Does anyone else find it strange that the "DSA" bogeyman came out of nowhere and like overnight all right wing and left wing grifters complain about the DSA now? You see that acronym spammed everywhere now last week it was nothing. It's like when WB was sold out of no where everyone kept complaining about "The Ellisons" like they were a major bogeyman now
It's this midterm cycle's astroturfed boogieman that will be forgotten about as soon as the election is over, like the ground zero mosque or the migrant caravan
>>538056670Hold on, Democratic Socialist America, I might get behind it, let them cook.
>>538056670>>538056916
>>538056670It's just astro turfed bullshit. Republican propaganda works on repetitive use of buzzwords like "DEI" or "Deepstate" etc. What Republicans don't realise is that boomer scare words about Socialism don't work on zoomers and millennials.
>>538056670I think it's strange you pretend like you never heard of them before
>>538056670DSA or Dick Suckers Anonymousis just ANTIFA rebranded. Still gay leftist s o y boy fags and nosering hags.
>>538056916>I might get behind it,>>538056916>get behind itThat's exactly what they like.
>>538056951>Abolish ICESure, once 100 million have been deported.
>>538056670DSA IS JUST SAME OLD BERNOIDS WITH A NEW SMILEY FACE
>>538057103Not OP but 2 days ago I had to google what "DSA" meant because I saw threads both here and on X about it and I've literally never heard of DSA before. The only time I've heard of "democratic socialists" was back in the 2024 election where dems were trying to get away from the "socialist" term by applying "democratic" to it.
>>538056670>Capitalism only benefits the minority of wealthy people now>surprised when the people who get no relief want a different systemthis totally hasn't happened before. nope. who could have seen this coming?
>>538056670Pelosicrats are worried they're going to lose influence to an up-and-comer the way Republicans are flipping out over Fishbach over in Florida.
>>538057018Democrats are doing it too kike they bitch about the "DSA" just as much which is odd
>>538056852THE HAITIANS WHO ATE ALL THE CATS AND DOGS IN OHIO ARE LITERALLY ALL GETTING DEPORTED NOWPROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPTPETA LEFTOIDS NEED TO APOLOGIZE
>>538056670>I didn't know about the DSA therefore it's newsolipsism
>>538056852>the migrant caravanthe ones that Trump and Fox News told their allies in shithole countries to make happen.
>>538057519Not all of us are far left kikes who hang out in antifa discord servers all day
>>538056670DSA is about to get the Trump treatment by the media. The establishment doesnt like people not in the club causing rifts.
>>538057018DSA is who is calling themselves Socialists. It's right there in their name.
>>538056670If they won a few local elections then of course people are going to start talking about them. Your post is what is strange.
>>538056670DSA is running another antisemite for congress in Colorado (CO-1), election is TOMORROW!>>538056670There's a shock from mainstream dems after some primary wins proved Mamdani wasn't a fluke. Also the org itself is trying to capitalize with a media push, getting their leadership to do interviews.
>>538057103Terminally online hereNever heard this term thrown around until last week, OP is right, you must be a kike
DSA isn't new you retards
>>538056670Didn't they release a manifesto where they say that this time there will be infinity unchecked unassimilable immigration, that was what communism was lacking; hence this time it will work?
>>538056670We just had primary elections and they won bigly
>>538058164>DSA is running another antisemite for congressI'm somewhat of a Democratic Socialist myself.
>>538058089It's how every single grifter started talking about it on BOTH sides not just one. You are so weird for not thinking that is suspect like I think you genuinely have a mental disorder. Are you ok anon?
Probably because more Americans are becoming class conscious (and Jew conscious) so oligarchs in control are freaking out. Both parties serve the status quo
>>538058164I forgot her name. Vote for MELAT KIROS, running tomorrow in the democratic primary in CO-1, the Denver area.
>>538056670The uniparty is being threatened and this is a coordinated effort to push DSA to the forefront of political discourse so it can be handled.
>>538057018Oh please retard. Zoomers and millenials with any semblance of IQ understand where socialism leads. Either youre a little retard or you actually think its a popular mentality amongst people. Being br*tish would make sense why you think so though
>>538057130Bottom left the only qt.
if i lived in a state where i could change my affiliation on the spot, i'd go vote for one of those socialist tards in the primaries to make it easier for the GOP to win
>>538056670You're watching a movie. enjoy
>>5380566701. psyop to justify more crack downs (more bad laws, more bad policing, etc)2. psyop to get upset democrats to join someone that appears to be doing something, splitting the dem vote so reps "win" in the next cycle
>>538056670This must be the first election cycle you've paid attention to. They've been popping up in national headlines since 2015 or so.
>>538056670The DSA has been a problem for years. It's only talked about a lot now because Fox news being reactionary to Hasan Piker being a blabber mouth
https://x.com/IfindRetards/status/2011752524588748922https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWe3rk7LzQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHRxu3XrsHg>DSA Political Platform>Abolition of White Supremacy>Gender and Sexuality Justice>Defund the police>Freedom for all incarcerated people>Demilitarize the police and end colonial policing of our cities and neighborhoods>Pass reparations legislation>End environmental racism>Guarantee queer-friendly and gender affirming healthcarehttps://archive.today/eB44m
>>538056670Yes. It popped up like “wet bulb” temps or Joomteempf.Tired of this gay ass simulation world.
>>538056916Listen, Wayne.You’re Jewish.You understand how above and beyond you’re going need to go to get me onboard.I’m not totally against you, but you are swimming upstream, you understand?
I'm a democratic socialist and I think you should have affordable healthcare and a livable minimum wage
>>538060752Based fellow Democratic Socialist Comrade. I too am a proud Democratic Socialist and think you deserve affordable housing and groceries .
>>538056670It wasn't out of nowhere, its because Zohran is actually doing shit. Which is propelling AOC, causing Migatards and Dems to cope.
>>538056670DSA has been around for a while. But a lot of anons would never have heard of them outside of early 2020's college campuses in pretty deep Blue cities.The reason they are more prominent now is that their members have only recently graduated by now.But yeah, they were allways the ones behind the American Antifa contigents and hipster-"workers" protests. Just under a different name.
All of Mamdani's picks won and DSA is running guys all over for the midterms, those together made DSA manor news
>>538056670Thread is full of brown zoomers and homosexuals redditors, we're putting you in camps
>>538058164>>538058533wait until you retards learn they only think firebombing jews is ok because they think jews are white.
