating that time and chance happen to all, even Psalm 73 describes the distress of seeing the wicked prosper while the faithful suffer, and only later finds resolution in perspective, not in observable justice.>Proverbs 23:21This is not biblical law. It is a proverb being misused as if it were physics. Proverbs is built on observed moral patterns in ordinary life. It speaks in general truths about how behavior tends to unfold within a stable society. It has nothing to do with what you are saying.>Only the strong can live.Jesus explicitly elevates the weak, the meek, and the persecuted in Matthew 5. Paul goes further in 1 Corinthians 1:27, saying God chooses what is weak in the world to shame the strong. So biblically, strength is not the currency of survival or moral worth.
>>536088880I said they have consequences, those consequences aren't proof of punishment. punishment implies someone doing the punishing.>drunkards go broke>gluttons get fatare not universal.the error is believing they are universal.
>>536089056Ecclesiastes was a whining loser. Why do you listen to him as if he is a God?
>>536087296/thread>>536087078Next question OP
>>536088890... yes? I would. I would love a god that uses good instead of evil, not a god that uses evil. there is no good there.your logic is satanic.
>>536089111>just ignore the bible goyim>take me at my word
>>536089101The punishment is imbue in the creation. It's encoded in physical reality itself. Doing bad things lead to bad result.Doing good things lead to good result.
>>536089216>repeats the same phrase after being refuted by reality >>536089056
>>536089213Who is Ecclesiastes in the shit you qouted, huh?
>>536087078>it's hard for me to believe that forces of good do exist1. most religions are "prosperity" religions.- do "this" and you'll be rewarded with-- karma-- wealth-- afterlife2. real good not only comes "at a cost" (you might actually be punished for your efforts)- I don't think there are 'forces for good' backup.i'm not religious btw.picrel
>>536087418Life is good. This is the ultimate axiom, from which all the more intricate economics of morality arise. Source: gut instinct
>>536089271>calls the Bible shit
>>536089173>your logic is satanic.>20 As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people[a] should be kept alive, as they are today.your problem is that you think with your human mind, when God ways are above mans ways.8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord.9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
>>536089173>... yes?and no, you wouldnt because there would be no reason to repent.
>>536089216>Doing bad things lead to bad result.>Doing good things lead to good result.oversimplification and not true.evil doesn't always face bad earthly consequences.good isn't always rewarded with good earthly consequences.>consequences after they dieis pure cope and fanfiction.
>>536089360Sinplification is the Truth.Might makes Right. Power is Absolute.Your definition of Good and Evil is garbage.
>>536089321>the evil god said he was actually doing good by allowing evil>ur too human to understand god's ways when he allows evilno wonder they call you a flock. this is evil kike shit.
>>536089356I would repent because I see the good of god. why would I repent from doing evil when the god is allowing evil? it sounds like that's what he wants to happen.you don't understand the logic of good because you are gargling kike nonsense.
>>536089266>>536089056>Scripture itself refuses that kind of tidy moral arithmetic>EcclesiastesAll of what you quoted is God's answer to "why does it seem like good people often get punished and bad people often get away with it?"The key word is "seem" though. Suffering, along with happiness, are conditions of Earthly existence, like hunger is a condition of eating and ignorance is a condition of knowledge. Nowhere is anyone promised an Erthly life free of the negative components of existence
>>536089440you haven't refuted the truth: good isn't rewarded and evil isn't punishedyou want it to be that simple because ignorance is bliss.your definition of good and evil is based on the kike lies.
>>536087078Maybe you should stop believing everything you read online dumbo
>>536089464>God needs to agree with me and my feelings>>536089517>I would repent because I see the good of god.maybe look at the ultimate good of God taking your place on the cross for your sins?and still you refuse to repent.>why would I repent from doing evil when the god is allowing evil? it sounds like that's what he wants to happen.lmao, youre on the same spiritual level as kikes.
>>536087418>razing muslim settlements in the holy land is le bad!lmao funny since you bitch-made incels always call for new crusades against muslims.
Religion is the ultimate cope for midwits who think death isn't the total end of your consciousness.
>>536087078Does anyone have the picture of the new Hasidic Jew tunnels in New York? There were 6 guys in there for like 2 hours, if I remember correctly.
>>536089589The powerful is Good, and the weak is Evil.God Almighty is the Apex, therefore, God is the ultimate Good.Can't accept that?Tell me then.What is Good?
>>536089522>Suffering, along with happiness, are conditions of Earthly existenceThis is literally what OP stated, he is talking about earthly conditions, refer to this >>536088268Why are you trying so hard to prove that reality is not what it is? Why do you want us to ignore what we see with our own eyes? Reality is clearly not fair, from beginning to end. God is not fair either in the sense that He treats everyone equally. He does not. Not everyone is given the same chances.
>>536089690this is jewish gook logic. kill yourself shitskin
>>536089690>The powerful is Good, and the weak is Evil.
>>536089780My logic is pretty simple.
>>536089824Correct.
>>536089869>My logic is pretty simple.Here is your logic.
