If you are making between 60k and 30k USD, you are in the “goyim zone” and need to drop out of society asap. Not enough to ever save for a house or retirement, but too much to get government benefits. I recommend the vanpill personally.> buy cheap Chevy van 5k at auction> fix it up, put bed inside> can stay indefinitely for free at Walmart / national forest etc> stealth camping also an option depending on city> can travel country for cheap> adventurous lifestyle> find sexy rock climber / hippie type gf> smoke good weed and fuck her every nightNo woman ever wants a goyslave wagecel. Dropping out of society to live a bohemian lifestyle is 100x more attractive to women.
>>537210758>If you are making between 60k and 30k USD, you are in the “goyim zone” and need to drop out of society asapjidf shill trying to get the salt of the earth to stop being the foundation of america.boo this jew.
>>537210758is that... hair?! on those legs???
>>537210885>trying to get the salt of the earth to stop being the foundation of america.It stopped being this way when 30-60k started being defined as "middle class". If we went back to post WWII economy where "middle class" meant 300k/year for a dual income household, I'd agree with you.but op is right. if you aren't pulling 150k/year you're NGMI and opting out is a way better choice than whatever the fuck you think
>>537210758I bet she smells ripe.
>>537210758>Cant shit>Cant shower>Hard to make home cooked meals>No water>Kicked out of everywhere >Increasingly uninsurable>$120 K “starter van”And let us not forget the constant threat of Night Niggers.
>>537210758FUCK YOU RABBI.BURN IN HELL.
>>537211154fuckin roadside seafood stand in there
I think you got a good idea op but it only really kind of works if you have savings. Also you really aren't getting a decent van post covid for less than 10k and even then it's gonna be 220k miles which is when contractors sell them because the transmission shits out around then. Might be better getting a minivan owned by a granny in that situation. I personally wanted a van but settled for a Prius since it can function as a 'generator on wheels' if you leave it on overnight with full ac and inverter for a fridge but you essentially are sleeping in a coffin you can't comfortably sit up in. I almost paid 7k for mine at a dealer but ended up finding a granny that wanted to get rid of hers and it was $3.5k.
>>537211200true. they do make 4x4 campers with a shower and toilet and space for a kitchen and applicances, but at that point you might as well buy a starter home in an affordable state.
>>537211200>shit on the street >shower in the gym>hot plate and burner>go everywhere>kill gf and self after fucking for 5 hours in front of Taco Bell it doesn't sound that bad
Where do I put my 5 monitors, gaming PC, and my server rack in the van?
>>537210758Sweet ballsack, sis. You gonna make a vanlife youtube channel? There's only 6 million of them
>>537211513for me, it's Foresty Forest
>>537211502You could actually probably fit all of that in a regular van if you sat on the floor and definitely fit all that shit in if you got a box or sprinter.What's the depth of your desk op? Standard depth for desks is 24 in which is way to claustrophobic for me I like 36 inches plus so I can clutter shit desu.
>>537211588>Foresty Forest, he lives in a van ...>Foresty ForestHis new gf seems likea winner.
>>537211200You're just useless and couldn't do any of things anyway
>>537210758WOULD
>>537211200>constant threat of Night Niggers
>>537210758>> buy cheap Chevy van 5k at auctionrent for a single here is 7k a year 8k if you count for water and stuff. Surely rent in the US isn't that expansive.
>>537211437>starter home in an affordable state.hahahhahahah
>>537212218You just scared the fuck outta me...Nowhere is safe, really.
>>537212323>hahahhahahahThis.There's literally nowhere to go except for a trailer park.
>>537210758That shit looks hot and uncomfortable. I need my AC
>>537210758I'd put my dick in there no questions askedI'm just so lonely
>>537211903>I LIKE TO PROJECT ONTO OTHERS MY OWN SHORTCOMINGS AND LACK OR FORESIGHTYoure a fat hopeless virgin
>>537210758I'll probably become a homeless hacker running from the law who becomes a millionaire through blackhatting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-VfaG9ZN_U&list=RDZ-VfaG9ZN_U&start_radio=1&t=607sIn the end I'll join the German community that forms in Iran and hack Israel and... others, for the Iranian government.