>>538056670The fuck is DSA?
the left and right want everyone to fight over identity politics to deflect from the real problem: RICH FUCKS ROBBING EVERYONE BLIND
>>538056670right and leftist jews are pushing the DSA so you'll vote for the biggest zionist shill (JD Vance) just to make it end
>>538056670>>538047383>>538030590DSA tranny shills out in full force
But it didn't, though. I belonged to it in college in the 90s. It's become more visible in this country as inequality has worsened.
>>538056670>came out of nowhereYou haven't been paying a smidge of attention for 75 years, have you?
>>538061572nobody cares, boomer
>>538061572so basically, rightoidism is the gateway to socialism
>>538056670if only i could remember what they were distracting us from ...
>>538061683It's amazing how many leftist kikes in this thread are mad that people don't know about their antifa knockoff
>MFW we're getting the rise of Bolshevik part of the Weirmar Republic
>>538060635They also want to nationalize all business but also somehow pay people more and reduce prices. They are retards.
>>538061021Their 2019 convention video is hilarious though.
it's funny how brown and indian /pol/estinians are nowadays if they don't remember the billion threads about DSA convention >>538060635
Discord trannies and gayper defectives are going to push DSA hard at /pol/ young people getting screwed by the system (and their fellow young defectives)ZOG will use as a distraction from Israel and immigration, and ironically, the economyDem civil war should be fun, thoughHouse niggers have it really goodAnd, neolibs/jews aren't going to want niggers gettingf pulled off the plantation
>>538056670I think the jews are kvetching about them just like how they were kvetching about Christianity and Donald Trump, which was just reverse psychology to get the goyim to rally behind false opposition that ultimately supports Zionism.
>>538056670>all right wing and left wing griftersAlmost like they're all jewish.
>>538063387Wasn't this the entire problem/pol/ had with regular democrats?>allow corportations to source international labor without limits and turn a nation into a corporate post-national economic zonehttps://platform.dsausa.org/foreign-policy/
>>538056670yes Jews are doing that thing whenever there’s a particular angle of attack>muh citizen vigilante>muh “fuck Islam” trending>muh “rape report”it’s all just Jews trying to shove attention off of themselves as the primary enablers of all the migration so they can keep doing it they’re hoping if they INCREASE Muslim immigration further while all of this is going on, people will go insane and decide that they’re a wash as a race so we flatten more of the Middle East for them while spending another 8T to do so doing nothing to address the actual cause of the Muslim migration issue, which is pic related and orgs like them
>>538056670>out of nowhereHow do you function. It came out of the fact that they used to lose literally every single election for years and years, and then last week they "AAAALLL OF A SUDDEN" won a shit ton of elections and therefore you are now hearing about it.
>>538063669>It came out of the fact that they used to lose literally every single election for years and years, and then last week they "AAAALLL OF A SUDDEN" won a shit ton of elections and therefore you are now hearing about it.So, "out of nowhere", as they say
>>538062478SOME DUMSHIT COMMIES NEED TO DO A REICHSTAG FIRE THEN COMES THE THOUSAND YEAR CHEETO REICHCMON COMMIES TAKE YER SWING
>>538058390Yes infinity immigration and voting rights for noncitizens is their platform.https://platform.dsausa.org/foreign-policy/>Allow workers to freely migrate between countries to seek employment without restrictive immigration controls. Demilitarize the border, end all immigrant detention and deportations, immediate amnesty for all immigrants regardless of current immigration status, and provide access to jobs, labor rights, and social services to all immigrants.https://platform.dsausa.org/democracy/>Extend full voting rights to people with criminal convictions and noncitizens and establish statehood for Washington D.C
>>538056670Communists who go far out of their way to insist they're not Communists. They are, in fact, Communists.
>>538064177just like how republicans are all nazis
>>538064765I wish they were
DSA = Democrat version of the Tea Party. Only opposite. Tea Party was a reaction to Obama, but the DSA is less a reaction to Trump, as it is a reaction to the Democrat Party's reaction to Trump. In other words, the mainstream Democrat party has no real platform anymore. They've become the "anti Trump" party. They are incoherent and rudderless, and often when they do take a real stand on something it's a deeply divisive or even outright unpopular stance that further makes them look out of touch.DSA is an attempt to realign the Democrats around POLICY rather than political theater ("orange man bad!"). Yes, the DSA is opposed to Trump, but only incidentally. They are focused on socialist solutions to problems. That's a very risky label to give yourself in this country, but considering how toxic the Democrat label is right now, the socialist arm of the party probably realized they will never have better opportunity to promote their policies and maybe even steer the mainstream party toward their camp.
DSA literally took over Reddit and some online game communities. Mind you, this has zero relationship towards Trump unless they themselves bring him up.DSA are like your typical “radical leftist” tranny that keeps within the two-party paradigm.
>>538064953Yes, they seem to be avoiding contracting the Democrat Party elite's TDS. They obviously don't like or support Trump but they're not making their movement about him, which is a very wise thing to do. I still think they're absolutely not going to get anywhere, though, because of their terrible immigration platform.
>>538056670All media is propaganda and we are all disturbingly susceptible to losing the game at any time. The jew lives to sow division. Let us allow the jew to reap what was promised to him 80ish years ago??
>>538056670 If you weren't blind you'd know it didn't come out of nowhere. It's literally the Hasan Piker type- y'know, the retards there's been six million threads about a day for years and years now?
>>538056670They are afraid.
>>538056916They're not natsoc, you mouth-breathing retard. They're commie-larper champagne socialists.
>>538065159To this day I still don't understand what Hasan Kiker is even for especially since Hasan applies he who submits to Islam which implies deus vult which should imply white nationalists unite but instead we get this
>>538056670>They are antisemitic Whelp, DSA gets my vote.
>>538063387Interesting theory do you have any evidence to support it?
>>538059853>Bottom left the only qt.It's a tranny. There are no cute OEM leftist women anymore.
>>538059168Rightwing socialism is good because it benefits meLeftwing socialism is just niggers and white guys who sold out/jews pretending to be white
>>538065192They are very natsoc. They are Democrats and Democrats give loads of money and weapons to nazis all over the world.
is DSA based on nordic model or some other variant?
>>538056670>came out of nowhereBernie has been a "democratic socialist" for like 40 years.
>>538065479Pretty much.
Nothing like leeches that have never worked a day in their lives worrying about workers.
>>538056670>came out of nowhereaka I just heard about this on Asmongold watching Fox News
>>538056670is this just the SDS under a different brand?
