This is why they hate the Church
>>536133959based Popethey will hate him because he speaks the truth
None of you gave a single shit about this guy beforeYou had never even heard his nameBut now suddenly that a bunch of guys you also have never heard of gave him a title you're familiar with, suddenly you hang on his every wordDoes this seem rational to you?
>>536133959You lost, Christranny!https://www.npr.org/2026/04/13/nx-s1-5783008/trump-pope-leo
>>536134109he's the leader of The Church, nigganot some eceleb ffs
>>536134165>fat dodiwhy should anyone listen to a fatty?
>>536134165But he doesn't lead you because you want him to but rather because some guys you don't know said he shouldWhatever he said before no matter if it was the same as he's saying now or totally different factored into your opinion of himThis is abnormal
>>536133959He doesn't want for people to measure human performance because it would prove his pet niggers are incompatible with any civilization.
We need to mass "convert" everyone to Judaism. Judaism allows for legal rape and genocide.I'm not against all rape and genocide, just ILLEGAL rape and genocide. I'm all for LEGAL rape and genocide.We need to redpill incel cattle on whom to target.
>>536134463Silencio!
In an ideal world, we need to persecute the church. Probably half of the church is sodomites, secretly pushing the gay agenda/being part of the international gay conspiracy.
>>536134109You unironically said this in reference to the pope? Hubris
>>536134109I'm pretty sure everyone has heard of the Pope. He is the representative of God on Earth.
>>536135382What I'm saying is that you had never heard of him before he was declared the Catholic Pope
>>536133959didnt the catholic chuch terroize everyone with grim visions of hell if they dont pay up & thretened to burn heretics at the stake for asking too many questions & doing their own research? the sheer audacity to present themselves as the good guys. were it not for luther the horror would have continued to this day.
>>536134109Yes. Fuck off, heathen.
as a proud tradcath christbro i affirm my true feminine soul every single day by keeping my worthless little clitty locked tight in that cold steel cage while tyrone wrecks my boypussy with his massive veiny black cock first then switches to brutal double fisting me so deep his forearms disappear up my ruined shithole and my prolapsed rosebud hangs out like a pink sock covered in thick lube and ass mucus. my prostate gets battered raw until endless sticky ropes of sissy precum pour out nonstop gluing the sensitive top of my penis head completely to the inside of the metal cage bars so the skin stretches and tears every time it tries to twitch. the dried precum and skin fuse together into one painful mess making the cage bite deeper into my shriveled balls and the raw head of my clitty until any movement feels like someone is slicing the frenulum with a razor. i cannot pull the cage free without ripping chunks of my own penis skin off in bloody strips so instead i swallow fistfuls of estrogen pills to soften everything up make my tits swell bigger and my balls shrink even tinier while i beg tyrone to ram both fists in harder twisting them around inside my guts until my belly bulges outward and my gaping asshole farts out wet sloppy bubbles of cum lube and prostate milk that splatter across the bed. the burning agony from the glued skin on the top of my penis mixed with the mind melting pleasure of getting my insides rearranged turns me into a drooling brainrotted mess moaning bible verses about submission because this is the real tradcath christpilled way. true tradition means weak christbros like me fully surrender our male bodies to superior alpha bulls and let them remake us into leaking cumdump holes for gods natural order. every extra dose of estrogen makes the glue between my clitty head and the cage tighter and more painful so the metal grinds against the raw exposed skin while tyrone laughs and stretches my hole wider than ever.
>>536133959>>536134109>>536137381Catholic here.>>536134109 — That's exactly the point. We don't follow the Pope because he's charismatic or gave a TED talk. We follow him because he holds the office Christ instituted: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church" (Matt 16:18). The respect is for the chair, not the man. That same instinct is why you respect the presidency regardless of who occupies it — except this office was instituted by God, not a constitution. You thinking this is "abnormal" is just modern individualism rotting your instincts.>>536137381 — Pop history. The Inquisition was more lenient than secular courts of the era, had rules of evidence, and in Spain over 350 years executed roughly 1-2% of the ~150,000 cases. Compare: French Revolution's Reign of Terror killed 17,000 in ONE year. Atheist regimes of the 20th century: 100+ million. Your "Luther saved us" meme is ironic — his revolt directly produced the Thirty Years' War (8 million dead), centuries of sectarian slaughter, and the 40,000-denomination chaos this board mocks daily. Protestantism didn't end religious coercion — it transferred it from the Church to the state. See: Henry VIII, Cromwell, German princes.The OP is right. The world's elites hate the Church because it's the only institution that tells them they answer to something higher than themselves. That's why it's outlasted every empire that tried to destroy it.Christus vincit.
