Did Big Meat™ create the myth that a plant based diet is bad for the environment and takes up a lot of land? It's literally the opposite.
>>537324605Go be a faggot somewhere else please
>>537324793memeflags will be turned into fertilizer
>There are over 30 billion livestock animals alive globally at any given time. Because these animals are primarily raised for consumption, an estimated 80 to 85 billion are raised and slaughtered for meat, dairy, and eggs each year.No one actually believes this is better for the environment, they just want to have their meat pie and eat it too.
>>537324605>myth that a plant based diet is bad for the environment and takes up a lot of land? It's literally the opposite.literally nobody thinks so. still eating meat because it's tasty though
>>537325004>>537325110it's quite sad. I also think Big Meat™ has pushed the narrative that soi is bad for men, because it's cheaper and just as high protein as meat.
>>537325345I have either soi protein isolate, soi milk, or tofu with almost every meal at this point
>>537325345it may not be bad but who cares? I'm not a poor third worlder to not be able to afford proper human meat. quark and eggs also contain a lot of protein (and they don't taste like shit unlike soi)
>>537325786>but who cares?it's not spiritually good to turn your body into a graveyard, especially of animals who only ever knew suffering and misery. there's a reason why plant based diet has historically been practiced by christian/vedic monks and gurus.
>>537325967you can't go anywhere in that direction with this boardlike they were gonna call you a jeet anyway but now that's all you're gonna get
>>537325967>there's a reason why plant based diet has historically been practiced by christian/vedic monks and gurus.because meat was rare and expensive throughout the history. most likely it was just a form of asceticism (if we don't count buddhists and the fact that jeets think that cows are sacred)
Fag jeet jew thread alert
>>537324605Nah, cuh. It's Big Vegan™. They want us weaker than the immigrants
know, but the sad reality is that most people don't care about animal suffering as long as they get their tendies. I get through better if I bring up how it will spiritually impact them.>>537326244>because meat was rare and expensive throughout the history.???? that applies to normal plebs, not monks and gurus who abstained from meat and other indulgences willingly. it goes further back to orphic cults in ancient greece who refused to eat meat.
>>537324605this is a retarded slide thread based on wilful ignorance. factory farms are extremely detrimental but we also have way too many people on this planet. if you want meat, you should hunt your own game and skin it and butcher it yourself. then you'd appreciate it more and the animal would actually have a good life.
>>537326558good post. can you talk more about how the factory farming industry induces negative spirituality? i mean obviously the animals suffer tremendously but what effect would that have on the consumer?also, people who work in slaughterhouses/factory farms tend to get really messed up or psychotic after working there.
>>537326589>we also have way too many people on this planetpeople on here don't want to hear that either lol
>>537326734kek. i'm not as misanthropic as i used to be but that's just a fact. it's nice to see posters such as yourself that consider the spiritual ramifications of the meat industry,
>>537324605>heard animal manure harms the environmentCan you people just stop lying?
>>537326900what?
>>537326734Maybe stop feeding Africa and India?
>>537327046explain how herd animal shit harms the environment
>>537326695>also, people who work in slaughterhouses/factory farms tend to get really messed up or psychotic after working there.it's literally PTSD>>537326827people on here are misanthropic, but despite dropping conservatism as a whole they maintain the exact same pavlovian cuckservative reaction to certain phrases like depopulation, climate change, etc.>>537327128Me?
I urge anyone to have a whiff of a poultry factory farm smell. The shit they produce there is rancid, most broiler chickens look like ugly rotten motherfuckers too.I'm not an anti meat faggot so I say that one should be forced to hunt and butcher their own meat. It stops pussies from eating it and lets the actual top of the foodchain red blooded men enjoy a high quality meal.>>537325004Billions must die.
>>537327254>but despite dropping conservatism as a whole they maintain the exact same pavlovian cuckservative reaction to certain phrases like depopulation, climate change, etc.desu, it's pretty obvious why, everyone wants to fit in which makes no sense to me on an imageboard but i digress. consider that a lot of people are easily susceptible to propaganda. if pol says that the sky is green then stating otherwise must mean you're a kike, a jeet, or a d&c shill. i wouldn't care so much if it didn't infest other boards with this stupid line of thinking.