>>538056670when i hear dsa i think of deepseek sparse attention. i think i read too much.https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.02556
>>538065044The thing is though, they’re a walking stereotype like someone from Berkeley and, like you said, are heavily pro mass immigration, which is ironically rather capitalist. Regardless of what the leaders of this group promote or advocate, the average DSA supporter is just an autistic tranny trying to feel punk in the year 2026. A last grasp at reviving the 2010s with a more digital gamer approach. The average member is also in their 30s or older. Very few zoomers.Like I said, before, they’ve basically took over Reddit. Go look up your town and I’m sure it had a Reddit page with mostly aged older cusp millennials circlejerking about about politics if they’re not talking about Dungeons and Dragons. Any political conversation in a game chat is guaranteed to be a transgender advocate, again, being DSA members. None will be hippies, tankies, actual commies, generic democrats, classical liberals, anarchists, and so forth.
>>538065565would be interesting to see the US embrace something like that, at least before going into full blown late stage capitalism hellscape
>>538065618ITS SRS PURE R*DDIT
>>538065266Not really. The average DSA supporter, meaning actually wearing their gay little tee shirt, is usually a Jewish high school art teacher who became a dyke after a messy divorce. The others are “Chicano” types who just want to flood the US with spics. They’re still very much so Jewish, even if they spout a few anti-Israel things.
>>538065686Their advocacy for mass immigration is the biggest albatross around their neck. A majority of Americans do not support open borders, and Trump's crackdown on immigration is possibly the only thing people still give him positive marks for. Like you said, it's also runs exactly counter to their supposed support for working class people. Mass immigration depresses wages and increases competition for housing, puts further strain on public services. There's no real socialist anywhere that supports it.
>>538056670DSA is the future of the white race! Dr
>>538065615I heard it from Democrats actually kike
>>538057313Bernie only won a single ejection. DSA has won six so far and counting.
>>538065774There's also quite a lot of Jews that are openly critical of Zionism. These are the dyed in the wool Marxist Jews. They aren't against Israel per se, but they are critical of the way it's being run and believe it should be more of a refuge for Jews fleeing persecution (read: prosecution for child molestation)
>>538057366DSA killed Kirk. They’re based AF
>>538065479The nordic model was developed in countries that were mostly racially homogeneous and would never work in the US.
>>538065686>>538065774Correcting myself about the “average” member/supporter.The more analog activist is an aged millennial, usually a woman who wears the pants in the relationship. They’re the ones who seem borderline Gen X. These folks are like a quirk chungus. The man has a beard, the woman looks like a failed soccer mom with a Pokemon keychain. There are the people who touch grass and go sidewalk picket lines. The man is usually a predator trying to get fat alt girls into his swinger relationship.The online branches, not Reddit, are the trannies who give hot takes over video game chats, Discord, and try to appeal to zoomers and Gen Alpha. Usually they use femboy, furry? and tranny porn and other shit as a lure of sorts.
>>538057448Oh shit OP. You think there might be some specific group of people funding both parties?
>>538066268Yup but retards like the one I replied to just go "muh republicans"
>>538056670I support this to split the democrat vote and return to old school traditional American values. Revoking gay marriage is on the table again because of this. We should also continue to let Israel hate appear to be a left-wing stance to turn jews and leftists against each other. Furthermore, it is pretty obvious you GATE buddies are still monitoring me on /pol/ and following my instructions. I would like to say let us ignore Israel and simply turn our stance to END ALL FOREIGN AID. We won't even specifically talk about Israel. We will still endorse the same policy of defunding them, but not "anti-semitically" like the left. Of course, this is a preliminary phase toward die zweite Kristallnacht. Do not mistake my meaning. This is the logical next step, fourth reich remnants reading my posts and implementing them in real time. Thank you guys by the way. Jesus bless you.
>>538066063NORWAY HAS A TINY POPULATION OF 5 MILLION PEOPLE AND THEY RUN OFF OIL MONEY
>>538056670The DSA wouldn't have succeeded in the primaries without Mamdani, and they shouldn't get too cocky
>>538058538Of course both sides are going to talk about. Are you retarded? Why the fuck wouldnt they?
>>538063474This. It's the latest Jewish scapegoat. >talk about our new mutual enemy, the DSA!>don't talk about Israel>don't talk about Jews in America>just talk about the DSA, those woke leftists!And it works on the goyim every time.
>>538066594That's what the US should do. Instead traitors with AIPAC guys sell permits for nothing to jews who keep the profits from our fucking oil.
>>538058538Did you not think the kike led uniparty exists?
>>538066668Because you stupid kike it's rare for dems to self police
>>538066758what mental disorder do you have kike?
>>538056670The mainstream Dems need a way to demonize the shitskins who abandoned worship of Israel and instead worship themselves. This....is not it.
>>538066462if the leftist party is to is to be split by the far left, that will take away from the Democrat vote thus giving the Republican party victory, then I'd like to see an "alt-right" party emerge simultaneously and hope that there are enough normie right wing people that are sick of the Republicans bullshit to make /ourparty/ the victor
>>538056670Democratic Socialism is a euphemism for communism, which is totalitarian state capitalism administered by jews to the detriment of the native population. Everyone with political literacy has hated you for 100 years.
>>538066837what the DSA actually is is liberalism from the 1960s where they care about the working class and unions and taxing the rich.
>>538066784>>538066821Nothing you say makes sense. The fact you think dems and repubs being in lockstep is weird suggests youre a retard who doesn't know anything about politics.
>>538058164based>>538061186your kids are filipino
>>538056670Yeah it does seem suddenly astroturfed everywhere, here included. That's how you know it's a PSYOP.
>>538066947please answer the question kike
>>538056670What is their platform?
>>538067044Race communism.
>>538056670>What is DSADanger Service Agency, obviously.
>>538067044>What is their platform?Forced transButt sexxoTaxes for lubeMore butt sexxo and feces eatingFaggotry in general.
>>538060251President jew slave is running cover for the jews who own him because communism is a jewish political ideology.
People are tired of limpdick moderate dems. To fight fascists, you need the opposite, so bring in the socialists. Same thing happened in Weimar germany.
>>538066750BUY EXXON GET YOUR PROFITS TREX LOOK LIKE AIPAC TO YOUHES AMERICAN YOUR AMERICAN LRN2CAPITALISMMOST AMERICANS ARE PASSIVELY INVESTED IN AMERICAN COMPANIES ANYWAY LIKE IN 401KS PENSION FUNDSBLUMF IS EVEN GIVING OUT FREE STONK ACCOUNTS TO THE COMMIE RETARDS WHO CANT FIGURE OUT CAPITALISM ON THEIR OWN
>>538067112>communism is a jewish political ideology.All forms of Socialism = Jewish
Kill all commies, Death to shitskins, Hang all muslims
>>538067124>To fight fascists, you need the oppositeGo to bed boomer fag.