>>537210758Can't you fucking retards claim for disability benefits?Even shit hole countries have that It's not much but it lets you rot without working for this society
>>537211888checked for mr forest
>>537212720foids always on yo mind.weak fucking faggot.burn in hell.
>>537212878That's if I don't die from ARFID. And if my ARFID is cured.
>>537212913Nope I'm in church on sundays heh
>>537211200Here's something you need to know. The popular of bears is directly inverse to the population of niggers. Bears are predictable.
>>537210758Work seasonal work. Pretty easy to do. Showing up is probably 90% of it. Some seasonal jobs will have onsite housing.
>>537211467Shower in lakes/rivers/streams for free. Just get some cheap shampoo to scrub nuts and butthole.
>>537213036Bears are the niggers of the woods.
>>537210758Van is too cramped. Better off getting a Coleman lantern 17b, a Decent truck, and just work part time washing puppies and ubering with a second car if you can. You will make bank if you can pinch every penny and live near a decent sized city.
>>537211888she is, but I sorta like his older videos more. wish he'd do more multi day backing stuff in BC. course he's older now and that stuff is brutal, plus I don't think his gf is in the same shape as him
>>537210758>troon image>hairy nassy legsSociety aint be hating homos enough yet.
>>537211888The previous one had a better body--the one in the minivan. Also the guy has had 3 girlfriends (that we know about) in like 5 years. Pretty good for a guy who doesn't shower and shits in the woods and talks like a robot. I still like his channel. I don't think he should have bought that huge RV pickup camper thing but i guess he thought his old van was falling apart.
>>537213365I find the nonstop mountain climbing boring. Every fucking hike is the same thing. I get that is his thing but i skip thru most of it. I like the build videos and the bike/camp videos. The kid was abducted in mexico by the cartel when he was younger on trip (on bike?). Its in one of his old videos.
>>537210758i love hairy pussy
>>537212995church false christian fuckyou def going to hell.gonna spit in yo face on judgement day.
>>537210955Hey now.. that's someone son you're talking about anon..have some respect.
>>537210758>get raped robbed and scammed by other vagrants>basically be homeless, drug use inevitable>nobody wants you around>eventually van gets impounded
I lived as an illegal immigrant in California USA for two years, living off a DR650 allowed me to ride into free camping public land to set my tent, and then ride into the city to hang out during the daytime. Perfect weather all the time, rarely rains, beautiful landscape. It was an unbelievably amazing lifestyle, the cost of living is still too high in California though and I wasn't sure if other states had the same protections for illegal immigrants as California so I had to go back to Poland. If I could do it again I would.
>>537211200>Cant shitUse a bush or a bucket filled with sawdust or something, or just go to a public toilet. >Cant showerWater dispenser or electric shower head. River or stream. Lake, coast. Or just use a sink. Or pour some from a bottle over your head, nigga. >Hard to make home cooked mealsNo it isn't. Gas cooker, pan on top, food in pan. Not fucking hard at all. >No waterAre you retarded? >Kicked out of everywhere Don't drive a car that sticks out or has a bunch of blinking flashing lights in the middle of the night. Don't park in a neighborhood with cranky boomers. Use your brain. >Increasingly uninsurableWho gives a shit>$120 K “starter van”You can get a van or small van with the camper conversion much lower than that.
>>537213736This, if you think people who live in the rules of society are bad just wait until you're around the people who don't.
>>537210955disgusting lesbo things
>>537213354>a Decent truckthat will be $100,000 plus tip plus $700/month insurance sir
>>537210758>has to shit in a bucket full of sawdust in a 90 degree vanNo thanks
>>53721115495% of hippie chicks are absolutely revolting t. glassblower
>>537213603same
>>537210885just be salt of the earth and work as a slave for no long-term lasting benefit.30k is not even enough to pay the rent and gasoline needed to have an apartment and get to work, let alone eat.If that's all you're earning at a full time job, then you're being exploited.
>>537210758how do you expect to renew your tags or license without an address?
