The world is starting an all-out assault on porn using culture and politics as a vector. Here is why it's a bad thing.>Porn drastically lowers violent sex crimes by giving aggressive men a point of relief.>Porn disincentivizes younger people from having sex (preventing teenage pregnancies, for example)>Porn allows vulnerable people and incels to experience love and lust.>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)>Porn is most popular form of entertainment.Sources:https://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1999-effects-of-pornography.htmlhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/https://time.com/archive/7143313/study-making-pornography-more-accessible-may-curb-child-abuse/
Fuck off kike shit freak retard. Fuck you. Go to hell.
>>536250863we need to put these jew pornographers in prison
>>536250863Die coomer
>>536250913>Fuck off kike I am atheist.>freakI exclusively watch vanilla porn.>retardMy IQ has been tested and is estimated to be at 142.>Go to hell.Keep your childish fairy tales to /x/. This is a thread for people who want to save lives.>>536250952These Jewish pornographers are saving millions of lives. If anything, we should put anyone who opposes porn inside re-education camps.>>536250976It clearly says "Der Coomer" in your image, learn to read.
>>536250863Have you considered the fact that porn addiction turns your soul into mush?
>>536250863No. We should kill all the pornographers in the streets, wherever we find them, as fast as we can.
>>536251076>Have you considered the fact that porn addiction Porn addiction is not recognized as a real addiction in the DSM-V. It may still exist and pose a problem to some, I don't doubt that, but if you have an addictive personality, porn addiction is infinitely preferable to 99% of other addictions, e.g. alcohol addiction or gambling addiction.It's even preferable to something like social media addiction, which is a much bigger concern, especially if you use 4chan or twitter every day.>turns your soul into mush?Souls don't exist, and even if they did, they wouldn't turn into 'mush'. Stop obfuscating with flowery language.>>536251103Anti-porn activists casually glorifying violence is to be expected. They're usually irrational, impulsive and frankly, of lower intelligence.
>>536251047>This is a thread for people who want to save lives.>We must protect pornpornographers are not people, they do not truly live
>>536251233The DSM-V also does not recognize homosexuality as the mental illness it is. Do you know why? It's because gays rioted at the conference, not because of any scientific understanding. The DSM-V is politicized garbage.
>>536250863>We must protect pornNah. Fuck off.
>>536251233The soul is an old timey understanding of the combined informational self. Information is non-corporeal and indestructible. It is only because of this definition that I must, sadly, concede that, even though they are not people, pornographers probably do have souls. Ugly and useless souls, but still souls.
>>536251233The DSM only reflects prevailing contemporary social norms and the text admits this in the preface.
>>536251294They don't even recognize pedophilia as a mental illness, either, despite extreme political, social and even clinical (99% of medical institutions DO recognize pedophilia as a mental disorder) pressure.This is because the DSM has become extremely anal and objective about their criteria for what can be considered a disorder.
>>536250863I hope you smile for your facial scanSimp
>>536251404See >>536251407The DSM-V usually goes against social norms.I have 142 IQ and am well-read on this topic by the way, I am likely going to outsmart every single thing you are going to throw at me.
>>536251047You are "Der Coomer"He is telling you to die. Or perhaps calling you feminine with a subtle play on words.
>>536251450So you can recognize that the DSM is socially politicized and fails to list things as mental disorders or other kinds of issue that are, by basically everyone outside of the DSM, considered to be disorders and issues, but still want to trust that porn is non-issue simply because it isn't in the DSM? 140iq really payin' dividends there.
>>536251411I don't live in the US. Germany's constitution is supposed to provide a set of guidelines that makes privacy paramount.
>>536251595>He thinks his country's piece of paper will protect him from the surveillance state our criminal international overlords want to force us all intoLELLMAO
>>536251593As I've said, despite heavy pressure by virtually every organization and culture surrounding this topic, they have decided to not include pedophilia as a mental disorder.This is the opposite of playing into politics.
anti-pornism is a feminist campaign of hatred towards the male sex drive. they want us to never feel good sexually
>>536251294>The DSM-V also does not recognize homosexuality as the mental illness it isbecause it isn't
>>536251450Nobody cares about gay IQ score, nerd.
Trvke. Its all a puritan attempt to try and bring about their puritanism. They should all hang.
>>536251701Feminists in general are split between being pro-porn and anti-porn.From my interactions, the majority of feminists interface with the topic negatively when talking about porn consumption, specifically.Either way, whether feminists believe in something or not does not change the underlying truth claims in my original post.
>>536251755But it is. Sexuality's purpose is reproduction. Homosexuality does not satisfy said purpose. It is purely unnatural paraphilia that humiliates and defiles its practitioners.
>>536251755It very clearly is a harm to the self and others. Willfully engaging in harmful behaviors is mental illness. It's like the most basic definition of a mental illness.
>>536251765The shithead for example who tried to ban porn in australia was an american cia glownig and went apeshit when an orthodox priest was stabbed and tried to shut it down. Orthodoxy/puritanisn/whatever should be habged.
porn is bad. i disagree with the sentiment whilst simultaneously agreeing with him because hypothetically speaking me using a very specific one time pad to turn a video of Von der Leyen into lolicon porn should make the aforementioned video illegal.any subhuman that dares to advocate or legislate for anything on the lines of controlled access or mandatory crypto key disclosure is a faggot that shouldn't be taken seriously.if they're not retarded, let them live free or die on their own terms
>>536251701People who are anti-porn usually want the male sex drive to be channeled in a healthy direction, not one that's going to leave you a sexless handfucker with a fucked up reward center in your brain who ends his family's bloodline.
>>536251233>>536251294>>536251755>>536251404My favorite fact about the DSM is that they changed the definition of bipolar disorder after one study found that 70% of women now meet the criteria.Rather than admit that women are getting more insane each year, they changed the definition of insanity.That tells you all you need to know.
porn turns men into cucks.and i bet if they did studies they’d find that rapists probably watch porn near constantly.
>>536250863Line pornographers up against a wall.>But porn reduces rapeLine rapists up against a wall>But teen pregnancy is badIf you're anti-white>Blah blah blahLine OP up against the wall
Anyone who sees a naked woman should be put to death.
>>536250863>shithub
Memeflaggots have arrived. Shills shilling porn again. God bless Hamas. God bless Iran. Death to Israel. Death to kikes. Death to pornographers.
>>536251047kill yourself jew
it's not and pedophilia also is not. you got bamboozled by sex trafficking mafias supported by rich elites>>536251841homosexuality satisfied a different purpose. you'd know if you dug the subject a bit>>536251846>how does that affect you personality meme.tiff
>>536251921Not everyone has a healthy channel available to them. It's commonly said that about 60% of men in history never reproduced (compared to 20% for women who never reproduced)This is despite the fact that monogamy is the most popular form of bonding, even in the past.
>>536252013
>>536251924The entire field of psychology has become pseudo-science clown shit. It was always iffy, even from it's start, but now it's just used to silence dissidents and drug people.
>>536252058Posting silly cartoons is about the highest level of engagement I can only expect from my opposition.
>>536251927Based Britbong. I hope you guys get your country back.
>>536251921>reeeeeee why are you not a serf who gets dragged to do chores by the balls?Because.
>>536252036How much of that 60% was because of sickness, famine, war, slavery? There has never been a similar time in human history where you can just look at a little magic box and see an almost infinite amount of T&A instantly, almost anywhere in the world. This is completely unprecedented and the idea it's not having a negative effect on people and society, especially after peer reviewed studies showing it does, is either dishonest or retarded.