>>536133959He won't DO shit though. It's all talk with the Popes.
>>536133959the same can be said when your citizenship means nothing and you invite the entire fucking world to live among you and ignore all their crimes you insufferable dumb fuck heretic "pope", obnoxious bloviating ameritard faggot>what christian genocides, we love our muslim neighbors!death to the papacy!
>>536138943>That same instinct is why you respect the presidency regardless of who occupies itspeak for yourself, its called 'herd instinct' the inability to reject false authority because of peer pressure of impressive show of might & power like trump. free men are kings in their own right & see through all the worldly splendor. as a feebleminded pleb who needs external authority to tell you what to do i can imagine all the gold & fancy structures in the vatican, cathedrals are indeed awe-inducing. luthers revolt was the rebellion of free norse men against the sheep men.we free people need the cool air of freedom whereas types like you need the comfy caring warmth of the institution which is suffocating for us. alfred rosenberg writes in his 'mythos of the 20th century' that its the lower races who desperately need a leader. consider too how southamericans worship marry, the mother, the quintessential material entity the infant encounters first upon his arrival in this world, she who nurtures, gives matter (mommy-milkers), mother-mater-material-matrix are all related words, hence the simpler races need to explain heaven for themselves in material terms, just as muslims imagine heaven not being some incomprehensible transcendental realm but only a harem with a few dozen virgins, so because sex in this world feels really good, heaven must be that x 100. complete troglodyte spirituality, jews dont even have heaven & want to create their garden of eden down here on earth. dont get me started with idol worship, things must be shown to the cattle, otherwise they cant made to *see*.besides, the kingdom is within, we need only consult our own conscience to know if we are right with god. self-reliant americans naturally are protestants. you would not even know where to start looking for 'god within'.
>>536138943>The world's elites hate the Church because it's the only institution that tells them they answer to something higher than themselvesthat's cute you think that
>>536138943>Compare: French Revolution's Reign of Terrorso godless communists?>Thirty Years' War (8 million dead)yeah like hitlers liberation movement caused all the forces of the devil to gang up on germany, its not a sign of being wrong when your actions cause evil to show itself like that. its a sign of being right in fact. here again the typical sheep like attitude of catholics becomes apparent>if you only kept a low profile so much pain & suffering could have been avoided, why dont you germans just submit to vatican authority, its so simple, just be like the bride of christ, simply open your legs for big vatican cock & you will be spared the troubletotal cuck low t mentality. luther was fed up with your submissive feminine spiritual tranny bullshit.>just dont move, then you wont feel the chains!very clever.„Den deutschen Mannen gereicht´s zum Ruhm, Dass sie gehasst das Christentum.“ — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>536133959I'm liking this new pope.
>>536138943>Protestantism didn't end religious coercion — it transferred it from the Church to the state. See: Henry VIII, Cromwell, German princes.yeah & lets not forget - hitler.
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>>536133959He is so 100% correct wowOur corporate overlords treat us like cattle and expect too much of us: https://cdn.videy.co/sYaSxQ7U1.mp4
>>536139734>>536140173You are well read and I respect that. Rosenberg, Goethe, the Nietzschean frame. I have read them too. Let me engage the ideas.Your free man who is king in his own right sounds noble. The problem is that a man who answers to nothing but his own conscience is not free. He is enslaved to his ego. An unformed conscience is weather, not kingship. The Catholic submits his conscience to be FORMED by Scripture, Tradition, reason, and 2000 years of saints smarter and holier than us. That is not sheep behavior. That is recognizing you are not the measure of all things.You mock Mary and incarnational spirituality as lower race. But the Incarnation is the scandal of Christianity. God became flesh. Mary held God in her arms. The Eucharist is actual flesh and blood. Your Protestantism is more gnostic than you realize. It wants a purely spiritual, interior, invisible faith that never touches matter. That is not Christianity. That is Manichaeism with a Lutheran accent.Luther did not liberate. He substituted one Pope for 40000 popes. Every man his own infallible interpreter. You call that freedom. I call it chaos wearing a crown.The kingdom is within, yes. But Christ also said upon this rock I will build My Church. You cannot have the interior kingdom without the exterior Church. Severing them is not freedom. It is death.
