>Europoors ACTUALLY BELIEVE that their dehumidifiers are air conditionersWhat the fuck is their problem? Why are they so retarded? Why will they not accept the truth that they got scammed? These "portable air conditioners" are not actually air conditioners at all. Since the compressor is indoors (unlike how it would be outdoors on a real AC) all the extra heat gets released indoors, which then has to be blown outside via the large hose. This creates a negative pressure indoors, and hot humid air from outside will just come right back in. Eurokeks even have to empty the water bucket on most of these units, unlike real AC where it flows through a dedicated hose from inside to outside.How do we enlighten the Europoors? I know they're only on year 3 of indoor cooling technology, while we've been doing it a century, so I do feel pity. Of course, actual portable AC units do exist (like the Midea portasplit), but they cost $700+ unlike these dehumidifiers which cost $200.
>>537818754Must be magic then that mine makes my room significantly cooler.
OP IS A FAGGOT DUMBER THAN DOG SHIT
They also believe that drafts make you sick and that you can get "thermal shock" and die from running an AC.
>>537818754Mold prevention is more valuable than "air conditioning"
>>537818754i mean, an air conditioner is a dehumidifier with some coolant
which dehumidifier would you recommend? asking for my european friend
>>537818754Nigger what do you think happens when you reduce the humidity? Problem isn't the temperature its the temperature paired with 90% humidity
>>537818836It makes the air dryer at the cost of maintaining or even raising the temperature, unlike a real AC which makes the air both dryer and lower temperature. A real AC is also much more efficient and quieter. Sorry, europoor.>>537818944An air conditioner specifically separates the compressor and condenser outside. A dehumidifier does not do this.>>537818926Luckily for you, an AC prevents mold better than a dehumidifier. See the first reply.
>>537819004I just want you to stop calling dehumidifiers air conditioners. I don't actually care if you use them or if you feel cooler. I'm not arguing that dehumidifiers don't make a room feel cooler. But it's an inferior, wasteful, noisy solution. It is not an air conditioner.
>>537819009DUMB DUMByou have to be a nigger with that level of intelligence
There are tales in Europe of giant cities in a faraway land across the sea, each building with its own self-contained climate. It could control the indoor climate using esoteric technology, and some would even say that it’s magic. Many primitive European tribes say that the cities were built by the gods, but their more contemporary counterparts simply refer to the builders as “Americans”.
>>537818754everything anon said is true those portable units are pieces of shit do not buy them. They pulled such a vacuum in an apartment my ears would pop. Intolerable and not functional.
>>537819080>never said where I'm wrongI accept your concession.
>>537818836yes your room but not the whole house. they decrease the air quality somewhere else in the house.
>>537819106Based and true
>>537818754Shut up monkey
>>537819256Another retarded europoor. Sad. I'll give you another chance to figure out air conditioning technology, but after that there's no excuse.
>>537818754>Why are they so retardedThe 'hose' is actually inlet and outlet hoses in a coaxial arrangement.
>>537818878>OP IS A FAGGOT DUMBER THAN DOG SHITThis is a cold, hard fact.Here's a siren to warn othershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyZPc48TW4
>>537818754>American education
>>537819442Dual hose models are slightly better but they are still not air conditioners.>>537819490>>537819501>still not a single person telling me specifically where I am incorrectKeep coping. In less than 10 years you will be thanking me for teaching you what air conditioning is while your countrymen suffer with dehumidifiers.
>>537819303I give you a chance to shut the fuck up monkey
>>537818754OP the seething europoors are probably just one jeet or achmed VPN hopping to bot up the anti american replies. europeans at the World Cup love our AC and in France there are fights at stores over the units when the doors open
>>537819578>>537819501>>537819490post hand shitskin
>>537818754Your mother licks bird shit off stop signs.
>>537818754>This creates a negative pressure indoors, and hot humid air from outside will just come right back in. This is true but not enough to negate the cooling effect from the ac but it does make them noticeably less efficient, the compressor runs longer and reduced the lifespan of the unit. AND they're typically more expensive then window units.They work but they suck.
>>537818878/thread
>>537819669why would an american say that to another american dunking on the europoors?>1pbtid another botted anti american reply
>>537819578I will not be talked down to by a pathetic italian insect. Imagine once being the center of world culture for centuries, and now you are so completely irrelevant it isn't even funny. I can see why you are coping.