>>537327178cause there's fucking 30 billion of themhttps://youtu.be/kKAoYvy8rVAhttps://youtu.be/G-9xFQEExmMhttps://youtu.be/k4Sx_6Anw8whttps://youtu.be/be-79x4kNg8https://youtu.be/yDQrVVcJvx8https://youtu.be/fPzQIb-lAfAhttps://youtu.be/CZH7yctuRHUhttps://youtu.be/u9pgmCWkpLM
>>537327128we OBVIOUSLY need less of them, but most meat eaters are in the west and east asia. >>537327178do you know how many forests have been destroyed all so cows can eat grass
>>537324605Kinda shitty when I go around arizona and all the areas where cattle graze have nothing but prickly pears left. If it was limited to shithole states lik texas I would feel better about it.
>>537327833Yeah you do you, eat ze bugs,i don’t care,I will eat the meat
>>537324605"Impossible" meat is just mashed up soibeans. Eating this has basically the same effect of taking estrogen pills. People see the word "protein" and don't think anything beyond that.
>>537328236>derrrr soi bad for you because /pol/ infographic said soI don't like the ultraprocessed fake meat, but I regularly eat tofu and I am fine.
>>537328322Fag with so titties
>>537328522Soi
>>537325345>high protein as meatYeah but are shitty proteins, and onions increase yours estrogen levels
>>537328163>>537328522>>537328707soi is a complete protein, it is one of the only plants that is a completely protein, it's a clean efficient way to gain muscle. Your loss. You are afraid of some plant estrogens in soi, when cow milk has literal female hormones that actually cause gyno in males.dumbass chuds
>>537325004Just a tidbit of trivia for you lot, "eat" goes before "have". You can eat what you have, you can't have what you've already eaten.
>>537325345>>537325727tofu isn't bad afaik, but szoy protein isolates raise the hell out of your igf-1, which is a growth hormone. this causes not only muscle growth, but cancer cell growth. it also causes calcium loss, and with it kidney stones. https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/information-all/onions-food-wonder-drug-or-poison/this is worth noting too, that asians don't really eat that much tofu or onions at all besides sauce>In Asian countries, onions is consumed as boiled basedbeans (edamame), tofu (basedbean curd), natto (fermented basedbeans), miso (fermented basedbean paste), okara (a by-product of tofu), basedbean sprouts, basedmilk, yuba (by-product of onions milk), kinako (onions flour), and onions sauce. These foods are made from simple processes like grinding, precipitation, and fermentation – thus, most of onions’s ingredients remain little altered. Less than 5% of daily calories in the typical diet of Japanese or Chinese people comes from basedbeans. This amounts to about 2 ounces (55 to 64 grams) derived from onions foods daily, which means only 7 to 8 grams of protein and 15 to 45 milligrams of the estrogen-like phytochemical known as isoflavone. How could this tiny amount of onions food make a measurable difference – positive or negative – to the health of Asians?another thing is that people think they needs tons of protein, and that more is somehow better, when the reverse is true. there is no need for these manufactured products or fake meat. it also reinforces the fallacy that meat is necessary, and that you need some sort of approximation of it in your diet. also that giving up meat is some kind of martyr thing, which really attracts the wrong people. eating too much protein is not good, it is a waste that the body needs to get rid of. white rice alone has 1.5x the protein you need
>>537324605Veganism strongly overlaps with leftist faggotry. I doubt that's by coincidence. Show me a large, tangible group of people who aren't gigantic faggots and are vegan, and I'll consider it as legitimate. Otherwise, "company you keep" destroys this entire argument. Trait clustering is real; high empathy for lower life forms + low engagement + low dominance = cucked faggots that are easy to defeat or control. When the Romans built the coliseum they celebrated by massacring like 50,000 animals in it. That's what a masculine culture does with high achievement. Vegans, christcucks, ascetics, etc will never accomplish great things because they lack the core desires, ambitions, willpower, and capabilities that overlap with things like eating meat or hunting/killing animals.