>>536138943>. We follow him because he holds the office Christ instituted: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church" (Matt 16:18).lol waht about the infallability doctrine? what about the fact that the popes word must be right if it contradicts christ? jews can go to heaven now apparently, because the pope just felt like it must be like that. hence why luther went back to the rule book (sola scripture) bc catholics were just ignoring the bible effectively.fun fact: for caths meat eating was prohibited on friday so mcdonalds created the mcfish, since fish are considered not to originate from 'dirty' sexual acts but people in the past believed fish came from 'spontaneous generation' thus 'clean' (or kosher), because they never saw fish reproduce, after a time the pope allowed meat eating on friday afterall, the catholics just followed that arbitrary command without rhyme or reason, so thanks catholics for the mcfish i guess. it appears the ppl just need any law to follow no matter what it is & some authority that gives their lives structure, it could be anything, based on fact or myth, nietzsche famously said that a made-up story is not necessary any worse than a factual one, both can serve important functions within society.
>>536138943>his revolt directly produced the Thirty Years' War (8 million dead)threads on here being created:>hitler killed x dozens of millions of white people>if hitler did not chimp out the world would be a better place today & nationalism & race would not be a dirty wordsound familiar?>then one day, for no reason at all, people adopted protestantism.same exact rhetoric, the corrupt ruling class considers any opposition sin & blames the rebels for the wars they themselves unleashed.
>>536140598>>536140848Papal infallibility is the most misunderstood doctrine. It does not mean the Pope cannot be wrong about anything. It means that in very specific, rare circumstances (speaking ex cathedra on faith and morals), the Holy Spirit protects him from error. This has been invoked exactly twice in history: the Immaculate Conception (1854) and the Assumption (1950). It is not whatever the Pope feels like.The Jews and salvation point is a misreading. The Church has always taught salvation comes through Christ alone. It also teaches that God's mercy is not limited to visible Church membership and that we do not judge individual souls. That is not new. It is basic theology.Sola scriptura is self-defeating. The Bible does not teach sola scriptura. The Church compiled the Bible. Luther removed books from the canon, proving the problem: who decides what Scripture is? If you say the individual, you have 40000 denominations. If you say the Church, welcome back.The Filet-O-Fish example proves the opposite of what you think. Friday abstinence was a discipline, not a dogma. The Church has authority to bind and loose (Matt 16:19). Disciplines change. Doctrines do not. Distinguishing between them is exactly what the Magisterium is for. Your Nietzsche point proves mine: if made-up stories and factual ones are equally useful, then you have no way to know which is which without an authority outside yourself. That authority is the Church.To >>536140848: the Thirty Years War was not the Church punishing rebels. It was what happens when you remove the one institution that could arbitrate between Christian princes and replace it with each prince being his own pope. The war was not persecution of a righteous movement. It was the predictable consequence of a theological revolution that destroyed all binding authority. That is diagnosis, not blame.