I am a lowly renter and got one of those dual hose setups, a Midea Duo, did I fuck up? Window units wont work with my windows.
>>537819743Why not the midea portasplit? It's an actual AC. Only difference is you need space for the outdoor unit
OP is a retarded faggot...HA HA!
>>537819627Now show your paw monkey, you won’t. RIP thread.
>>537819838>no arguments to the contraryAnother bot reply, sad
>>537818754they make portables with dual hosesthey aren't the best but they are quick and easy to install
>>537819824People here figured it out and the midea is impossible to find. Even Amazon doesn't have it anymore.
>>537818836>that mine makes my room significantly cooler.It doesn't, it drops the humidity.
>>537819866nice brown hand shitskin
>>537819824They're not available in North America.
>>537819866muslim pigdog hand. possibly a pajeet
>>537818754>>537819572The single hose models are not very efficient, but they WILL cool a room down. I have a dual hose model that definitely works to cool down a room. It's true that the compressor, evaporator, and condenser are all inside the room, but with a dual hose model it pulls air from outside, through the condenser, and exhausts the hot air straight back out again, so there's no vacuum created in the room to pull warm air in. Likewise, the evaporator just cycles the interior air to cool it down. Still not as efficient as a minisplit or even a window A/C, but it's not a bad option if that's all you can use because you rent or don't have the right kind of window.
>>537819977Show hand , i give banana. Or purple drank if you prefer.
>>537818754The hose is to vent warm air, moron.
>>537818754don't know, drops room temperature to 17 normal people superior temperature units, good enough for me.
>>537819866>SAAR SEE I AM WHITE SAAAAR
>>537820093That's exactly what I said, retard. Try reading the post next time. Real air conditioners don't have hoses to vent air because the compressor is outside.Retard. Delete your post.>>537820080What state are you in, anon? No one here in the south would even dare trying to get by with one of these dehumidifiers.
4chan brown nest confirmed, bunch of muttmonkeys in here sheesh.
>>537820238or worse , jews.
>>537820093Yeah but it uses the room air - air that's just been cooled - to cool other room air. Plus it creates a vacuum which pulls warm air into the room through cracks around door and vents. They're really just not an efficient design.>>537820210Washington
>>537819866Fatass go on a diet brownoid
European don't if the cap melt they go into an ice age. This is mainstream climate science.It's also why 50% of French people died the first year when the settled St-Croix Island.> We can calculate lattitude we are so smart. This place is south of Paris. > Gets rescued by stone age people with pine needle tea.Our gene pool has been purged of the climato-weak Europeans.
>>537820403West coast washington? This is probably one of the only places on earth where a dehumidifier actually makes sense because of the low temperature but high humidity. Still no point in subjecting yourself to the noise IMO.
>>537818754Watching the Euros here is hilarious. Like someone step into an alien planet >OMG it’s hot outside but you step inside anywhere and it’s like a fridge>i am rapidly cooling down omg>the whole stadium of 100,000 people has A/C throughout! How do they do that?!?They did not know this technology existed
>>537820424still no hands posted by thirdworlders on american vpn , sad monkeys.
>>537819009you are a retard. The heat expelled from the room is far higher than the amount of heat drawn into the room via negative pressure.Its correct that they are less efficient, but they do work. Also, ive had 2 of them running in my house for 3 years, the 2-3 times ive went to empty them, they have been empty anyway. Its a non issue.
Oh look, faggot OP is still posting.HA HA! What a dunce, he doesn't know how air conditioners work.
This is an AC just a very inefficient one.
>>537819063Air conditioning literally means conditioning the air. I would have to agree that alter the humidity of the air would be a form of conditioning. You are literally altering the conditions of the air.
>>537818754Why do I need AC or a dehumidifier?
>>537819009>Luckily for you, an AC prevents mold better than a dehumidifier. See the first reply.thats the exact opposite of how relative humidity works.
>>537819866bro chill, most posts are made by bots
>>537820611I'm not arguing they don't work. I'm arguing they're not air conditioners because they aren't.>>537820644We have two different terms for a reason. We invented refrigeration, we get to define it. An air conditioner is technically a refrigerator, is it not? It uses a compressor, condenser, and vaporizer to cool a space. But you wouldn't call an air conditioner a refrigerator because a refrigerator is different.