>>538067030Id call you a kike back, but your lack of political knowledge suggests youre just a brown ignoramus instead.
>>538066462DSA can't generally split the vote since they run candidates as Dems
>>538056670They dig it up every few years like BLM.
>>538063387>>538063564Their platform is literally the goal of jews and the reason everyone hates jews. They want to denationalize our country.
>>538056670(((Boshelviks))) but browner and gayer
For a more parliamentary style comparison of what is going on in the US it can be helpful to look at the US House caucuses as if they were their own parties. DSA Would slot next to the CPC as a leftwing "party" as it would be the corresponding political extreme as the republican RSC although less extreme than the republican "Freedom Caucus." However the DSA does not have its own caucus as the only house rep which would align with it, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is caucusing with the CPC. Bernie Sanders as a senator would not show up on this list but notionally he would align well with the DSA and has endorsed DSA candidates before.Most of the recent news about the DSA has been about Mamdani and the New York DSA specifically which has done a much better job of organizing locally than mainstream democrats. While it does reflect something of a trend, this situation is pretty unique to New York and is not quite a DSA wave yet.
>>538067148Calm down there Rand
>>538067174I am going to guess you have some form of psychosis kike
>>538056670PLEASE DO NOT USE GENDERED LANGUAGE WHEN ADDRESSING MEMBERS THANK YOU
>>538065428The "nazis" with a jew President who are backed by the worst international jew bankers who denationalize and destroy every country who tolerates them?
>>538067271And I'll continue to assume you're a retarded shitskin who lacks even the most basic understanding of American politics.
>>538066924Unfortunately, even with these values, they cost it with an anti-white and anti-middle class veneer. Their bottom line would be to redistribute wealth, yes, but to the shittiest people imaginable, IE the average prole in Portland or Berkeley who hate me, you, and many others who aren’t a problem.
Just the newest agenda attempt like blm,antifa,and the rest of the past...the end is near for them and this is the final nail in their coffin...they fucked up good this time...
>>538067377was I right kike?
>>538067483Nope. But I know that I am right.
>>538056670It's the Tea party, No Labels, Social party of America, and now Democratic socialists or something.
>>538067148>All forms of Socialism = JewishnopeGottfried Feder - The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation.pdfhttps://buzzheavier.com/ktq37613r07a
>>538067558Then what mental disorder do you have kike?
>>538056670This is Bernie's group...you know, from 2015? Apparently it was founded in '82 so it's even older than him being involved, but that was the first I ever heard of it.Takes forty years to be an overnight success.
>>538066924BERNY SAYS IMMIGRATION ARE SCABS WHO LOWER WAGES AND THAT CIRCUMVENTS HIS UNION MAFIAHE SHOULD BE THE NEW DHS SECRETARY
>>538067148Libertarianism is a disproven exploitative anti-White jewish mind virus taught to the goyim though.
>>538067044The worst of the DSA platform has already been posted itt directly from their website. They not only want to give all illegals amnesty but also give all non-citizens the ability to vote.That's some real existential stuff and would need to be confronted with full force if they ever make significant gains outside of limited pockets like New York.
>>538056670They did not come out of nowhere, they have been slowly gaining steam as a slightly less boring/more radical left wing party/group for a while now. That they have become large enough to field candidates within an existing party is pretty interesting. They are more or less the perfect party for limp-dicked redditors with 4 year degrees. In that, they have a pretty big target demo in the US.Not sure why they are being shilled here as they are very much in favor of open-borders.
>>538066924They are anti-nationalist communist jews.
>>538061230DSA is exclusively identity politics lmaoooohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=UPLQNUVmq3oLeftists scurry when you shine a light on them, like all rats.
>>538056670They are growing in urban liberal areas across the country.
>>538067776The suicidal red israel first zio-cucks are the ones who wrecked our demography and imported the Democrat's unwanted alien nigger voting base with Sir Ronald Reagan's Amnesty and the 1990's Immigration Acts. The Democrats wouldn't even exist as a party if the Republicans just implemented an immigration moratorium, which is what White Americans have been demanding forever. The Democrat party exists because the Republicans flood our country with non-White aliens on behalf of the jews who own them. Both parties exist as a anti-White jewish single system. The Republicans are the perpetual loser jew slaves who keep their White voters calm while they stab us in the back as frequently as possible. Republicans surrender all of our major cities to Democrat jews and their alien nigger hoards.
>>538056951>"the left doesn't support open borders">abolish ICEImagine that.
>>538068336>he has just learned of the existence of the uniparty>still bothers keeping their names straightbabylon makes war on babylonbabylon falls, babylon rises
i like all the retarded niggers saying DSA is based because they hate israel, despite the DSA openly advocating for jewish marxist policies god i wish this site wasn't full of retarded reddit niggers
>>538056670its forced socialism derangement syndrome to keep miggers scared (it's working)
>>538068528>iceborder patrol manages the border retard. you're shadowboxxing with made up arguments
>>538065371All socialism is shit mass murder.
DSA has been around for a long time, they're being scapegoated by jews, centrist dems and israel fanatics for the rise in anti-jewish sentiment and socialist push in the Dem party which has largely been independent of the DSA. Bernie and AOC have driven membership towards them but its a reflection of a broader left wing shift in youth due to discontent with capitalism and neoliberalism, the status quo the Democrat and Republican party leaderships wish to preserve past other disagreements
>>538068688There is still distinction between the parties. The red jews are less bad for sure but still terrible. It is the jewishness of both parties, which is why they are not liked. The republicans want to bankrupt our country for Israel. The Democrats want to ruin our country domestically. I don't want Benzion Mileikowsky or György Schwartz. In fact a lot of the stuff the DSA claims to want, we could and should do, like raising wages, making tuition free, and making health care free or cheaper. But we can't do any of that with non-European immigration and even mass European immigration. Most of what the DSA claims they want is totally impossible with their mass immigration mass amnesty nonsense. So the party is just a jewish scam. You can have socialism but you also have to have nationalism. Without that, the system wont work.
>>538069063Communism is a jewish political ideology, which the jews from the DSA want to implement. Their platform is literally the goal of jews for the goyim who tolerate them. Every goy nation is supposed to be dissolved into a brainless biomass of aliens the jews can control, except in Israel, where the jews will have their ultranationalist nuclear armed crime state. The jews promote communism to the dumb politically illiterate aliens they have infected the US with. The republicans have lost control of every major city in the US and they don't seem to mind at all. They are a bunch of hardcore losers.