>>536089824Whats your favorite phonk
Whenever I see a kike in a thread I'll randomly post the content of their crap book from now on. They don't seem to like being exposed.
>>536089923That's your logic. You always push your worthless shit to me, and think of them as Me. Why is that?
>>536089714>Why do you want us to ignore what we see with our own eyes?You're not seeing with your eyes but perceiving with your mind, through a thoroughly skewed mental filter>Not everyone is given the same chances.Literally everyone is given the same chances, you fool. You're an immortal being with free will and a Creator who loves you and is interested to see what choices you make>>536089869kek based
>>536087078Not in a secular environment, especially not in the 21st century, where every vice has been normalized and marketed as fun and entertainment. There is simply too much temptation.Removing the religious from their role in keeping ruling powers in check was a mistake. If your rulers are not inspired by God and guided by religious men, then they will be inspired by Satan and guided by merchants.
>>536089869>>536090024> larpy movie clips.alll pretty 1-dimensional ideologies.
>>536087078> forces of goodJust grow the fuck up already!
>>536090502It's the ideology of an omnipotent God. Resistance is pointless. God will always get what God wants.
>>536087078>for they not know this isn't another casual Friday for Roman soldiers in the backwater of an empire
>>536087188The only force of good is my cock in your mouth cause it makes me feel good.
>>536087242>human morality is a byproduct of mortalityNo, human morality is so we have some order and not cannibal chaos with childbrides and murder for fun and population never rising.You need morality for order, civilization and subsequently population rising so you have a big strong society that can control the land.
>>536087078Yes. And much like Jesus they are opposed by kikes, richfags, and warmongers who want people divided and living in sin.You worship moloch.
>>536088405at least you admit globe earth is pagan nonsense
>>536087418You can't say that it's completely razed cause it's not completely accurate and it'd be antisemitic.
>>536087460>Death is so magnificent if people knew they'd off themselves en masse. Shhh though, don't let them know or they'll all kill themselves.
>>536089673The idea that existence continues after death is no more ridiculous than the idea that things exist vs not exist in the first place. Don't you ever look around and think how WEIRD everything is, that it all exists and is the way it is? What makes you think death would be any less weird?
>>536091119That's why it was called the Dark ages and if it didn't end you wouldn't have any of this tech to type your retarded crap like the ultimate cretin that you are.
>>536091287> exist vs not exist Based on observation, if you throw observation out the window then use other words.
>>536090003sand bums banding together and there were not deemed useful as slaves and pushed out in the desert, deliriously making up some ridiculous cope while starving and with heat stroke
>>536089673It's like karma never works for these losers and they're always like>nonono, pie in the sky, my pie is in the sky, I do not care
>>536087925>Satan rules this worldthis is precisely why the goyim are losing.jews have their own native ethnic religion that is all about themselves that motivates them to conquer the goyim.They failed with the Romans and got BTFOd so they created christianity that is anitmaterialist, anti-life, anti-power, suicidal and pro death, pro evil and released it on the goyim and now we have mutts like this one that says they need to abandon the material world, abandon the real world, and live in delusion.jews have made goyim worship a jew and hate life.
>>536087078>Do the forces of good really exist or is it a cope?Yeah but it seems like they mostly fell for the pacifism psyop. The ONLY way to thwart evil is with violence, you can't rationalize with evil and you can't negotiate with it, all you can do is eradicate it completely. This is why the forces of evil have worked so hard to establish nonsense ideas like peaceful protest and calling the police when faced with a life or death threat, they need to have a monopoly on violence and you need to be so averse to carrying out violence that you'd literally let yourself be subjugated and killed before you take action to defend yourself, that way they can exploit you indefinitely with no chance of repercussion.
>>536087640Look around you
>>536089690>smug larp>tranime>vagueposting>reddit spacing>>536089869>MY LIFE IS LIKE A VIDEO GAME movie quoteI can smell you from my screen disgusting shitskin christcuckalso>I can kill babies. therefore I am good. babies are evilyou and your entire extended family needs to be immediately put down and fed to stray dogs desu
Do bad things, you get rich and live in prosperity for generationsDo good things, you're a slave, never own property, get sick and you end up on the streets.I'm starting to think the whole morality shenanigans was a plot to convince people to stop lying/cheating and comply to the orders of those who do.
>>536092243My life is literally a game, and you are all just NPC that existed to serve Me.
>>536092476What's good about being a lying cunt?