>>537818754omg I actually rage baited someone.>>537816699
>>537820709yeah bots and larping monkeys.
>>537820787>>537818754This you?
>>537820665To make your house more comfy when it’s 100 degrees outside. How is this concept so mind boggling lmao. It’s 70 degrees in my house year fucking round mate.
>>537820787>>537820813>Americans were rightThank you. I accept your concession. I can't wait for next year when you have a real AC.
>>537820549I rent an apartment and it's the only option I have, unfortunately. The model I have (pic related) isn't too noisy running in its quiet mode though.
>>537818754Not reading that Sumer go burrr
>HAHA EUROPOORS DON'T HAVE AC>*buys AC*>NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP THAT DOESN'T COUNTseethe
>>537820709>brown hand>broobvious samefag
>>537820938It's not AC. Sorry you got scammed with an inferior product.
>>537820852When I need it for more than 2 months/year it would justify the costs.
>>537820938you made that shit up Europeans cant even afford a 200$ unit let alone the electricity for it
Always crazy to me how cars from the 70s have AC in the US, you look for anything before 95 and it's a miracle if it has an AC.
>>537820768if the intended function is to condition the air, and they achieve this state goal, then they are air conditioners.I get it, you are trying to be elitist and patriotic about how superior americans are with their "real air conditioning" and thats cool, its gay as fuck, but whatever. The bigger point here is that you are just making yourself look retarded. They are less efficient.If i put the unit outside then ran the cold air hose into the house, it would be functionally the same as your "real air conditioner", but for obvious reasons, we accept the loss of efficiency by having the unit indoors.thats all there is to it. stop being stupid.
>>537819743dual hose is the best option for portable, you can make it even better by insulating the exhaust hose and potentially putting a kink on the intake outside so it is 100% not sucking in any of the warm exhaust air you are pushing out. they place the intake and outlet right next to eachother which is not ideal unless you angle one of them away.
>>537821055when you can afford real food, then you get to laugh.
>>537820768Pretty sure the first commercial refrigeration was created by an Aussie.We were using it to ship chilled meat to the UK shortly after you guys finished your civil war.
>>537821015>brown handpull out the obamaphone and show your paw or stfu, monkey.
>>537821082>if the intended function is to condition the airIt doesn't/isn't. It removes humidity.
>>537818754You are a dumb nigger. You are the blackest gorilla nigger I have ever seen.
>>537821082>if the intended function is to condition the air, and they achieve this state goal, then they are air conditionersDo we as English speakers call a refrigerator or a freezer an air conditioner? No. Do we call an electric space heater, or a boiler and radiator, or a fireplace an air conditioner? No. They all condition the air, but they are not air conditioners.
>>537821082you dont have to accept the loss of efficiency with a properly insulated and sealed two hose unit. ive seen people make window air conditioners into portable units with some plywood, insulation, spray foam, and hoses
the reduction in air pressure in my relatively airtight house draws up the cold air from the basement (along with a fan placed strategically). the a/c unit is also set to shoot it's cold air upwards into the house's hot ceiling, helping circulate moving, cool air around in general.if it's hot for 2 weeks solid eventually yeah it's just doing nothing at all or making things worse.but that's what machines do. they do what they do and it's up to the user to make that functionality useful for them. we're reverting to "technology is magic or useless" mindsets these days
>>537820768>We invented refrigerationBut you didn't.
>>537821175 it hardly removes any humidity at all.
>>537821235or just dont be poor and pay to install some mini splits. you can get a set for like 4 rooms for $5000 from costco, are you telling me you are too poor to do this
>>537821223You do realise that in Australia we use the AC units to cool AND heat our homes right? And we call them reverse cycle air conditioners. Fuck this is going to hurt your head isn't it.
>>537821223thats true, but their main purpose is what they are named after. and to be honest, air conditoners should be called space coolers. because they dont conditon the air, they cool it down. thats all they do
>>537821296yesi lost my job a year ago and my wife lost hers 2 weeks ago. life is shit garbage.
>>537821125Or at the very least, if you have a horizontal sliding window, make sure the exhaust hose is above the intake hose so the warm exhaust travels up and away from the intake when it exits.