>>538056951Support everything except abolish ice
>>538056670no they've been very active for over 10 years now and you're an uninformed retard if you think otherwise
DSA is just shitlibbery with red paint. All these grifting deceivers like Mamdani or AOC have zionist handlers. Thats what all Social Democracy is. Its not real Socialism. Americans are as usual clueless about this. Both the leftists who think this is somehow some actually radical anti-establishment socialist movement for real and the right wingers who think Social Democracy is Communism. Lmao. You historylets. Social Democrats was the left wing alternativethats been shilled in Europe all this time in order to check actual Socialism. Tankies fucking HATED social democrats during the cold war. They see soc dem as bourgeois pro-zionist lapdogs of western imperialism in red paint. And thats what socdems are and have always been. Tankies were/are not wrong about socdems at least.They are trying to create a multiparty system in America now were the only alternatives will be different shades of Liberalism basically.
>>538072152neither receive aipac funding kike
>>538072152When your platform is that America should leave NATO and end all military bases overseas, and you candidates say American imperialism caused 9/11, it's tricky to paint that as imperialist
>>538061186Take your boosters and go back to crackbook, retard.
>>538056916They're nazbols, commies. Not natsoc.
>>538056670oy vey shut up and get programmed
>>538072200so what? they're still on board with the great replacement.
>>538072200If you look at the finer print they do though. Its not just about AIPAC. AOC and Bernie are handled by zionist Matt Duss. Mamdani retains Trump family friend and zionist Jessica Tisch as police commisioner in New York. This is what social democrats always do. I know. I live in a country dominated by them for over a century now.
>>538068983You cannot be this stupid.
>>538072249Or thats just what they say to get votes. Socdems are experts at that shit.
>>538072369The great replacement is a European thing. America has always taken on massive numbers of immigrants. You would be right to point that the immigrants are no longer white, but the reason is because America can no longer attract the high levels of white immigrants because it can't offer as much to a much more developed Europe
>>538072387How do you feel about Chevalier who is a Marxist-Leninist?
>>538072423>ICEbro it's literally called "U.S. Customs and Border Protection" for a reason. stop being extra retarded
>>538072446Blaming 9/11 on America is not a populist positionThe thing is the DSA is not purely social democrats. They are an eccentric mixture of social democrats, liberals, and Marxist revolutionaries (who mainly see elections as a way of building class consciousness, not as an actual path to socialism). It's really abnormal. So is their choice of entryism instead of making their own party
>>538056670>find it strangeNo, it's a midterm election year
>>538056670The DSA has been growing since they hit the stage in 2015 with the Bernie Sanders campaign. In what way is that "out of nowhere?"I actually joined and went to a few events around 2016-2017, but there was barely any presence where I live. Instead it was a bunch of socially awkward autists and trannies. There didn't seem to be any actual workplace organizing since presumably none of them had jobs, so they mostly stuck to making buttons and stickers about being gay (it was the cringe "be gay, do crimes" era). I tried going to a few of the bigger events to see if there was anything approaching normal people who wanted to make left wing politics more popular among apolitical or politically disenfranchised people, but all I found were more asocial weirdos. That said, even then it seems to depend highly on your location. The big city DSA chapters seem to be the only ones with any success.
>>538072693I think it depends on where you live but they have grown a lot since then and they are currently big into salting, signing up for non-unionized jobs in order to establish DSA-affiliated unions in them
>>538056670Your own damn fault for not paying attention to the world. The DSA-aligned candidates just won more primary races than they ever have at any single time in any of our lifetimes. That's why they're in the news.If you had any degree of knowledge in how US politics operates, then you would know that the DSA has existed for a long-ass time without ever putting up numbers like this. You probably don't even know who the Working Families Party is, or that the organization has been run by MF DOOM's cousin.
>>538072521Sounds like another grifter to me.>>538061073One of those picks is turbo zionist Brad Lander.>>538072456"The Great Replacement" is an American dictate upon Europe.
>>538056670https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act
>>538072558>border control stops the moment someone crosses the borderKeep going, you're doing great.
>>538072777So when Engels wrote about Irish immigration replacing the English, that was an American dictate?
>>538072613>Blaming 9/11 on America is not a populist positionOh but it can be if its just a dog whistle to get more votes. Which it is in this case. It is populist grifting in this case.>The thing is the DSA is not purely social democrats. They are an eccentric mixture of social democrats, liberals, and Marxist revolutionaries (who mainly see elections as a way of building class consciousness, not as an actual path to socialism). It's really abnormal. So is their choice of entryism instead of making their own partyAt its core the DSA is a front for more Democrat Social Liberalism just with red paint. Stop deflecting.
>>538072834Stop deflecting. Its enforced in Europe by the US since the 1950s. Throught NATO. Through the EU. Through trans-atlantic liberal institutions and think tanks. It has nothing to do with Engels or Marx.
>>538072831yeah because it becomes that's where the states are retard-kun. are you actually american? even a migger would know this
>>538072925>Oh but it can be if its just a dog whistle to get more votes. Which it is in this case. It is populist grifting in this case.No it isn't. You really do not understand American politics. Especially in New York where it happened. This country is extremely conservative. Even among non-white people, blue collars have been drifting to joining the Republicans for years, including Blacks and Mexicans. Everyone who is working class, even Muslims, has relatives in the military. Black people celebrate the 4th of July more than Juneteenth and moderately successful Hispanics frequently sympathized with Trump on immigration until ICR started killing people. You just do not understand the political climate here. It is nothing like Scandinavia. There is zero class consciousness and everyone looks to identify and feel represented by a millionaire of their race and sex
>>538073073The reserve industrial army has nothing to do with Marx and Engels who wrote extensively about how capitalism requires it?
>>538073125There is really no Conservatism in the United States either. There is only Liberalism in the US. Different flavors of it. You are talking out of your ass when you call America conservative and do not even really understand your own countrys political binary going back to Hamilton and Jefferson.
>>538073250By conservatism you mean the continental political ideology that has been dead since WWI?
>>538056670Left populist policies are actually very popular among both right and left voters, yet the Democrats and Republicans keep pushing policies that appease their donors. So now a party that is actually implementing those policies where they win is gaining steam and the corporate parties are throwing a fit. This is democracy manifest.
>>538073155Whats your angle then? That Marxism is somehow behind Wilsonian american liberal cosmopolitan dictates upon Europe? Or that Marxism opposes it? You see I am not even a tankie and despise them in some ways. But I still respect them a little bit more than liberals.