>>536138943>The Inquisition was more lenient than secular courts of the era,yeah but only *after* it subjugated all the pagans with the sword & created an atomsphere of dread that everyone just shut up about their 'heretical' views. only after the pagans learned to behave how the church demanded of them they loosened the leash a bit & dialed down the violence. no one adopted catholicism voluntarity, whole germanic tribes were eradicated for rejecting romes rule. dont give me that 'peaceful church' bs, they wanted to conquer the world with christianity & establish one rule that should apply to all nations & ages, which contradicts the natural racial inclinations of castly different peoples all around the world, it had to fail. same with birtish colonialism trying to civilize the nigger & hindu, the same way american imperialism will eventually crumble, the world doesnt want their export slop culture, democracy, mcdonalds, feminism, jew & nigger worhsip etc.>whats so wrong with out great worldview, why doesnt everyone just accept it>Matthew 16:26>For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? all those greedy empires gave their soul away for worldly power & hence why god always smites them down like clockwork.catholics are like agents with double loyalty among the peoples, akin to the jews, the catholic lore is written in stone, they cant accept any other leader but the pope & have but one country & that is the vatican, hence their fierce opposition to hitler. any catholic if first catholic & only on second or third place, a german, italian, american, english.
>>536141092>Papal infallibility is the most misunderstood doctrine. It does not mean the Pope cannot be wrong about anything. It means that in very specific, rare circumstances (speaking ex cathedra on faith and morals),absolving jews from their blood-sin is a bit much wouldnt you say. god might work in mysterious ways but those ways are not *that* mysterious.>speaking ex cathedrahaving all the attention from & authority over millions indeed does evoke a sense of confidence in people, its mere self-importance of fallible men though. give any individual enough power & they will feel like god.*not* being the center of the world & still fighting compelled by the holy spirit is more of a sign of being 'chosen'. luther, hitler, joan of arc, all those individuals winged by their faith managing to start such huge movements from nothing & change the world, thats the bright truth cutting through all worldly power that was built up over centuries by material men, elevating hearts & thus gaining momentum, not through threats, numbers or military power, by mere traction of the message.
>>536138943>Atheist regimes of the 20th century: 100+ million. Your "Luther saved us" meme is ironic — his revolt directly produced the Thirty Years' War (8 million dead), centuries of sectarian slaughter, and the 40,000-denomination chaos this board mocks daily.thats merely the birth pains of a new age. better a horrible end than endless horror. the catholic church was suffocating any free spirit. in the long run the church caused more creeping constant unease than sudden bursts of violence for 1,5 centuries. better a righteous war than a hypocritical peace that constantly boils under the surface.
>>536133959My cult leader cares more than your cult leader.
>>536133959Based Pope and I'm not catholic. But we are brothers in Christ.
>>536134109Hes correctly interpreting the Bible for once. That's the based part.
Just so people here know, the current pope is butt buddies with that WEF gigakike so take that however you will.
>>536140410hitler came & served a higher good that being his people & nation, cant holiness adhere to those things? absolutely. bach created music that refreshes the soul & brings joy without excreting direct force on the world, in their own fields men can hear their unmistakable calling. varying from age to age, serving god in this phenomenal world can manifest in many different shapes. if god works through you, you just know it.>long cath traditionwhy should not something fresh & revolutionary be as valuable as a long upheld culture that has become stale? one should not stick to walking the false path just because one has already treaded it for such a long time. thats the sunken cost fallacy. god is timeless & incorporeal, any duration of time is but a blink of an eye to him, here again you seem to be too impressed by the historical dimension of the movement. one does not consider children worth less than adults categorically. shoudl we respect the jews for chugging on in their wicked ways for 4 millenial already? they are the perhaps the most tenacious, disciplined & resourceful bunch of people in the world. if we were to admire longevity & persistence than its them we would have to take notes from, the jews who fight the insurmountable forces of god like madmen. the jews have accumulated all the worldly power & as materialists thats their justification for rule, they dont know any better, out of nowhere jesus emerges with no power or wealth & points to their fallacy & how they are wrong in the eyes of god, the jew naturally cant stand this, all that he has sacrificed, conspired against the whole world for centuries, forced himself to completely hide his true nature in the presence of goys, now that all should have been for nothing? he could not have that ofc, thus he crucified the truth. killing the messenger so no voice reminds him of his worst of mistakes.