>>537821357oh, my bad dude. hope you find something
>>537821280Yeah but that is the design and primary method of 'cooling'.
>>537821232but we do accept the loss of efficiency because its cheaper and easier to install, aka, more accessible.im aware of the disadvantages. but they work and thats all that im care about when im trying to sleep
>>537821384i hope what i find is swift and painless
>>537821392thats actually incorrect. they have refigeration units inside. you are thinking of the knockoff swamp cooler type that needs filled with water and getting it totally backwards.The primary method of cooling is refrigeration. they dont dehumidify, but a small amount of humidity is lost to condensation, which then just evaporates into the room anyway.
>>537821350We have them here, and we call them heat pumps. You're not special retard. They are not air conditioners either, even though a heat pump in reverse functions as an air conditioner.
>>537821562You have no idea how refrigeration works do you.
>>537821582Why are you so obsessed with this?I got my air conditioner, and you're still not happy.If it makes you feel any better, my car is probably worse than yours.
>>537821582Hahaha you have no clue. Go talk to a refrigeration mechanic and try explain to him that your refrigeration air conditioners IS NOT a heat pump.Heat pump is the airconditioning unit.
>>537821623i do, but i would love to hear how you think it works.
>>537821562>they have refigeration units inside.Yes, it might shock you how refrigeration works.
Just to remind /pol/ two things: the USA elected one from their former slave race to be their leader. This is quite obviously the biggest humiliation a nation can endure and this is likely to be why so many burgers are roleplaying as members of the opposite sex these days. The second? 93% of American men adhere to the Jewish cultural practice of circumcision. Yes, very strange isn't it? Their "moms" squeezed them out of their pussyole' and then sent them off to have their penises mutilated for no reason whatsoever. In summery, the US is a nation of men with penis trauma. And this is before we get to their obsession with talking about negroid penis.
>>537821738Just watch the technology connections video.
>>537821759i dont know what your point is
>>537821782no.
>>537821840ok
I'm in one of the most humid places in Ireland. I have no air conditioner or dehumidifier in a house that is made to keep heat in. Especially my bedroom which is upstairs, which I am currently posting from. Even at 3AM, it is like an oven. I'm getting used to it now. But it will be worse mid-day. There's no escape. No relentThe reason I am getting up at 2AM is to be awake at night and avoid the scorching sun. I can't fucking do anything in this anyways. But when I am asleep mid-day, I will be in my room. This might be my last day on Earth. I will be steamed in my sleep
>>537821738Compressor forcing a liquid/gas through a coil that contains an expansion valve. As the liquid expands into gas it must absorb a lot of heat in a short amount of time. This heat is drawn from the surrounding environment. This is the essence of refrigeration.The evaporation is occurring inside the coil. Liquid to gas is evaporation. E Vapour ation
>>537822032>checks Belfast weather >65 right now, high of 75 during the dayWe live in such different worlds, I’m not even sure if you’re serious. It is 80 degrees at 9pm and will be 90 during the day. Maximum humidity, dew on the grass every single morning. And we consider this very much a mild summer. Even when I go outside right now it seems nice and pleasant. I’m not hot. We run around in this weather and we’re not that hot. I guess the fact that we always have a place to go that is so chilly you need a blanket makes a huge difference in the entire way we perceive temperature
>>537819976temperature is a subjective experience, if it feels cooler, it's cooler
>>537818754My AC mogs your fake as shit one
>>537819106on god i was thinking about this image yesterday, "how am i ever going to find it again"thanks anon somehow you tied right in that
>>537822396When I walk outside, it's nice and cool. But when I go back into my room, it's like stepping into hell. Houses here are build to retain warmth. And when the hot weather comes, it will be worseApparently tough, it's not going to be as bad today>belfastIm not in belfast. Western Ireland Is worse for humidity. Pic rel
>>537822610When I went outside I stood next to my unit to record the noise but the crickets were louder.the idea of opening a window when we still have nature and wildlife in our backyards kekhttps://voca.ro/1jwmnZ5nDeCg
>>537818754Swamp coolers (evaporative coolers) work.>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PxzQwVOyoYou can make your own:>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=make+your+own+swamp+cooler&ia=videos&iax=videos
>>537822861They only work in very dry or desert climates, contrary to what their name might have you believe.