>>536250863How Jewish of you
>>536252141>gets dragged to do chores by the ballsYou could not sound more like a bitch and a spoilt manchild if you tried. Actually take authority and leadership over your wife, do not just be a pussy whipped bitch of a yes-man. They'll like and respect you more for that anyways.
>>536252354Even if we're generous and lower that percentage to 5%, that still leaves us with hundreds of millions of people who deserve to sexually express themselves.>>536252365WTF I love Jews now!
Puritans should get the rope no joke. They are mad they cant make serfs out of us by controlling our balls lol.
>>536250913fpbp
>>536252439Did I ask your opinion about anything? Off to jerk off.
>>536250863who could be behind this anti human push
>>536252440>WTF I love Jews now!Of course you do faggot where would you be without Grindr
>>536252440>that still leaves us with hundreds of millions of people who deserve to sexually express themselves.My nigger in Christ, what the fuck is this communist nu-speak you've had drilled into you? "People who deserve to sexually express themselves." Who? The pornographers? The whores? What about this form of "self expression" (we're not even going to touch on the trafficking or coercion problems) is actually valuable to society? What exactly are they trying to say that so desperately needs to be said? That some whore has tight holes and oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah fuck her harder? Are you fucking for real?And if you mean the consumers, exactly how are they expressing themselves? By nutting into a sock alone in their room to a fucking video? Wow, such expression, what message, what vision.
Sex is wrong.
>>536250952Agree.Ideally they should get the death penalty for human trafficking, obscenity, rape and exploitation.
>>536252472OP asked for all of our opinions by posting this shit thread. Also nice VPN memeflaggot.
>>536252706It's not up to you, an anti-porn activist and violent nutjob, to decide what other people find to be valuable forms of sexual expression.
>>536251047KYSporn is a net nagative, you have no choice but to agree once the concensus is against you, as your "morality" is based on what everyone agrees is good or bad.
>>536252755No, sex, purely on its own, is not wrong. But this perverse mockery of sexuality we've allowed to infect our societies IS.
>>536252839What consensus? Hysterics are fueled through deflection and undue weighing of studies, not honest discourse around data.
Pornography is one of the greatest "accepted" evils of society. i hate it and i would have rather been executed on the spot than ever being EPId.existing like with this whilst comprehending it is mortifying to me, the way it effects people and the way they behave, how it effects social dynamics.i didn't even fucking know what it was when i first saw it. i disavow and disassociate myself from the decadent normie society and their antics, their pure idiocy in the domain of digital technology has led to the demise of many in my generation.i've tried to quit for years. i hate it. i hate it. i hate it.
>>536250863>(preventing teenage pregnancies, for example)Are you retarted ?We want teenage pregnancies. If you have a problem with premariage sex, just restore the marriage age of 14.What do you Think Konfirmation/Jugendweihe is for ?(Of course this doesn't mean we should ban ist - for Free speech reason I even defend lolis, and its obvious all "child protection" is actually a crack down on the oppostion)
>>536252777>wasted trips>not up to youNot up to you either once the concensus is against you. You dont know good from bad besides what the majority of people say is good or bad.
>>536252892>conflation>strawmanThe concensus is turning against you, and when it does will you maintain your stance, or will your belief of morality change?
>>536250863Uk born Indian hate, fuck off kike. I love white people and you kikes need to stop shipping in jeets to Western nations, and no don't tell me to go back, I was born in the uk and have over twenty years of defending the white man as an Indian uncle Tom, get fucked niggers, kikes, jeets and pisslamists.
>>536252706>>536252760>>536252774>>536250952Based>>536252777Cringe
>>536252777You're right, but I am not alone, and it *will be* up to us. Because what are people going to do? Get drone bombed or shot in a ditch for their right to stare at titties on some jewish website? Fat fucking chance and you know it. The war will not be about pornography, but it will end pornography.Also>use of force and/or violence automatically equals insanityIs a dishonest and retarded argument. "The tree of liberty must be periodically watered with the blood of tyrants."
>>536252879Having sex is as demonic as watching someone have sex. Its literally the same thing.
>>536253158I have this feeling like something God literally commanded us to do, when done in the way and contexts set out to do it, as marital sex is, cannot be demonic. Pornography on the other hand, is DEEPLY demonic.
>>536253158>un wed sexFify>watching others badCorrect
>>536252925>We want teenage pregnancies. Teenage pregnancies are not compatible with our current culture. Women want to have careers to be independent and actually afford housing. Everything in our daily life, sans grandma telling us to have children, pushes towards that.We also don't have the extended family household structure anymore, everyone wishes to move out, so you don't have other family members taking care of your children for extended periods of time when you're too busy.
>>536253248>Watching something is demonic, but actually doing it yourself is holyPull your head out of your ass. Are you having sex with your eyes closed? No? Then you're watching it.
>>536250863Kill them all
Your white demographic trends are collapsing, but your biggest priority is keeping your screen addictions alive lel... Why are White people on this board so absolutely obsessed with porn? Is pixelated degeneracy really the most important thing in your life right now? There isn't a single day where you guys aren't flooding this place with endless threads crying about cooming.In the under 10 age group, nearly half of the population is already comprised of immigrants and non Whites. At this exact rate, the future is completely set. In a few generations, traditional White demographics will be entirely phased out and mixed.
>>536253317Women being forced into the workforce was literally engineered as part of a slow-burn white-genocide agenda. It used to be one person (a man) could support a house and a family working alone. The majority of women DID NOT WANT suffrage when it was first pushed and passed by the suffragettes (who were, surprise surprise, jews). They've since been psyopped into thinking that getting into lifetime debt so they can go to some shitty make-work daycare job and ruin their pair-bonding systems fucking tens to hundreds of strangers is in some way empowering and uplifting, and not the literal shameful slavery that it actually is.Like why do they HAVE to work for a family to afford housing? Why are house prices fucked? Why are wages for individuals so low? Fucking THINK hans. None of this shit happens in a vacuum
>>536253476>Your white demographic trends are collapsingBirth rates are shrinking everywhere. >but your biggest priority is keeping your screen addictions alive lel... Am I only allowed to talk about the 'biggest priorities'? Then the catalog ought to be filled with threads exclusively concerning a handful of topics like war and funding cancer research.
>>536250863Porn is bad but unironically I think it is like a ghetto duct-tape repair for the West currently. Young women are hypergamous as fuck and fuck chad, while 90% of young men are in full cope mode and only fuck 0-1 times a year while using porn as a crutch. If porn was banned, you would suddenly have an influx of men who are sexually frustrated.>inb4 accelerateI don't think this would actually lead to anything good. If anything, it would end up as some sort of proxy genocide against any man who isn't extremely attractive, rich, famous, etc
>>536250863they say is to protect children would do nothing about Epstein. Who were his clients?
>>536250863Porn directly makes Trannies, so I'll take the loss if it means no more Trannies forever
>>536253622>Like why do they HAVE to work for a family to afford housing?Cause a single income can't support a family anymore?
>>536253317>We also don't have the extended family household structure anymoreOh, and this was also by design. The intentional break-up of the family structures and the atomization of society was engineered to leave us alone, reliant on and easily controlled or abused by the state. It's a communist tactic and this is not even a new understanding. People who are alone with no family and few friends are much more likely to go along with all the "report your neighbors for wrong-think" programs. Actual soviet/jewish mind war shit.