>>536140410>You cannot have the interior kingdom without the exterior Church.what a strange notion, just as god is not literally *in* the church, he is not literally in the religious paintings & sculptures. if the core of faith is lost no church will be a substitute for its lack, the institution will be mere stones piled upon one another, your inner wealth lets you see the beauty in the world, without your impulse the world is like nothing. any inner kingdom precedes the earthly one, mind over matter, not the other way around. before churches people were religious too. the tower of babel parable is about mechanically accumulating enough worldly possessions & luxuries that at one point one will transcend into the heavenly realm, thats exactly what jews hope, if every soul is enslaved, when they own all the riches, then god will grant them the access to heaven like some sort of reward (yhwh is truly a retarded deity). they are in for a suprise. how they would kvetsh, kick & scream when its still not enough. we wont let it happen ofc but it would be so satisfying to see the jews fail in their conquest, like one sees a stubborn child get harmed by acting against the parents advice.
>>536141092>The Church has always taught salvation comes through Christ alone.until it didnt, but thats just the magical papal chair compelling the pope to say nice things about the jews for some mysterious reason i guess.
>>536141092>then you have no way to know which is which without an authority outside yourself.why not elevate ones heart to god directly in childlike innocence? being in the immediate presence of the living god, how much more authority or confirmation does one need?
>>536145097"Do not misunderstand me; nothing is further from my mind than to insinuate that Catholics are not loyal and loving to their Church. On the contrary, no Church in the world knows how to captivate people as well as this one. It is the great expert of the human heart, the infinitely loving caregiver of those who are ill in body and soul, the incomparable giver of comfort; like a mother, it cradles us poor, lonely children in its arms, supports the wavering will to do good, lifts up the sinner, and in its mysteries lifts us above ourselves. But while we Protestants - who confess with Luther that "the material of faith is the will" - rush forward with Promethean boldness to fetch the eternal light of the knowledge of God from heaven for ourselves, whereupon we very often run out of strength and fall to the ground like Icarus, this effort is neither required nor even permitted for Catholics. Hence a completely different disposition, which - in paradoxical contrast to the teachings of the popes and councils - manifests itself as great tolerance, broad-mindedness, and indifference."Houston Stewart Chamberlain
>>536145269german original:"Man mißverstehe mich nicht; nichts liegt mir ferner, als zu insinuieren, die Katholiken hingen nicht mit Treue und Liebe an ihrer Kirche. Im Gegenteil, keine Kirche der Welt versteht es so wie diese, an sich zu fesseln. Sie ist die große Kennerin des Menschenherzens, die unendlich liebreiche Pflegerin der an Leib und Seele Erkrankten, die unvergleichliche Trostesspenderin; wie eine Mutter wiegt sie uns arme, einsame Menschenkinder in ihren Armen, stützt den wankenden Willen zum Guten, richtet den Sünder auf, hebt uns in ihren Mysterien über uns selber hinaus. Während wir Protestanten aber — die wir mit Luther bekennen: „des Glaubens Materia ist der Wille" in prometheischer Kühnheit hinanstürmen, um selber das ewige Licht der Gotteserkenntnis vom Himmel uns zu holen, wobei gar häufig uns die Kräfte ausgehen und wir, wie Ikarus, zu Boden fallen, ist diese Kraftanstrengung beim Katholiken weder erfordert, noch überhaupt gestattet. Daher eine völlig andere Gemütsrichtung, die — im paradoxen Gegensatz zu den Lehren der Päpste und Konzilien sich als große Toleranz, Weitherzigkeit, Indifferenz kundgibt."Houston Stewart Chamberlain
>>536133959>expectation to performThat's easy Mr. Pope. Don't perform!Just don't! See them seethe.