>>537327178manure which has not been composted messes up all kinds of things in the soil. also the runoff into rivers as well as groundwater, but that's more of a pig problem. they keep massive shit lagoons, and when there's heavy rain or hurricanes, which there always are, the shit goes everywhere.their uncomposted shit is full of e coli and parasites, this is not stuff you want on you or your food. and food grown for animal feed is often contaminated with pathogens from spreading human waste, and whatever else goes down the drain or into a porta-potty, onto the fields. this is a big issue in ontario. they have these massive sprinklers that look like artillery pieces spraying this liquid all over the fields. there is a brown mist all over, and the air smells for kms away. there are often candy wrappers and cigarette butts etc in the liquid as well. so the animals you eat, eat all kinds of fucked up stuff, including chemical waste, bacteria, and parasites.i have a big ai rundown i will paste>The land application of human waste, specifically sewage biosolids and septage, on Ontario farms presents several documented harms and public health concerns, despite being a regulated practice for nutrient recycling. Health and Safety RisksPathogen Exposure: Biosolids can contain E. coli, viruses, parasites, and antibiotic resistance genes. Studies indicate that crops harvested in the same season as application risk contamination, and airborne pathogens from wet sludge can cause illness in nearby residents, including open sores and respiratory issues.Chemical Contamination: The waste often contains heavy metals (lead, cadmium, arsenic), pharmaceuticals, hormones, and persistent organic pollutants like PFAS. These substances can accumulate in the soil, enter the food chain, and pose long-term toxic risks to humans and livestock.contd
>>537329100That expression is as old as the 1530s so don't be blaming us
>>537329806>Water Contamination: Runoff from applied biosolids can contaminate groundwater and surface water with nitrogen and phosphorus, leading to eutrophication and potential contamination of private well water, as seen in cases near Millbrook and Bruce CountyEnvironmental and Social ImpactsOdor and Quality of Life: Residents living near application sites frequently report severe odors, nausea, and embarrassment, with some describing rural areas as becoming "sewage dumps."Regulatory Gaps: Critics argue that enforcement is insufficient, with some septage being dumped without testing for pathogens or heavy metals. While Ontario prohibits spreading biosolids in winter and requires waiting periods for vegetable harvests, activists contend these measures do not fully mitigate the risks of long-term soil accumulation and cross-contamination. Regulatory ContextOntario’s Nutrient Management Act classifies biosolids as a Non-Agricultural Source Material (NASM) and prohibits land application between December 1 and March 31. The province maintains that the practice is safe when guidelines are followed, but has launched reviews to tighten rules following increased complaints and the Walkerton tragedy, which heightened awareness of fecal contamination risks.
>>537324605What happened to Little Meat™ anyways?
>>537327178>the Walkerton tragedymaybe you are too young for this, but the walkerton tragedy was a big deal when it happened>The Walkerton tragedy was a catastrophic E. coli O157:H7 and Campylobacter jejuni water contamination event in Walkerton, Ontario, in May 2000, resulting in seven deaths and over 2,300 illnesses. >Causes and Responsibility The outbreak was caused by heavy rainfall washing cattle manure into a shallow, improperly constructed well (Well 5). Stan and Frank Koebel, the untrained Public Utilities Commission (PUC) operators, failed to maintain proper chlorination levels and concealed positive test results from health officials, delaying a boil-water advisory. A provincial inquiry led by Justice Dennis O’Connor concluded the disaster was preventable, citing systemic failures including government budget cuts that weakened environmental oversight and privatized water testing. >Legal and Social Aftermath In 2004, the Koebeles pleaded guilty to common nuisance; Stan received one year in jail and Frank received house arrest. The tragedy prompted the Walkerton Inquiry, which led to the Safe Drinking Water Act and a mandatory multi-barrier approach to water safety in Ontario. The event is commemorated annually, with the 25th anniversary occurring in May 2025.
>>537329421Half of the shit Hitler and the Nazis believed in was "leftist faggotry" and you guys simp for them all the fucking time>>537329137hmm, might just eat beans instead then what about vital wheat gluten
>>537329895they all moved to Canada
>>537324605Its an objective fact that modern crops are utterly devoid of nutrients.
>>537328236the phytoestrogens in onions block estrogen receptors, they are similar but not the same. your body can't use it. the result is higher testosterone.vegans have higher test in general, but a bit more shbg since the bodhy doesn't like hormones out of whack. so it compensates.>Research indicates that vegans generally have higher total testosterone levels than meat-eaters, though their free (bioavailable) testosterone remains similar due to compensatory hormonal mechanisms. >Higher Total Testosterone: A major study published in the British Journal of Cancer found that vegans had 13% higher testosterone concentrations than meat-eaters and 8% higher than vegetarians. Another analysis suggested vegan men had 16% more testosterone than meat-eaters after adjusting for variables like age and exercise. >Higher SHBG: This increase in total testosterone is offset by significantly higher Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG) levels in vegans. SHBG binds to testosterone, rendering it inactive, which results in no significant difference in free testosterone between vegan and meat-eating men. >Lower IGF-1: Despite higher testosterone, vegans exhibit 9-16% lower levels of Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) compared to meat-eaters. This lower IGF-1 is associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer, potentially mitigating any risks associated with higher testosterone. >Confounding Factors: Some evidence suggests these differences may be partially attributed to vegans having lower body mass indices (BMI) and lower body fat, as fat tissue converts testosterone to estrogen via aromatization.