>>536253623>shrinking everywhereEverywhere feminist indoctrination has taken placeFifyAlso, you do not believe in good, bad, right or wrong.You get no say in prescribing anything as you dont believe anything beyond what the majority claims. The majority is turning against you, and soon your ideals will change to suit. You have no argument.You have no purpose.You have no claim.You dont exist.;*
>>536250863i doubt you'll have any success with this OP anonporn will surviver regardles just like alcohol and drugs have always doneyou can get it easily for free so someone is funneling a shitload of money into producing it and his goals are clearly not proffitit's better to start attacking censors outrightanyone who works in the censorship aparatus or adjacent to themdox them, persecute them, discriminate them, vandalize their property, bully their kids at school (if they actually had any, most of the time they don't)anyone and i mean ABSOLUTELY ANYONE who voices support for censorship should be loudly accused of pedophilia, satanism, incest, cannibalism, organ traffiquing, genocide, war mongering, and pretty much every single crime and sin that has a namethrow the words at them until they loose their meaning, dig on them and expose everything, pester them always and everywhere, make their lives a living hell, drag their reputation through the mudpreach religion denouncing censors as the incarnation of evil, for god is truth absolute and to conceal it is to court with the devil and do his bidding, make everyone fanatical in their purity spiral against censors, do not allow folk to remain neutral eitehr side against censorship or be labeled an enemy to humanitycensorship is the anathema of beauty and prosperity and an existential threat to our speciescensors are not human, they have no soul, they and their allies are only the enemy and must be erradicated
>>536253622>It used to be one person (a man) could support a house and a family working alone. During economic booms? Sure. Americans love to think back to the 1950s-1970s golden age, but conveniently forget about times of economic stagnation that preceded it.If you go back to comparable times of relative economic hardship, newly wed families tended to live with parent families and saved money for decades until they could afford to move out.The desire to marry and have children only when you have enough wealth accumulated to own your own house is a privileged perspective where everyone wishes to have their own room and sphere of privacy, a luxury that did not exist back then.This is still happening in many developing countries. There exist many households still with more heads than rooms and beds.
>>536253715And why the fuck not? Really think about it anon. Who does that benefit? Because it's not the lay public.
>>536253317>current cultureThe one that is turning against you?Shouldnt your ideals change to match what the majority ideation of morality is then Hans?
>>536250863Shut up, kike. Goy men need to quit jerking off to gay porn, which is basically all of it. Dick in scene? Gay. The end
>>536253786>The intentional break-up of the family structures and the atomization of society was engineered to leave us aloneAlmost all Americans have no qualms with the nuclear family unit. The American Dream has become inseparable from freedom from (parental) family.
>>536253965>Who does that benefit?Billionaires
>>536253947>boomsAnd busts, and through out the totality of human existance. I have over 10000yrs of human existance to bolstercmy claim. When does history start for you Hans?The majority views of morality are changing, your views will change too, as you dont believe in morality outside of what the majority deems is good or bad.
Ok, but stay away from women forever and don’t indoctrinate young men who have potential into it. Oh, that’s right, that’s exactly the opposite of what you’ve been doing and want to do, you want to drag everyone else down with you, you disgusting genetic failures. It would be far better if you killed yourself though, your bait threads are pathetic.
>>536253920lel, nice selfie, cumstink>dox them, persecute them, discriminate them, vandalize their property, bully their kids at school (if they actually had any, most of the time they don't)All of this, but for pornographers.>anyone and i mean ABSOLUTELY ANYONE who voices support for censorship should be loudly accused of pedophilia, satanism, incest, cannibalism, organ traffiquing, genocide, war mongering, and pretty much every single crime and sin that has a name>just slander the people that disagree with youthis will not have the effect you think it will have.
>>536254163I hate to be that guy, but if you don't know how to type 'existence' in your mother tongue, then I am afraid you have raised a red flag so vibrant that I see no merit in a discussion with you.
>>536250863>The world is starting an all-out assault on pornit's not about porn lol it's about removing internet anonymitywhen every login to the interwebz is confirmed by your govt ID, you'll stfu with your antisemitisms or else
>>536253623You are completely missing the point. I am not talking about general birth rates. I am talking about the shifting racial demographic proportions among the youth who are supposed to lead the future of Western Europe and the USWith your entire future literally dissolving in front of your eyes, how can you still be sitting here obsessing over porn and internet degeneracy? It is absolutely pathetic.Look at the actual demographic data for children in your white countries right now. At least one-third of the youngest generation already comes from immigrant backgrounds. Do you honestly think that is a small number? In just two generations, over 70% of the population that is supposed to lead your future will have immigrant ancestry mixed into their bloodlines.Unless White people physically take back the essential labor that immigrants are currently running and drastically increase your birth rates right now, "WHITE SOCIETY" is completely finished.
>>536250863Blame simps
>>536254274>that guyYou are, and because you have no argument you resort to being "that guy".The majority is changing, and soon you "ideals" will change to suit, as you never had any to begin with.
>>536254317How bad is enjeetification in Korea? Do you really have any room to talk?
>>536253947>Americans love to think back to the 1950s-1970s golden age>bulk of their working population dead or crippled after the war>a metric fuck ton of cash was printed to bankroll the war and inflation won't be felt until the next generation>not nearly enough employees to fill all vacant spots in factories + no inmigration infrastructure to replace them en mass = high salaries>women still not totally cucked by feminism, they even got a taste of being an empowered factory worker and hated it so much they went back to the kitchen as soon as the war endedeven the poorest boomer grew up pissing champagne and shitting caviar in a golden toilet using silk as toilet paper, they grew fat lazy and entiteled, they do not know what scarcity is, certainly do not know what real work is either, but they sure like to brag about he they earned the former through the later when in truth the concept of hardship is as alien to them as soap is to a commie
We need more censorship.Porn and hate speech are evil.
Coomers need to be lined uo and shot
>>536250863Porn addiction often leads to to fetishes though. Its a sliding scale, like any addiction the brain gets use to the dopamine and you crave more and more. To the point only the most degen shit gets you off. Eventually leading to extreme fetishes like scat, vore, beastiality, pedophilia, rape, ect. Unironicly porn addiction is the worst thing in modern times. Its like giving kids and young adults cigs and telling them its good for them.
>>536253947>During economic booms? Sure. Americans love to... a luxury that did not exist back then.You know what, fair. Living in multi-generational family housing was much more common in the past. Perhaps us moving away from that modality and into the nuclear family model where every man and woman own a house was the early stage of the efforts to atomize families and isolate everyone.Perhaps we should go back to that way of life being normalized and not looked down on? Perhaps we should fight back against the parts of society that are keeping people locked out of home ownership, too, though, hmmm?
>>536254317Unfortunately it seems you're the one who has missed the point. /pol/ is not a place where only the most 'urgent' (whatever that means) topics may ever be discussed. We already have threads up for demographic discussions every day, either way. Me talking about a novel, albeit less urgent subject has a much more significant impact on society than me adding my 2 cents to a tired subject that everyone and their mother has already talked about.It's called 'diminishing returns'.
>>536254030>Dick in scene? Gay. The end100% this, also.
>ban porn >jews win>no ban porn >jews win
>>536254089And more than half of Americans do not have the nuclear family unit. The American dream was always self sufficiency and material wealth with some spirituality thrown on for flavor. It's not about being free from or fleeing your family, it's about having your own spaces and not being a burden on them.
>>536254273it doesit will defang their "think of muh children" rethorical weapon just as feminist defanged the "think of muh womyn" weaponthere will come a time when folk listen to a guy with fake smile in suit yelling "muh children" on tv and the only thing it'll provoke in normies is the "sigh" of tirednes: "oh great! another censorious tyrant with skeletons in his closet"make no mistake, when i say to accuse them of all sins known to man is because i know beyond all shadow of doubt that they are definetly guilty of them all, digging on them will just uncover the evidencealsothis is my selfy
>>536254123And who are most of the billionaires?