>>538073282Pretty much. You never had that in the US. You have only had Jeffersonian Democracy and Hamiltonian Federalism.
>>538073351Its a deception. The DSA also placate the donor class in the end.
>>538073399Marxism posits that capitalism must have the working class constantly reproduce to the extent that they stay in poverty. If they fail to reproduce that much, then immigrants must be brought in to make up for it. Capitalism, according to Marx and Engels, does not WANT full employment, it must always keep a margin of people jobless who want work, in order to keep wages low. This margin is called the reserve army of labor by Marx. In any capitalist state therefore, unless you have sufficient reproduction to produce a poor underclass, immigrants will always be brought in to achieve itIf you are interested in tankie points on this, Stalin and H.G. Welles had a debate about it, and Stalin said FDR, for all his good will, would never actually eliminate unemployment because capitalism does not allow that
>>538073282>>538073486And mind you that kind of Conservatism sucked ass anyway and just enabled what the world has now become.All Conservatism sucks ass really.
>>538057216That's sucks for maga that faga like this are more preferable to America now after you guys won by man date.
>>538073486Okay but that doesn't exist in Europe either, Franco was the last gasp of it. When I say conservative I mean the working class identifying with imperialism. We wiped put 90% of the Natives here but if you go to any Indian reservation they are all very proud of their vets and American flag, and Indians into horses and ranching frequently identify with the cowboy aesthetic and cultureAfter the decline of Protestantism, the defining ideology of the capitalists in the mode of imperialism described by Lenin has shifted to Darwinism. The idea of DNA has filled the role of blood. This phenomenon was predicted by what Mao called the "paper tiger" effect: capitalists when fighting for rule are tigers who champion very radical ideologies, but once they have power they see those ideologies as dangerous and drift closer to the beliefs of the classes they deposed, showing they were only "paper" tigers, not really radicals. John C Calhoun in America is a perfect example, he was a major Jeffersonian but once his slaveowning class became the ruling aristocracy he renounced all his old beliefs and condemned the declaration of independence for saying all men are created equal, accusing it of being the greatest of liesReally his ideology if you read his writings is similar to aristocratic conservatism. So is the "dark enlightenment" movement today, which advocates an aristocracy that runs the country as a board of shareholders
>>538073573I already know all that. Capitalists want immigration to supress wages and create all other kinds of socal strife in society. This is a no brainer.FDR saved Capitalism despite what lolbertardians will say.But I also know that Democratic Socialists are not tankies or anti-capitalist at all. They rely on those same immigrants capitalists and liberals brought in to a country as a voting bloc.
>>538073831Immigrants are going to keep coming under capitalism. Obviously there is no overthrowing of capitalism unless labor and the reserve army are allied. They are, true, in direct competition for work, and that is the nature of capitalism, to keep labor competing among themselves instead of turning on capitalistsThere is an alternative, of course, what Lenin called "opportunism": one part of labor allies with capitalists against another part of labor in return for concessions. Boomers did this, they allies with capital against future generations and young labor, and it worked well for them. But this time it hasn't worked, allying with capital against immigrant labor through Trump gave no concessions. Capitalism will not give anymore because it can't and keep functioning, since it is eating itself already.
>>538073816>John C Calhoun in America is a perfect example, he was a major Jeffersonian but once his slaveowning class became the ruling aristocracy he renounced all his old beliefsJC Calhoun
>>538073816But all this you just ran through about "imperialism" is just liberal (and christian) cosmpolitanism. This is what marxists fail to grasp. Deracination. It does not exist according to you. Because in the end you share one general idea with capitalists, liberals, conservatives, imperialists or whatever you want to call them. And thats the idea that people are just objects you can program in any way you see fit. Capitalist society is one mouse utopia. Communism is another mouse utopia. And what does this have to do with the DSA not actually being principled socialists? Because they are not and you have still not proven that they are. You have still not disproven my indications and such that they have liberal capitalist and zionist handlers.
>>538073998This is all objectively true though. No arguing that.But again you omitt that the DSA is part of this capitalist strategy themselves.
DSA is an Anti-White Party appealing to racially miscegenated zoomers and immigrants.Y'all need to understand: any time a Communist in America is talking about>seizing the means of production>redistributing the wealth>taxing billionaires>worker's rightsWhat they mean in practice by that is>seizing the property of all White people>stealing assets from White people>White Guilt taxes>giving preferential treatment to migrants over WhitesTheir whole platform is and always has been taking things from White people and giving it to Non-Whites.
>>538074098And fascists of course do not get this either about humans. Thats self evident though.That capitalists, socialists and fascists all employ brutalist architecture in their respective societies since the 20th century sort of drives my point hom further.
>>538074248>Their whole platform is and always has been taking things from White people and giving it to Non-Whites.
>>538074432So we already have communism?
>>538056916you wont live long enough to see your commie block demolished
>>538074098By imperialism I am referring specifically to the Leninist definition given in Imperialism: The Last Stage of Capitalism. It is when capitalism cannot produce anymore and can only make money through wealth transfers, and sometimes has to destroy wealth to achieve them (as in Gaza). Financial speculation is imperialist capitalism, for example, and Lenin talks about it extensively in the work, because it is just wealth transfer, not actual wealth creation>Deracination. It does not exist according to you. It does, I gave an example earlier with Indians>And thats the idea that people are just objects you can program in any way you see fit.That is a liberal belief which Mao talks about in On Contradiction. As Mao says, liberalism reduces humans to mere atoms who are products of their environment. A book published under Stalin, A Textbook of Marxist Philosophy, talks about this in depth. Both works are free and easy to read online>And what does this have to do with the DSA not actually being principled socialists?I don't think they. There ARE such groups in America, the PSL is the major one. The DSA is a coalition of extremely different groups including Maoists, Tankies, Trotskyists, social democrats, anarchists, and so on. Each chapter also has enormous autonomy. I don't agree with many or even most of the DSA members, but I also think purity spiraling has failed Marxism. We need some actual material, substantial things to show the working class. In fact a lot of them. It is wrong to expect a revolution today based purely on faith
>>538074567To quote Mao after he finally mellowed out from purity spirals>Some seem to think that, once in the communist party, people all become saints with no differences or misunderstandings, and that the Party is not subject to analysis, that is to say, it is monolithic and uniform, hence there is no need for talks. It seems as if people have to be 100 percent Marxists once they are in the party. Actually there are Marxists of all degrees, those who are 100 percent, 90, 80, 70, 60, or 50 percent Marxist, and some who are only 10 or 20 percent Marxist. Can’t two or more of us have talks together in a small room? Can’t we proceed from the desire for unity and hold talks in the spirit of helping each other? Of course I’m referring to talks within the communist ranks, and not to talks with the imperialists (though we do hold talks with them as well).