>>537324605My dick didn't create that myth. Stop blaming my dick, you vegan faggot basedboy
Hitler was a vegetarian
>>537330660Well I guess you're stuck with niggers.
>>537324605I am eating a lovely bacon and egg wrap right now, my third one. It's absolutely fantastic and I plan to consume many more throughout my life time.
>>537332462So was Leonardo da Vinci, Tesla, Voltaire, Pythagoras, Tolstoy, Kafka, Plotinus, Charles Manson, Mr. Rogers...
>>537329421how long have you been a welder in edmonton?>Show me a large, tangible group of people who aren't gigantic faggots and are vegan, and I'll consider it as legitimate. nobody cares about you enough to walk on your eggshells or jump through your hoops. >Trait clustering is real; high empathy for lower life forms + low engagement + low dominance = cucked this is a straw man. vegans routinely clash with police and do direct action. leftists in general are super violent, i have no idea where you are getting this impression, other than your metal-fumed mind. conservacucks are all, "oh, you just wait until the midterms, when i vote for the exact same person again!" most of these people are unhinged. https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/pdfs/Cheng%20et%20al.%20(2013)%20-%20Two%20Ways%20to%20the%20Top.pdfdominance is associated with dark triad traits, kind of like your personality.> Research distinguishes between Dominance (often associated with aggression or coercion) and Prestige (socially accepted respect), noting that high-dominance individuals may exhibit narcissistic or Machiavellian traits, while prestigious individuals are often agreeable and conscientious.>When the Romans built the coliseum they celebrated by massacring like 50,000 animals in itgood for them. romans also liked to pound each other in the ass and eat rats. the gladiators were vegetarians, bordering on vegan. they ate mostly barley, and were top athletes as well as sex symbols. >Vegans, christcucks, ascetics, etc will never accomplish great things because they lack the core desires, ambitions, willpower, and capabilities that overlap with things like eating meat or hunting/killing animals.carl lewis was a vegan and won 9 olympic gold medals, so there goes that. i'm not a christian, but there were all kinds of powerful christian leaders and others who did all kinds of great things.
>>537324605You people have literally no solution for the green water problem that animals inherently fix.
>>537325345The shit is fucking poison unless you ferment it. And americans just grind it up and throw it into everything as filler like they do with corn. Literal farm stock.
>>537324793fpbp
>>537324605Lol
>>537325967Christian monks do so as ascetism, not a moral judgement on meat eating, as Catholicism has it as a very obvious tenet of the religion that "it is not what goes into your mouth that defiles you, but what comes out". God made everything on the earth + gave man dominion over it, etc.
>>537330169>what about vital wheat gluteni've only just heard of this from you mentioning it. i also don't see the point. there is never a need for concentrated doses of pure protein. white flour has double the protein that your body requires, supposing you ate a calorically sufficient diet of nothing but white flour and water, which is pasta. whole wheat has 3x the protein that you need.there is no such thing as protein deficiency in people who actually eat enough calories. never happens. we have not discovered a diet low enough in protein to cause harm to humans, and people have tried in months long metabolic ward studies. it is a non-issue, pushed by marketing. they want you to think you need this.https://youtu.be/_KvyAylxBkQhttps://youtu.be/HjsAK_a-oLYas you can see from the previous pic, human milk is only 5% protein by calorie, and that is to make babies big really fast. think of protein like oil in the car's engine. it is not fuel. it needs to be the right kind of oil, as it serves a function. if you overfill the oil, you are not doing something smart, you are ruining the engine. the analogy breaks down because there isn't a low enough amount of protein in the diet to cause harm. all it does it grow your hair and nails, and put on muscle if you exercise. it does not give you energy, carbs and fats do.
>>537327128noooooooo u can't heccin stope heccin feeding the niggerinos!!! they'll all starve and die and that's baaaadd!!!World hunger needs to be solved by us or otherwise we're all bad people. the poor heccin niggerinos will eventually figure out to stop raping and fucking every female they see. I'm sure of it. Maybe at 6 billion africans world hunger will finally stop we won't know unless we try!ALL NIGGERINOS, COME TO THE WHITE MANS HOUSE HE WILL FEED YOU FOR FREE AND GIVE YOU CONDOMS TO MAKE BALOON ANIMALS WITH