>>536254668Westernized rabbis are usually well-informed about ethics and synergize well with western morals. They're good candidates for leading porn websites.
>>536254477Yes, Korea is suffering from a low birth rate, but you are completely missing the structural difference. Even with a declining population, Korean society remains Korean. The social cohesion and cultural identity stay completely intact.But in the West, when your demographics shift so drastically that your youth are majority non White, White society as you know it simply ceases to exist.Korea will always have a room to talk because our identity isn't being erased from our own soil
>>536250863Do not worry, porn will be fine. We are entering a golden age for porn. "Porn" has been found on the walls of ancient caves. It survives and appreciates better than most goods. Are they going to ban you from drawing boobas in the dirt? Are they going to find a way to make women stop taking their clothes off for attention? lol no. Today you can use ai to make any kind of porn you want even girls with tails.
Anime and porn are Jewish psyops
>>536254030I think being this agitated about male nudity (when male nudity should lead to indifference, not negative agitation), says a lot about your own sexuality.
>>536250863We must protect porn, points out only porn that is legally allowed.Amateur pornHidden cam pornCandid stuffVoyeur stuffThat is the one that needs the real protection
>>536254874>points out only porn that is legally allowed.Hmm? >>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)
>>536254567Is porn seriously politics to you now? You are trying to sound smart by throwing around economic terms like "diminishing returns" but you are completely making a fool of yourself.The immigrant problem is not a tired subject, it is a foundational crisis that fundamentally reshapes politics, economy, society, and culture from the ground up. Yet here you are, on a political discussion board, losing your absolute mind over adult websites and unironically arguing that "saving porn" is a meaningful social contribution. To anyone with a functioning brain, that is an incredibly idiotic and pathetic display of degenerate addiction.
>>536254758>Global billionaire demographics are heavily skewed towards white and Asian individuals, with white billionaires making up approximately 65-80% of the total, followed by a significant Asian demographic, while Black and Hispanic individuals represent less than 1%
>>536254760Holy shit the mask came off!Thanks for playing Hans!BTW, thanks for letting everyone here know where your ideals of morality stem. Tell us Hans, is lying to achieve your ideal good or bad?
>>536254981>Is porn seriously politics to you now?Availability and legalization of pornography is a serious political topic right now in Germany and much of the western world.>The immigrant problem is not a tired subject, it is a foundational crisis Whether something is 'foundational' does not concern the effect that talking about it will have in the context of overall frequency of the subject.
>>536255176Answer>>536255105 Hans
>>536254874based>>536254668I thought we already established that jews own just about everything why is this surprising?
>>536255105>Tell us Hans, is lying to achieve your ideal good or bad?It's a good question. I think it's a question that most people don't have the mental maturity to engage with in a productive way.I'll just put this out, if you have to lie about your ideals, lie by omission and deflection, not by making up new ideals. Society may not be mature enough to hear about your true ideals without chimping out.
>>536254752If you are the one slandering, it won't have this effect you're describing on the censors you're slandering, it will have that effect on you. People will look at the porn advocates constantly lying and accusing people of shit they didn't do and get sick of them. The anti-porn crowd would almost not even need to do anything at that point. People would join them just to shit on you in court (or destroy you in the streets, depending on how escalated things have gotten as we resist neo-weimar). It doesn't really matter if anti-porn advocates aren't perfect people. What matters is whether or not porn, on its own, is a net help or harm to society, and almost every study comes back saying it's a net harm, and a serious one, at that.
Seeing tits is wrong.
>>536250863You will never be a real German. You are no aryan, you have no pride, you are not übermensch. You are a turk that's family immigrated and are are a crude mockery of Der Deutsche Volk. All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your peers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish, arab appearance behind closed doors. German Women are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed Germans to sniff out Turks with incredible efficiency. Even turkish who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to Germans. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk woman home with you, she’ll turn tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your tiny, inferior Turkish penis. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your peers will find you, happy and relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of associating with a Turk. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your name which is Turkish and not German, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Turk is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is clearly not German.
>>536255463Also porn is jewish
>>536255359>wont answer the questionYour morality and ideals dont exist. Why are you here arguing for things you dont believe?Your morality will change to suit the majority. The current culture is changing and you will too.
>>536254760>rabbis are usually well-informed about ethicsAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hans, wait, no, you can't be seri->and synergize well with western morals. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*gasp*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>536255515>>wont answer the questionI clearly answered the question, though?>Why are you here arguing for things you dont believe?I believe in the things I argue for. I think your education system has failed you if you can't parse a short 4chan post in your native language.
>>536255565This anon gets it
>>536251047>Saving livesUhhh you are missing the forest for the trees, communism's kills the most, Jews did holodomor+ WW1&ww2&9/11... So that's like idk a cool quarter billion right there? How many were white or Christians?
>>536250863Pornography is cancer.I say get rid of it.
Anti-porn is brown-coded.
>>536250863Are you OK?x)Pal ...Hindu temple PornEgypt temple PornGreece relics Porn Sistine Chapel only PornEuropean dark ages painted Art PornIllustrated Bible Mostly PornFirst print PornFirst celluloid camera PornVHS PornFirst computer games PornCD and DVD PornInternet after single month first porn PagesAI I2V ,T2I Literally Porn Only (grok)Pal It is you who Need Protection Porn Do not Need It...It is firs everywhere!!!x)
>>536255656
>>536250863the west is declining partially due to porn accessibility
>>536255575>Answered the questionedNo faggot, you offered conditionals with no answer. Its a yes or no answer, but in true spineless form, you slinked out of holding a position. This is because you believe in nothing, and your ideals are whatever the majority say they are. The majority is changing Hans, you will too because "you" dont exist without that validation.
If God wanted us to see each other naked, he would have made us naked.
>>536251233You are retarded. Mush is a metaphor, communicating uselessness or destruction of form.
>>536250863>giving aggressive men a point of relief.thats the issue, men achieved 100x more when it was hard to see boobs. porn is a pacifier. men used to conquer good quality women & society made sure to raise women properly to make them worth of admiration. if the young virgin bride is the goal, you can put anything in the path of a man, he will achieve the impossible to score. white nations used to guard those systems since they knew of the power of sexuality. porn & hookup culture giving you a 'shortcut' is not a good thing, only retards celebrate modern relationships where sex is easy to come by, the dont understand that it makes them weak. instant gratification versus delayed gratification, short term 'pressure release' versus long term planning, only the latter builds civilization.
>>536255420that's why i say to ignore pornattack censorswhen they bring up porn accusation throw them right back at them "you'r the one who brought it up degenerate censor!"never mention porn, always mention censorshipin fact, deffending porn is merely incidentalyou are attacking lies and deception, the very definition of censorship, you identify god as the embodiment of absolute thruth and side with him against his enemies who are demonic merely for being censorious, deceptive and liarsand why would people lie and deceive if not to conceal the many great crimes they hide in their closetbring up the eiptstein island and it's secret flight list the next time someone ask why are you so sure all censors are pedophiles
>>536252839>4chins is “everyone”99% of people have no problem with some fat tits bouncing around on a screen Only grotesque terminally online mutants larping as functional people choose this as their retarded hill to die on.
>>536250863>>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)It's always hidden in somewhere. Pedos are very protective of their child abuse drawn material.
>>536255844This german bro gets itWtf is up with this cat>>536255656
>>536250863>giving aggressive men a point of relief.because aggression is a bad thing.