Anyone else still here over 30? I had a mixed childhood where I was sheltered part of the time and abused the rest of the time. I got away from all of it as an adult and I was eventually pulled right back in by the same kind of people (including the same individuals in some cases). I have also made and lost millions and this point, which is apparently hard for the average pleb to even comprehend. What I've learned from this essentially amounts to the facts that people don't change and that people are inherently corrupt or corruptible. It seems to require a lot of constant effort to rise above whatever impulses, tendencies and systems keep us where we are. It took me years of mindfulness exercises to better myself and when I finally ran into some of the losers I escaped from, they just found a way to drag me down again. I'm currently in the process of building back up for the nth time.I don't know how adult men are supposed supposed trust in this world. I've never met someone I could fully rely on to remain loyal. Parents, friends, lovers, they all eventually turn when the price is right or when it's convenient, to say nothing of when there's a cost or sacrifice associated with maintaining a relationship.Am I alone in this experience? I feel like the better I've done, the more those same people who set out to cause me harm in the beginning wanted to tear me down. So many people even just get sadistic pleasure from adding a little kick to your ass on your way down, seemingly purely for the pleasure of doing so, even if the only benefit to them is a momentary rush and the cost to you is large and life altering
>>536092586yes shitskinanon your life like a videogame and you're trying hard to beat the stage all the while you're collecting coins.But in order to escape the matrix you need to wake up. And in order to wake up, you need to stop dreaming. By going against the system. You can only wake up by killing yourself.
>>536092784God Almighty is literally my wife. There is no point in me in escaping the Matrix. What's the point? I love being here living with God.
>>536092691>I don't know how adult men are supposed supposed trust in this world. I've never met someone I could fully rely on to remain loyal. Parents, friends, lovers, they all eventually turn when the price is right or when it's convenient, to say nothing of when there's a cost or sacrifice associated with maintaining a relationship.Sounds like you lack a strong sense of self, which is necessary to avoid 99% of the trouble shitty people can cause, but most importantly is necessary to be able to forgive good people when they, as humans do, fuck upIn sperg-friendly language, social life is an iterative (key word there) Prisoner's Dilemma for which the optimal strategy is now known: Cooperate at first, then just match opponent's last moveBe good to people by default, and keep being good to them as long as they're good back. If they screw you, slap them equally as hard, but if they then return to being good to you, be good back. Usually one correction is all people needThis saves you 99% of the emotional exhaustion and stress of evaluating people and gives you the correct outcome 90+% of the time. Streamlines life immensely
>>536091119At least you admit that you get conned by Jewish schizoids
>>536093211How does this apply to, for example, an inheritance dispute, or something even murkier such as custody of funds during a medical emergency? This kind of thing routinely rips families apart. I would like to take your advice to heart because I certainly could use any productive tips I can get, but life seems much more nuanced than this. How does a strong sense of self mitigate someone's loyalty faltering in the face of financial gain? I can understand setting and maintaining boundaries, but what is it beyond that?
>>536087078Forces of good don't exist. It's everyone's ideals vs other ideals. You are your own best friend, everyone you think is your friend is actually some dude with shared interests. You decide what you wanna do. The elites are all child sacrificing pedos?? well, what are you gonna do?? immigrate elsewhere, start your own company, pursue hobbies, etc? it's up to you entirely.
>>536087078No. The older I get, the more I've come to realize this. There really is no good people. There are people who occasionally do good, but that is the best you can hope for.Meanwhile, people that are straight up evil, exist, and are in power.
>>536087078There is something beyond this physical realm.
>>536094014The only way to do defeat evil is to become evil and go after those faggots.
>>536094804>Defeating evil requires being evilThis is retarded Batman logic. The whole "if you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world stays the same" bullshit that holds no weight whatsoever. Killing an evil person who causes harm to others around them is not the same as killing an innocent person and it's not evil. What's evil is allowing evil people to continue harming society. Gotham City is a perpetual shithole precisely because Batman thinks the only solution to evil is morally wrong and that upholding his misguided morality is somehow more important than creating an objectively better world.
>>536087078Not on Earth.
>>536087078We allowed, through naive kindness, demons to rule the world. What you call elites, I call parasites. Get rid of them and the world can heal again.
the forces of good exist, it's just that you're not good, so you are not part of them, you might even see them as evil.
>>536087078Yes but they are horrendously outnumbered.
>>536093940>How does this apply to, for example, an inheritance dispute, or something even murkier such as custody of funds during a medical emergency?Lots of lawyers in my family and this is the #1 thing that hurts relationships. The only thing that helps is "get everything in writing" - you'd be amazed at how much people's memories genuinely (and I mean they genuinely believe it, not just trying to scam) change when there's big amounts of money, meaning hopes and dreams coming true, involvedAny cop or lawyer or psych teacher can tell you that human memory is hilariously unreliable, if we're not Mandela Effecting between universes then most of what we think is our objective recall of events is really delusional hallucinations of things that happened differently or not at all. When people's hopes and dreams are on the line it's 1000x worse>loyalty falteringThis might be a bad way to interpret what could be a genuine good-faith misunderstanding, which is why it's important to get everything in writingBasically most humans don't understand how terrible we are at remembering things, and it seems like the subconscious is happy to supply completely fake memories that support things we really desperately want. It doesn't mean people are disloyal or evil, just human
>>536087078>Do the forces of good really exist or is it a cope?Objectively speaking, they exist. It's not someone's imagination. What their status is, I cannot say with certainly. Somewhere between "on the losing side" and "getting absolutely massacred" is my guess.
>>536087078>more depressed I getThe point is that they are more depressed than you