>>537822861Only in low humidity environments.
>>537822396>>537822755Yesterday for me was 86 F with 89 humidity. So it's basically a mild summer's day from were you are. But the thing is, we went from dull cloudy and mild typical Irish weather to this in the space of a day or two. We don't get a chance to acclimatise. Irish and british weather is erratic, and of course you don't get AC, there is no escape
>>537818754That's a portable split AC.
>>537818754I have one of these, because my windows open sideways and won't support a regular window until. I really need to look into the mini splits that are precharged and don't HVAC or electrical. The hose to the window does carry, and radiate, an awful lot of heat on its own, and you're right about creating negative pressure for inflow elsewhere. Heaven forbid the hose gets knocked loose and it's pouring all that hot air into the house. That said, it does cool, and I keep it isolated in the bedroom while the rest of the house is miserable. It's just probably the least efficient option for cooling.
>>537822213exactly. and that is precisely what is happening inside my air conditioner.Not exactly sure how you came to the conclusion that I didnt understand how it works. seems more like you misunderstand how these portable air conditioners work.
>>537818754>Me nan died in the Hottymy cheap fan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFvTJabWIw&list=PL4mNtBlfTb9WWYOzXt7O3yZWDi9NQ8qVS&index=2
>>537822213wait, i understand the confusion. when i said:> but a small amount of humidity is lost to condensation, which then just evaporates into the room anywayi was talking about the condensation that forms on the cold side. aka, the humidity from the actual air in the room condensing on the surface of the evaporator coil and dripping off.it falls down into a little catch pan but then just evaporates away anyway. you never really need to empty it. iive never had water collect there. its always been mostly dry
>>537818878this
>>537819106>buildersYour ACs are made in Japan or China.
>>537824415That’s a result of free trade. It’s also why they are shit now and only last 5-10 years. American made ones from the 1970s are still running.Regardless the A/C is much more than just the unit. Central ductwork, wiring, correct installation of all the components throughout the house, attic and outside has to be done by the local builder
>>537818754First you must fond Europe on a map. That would be pretty hard for an Amerinigger.
>>537818754I am a rentcuck and I am not allowed to install a proper AC without my landlords approval
>>537826052Europe is basically the midwest and you don’t know where Ohio is or its capital. Ohio is bigger and more important than your country. When are Europeans going to learn our geography?
>>537821765We will reverse this horrible circumcision trend. Cutfags will defend the practice to the death and I might have done the same if my parents hadn’t made the right choice when I was born. If anti-circumcision discourse becomes mainstream we’re unfortunately looking at many decades of work to even begin to undo the damage it’s caused.
>>537819009>>537819063>>537818754There are 2 different products. There's a Dehumidifer .and there's a Portable Air Conditioner. https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Air-Conditioners-Portable-Air-Conditioners/N-5yc1vZc4m4/Ntk-elasticplus/Ntt-air+conditioner?Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&NCNI-5&visNavSearch=air%20conditioner-_-2-_-565852 https://www.homedepot.com/s/dehumidifier?NCNI-5&searchAnalytics=dehumidifier-_-type%20ahead-_-1|1|1-_-typeahead-v2-search-api-_-dehumidifer
>>537818754works in my house. window units are a massive fucking pain in the ass because I'd have to remove them every fall and reinstall them in the late spring, and I would need several of them.
>>537818754you can have one that pulls in outside air but that causes humdity, moldmine blows only out but it doesnt' need to be drained the compressor vaporizes the humidity and sends it out the vent
>>537819009Condensation builds on the blades of the fan while cool air is blowing, so if you don't run internal cleaning on the A/C, mold will grow inside.Also, A/Cs stop dehumidifying once the target temperature is reached>t. using both AC and dehumidifer right now
The most advanced AC systems are, not surprisingly, in the Middle East. A high percentage of Dubai is connected to district cooling: a station cools water and dumps excess heat into the sea. Cold water is piped through the pipes into the buildings, where it's used to cool incoming air.Not only is it much cheaper and quieter, but it does the opposite to the urban heat effect that europoors are afraid of. The ac heating effect is real, but small - 2-3F locally with high AC density.Because district cooling moves heat from the sun inland into the sea, such AC actually creates an urban cooling effect (also small).