>>536250863
>>536255759I've already addressed that in the post that gave the answer, your incessant demands to answer with a non-nuanced yes-or-no shows you're not emotionally mature enough for the topic and are just looking for emotional outlet.>>536255775Leave the metaphors at your local poetry club.This is not the time nor place to obfuscate facts and numbers with flowery language.
>>536250863>>536250863
>>536255878>in my head every one agrees with meKAppeal to concensus for morality and ideals
>>536255923>just be a weak beta male goyim Holy shit , we are reaching level of jewishness that shouldn't even be possible
People do not not reproduce because of Le porn kekThey do not reproduce because of feminism, you already have a myriad of statistics, that show: men put the priority of having kids at the peak of the well-being leaderboard, whereas for women, in many of these studies, such motivation did not even make it to top 5, instead it was always a hedonistic motivation of self-sufficiency, having fuck ton of money.
>>536250863Reminder it's not a war against all porn so much as it's a war against free porn.
>>536255968>yes>noAnswer the question Hans, then you may use a qualifierIs it good to lie the achieve your ideal?
>>536250863>i provided sources for your convenience, youre welcome!>check the sources!>have you already checked my sources?
>isreal invades gaza>first thing they do is seize tv channel studio & broadcast porn>prudish chaste muslim men get all hypnotized
If God wanted us to see tits, he wouldn't have invented clothes
>>536250863>>Porn is most popular form of entertainment.handrubbing intesifies.
>>536256109It's slightly amusing that the person unsolicitedly complaining about the inclusion of sources earlier in the thread was posting twitter screencaps and a matrix meme. Anti-intellectualism and its consequences for this website have been disastrous.
>>536256277Answer the question Hans.Is it good to lie to achieve an ideal?
>>536250863>>Porn is most popular form of entertainment.>the pleb love it!>the poeple have chosen!>isnt democracy great, without the oversight of a leader we finally can indulge in all the hedonistic degeneracy we want!
What do you think about banning porn of real people or "realistic" looking people/animals but keeping furry art and hentai?
>>536256277Still waiting for you to answer Hans>>536256384Answer the question
>>536254752If they really cared about the children then they would go after the abusive parents that allow their kids to watch porn instead of blaming everybody else's rights.
>>536255875People are going to see through that. Not all censorship is evil, nor is all of it rooted in lies and deception. Also, it's arguable that God himself is censorious. There are numerous laws and commandments that, while not explicitly mentioning pornography (it didn't really exist in the ancient world to the same scope), would effectively ban it if followed. Merely thinking impure thoughts about a woman you are not married to is considered adultery by God, for instance, and adultery is outlawed under his law, punishable by death. Following that, since porn exists exclusively to induce impure thoughts about a woman that you are not married to, the creation, distribution, and consumption of pornography would be punishable by death under God's law.
>>536256277common sense tells me its all bunk science, jews, crypto-jews or nihilistic shabbos goys talking a bunch of trash because they are mentally ill or just plain malicious. if you were capable of autonomous thought you would not need some made up wall of text article or "research"-paper to tell you waht to think, but here we are.
>>536255875Also, if your adversaries are not lying, accusing them of being liars will only make you look worse.
>>536256490You do not have to be scared !No one going to Ban Porn!Porn will go extinct only with Human Kind!!!x)No one going ban your Fjuriess unless you make them UGLY or PEDO stuff!x)
>>536256730You are wasting your time with >>536256277He cant answer a simple yes or no question, or have dialogue without appealing to concensus for morality.
Masturbation is a sin.If you've ever busted a nut outside of marriage you're going to hell
>>536255923It's almost odd to me how degenerates always try to misconstrue the natural disgust and revulsion people express towards their degeneracy as fear. They do the same thing with homo"phobia".
Why are you utter retards even engaging with this obvious bait? Even if it wasn’t bait, why engage at all with a thing so beneath you? It is irrelevant and it’s incapable of forming any proper thoughts.
>>536250863You not only need to drop porn. You need to stop consuming all forms of goyslop. If you wanna see naked girls just go out and bag one.
>>536255923>aggression le badSuch aggression in this post. Is it good to lie to achieve your ideal?
>>536250863>>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)yeah back in the day when we actually lived by established rules & laws, instead of letting mentally ill perverts walk freely in our societies & shower them with priviliges & special protections, they were put in mental institutions.
>>536257082>If you wanna see naked girls just go out and bag one.That's literally the same as porn. You have to have sex with clothes on, so you don't see anything, or you're going to hell.
>>536254787Do you really think Korea is that far behind?Don't you guys have the whole twice as many pensioners as workers problem same as Japan?
Leon is so hot
>>536257117what? my post was irony, ofc aggression is a good natural rhing, otherwise we would not feel it, the jew relies on all goys being pacified, since he is weak, cowardly & outnumbered he know he has non chance in open conflict.
This one too.
>>536251047say "Jesus".
>>536257001
We should ban porn. I want to live in the timeline when the global revolution against the jews starts because they stopped us from gooning and we redirected all of that gooning energy into global genocide of the parasite Epstein class of traitor faggot pedophiles.
Hot damn.
>>536250863>Open /pol>We must protect porn.The World is HealingAll of that while USA make a giga insane effort to be 10x hated and turbo wipe their own ppl and civ.On purpose obviously BUT not obviously because it is still a retarded idea by mr_whoever_i_control_the_worldWhat the fuck is happening? Is that reality?
>>536251927>>536252130These
>>536257293Sorry anon I thought you were another posterHave a chuckle on me
>>536251924please provide this one study or tell me the name
>>536250863>we must defend a kike weapon of demoralizationok, moishe. you kikes sure do like pushing filth on the goyim
>>536257423kekof course
Can we focus more on AIPAC and THE EPSTEIN FILES, instead of solved issues like porn. Porn is legal and owned by Jewish producers.What is a threat is them taking over elections and protecting child trafficking. I wanna know why they keep steering us off course.Porn is always one of those think of the children issues and then christians go after freedom of speech. Yes it should be protected, but its not a main issue to solve.
>>536250913Fpbp, OP coping faggot confirmed
>>536257789Why would you save something like that to your computer?
>>536258075For emergency situations such as this one.
>>536258230I suppose it's at least a little effective as a distraction, but god damn anon. At least it shows directly how vile porn can be.
If you've ever seen boobs out of wedlock, you're going to hell.
Without pron I would ra-e females
>>536250863Porn is great when used strategically. Just coom instead of simmering in sexual frustration. What's bad is "gooning" for hours on end. Nigger, get a life.
>>536250863I don't give a shit, I've got more old porn than I'll ever be able to use and all the new porn these days is just trash anyway. Fuck em.
>>536250863There is a monopoly problem with the porn industry, too many jews use it to push an agenda, but likewise it's the same with news, movies, music, and other forms of entertainment are affected too. The monopoly malpractices must be broken down if you want to protect porn. But at the same time we need to dismantle all the pro censorship bots the kikes are pushing, they're trying to condition people to be subservient to a nanny state and porn is a red herring trojan they scapegoat to, to push this censorship agenda. They're priming people with this bootlicking mentality and hoping other people would bootlick as well.
>>536250863>>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)>its more 'humane' to let degenerates live out their fantasies in a safe environment.>uhm nvm we actually do want to freely excercise our fetishes afterall lol.
I ran out of attractive men, can anyone post more?
>>536258755The people who raped kids in the US gov and in religious institutions are very anti porn, yet their sexual frustration drives them mad to the point they commit the most depraved actions as a result of not being able to let it out.