>>537213354Looks very based and cheap at 14k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aJDbzLtREA
This isn’t good advice and all the people who do this without turning into meth addicts have eye watering sums in their bank accounts and LARP as being poorIf I was unfortunate enough to live in the US and had lower paid work I’d move to west virginia and mine coal or something like that or go get a job putting up power poles in Utah. Live in a trailer and track UFOs. Do something other than attempt to VAN LIFE it because the people doing that are literally millionaires and when it goes wrong they just call their dad who wires them what you make in a year to their fun times account
>>537210758I make 0k what now
>no shower >no toilet >no real running water>sleeping in sketchy areas, near hobos>you either have no fridge or you're sleeping next to it inb4>get a gym membership and shower with niggers >schedule your shitting like a convict
>>537210758it would be way cheaper with a higher standard of living to just buy this place. its on 10 acres, you could make your own rttl like aarvroll
>>537214804are you telling me you shit at random times, Im already on a schedule nigga
>>537214181there’s no way you can truly make good meals out of a fucking van. some of us need more than pickled herring and rye bread smeared in fucking lingonberries or something, sven.
>>537210758>buy cheap Chevy van 5k at auctionNOEnough of these vanlife threads where there is no DIY setup with precise indications on what's the best option, only vagueposting shit.We need to do better.>which van/utilitary van are the best>what bed>storage setup>electric setup>water setup>pipicaca setup>projector setup>internet setup>protection setup>cleaning setup>repair tool kits setup>basic fixing knowledge needed>best locations to settle>places where to find weedmaxxed hippie roasties>etcYou are going to convince nobody if you don't give accurate and factual material to help.
>>537214832holy fuck you can build a villa here with that kind of money
>>537214907Lets pretend i have 150K€ cash, how comfy of a life i can have in Romania?
>>537210758why does she have hairy legs?i thought women legs are smooth like butter
>>537214867It isn't hard at all, and there's americans that do that all the time I'm surprised you're so ignorant about this. Do I need to explain to you how a gas cooker with a steel pan on top works? Do I describe to you the process of cooking burgers, putting them between some brioche buns with garlic cucumber sauces etc? Or how to cook a steak? You do know how to cook, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfvZ5wveUow
>>537215139it depends. are you trying to live in the city? that's how much an apartment costs in the city center.
>>537215162I used to have an alger*an gf who was more hairy than me. Especially the belly button and neck, and quite a bit on the arms too. She was very ashamed of it in winter when her skin was pale and the hair very dark, but it wasn't much of an issue in summer (tan + hair getting "blondier"). She was shaving her legs like every 3 days.Thankfully she was sexy but ngl it's quite a turn off on girls.
>>537215446No i want to live far away from others humans BUT i might need to have occasional sexual intercourse with prostitutes. Romanians and albanians are the cheapest girls over here (i mean decent girls, i could get a toothless methhead nigress for less, but i want to enjoy my time), so i hope the tarifs are quite low at home?
>>537215524> Especially the belly button and neck, and quite a bit on the arms toomy reasons for not marrying women have increased by 3
>>537215679Can confirm, i married her and it was quite the mistake. The hair didn't go away but she became increasingly annoying. Thankfully it didn't last since she cucked me with of one her colleague (i wasn't mad since he was a Chad).
>>537210885You can pay up for that foundation or fuck off. Life is expensive and employers have proven they'll do ANYTHING to avoid paying a decent wage. They will destroy their own nation with illegal immigration, they will spend billions on AI to replace workers. But if you ask them to pay an "essential worker" enough to afford a one bedroom apartment, they all have meltdowns and tell you this destroy the economy and make shit more expensive. But asset hyperinflation and massive government spending on illegal immigrants was great and totally didn't make everything more expensive.
>>537215655so you either go near the mountains. usually prettier. or you go somewhere near the Delta. which is sparsely populated. kinda redneck. Russian drones drop from time to time. going in a place like Oradea might be an option because it has the old world architecture. but you might as well stay in France..I think the Reșița area is your best bet.good geography.mountainous, forests, near the Danube. not very populated. probably the cheapest place in Romania right now.
>>537214441Right. Or have an address for heath insurance and mail. It gets complicated the older you get.
>>537210758unless I have one of those baddies, no way I going for this style, I need my shower, my cook/water, heater/cooler, etc.it's freezing here most years so not easy
>>537211200it's probably easier in US, here you can't park anywhere, even walmart, and with gas prices, no way
>>537216095>mountainous, forests, near the Danube.That's all i love, lets go for Resita. What should i be aware of before settling there?Do locals speak a bit of english? I guess i could learn a bit of romanian, it look very close to french since we both were roman colonies (at least on paper, orally idk).