>>538072053Every attack of the jew is marketed to the goyim as a charity or a virtue. All of the unwanted alien niggers see a list like that and think all of those ideas sound good. How you get there is what matters and who implements the policy. Nothing on that list is possible with mass immigration except the last one.
>>538072423>governingreading is fundamental
>>538072420The source of communism is jews, which is why communism can't be solved because it requires explicit antisemitism, which all of our jew slave politicians are scared of. So jew slave Trump's anti-communism will be at best performative. All he would have to do to strip democrats of their power is embrace his own White voting base and halt or reverse immigration.
>>538074238The DSA is trying to capture immigrant support away from capitalists. I do not personally believe a revolution will ever happen without a unity of labor and immigrants, or at least a truce between them, otherwise one side or the other will become prey to opportunism. Capitalists today use ICE, but if labor fights them and immigrants, capitalism will recruit plenty of immigrants into private security firms to spy on labor and break strikes, immigrants will be used in the military and police. And if labor allies with capitalism, it will be back to ICE again, which is just used to keep im immigrant labor in constant terror so they don't agitate or advocate and stay insular and away from citizen labor
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>>538074567>It does, I gave an example earlier with Indians>That is a liberal belief which Mao talks about in On Contradiction. As Mao says, liberalism reduces humans to mere atoms who are products of their environment. A book published under Stalin, A Textbook of Marxist Philosophy, talks about this in depth. Both works are free and easy to read onlineBut it ceases to exist when Marxist-Leninist historically have done the same to its subjects. The USSR continued the same russification policies of the tsar (just under a new ideological framing of course) except the Soviets took it even further. The PRC is very Han-centric to the point of genocide basically. My ultimate point is that Capitalists and Communists both project but deny their similarities in this regard. Fascists are modernist monsters too but they generally do not project in this manner. They are more up front in their pathology.>I don't think they. There ARE such groups in America, the PSL is the major one. The DSA is a coalition of extremely different groups including Maoists, Tankies, Trotskyists, social democrats, anarchists, and so on. Each chapter also has enormous autonomy.>I don't agree with many or even most of the DSA members, but I also think purity spiraling has failed Marxism. We need some actual material, substantial things to show the working class. In fact a lot of them. It is wrong to expect a revolution today based purely on faithI am not purity spiralling about this because I am not a marxist. I am not a capitalist, liberal, conservative, nationlist, fascist or whatever else you may want to peg me as either. I am just a "schizo" into dismantling all the fakery and grifting of politics. And I am equal opportunity about it. I go after phonies to the right like Tucker or Fuentes just as much.
>>538074726Communism wasn't invented by Marx (who was vocally critical of Jews as an ethnic mafia and regarded capitalism as Judaification of society). The Paris Commune was not Jewish in any way, shape or form.
>>538074987>The PRC is very Han-centric to the point of genocide basically.China explicitly only enforced their one-child policy on the Han because they said it would be genocide to enforce it on other ethnicitiesFor being so clear-sighted, you seem to have consumed a lot of kool-aid
>>538074588Mao did not "mellow out". He just became increasingly cynical and downright nihilistic over time. His "purity spiralling" was his idealist phase. Then he realized ideals can not really be met. So he grew bitter. Very bitter.
>>538075138I don't think diplomacy is bitter.He was idealistic but also fanatical. Marx never expected agricultural countries to go directly to communism, he expected it to happen in highly developed capitalist societies, so trying to go directly to communism was a huge issue in both Russia and China, and both were aware of it. Russia under Lenin had decided to allow some market development. Stalin cancelled that because he expected a war could come, a massive war, and wanted Russia to be pushed to industrialization at any cost. Mao followed his policies at Stalin's suggestion, and was his pupil, then after Stalin died the USSR said he was an asshole which shook Mao deeply. We can debate Mao's and Stalin's policies of of course, Stalin was actually right in a way, but the dogmatization of them couldn't really be done under Marxism since they were in uncharted territory, and Mao finally realized that
>>538075020>packing this many lies in to such a small postCarl Marx was a jew whose entire male lineage were rabbis. He deceived the goyim into accepting communism by way of aggressive jewish mimicry. Communism is a jewish political ideology. The communist Bolshevik jews were financed by the jew Jacob Schiff. The jews overthrew the mostly ethnic German intelligentsia in Russia and exterminated all of the Christians in Russia and Ukraine. Communism is and has always been jewish.
>>538074738You want a revolution the DSA will not provide you anyway. The DSA is not capturing immigrants away from capitalists. They are keeping them in capitalism as good cops to the right wing ICE bad cops.>>538074726>>538075020Marx was essentially an apostate/heretical/reformist Jew. Thats what Marxism is. Of course Zionism/mainline Judaism and Marxism can never really reconcile with this in mind. Capitalist and Marxist Jews do unironically hate each other. Thats not fake actually.>>538075109>China explicitly only enforced their one-child policy on the Han because they said it would be genocide to enforce it on other ethnicities>For being so clear-sighted, you seem to have consumed a lot of kool-aidThe one consuming kool-aid is you trying to launder what the PRC does to e.g. the Uyghurs this way.You are as dishonest with this take and PRC line as western capitalists, liberals, conservatives, christians and zionists laundering the Gaza genocide.
>>538056670I mean this is effectively what all the marxist faggots have been going for. It seems like with the recent split against zionist horseshit they figured it was time to make it clear they didn’t back those kikes. The new narrative will of course be that they are “free of jewish influence” when in reality they’re just globalist jews.
>>538056670Rightoids are afraid.Biden was the compromise. Now MIGAtards get put into camps as they've been crying wolf for 30 years.
>>538075326This is just you laundering communist atrocities throughout the 20th century basically.>>538075447The irony is that Communism is essentially the utmost extreme and conclusion to monotheist, abrahamic and christian axiology. The christcuck tsardom just got usurped by an even more rabid beast than itself in the end.
>>538075490Let's stop for just one second. What I said about the one-child policy is not just a Chinese thing, it was universally agreed upon by every academic and every observer, even in Tibet, the only people in Tibet subjected to the one-child policy were Han officials from China. This is not argued or contested. The issue is you have some sort of ideological cynicism, a dogmatic cynicism that makes it impossible for you to accept, it is almost offensive to you. You have adopted cynicism as your idea of wisdom, of being "in the know" and "unfooled" by the idea anything is good or better than anything else. But have you considered that this cynicism itself is an ideology of individualism and selfishness, and not really your own? It immediately crushes and kills any impulse to improve things, and any impulse of solidarity. It makes being a bastard not only a default but a norm, a dogma.