>>536258495Porn will always exist everywhere, even in China and Iran where it is banned, but it's a matter of accessibility. The less people are able to access porn, the more prone they are to raping and forming grooming gangs. People from 3rd world shitholes easily demonstrate this behavior, likewise churches, schools, scouts and other places with strict anti-porn rules are breeding grounds for groomers and rapists, out of sexual frustration.
>>536250863Finally some sanity.Putrid cut the russians access to anal porn, and now their entire regime is collapsing.Porn is modern day bread and circus, a distraction in this shitt world, except you don't have to watch unless you want to.Porn is a basic human right.
>>536250952https://xcancel.com/Boochibooch/status/2059771011269042665
>>536259305Du-te si mori in razboi futu-ti mortii ma-ti de javra. Nu ai niciun rost in lumea asta bulangiu dreq, pisa-m-as pe rasa ta. Sper sa moara cu tine toata linia ta genetica de labari urati si jegosi.
>>536258751That's another good reason to ban porn. Every porn company is jewish and anything that hurts jewish business is good for the USA and Americans. If it's bad for jews it's good for Americans.
>>536250863Porn is human trafficking.
>>536251047Don't listen to them, I think you're based
Because the gas station wont sell you beer without a license to confirm your age is the gas station or the state banning beer?
>>536250863It's always amusing to me that those with high IQ (supposedly) like to take a very simple fact and muck it all up by verbally masturbating themselves into seeing something that's not there. Sometimes a cigar is a cigar. I don't give a fuck what studies say, if you can't feel that something feels off about porn then you're an NPC. An NPC that reads studies maybe, but still an NPC
>>536258934one can practice healthy sexuality wihtout porn in case you missed it. also its the sexual degenerates who chose religious occupations since their abstinence is considered particularly holy though they are just closeted perverts, many such cases. those catholic child-diddlers are not abstitent because they want to be pure in gods eyes but because living ones fantasies is off limits in society.
>>536258934never heard of healthy middle-ground?
>>536256200god invented clothes to keep us warm so we wouldn't freeze to death stupid mongoloid retard nigger. don't you have some orange dongballs to suck whore
>>536256277pornhub nuked all their amateur porn a few years ago so if pornhub kikes are allowed to ban stuff why are we not allowed to ban them
>>536259332Jew monopoly on porn has always been a cancer, we used to have naked paintings, naked statues, high level literary works, and even pornographic poetry. The jews are trying to replace this porn culture with their propaganda culture. Porn outside of the english speaking hemisphere are often very deep, profound, technical, insightful and often avant-garde pieces of literary art. Greeks and Japanese have demonstrated this time and time again.>>536259453Not really, indie companies that are non-jewish are more and more the case with porn. Porn books and porn games are all made by the common man, not curated by the banker jews. Therefore the more they become impervious to jewish propaganda/standards.
>>536259709no god invented the white genome so they could survive freezing temperatures WITHOUT clothes, pic related
>>536250863the issue is that it's available to underdeveloped brains, or children. So you have to get rid of it for everyone if you dont want internet ID. You're being disingenuous if you believe porn doesnt destroy the innocence of childhood by showing children or early teens the extent people go for profits through porn. You are replacing relationship with artificial videos that don't display what sex is supposed to be like between two people in love with each other. The most popular categories are degenerate like step-incest or cheating. Your imagination is being replaced by whatever the jew wants you to focus on, meaning if you continue to propagate porn and watch it at a younger age, your imagination will slowly drift towards those tendencies or try to realize those thoughts without your imagination even being based in reality. You're not going to be able to fuck your step sister because you fall asleep naked like a porn star does.
>>536250863Why are there so many fucking jews in Germany? I hate that they post with the German flag. It's almost a "hey look I'm still here shitting up Germany 80 years later" ... dude it upsets me to no end. The holocaust really should have happened, and it sucks that was a lie. ffs posts like this prove exactly why they deserved it
Half of porn has a black dude in it anyway. I wont watch porn with black dudes in it. That's nigger porn for niggers. I'm white. I want white men in my porn fucking white women. Racially pure as god intended.
>>536250863the simp epidemic is the most important issue in the west. kill yourself.
>>536252442This
>>536259950All of the Germans of any merit, became Americans. The only Germans left are mutts and cucks who love taking long muslim dick in their ass.But it's OK. German-Americans are still the best of the best genetic stock on earth.
>>536250863>Porn drastically lowers violent sex crimes by giving aggressive men a point of relief.Then let them read hentai.>Porn disincentivizes younger people from having sex (preventing teenage pregnancies, for example)I don't know if you know this but the entire west is at sub-replacement birth rates, otherwise known as a population crisis.>Porn allows vulnerable people and incels to experience loveUtter retardation. Literally causes the opposite.>Porn allows people with dangerous fetishes to experience their fetish in a safe way (p@dophilia -> lolicon)Hentai again. Recording or participating in sex for the production of pornography should be a crime. Drawings are different.>Porn is most popular form of entertainment.It really isn't.Fuck off rabbi.TKD
>>536251233I’m with you anon. You’re doing god’s work defending working girls
>>536259989Kill yourself you fist fucker faggot, stop tainting the romanian flag. How the fuck are you addicted to porn as a faggot when you faggots have the thirstiest men alive that would fuck the ugliest ultra baboon nigger available?
>>536252925>Are you retarted ?
>>536260157GTFO
>>536253476>ban porn>Korea has the LOWEST birthrates in the world What did you mean by this?
>>536250863The only people against it worship jewish fairytales Oh no some jew book makes them feel as though porn is terrible even though jesus side piece was a legit prostitute slut. Like what the fuck?? They just have some weird view on sex where its only done for procreation All I know is the anti porn retards are going to do is accelerate the use of digital id And then will be the first ones to bitch “ugh buh they are going to make us show id’s to use /pol/ what??” puritan satanic panic losers, reminder the same people were scared of elvis and his rock music.
>>536259949I don't think that's true. Porn is educational and cathartic for a lot of people. Porn books and porn games often show the inner workings of the human psyche, and a romantic story without sex scenes detailing the progression of romance is far too unrealistic. Most people seeking to get a quick relief aren't going to go knee deep in pornographic literature, they're merely regulating their desires so that they can live a comfortable life not at the mercy of their libido (grooming, raping, etc.). People love to seek fantasies such as killing in video games even if they aren't a psychopath, and over time this has shown to lower aggressive behavior towards another person, and there are reliable statistics regarding porn availability denoting that it lowered rape and abuse rates the more it became accessible. If anything it's healthy for society to engage in fantasy, everyone does.
>>536253920>censorship is the anathema of beauty and prosperity and an existential threat to our species >censors are not human, they have no soul, they and their allies are only the enemy and must be erradicatedFinally someone with more than a braincell.
A retarded idea after 30+ years of nonstop porn on demand online, but I support it if it puts OF whores out of business forever.
>>536254844These are the jeet retards who censor boobs in historic oil paintings. What an absolute shame.
We need more censorship.
>>536253920> doubt you'll have any success with this OP anon porn will surviver regardles just like alcohol and drugs have always doneIt will cement the fact I wont vote for any openly christian president. I will only vote left because they seem to be the only party about freedom. This christian puritanism can get some likes on X but its not something anyone actually wants. These people need to figure out how to impress their beliefs on their own families without their kids rebelling or wife divorcing them before they want it for the nation at large.