>>536141092>The Jews and salvation point is a misreading. The Church has always taught salvation comes through Christ alone. It also teaches that God's mercy is not limited to visible Church membership and that we do not judge individual souls. That is not new. It is basic theology.Bullshit. >"Since God has never revoked his covenant with his people Israel, there cannot be different paths or approaches to God’s salvation. The theory that there may be two different paths to salvation, the Jewish path without Christ and the path with the Christ... would in fact endanger the foundations of Christian faith.">But then: "That the Jews are participants in God’s salvation is theologically unquestionable, but how that can be possible without confessing Christ explicitly, is and remains an unfathomable divine mystery.">2015, Gifts and the Calling of God
>>536141092>the Thirty Years War was not the Church punishing rebels. It was what happens when you remove the one institution that could arbitrate between Christian princes and replace it with each prince being his own pope. The war was not persecution of a righteous movement. It was the predictable consequence of a theological revolution that destroyed all binding authority. That is diagnosis, not blame.thats what happens to abuse victims sometimes, stockholm syndrome, after being reliant on an extrenal authority so much, any change to the hierarchy causes poeple to completely lose their footing, they are caught in a landslide, the libarator luther appears as the evil-doer robbing people of their inner stability & tried & proven modes of existence, suggesting novel & uncanny forms of belief. such chaos ensues that the logical conclusion to gain any form of order is acting out in violence. captive animals who are released into the wild often still tread the same area of soil as they did in their cage, they already internalized the prison, its in their minds. as men is a being of habit he clings to the old ways just because he is used to doing things a certain way. here too nietzsche says something to the effect of 'just settle for *any* narrative true or false, so people can live more robustly & not be bothered by arguments about basic principles'. the catholic church sought absolute dominance & wanted to make itself indispensable by design, naturally any change to that rigit system causes problems. national socialists too advocated for total religious freedom since any reformation efforts would cause havoc on the german soul.
>>536134445And everyone you listen had no existence prior to their parents having sex, what's your point?
>>536146352national socialist stance on the denomination wars:“Political parties have no right to meddle in religious questions except when these relate to something that is alien to the nation and thus calculated to undermine racial customs and morals. In the same way, religion must not be mixed up with party politics. If some ecclesiastical dignitaries should misuse religious institutions or religious 131teachings to injure their own ration, their opponents ought never to take the same road and fight them with the same weapons. To a political leader, the religious teachings and institutions of his people should be sacred and inviolable; otherwise, he should not be a statesman, but a reformer, if he has the necessary qualities for such a mission.”Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition“In no German region has a religious genius appeared. No one has come forth to reveal through his life a new religious type to replace the existing ones. This fact is decisive insofar as no German conscious of responsibility may direct a demand to leave the churches at those who still cling to them in faith. If one did so it could possibly make the masses uncertain and disintegrate them spiritually. Before we destroy what the people presently have, we must be prepared to offer a substitute.”Rosenberg, Alfred; The Myth of the 20th Century, 1930
>>536146592german original:„Politische Parteien haben mit religiösen Problemen, solange sie nicht als volksfremd die Sitte und Moral der eigenen Rasse untergraben, nichts zu schaffen; genau so wie Religion nicht mit politischem Parteiunfug zu verquicken ist. Wenn kirchliche Würdenträger sich religiöser Einrichtungen oder auch Lehren bedienen, um ihr Volkstum zu schädigen, so darf man ihnen auf diesem Wege niemals folgen und mit gleichen Waffen kämpfen. Dem politischen Führer haben religiöse Lehren und Einrichtungen seines Volkes immer unantastbar zu sein, sonst darf er nicht Politiker sein, sondern soll Reformator werden, wenn er das Zeug hier zu besitzt!“Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26„In keinem deutschen Lande ist ein religiöses Genie aufgetreten, um neben den bestehenden religiösen Typen uns einen neuen vorzuleben. Diese Tatsache ist entscheidend insofern, als kein verantwortungsbewußter Deutscher die Forderung auf Verlassen der Kirchen an jene richten darf, die noch gläubig an ihnen hängen. Man würde sie vielleicht unsicher machen, seelisch zerspalten und ihnen doch keinen echten Ersatz für das Verlorene schenken können.“Rosenberg, Alfred; Mythus des XX. Jahrhunderts, 1930
>>536134109>But now suddenlyyeah, I wonder what is hapening in the world these days to make people care about a world leader saying sensible things that almost feel like they shouldn't even need to be said and clearly putting human life above infinite growth? what a mystery. people must be fucking stupid. just a bunch of sheep following a trend
>>536133959It's actually the complete lack of competition and laziness fueled by importing slave labor to replace children I suppose
>>536133959he's a part of the very same system that christ said to reject. Highly hypocritical of the catholic church(TM) to say they are fighting the very same evil that they perpetuate. >masters>serve>cannot>(you)
>>536134165>not some eceleb ffsyou just proved that guy's point