>>537214887if you want to , get japnese dayna, small and very powerful, but US ban them for obvious reasons
>>537216171The electric setup must be a nightmare for leafs trying to vanlife. It's not like slapping a pair of solar panels on the roof would be nearly enough.
>>537216353Yeah i'd love to, they are forbidden here too, to "protect" our shitty car makers (haven't done a good car since 2001).
Imagine getting a foodjob from a rock climber
>>537216368not the biggest issue, the bigest one is where to park and cold, it can get here -35 easily
The CCP is busy today it seems
>>537210955my type
If you’re making $60k probably the only thing stopping you from making $100k is laziness.
>>537216289usually those under 40 speak english. Romanian is closer to Italian. sort of.
>>537213354those kinds of trailers leak like crazy they have the shittiest construction imaginable. At least get one of the single piece fiberglass shell ones, Rpod I think it's called. Or convert a van or box truck if you're a big spender
>>537216264>with gas pricesWhich are plummeting. I filled up at $4.39 last week and today the same station is at $3.69. NYC
>>537216474>not the biggest issue, the bigest one is where to park and coldAnd condensation, which might be the very biggest and oft overlooked issue.
>>537216520timothee chalamet
I love when /pol/sters pretend that economic conditions can be predicted for the mid term as it is obvious that this world will one way or another collapse entirely only a few years from now.I do not worry at all about how my life now will look like in ten years, because I know we will live in a completely different world with completely different rules by then. If the enemy wins, 90% of us will be cut down and the rest enslaved (this won't happen). If humanity wins, all of the fabricated economic pressure and societal fracturing that tortures us today will vanish into thin air.
>>537216171guaarantee anyone who actually drives that is an insufferable faggot
>>537210758Would give her gas money for a sniff of those feet
>>537210758I make $75k.It's not what $75k was a decade ago..It feels exactly like when I was making ~$50k in my mid 20's, where I can have a life or I can save, but I'm not doing a lot of both.The worst part is how vividly aware I am of inflation now and know I can't just get comfy at $75k. Instead I need to work my way to $100k and by the time I get there it won't be long until $100k is the new $75k.
>>537217508>won't be long until $100k is the new $75kyou'll be lucky if it doesn't become the 50k of your twenties lol
>>537213789Motorcycle, sleeping bag and tent seems pretty based if there is a public camping site that lets you pay to wash up, wash your clothes, use wifi. Shitting in the woods isn't so bad if there is a nearby well maintained shower. Sounds like the life desu.
>>5372107581ptid
>>537217508Good news: you will be dead before that!
>>537216520Is this a pooner or twink?Would fuck either way.
>>537217508I hate life so fucking much.
I'm considering getting a Toyota Sienna Hybrid and living in it. I am so bored. There is no future for me waging and living in an apartment. I will die stuck in this exact same spot. I'm not gaining ground, only losing it. So thinking about a family and a house and a retirement becomes more and more futile as time goes on. I would continue to be patient if it would pay off, but the last 10 years have proven that it won't, it will only get worse.
i make less than that and own a house
>>537215414 bullshit. I need a countertop, a big fridge, multiple burners, and an oven. I’m not eating burgers and steak every fucking day. have fun in your lutefisk van though.
>>537217508whatever you do, don't plug in $50k into an inflation calculator set to 2016.
>>537210758Worth doing for 6 months to a year. Just enough to enjoy the freedom and get dome cool stories, but dont let your life pass you by.
>>537218123>I hate steak Okay anon, get your test levels checked. And you seem like you're pretending to be retarded at this point or just ignoring what I'm saying, I gave you some examples its not the only thing you need to eat. Multiple burner cookers exist, you can use different appliances etc if you want to spend money on that. But all that just makes you sound like a helpless gay baby.
>>537218623Steak every night sounds based. Steak and potatoes, steak and egg, steak salad with tomatoes. Having tuna every other night to switch it up would be even better but yea that anon sounds like a woman
>>537217994Pick an adventure and go for it. Time goes by faster and faster. If you don't plan on making a family try to live for yourself in your second half. Godspeed.
>>537216520She's just waiting for the right emo guy with a lip piercing to be like>Hey gurl, I like your style, wanna go out?And she'll show up with her legs shaved and makeup on.