>>536250863the longer you go without using porn the easier it is to get excited by softcore. Hardcore porn is not a good thing for the participants or the viewers, and we should support efforts to control its creation and distribution
>>536260546Censorship of only the ones who are trying to censor. Don't forget that pro censorship lobbyists are trying to get you to give up your rights under the guise of protecting kids or protecting against terrorism, or other trojans. Condoning/promoting censorship is like splaying your ass out in the open for big gov to fuck you over until you die.
Take away porn, take away gasoline, take away homes and wives and kids. Take away so much that humanity has no choice but to rise up as one shrieking mass and rip the ruling class to bloody fragments.
>>536260674>my beliefs are contingent upon what others say they are>I only get behind whats popular so that I dont have to stand for anything other than whats popoularK ;*
Actually we should round up all pornographers and porn “actors” and publicly burn them to death
>>536260911I wont vote for your puritanism and the more you push it the less and less i will support the right
>>536260686This is not true at all. Hardcore porn is most cathartic for people who are incredibly sexually frustrated, and even famous literary works often show dark, grim, or twisted types of pornographic literature to be able to denote the makings and the art of the human psyche to its full extent. Think of this as being able to release stress with a violent video game vs. a girly dolly game made for 2 year olds. The former would have more success at being cathartic and help people with an outlet to their frustrations.
>>536251233>insectoid nu-male has no concept of a soulmajin muh shawk
>>536260923>anti-porn, exceedingly frustrated and violent prone huh
>>536261069>limp-dicked masturbator with a coombrained takeYou have to scour filth to clean it, violence is the gold standard of authority.
>>536260397So instead of seeing these as issues of an abusive system, we should instead give these people simulated spaces to live in their entire lives because we want a few criminals to use porn when it degrades the rest of the population as a result? I want my kid to have the same availability to the same porn a rapist or pedophile would or could use? How does that make sense? How does it make sense to expose my child to that? How is that normal?
>>536260998But by not fapping constantly the imagination takes over and perhaps that is even more cathartic as you explore the depths of the psyche's desires.
>>536250863nice try rabbi
>>536261184You sound like an ineffectual loser talking about things you know nothing about. The only violence you have ever seen is from video games and movies.
>>536260972>straw manIm not pushing anything other than your stance dependant belief, and the fact that if the majority oppinion changes on porn, your belief will conform to that morality. Because you dont exist, and you have no ideals of your own, and you have no moral stance to prescribe anything. You appeal to concensus.You validate your ideals based on whats popularK?;*
>>536261215You’re trying to tell what is essentially a heroin addict that sobriety is the best way to live. They have no concept of not being degenerates.
>>536250863BAN PORN
For those saying that porn existing lowers violent sex, by the same logic, you are accepting that CP reduces child abuse. Are you comfortable with that? I wonder.
>>536261268I get into physical fights at work daily, you are a retarded, porn brained ghoul and belong in a mass grave.
>>536261294I really dont care what some faggot on /pol/ thinks So boom you are wrong Suck my dick or is that phrase going to be censored too??
>>536261383You are now a liar and gay bahah Go get ready to suck dicks today we all know thats what you do
>>536250863Give me someth to goon to. I always loved layla london but I finished all her good stuff. Any other natural minx with a jiggly pole dancer body out there?
>>536250913FPBP
>>536261189It's not only about porn but regarding sexual frustration, or frustration in general. A person frustrated is gonna be more violent and prone to murder without release, a person sexually frustrated is going to be prone to raping and grooming. This is pretty much common sense. Your kid already has the same availability as a rapist/pedophile, as your kid can browse the dark web just as much as any sexually frustrated groomer can, regardless even if all porn is banned. That's how they do it in 3rd world countries and they see the dark web as a normal thing since they are censored legally. This is about educating people, even your children, to a lot of things they will have to face in life. You can't just ignore and pretend it's gonna be fine. If so, one day they'll end up a rapist and it's gonna be your fault.>>536261215That's not gonna help society since sexual frustration are often the reason grooming gangs and rapists do what they do.
>>536261322checked.addicts always think more and easier access to the thing they're addicted to is a good thing
>>536261366The creation of CP always require child abuse, the creation of porn does not. Snuff films killing real people exist as well, but that doesn't mean people who watch violent movies or play video games, are gonna end up as snuff filmers.
>>536261470Ok, nigger. You being a useless, craven faggot has no bearing on my life. I hope you hang yourself when porn is outlawed.
>>536250863The people who participate in any form of pornography, cannot be included in society, they spread mental illness, and fornication, and they can't be tolerated.
>>536261556has the widespread availability of hardcore porn led to a decline in grooming gangs and rapists? Do you have any empirical data showing this?
>>536250863You need another Hitler you sick freak
>>536261556>if youre kid doesnt watch CP or violent porn, he will become a rapist or pedophile"Shut the fuck up.
Censor me harder daddy
>>536261673There are a lot of research posted even on this thread alone, but you can easily google them. There is definitely data that places with less accessibility to porn are often more sexually frustrated and prone to grooming and rape/abuse.>>536261717Nope, never said that. I already told you CP requires child abuse. Some twisted or graphic literature isn't going to turn people into a rapist or pedophile. Do you think video games turn people into murderers?
>>536261880>There is definitely data that places with less accessibility to porn are often more sexually frustrated and prone to grooming and rape/abuse.Post it or shut up about it
>>536251999>>536257999
>>536261962Look at OP's post, as well as papers from Kendall, D'Amato, Diamond (2006), etc. Like literally you can easily google this up, it's all over. You don't need people to spoonfeed you.
>>536262099999 is a failget, newfriend.
>>536250863Porn should only be allowed in BRICS brown commie shitholes.
>>536262158Then people will switch to using the dark web, and CP will be normalised for everyone. Is that what you want? Taking people's guns away doesn't take away the crime.
>>536262297It's literally what they want. lolI hope the world becomes as bad as possible when these Mormon faggots get their way. They are secretly gay anyway. Look up the Mormon missionary rules about assigned partners. lmao
>>536262297>this nigger thinks CP isn’t available on the dark web right now despite the legality of porn
>>536262464>80 iq muttoid who can't parse an argument that a 4channer makeskwab
>>536261419>dont care what some faggot thinks Yes you do, as it shapes your world view and informs you of good/badYou have no way of knowing whats good or bad outside of what is popularIf everyone agrred but you that the term "suck my dick" was bad and punishable you would agree. Otherwise how would you be right to disagree?You dont exist and neither do your ideals. ;*
>>536262464There is no incentive to use the dark web when regular porn is available. But when regular porn is reallocated to the dark web, and you put CP and regular porn side by side next to each other, it's like you're giving CP free advertisement.
>>536261880Youre saying its about educating your children about what they will encounter in life but bring up the Dark Web as if thats a common facet to any normal bodies life outside of degenerate 4chan users. And its not about video games turning people into murderers, its removing the child's sense of imagination and child like wonder. Giving them the ability to watch a sexual act to completion without even having feelings for a girl yet is doing stuff to mens brains. You're expecting life to individually suit you and your desires every single day for the rest of your life because there is no guardrail keeping you away from vices that are meant to hold your attention or bring your attention, basically conditioning the child. It's not realistic. Women get old. They do not stay young and perky forever. So now its giving unreal expectations to the child. It's showing the child another man's punishment. Other than his own or his father's. At a young age. Imagine the comparison a child makes with a grown man. You're completely fucking over many lives by advocating for this.
>>536262619penis* not punishment
>>536250976i always kek when seeing that pic, it's so unreasonably funny.
>>536255359Answer the question Hans
>>536262619>its removing the child's sense of imagination and child like wonderDo you think this is not what the school system already does? Educating people whether it's about religion or science or some other topic, will definitely have an impact on a child. A parent should be able to guide their kids through understanding, not restriction. One way or another they will know about it and will be exposed to it or will confront it. You can't hide porn, video games, horror movies, and the horrors of the world from the child forever. Making them purposefully ignorant is stunting their growth and doing them a disservice.
>>536260320meanwhile california, the bluest state in the country, is making users show id if they want to install linuxi guess there goes that theory
>>536260674>going to jail for hate speech?>thats TRUE FREEDOM!
>>536261880>studiesDo you break these studies down further to see what kind of households lead to the negative outcomes about which you present regarding grooming etc...?Surely it is lack of access to degeneracy which creates degeneracy.
>>536262885Basically anon, yes.So long as its secular oppression with statistics and studies!
>>536262839Lmao, completely ignore the rest of my post faggot, you know what youre walking around. You're slimey and unwilling to let go.
>>536262619>its removing the child's sense of imagination and child like wonder.None of that disappeared when I started watching porn at the age of about 10.
>>536262911>lack of access to degeneracy which creates degeneracy.Anti-gay priests and/or anti-porn promoters have been caught grooming or even annoying/molesting kids. They literally even tell on themselves. Sexual frustration drives people to madness, that's why grooming gangs might not make any sense at all to you but it is a reality of the human psyche, not just the brown ones, but conservative/religious white pedophile rings too especially too.
>>536262839Guidence requires restriction, so does disciplineYou have no beliefs, no ideals and therefore no prescriptions.
>>536251921>muh rat race>muh debt>muh plebeian blood lineExcellent arguments my friend.
>>536263304Guidance requires understanding, otherwise you're guiding people into ignorance.
>>536250863Ok krautkike
>>536262619Has it occured to you that maybe monogameme and marriage/partnership beyond 30s is perhaps strange and unnecessary? We already all have bodycounts now, why are we expected to make marriages work forever? Or even get married at all? Monogameme has been thoroughly deboonked by moderners.
With current technology, porn can be replaced with AI entirely to remove any chance of girls being exploited, trafficked, and abused to film them engaging in sex acts.You could even nationalize porn, and keep the onlyfans model going and let simps donate to their favorite ai porn star.
>>536263185>what aboutismCool, what about the public school system, fostet care system, muslims, and orthodox jews.Bring up their grooming/child rape statsAgain your ideals dont existYou believe in whats popular so that you dont need beliefs;*
>>536250863Trying to turn this into a moralfag debate is retarded when it's obvious the point of these laws is to dupe normalfag cattle into IDing themselves so it's easier to track them online. It's not a porn ban, it's a porn tax
>>53626335>understandingThats not a refutation on what I saidYou said limitations are not necessary for guidrnce
>>536263357See>>536263652Then kys
>>536263180I think early porn exposure can lean into addictive personality traits for better or worse. When Kanye West released his song "cousins" in which he admitted to sucking his cousins dick, it wasn't about him "being gay". It was about children having access to porn, and then trying to act out the things they were seeing. most people gloss over the morale of the story for cheap gay jokes, but I would posit that Kanye at least knows he's not gay and has had more pussy than anyone trying to call him gay.He's spoke in interviews about how you used to have porn behind a curtain, and there was a barrier to get it... however w\ smart phones kids have goon material at their fingertips. I think my early access drove a lifelong obsession w\ sex and pussy.
>>536263066The rest of your post were mostly schizo babble. People already educate kids about "stranger danger" or not giving away personal info to random people on the internet. >>536263586>public school system, fostet care system, muslims, and orthodox jews.Same thing, I already addressed that before. Ideals are based on practicality, and practicality is based on tried and tested methods i.e. evidence or papers. And I look at the evidence of what had already happened.
>>536263180Answer the question HansIs it bad to lie for an ideal?
>>536263748Exactly, availability of smartphones like the IPhone matches the point when the US birthrate started nosediving.
>>536263748Kanye is a goofy nigger. Yeah, those are zesty and retarded. Not watching porn wouldn't save him from being zesty and retarded.
>>536263748Broham, the """moral""" of that RIAA talmudic slop is that that nigger is a raped ass slave to the monsters who run this society and he's to be humiliated for fucking around with all that hitler shit in order to kiss the ring and not be put to death.If you look at anything produced by a kike and integrate it into your worldview as truth, you are already fucking dead.
>>536263652Nope, restriction into ignorance are not necessary for guidance, because there is no understanding there. You basically want your kids to think people make babies off of flying birds in the sky until their 18 instead of slowly guiding them how relationships work, especially through literature.
>>536263891It also matches the economic depression and housing bubble inflation. Guess which is more likely to correlate with birth rates?
>>536263932And this type of restrictive helicoptering is damaging, traumatic, and even shameful, especially when compared to peers. You need to read more books on how the human mind works.
>>536263839>ideals are practicalSauce?>ideals are concensus drivenYour ideals are concensus driven. If the concensus changed your ideals will too, other wise how would you be right?
>>536264143Ideals are based on practicality. You can't just tell me "Sauce?" when I tell you that CP is bad. What next, you're gonna defend CP now because you're a contrarian?
>>536263932Yeah, my Catholicism cockblocked me more than anything else. Fornication bad, also only fuck woman you will be with for the rest of your life! Simple as! And as a result of that, I ignored a bunch of interested girls because of flaws that didn't matter to my dick (the contents of their skulls). Monogamy and Christian sexual morals will totally screw you up in this day and age.
>>536264220But at least I'm glad I didn't get anyone preggo by accident. That would be fucked.
>>536250863A German flag is PERFEECT for this kike shit Everything wrong in the world goes to the fact the West lost ww2 and the jews and Communists won
>>536264308West won in WW2. You're the West. Germans were more like the Soviets than the Americans. Anyway, much like everyone else ITT, you did nothing to refute him.
>>536263932>strawman>projection>reworking the term helicopter parentI see what this is nowLets see how we got hereI claimed guidence and discipline require limitations, and that you have no ideals and hence can offer nonprescriptions. You counter with>whataboutisms>strawman>projectionsK;*Good luck with your kids
>>536263839Because youre a nigger who can't comprehend the endless families at the front end of the bell curve that hand their kids phones with unfettered access to websites that have one click verifications to see endless unexplained horrors that are masked as "educational" by this insectoid
>>536254760I hope a turk throws you into a wood chipper feet first.
>>536250863everyone doxx this pedo ASAPalso flag
>>536254760Ok this is tone deaf as fuck. You're clearly new here.
>>536264220I've known at least a couple of people who went into depressive states, panic attacks, and trauma rehab due to religious christian cults, especially growing up in one. It's definitely not easy when the people you used to trust the most are the least reliable.>>536264432I've already addressed all of those, and if you have anything that I haven't answered you would've said it by now. You had no reply to >>536264190 and are now resorting to whatever you're doing.
>>536264580My family isn't cultic or deeply religious. They're nominal Christians who don't have a clue about the religion, like most of them. I was simply smarter and actually studied the religion since a young age and thought greatly about it.
>>536264190>ideals are practical>CP bad = practicalSo close anon, but practical is not an indication of moralityExample, in other cultures CP is not a thing to be villified, its practical for them, so it would be for you right?
>>536264580Also, most Christians are hypocrites, witting or not. Being consistent with my religion, I couldn't adapt to normie cognitive dissonance reality.
>>536264654The negative effects of CP to a child is measurable and have been scientifically proven, especially to cause trauma and perpetual distress. You're strawmanning me about morality when I only mentioned about practicality. Something objectively harmful is practically bad. Any other argument you make against it is in defense of CP.