>>537210758Sounds dangerous, what if blacks break into your van while you are asleep?
>>537219620Wake up and shoot them
>>537217508I'm in the same situation. I either climb the ladder, and put more stress on my body and my sanity for little to no gain or I go the other way, and take a chill low-paying job but focus on my self getting fit and enjoying the small things in life.
>>537218149i'm legit 2spooped2do itplease some anon with more courage than i have, drop the figgies
>>537215414Its not hard i do it camping all the time. Keep in mind you are likely talking to some brown immigrant in a major US city and less likely a rural guy who goes outdoors, few of them post on hete.
>>537216163Family member address? South Dakota still an option? Some vanlife fag i know uses Nevada but i think you need to spend a month a year there or some shit. A western state might work better--just overwinter in the one you take residency. Just use a local address and intercept mail?
>>537210758>Goyslave wagecelFucking KEK
>>537211057This
I’m 26, still living at home because I can’t even afford rent on my slave wage job. My parents remind me every day how pathetic that is, like I don’t already wake up every morning with a pit in my stomach. “Work harder,” they say. “Get more hours.” As if I’m not already grinding 10-hour shifts like a dog just to barely afford gas and instant noodles. Like slaving away harder is suddenly going to magically spawn affordable housing or a livable wage. Delusional.And then there’s Pan Piano. This woman has life handed to her on a velvet platter because she was born with tits and figured out how to weaponize them. That’s it. That’s literally it. She puts on a sexy Nezuko cosplay, half her chest hanging out, sits at a piano, barely moves her hands, and somehow that’s worth millions. No speaking, no charisma, no effort beyond squeezing into a costume and pressing a few keys.She doesn’t even have to engage with people. Just films a cleavage shot with some anime tune playing and the simps line up to throw money at her like she’s a goddess. Meanwhile, I’m treated like human garbage by customers, my boss, and my own family—and what do I get in return? Less than nothing. A life that’s going nowhere. My only “luxury” is sleeping in a bedroom I haven’t redecorated since middle school.Why does she get everything for doing nothing? Why is she celebrated for just existing while I’m told I’m not trying hard enough, not doing enough, not being enough?I’m so bitter I can taste it. I don’t even hate her because she’s successful. I hate that she gets to coast while people like me are treated like burdens for simply surviving.This world rewards surface-level bullshit and punishes effort unless you’re already pretty or connected. There’s no justice, no fairness. Just Pan Piano living in luxury for shaking her tits in cosplay while I rot under fluorescent lights for crumbs and get told “you just need to work harder.”Fuck.
>>537211200>Cant showerMost people do not was their asshole with a cloth or paper towel in the shower so whats the point of a shower In the US?
>>537210758I agree. Everything is easily doable except finding the QT that will be DTF on this deal.
>>537210885You're correct br wrong, they are keeping up what you call "america" Do you really want that to be help up? You're American so on a genetic level you cant handle actual hard times but they have arrived for you and you should take a Europeans advice when he says, sink or swim. Cope only hurts you more. Which i find hilarious frankly, but surely you're sick of it?
>>537210758> buy cheap Fulmar Or Sadler boat 30k at auction> fix it up, already has bed and toilet inside her> can stay indefinitely for free along coastal anchorage, and cruising permits> paying marina also an option depending on city> can travel country for cheap> adventurous lifestyle> find sexy sailor / hippie type gf> sail and read books until you fall asleep on anchorNo woman ever wants a goyslave wagecel. Dropping out of society to live a sailor lifestyle is 100x more attractive to me
>>537223465https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxthF9o9k0YThis dude has balls to do it.
>>537213354Did RV life for twoish years in a travel trailer during covid. You really don't save anything over a mortgage unless you go to out of the way RV parks and stay in the site for a month or two. I'm remote, so going to interesting off the beaten path places and staying for a couple months was the best. Worst part is it is no longer cheap, you will be surrounded by asshole entitled boomers at the good RV spots, poor and sometimes sketchy people at the cheap ones, laundry is expensive, and bad weather is kinda scary. Went through a few REALLY wild TX storms. EVERYTHING requires a residential address, so being a vagabond makes paperwork suck extra hard.
>>537210758ok but how do you eat or make money retard
>>537210758What about under 30k