>>538056670They've been growing steadily for the last 10 years you fucking zoomer tourist.
>>538056670Same thing happened with the Republican Tea Party. Some kike invented the term, all the other kikes adopted it, and soon enough everyone was talking about it.
>>538074615>enforces federal laws governing Indeed.
>Oh look! Theres a center-left movement that is even more left-wing than the Dems who wants to tax richfags a bit more>GOP: BOOOOOH.... BE AFRAID! They are all totalitarian communists who will literally steal your house!American politics lol.Europe had plenty of democratic socialist and social democratic governments in many countries and they all still have fair and free elections, private property is very much enforced AND despite all the shitposting here on /pol/ they all have lower immigrant percentages than the US.
>>538075490Marx was a jew who jewed tens of millions of non-jews who believed in him to death. Capitalist jews love communism. Once they have looted a country, ruined the economy, and seized sufficient control over it, they conduct a revolution, seize total control, and starve, rape, and murder all of their political enemies. This is why you have maniac vampire capitalist demonkikes like George Soros backing every destructive left wing cause imaginable. He's not trying to make more money. He's trying to get control of the country. Either the nation returns to nationalism and saves itself or the population is killed off with communism. A-History-of-Central-Banking-Stephen-Mitford-Goodson.pdf - 7.22MBhttps://buzzheavier.com/dm09e7v0bxyg
>>538075490>Marx was essentially an apostate/heretical/reformist Jew. Thats what Marxism is. Of course Zionism/mainline Judaism and Marxism can never really reconcile with this in mind. Capitalist and Marxist Jews do unironically hate each other. Thats not fake actually.And inb4 some schizo chimes in and says that Israel was founded by bolsheviks. No. Israel was run by socdems from 1948 to 1977. Mapai were socdems. Israel was only on good terms with the USSR from 1948 to 1953. Then diplomatic ties were severed because of things like the Doctors plot.The "left" and/or center in Israel are actually traditionally the ones that are the most eager to maintain "the special relationship" whereas the right in Israel tend to be more "its us against everyone else do not trust America either" suicidal eschatological lunacy.¨Curiosly regarding Russia though is that Putin has maintained fairly good relations with Israel due to him being Chabad Lubavitched up to his eyeballs. And if I may indulge my own "schizo" tendencies for a bit though Yuri Andropovs (Putins mentor in the KGB btw) shenanigans during the cold war were sus and could be seen as the Soviets merely using the Arabs as a controlled opposition to Israel in a way. Today you could kind of see Putin doing the same trick with Iran and previously Syria actually. But fundamentally Marxism and Zionism does not really compute.
>>538073998> ally with the reserve army> lmaoWho would ally with white nationalist anti capitalists? The living, breathing left has evolved into a pseudo religion that revolves around race while simultaneously denying its existence, Marxist theory be damned. All this talk about race being a distraction + us needing to all band together as one is rooted in the rejection of the very principle WNs are fighting for, which is that Europeans exist as a genetically defined people and should continue to. So that means opposing the importation of foreigners AND the architects behind it, capitalists. But the average anti capitalist would NEVER be able to see past the heckin racism. You can have two enemies
>>538076321Marx was the first one to describe capitalism as vampires.Marx hated Judaism
>>538075792>Communism is essentially the utmost extreme and conclusion to monotheist, abrahamic and christian axiologyThere's nothing Christian about communism, you retarded demonkike. All of the enemies of communism have always been Christians.
>>538076413The only real white nationalists I have ever known are organized crime and they ally with Mexicans
>>538056670Bullshit. I saw DSA club signs on the local college campus months ago, and I'm all the way in Hawaii. They were offering free pizza to try to get students to show up.
>>538056670They've been around for years and are big reason why Portland is such a shithole now, you only think they just appeared because you're oblivious and now their fruits are paying off and they're replacing establishment dems in major strongholds. It's basically the political wing of antifa and they are both very real and not going anywhere anytime soon.
>>538075793Yeah sure. Keep laundering it I guess. Its all you can do. And call me "cynical". Well how can I not be in a world of both capitalists and marxists that both make me nauseous.>>538076321Soros is a liberal Yitzhak Rabin style zionist socdem who played a pivotal role in collapsing the eastern bloc in the 80s and 90s, you dunce.
>>538076483And after the revolution? Is the new regime gonna adopt white preservation as a central component of its platform? Keep dreamin nigga
>>538076096>we haven't died of our AIDS infection yet so AIDS is harmless!kill yourself retard
>>538076479You are clueless then. You have no conception of either axiology or that Communism merely devoured and usurped a previous phase of the same spiritually reductionist axiology Communism is but the conclusion of and Christianity is just a previous phase of.
>>538076435Marx was a jew hatched by a rabbi you devious bullshit artist kike. Communism is jewish, which is why all of the enemies of communism are always antisemites.
>>538056670>Strange?NOI've known about the DSA for decades, and with the implosion of the Greens due to Bernie Bros and Obama, it was a matter of time before these vicious clowns got more clout in the DNC.>>538057018Of course, too many zoomers are spiritual niggers and want the gibs, and the collapse of the CCCP is far enough away.SOCIALISM IS THE ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY OF Communism.
>>538076523Yeah we’re cooked. Trumps gonna rile them all up and then puss out
>>538076549I am just objective. I don't need to make up Chinese atrocities in my head to validate my cynicism anymore than I need to pretend Mao's policies didn't lead to famines and millions of deaths to validate my idealism>>538076597I think white preservation, like the preservation of any people, can only be accomplished by ensuring housing and necessities and healthcare and work. With those, people naturally reproduce. When they become too scarce, people stop reproducing. I think ensuring family homes and livable (enough to raise a family) wages are the best bet
The DSA reappears every election cycle. It’s basically the left’s “alt-right”. They get a few people into notable offices, they turn out to be boilerplate NeoLibs, their voters get angry but never abandon them because they’re retarded and can be manipulated, rinse and repeat every 2-4 years.
>>538076651Roy Cohn (who the B'nai B'rith threw birthday parties for) was antisemitic when he executed the Rosenbergs now?
>>538076549>socdemDemocratic Socialism is jewish communism, stupid. The jew György Schwartz is a literal demonkike left wing crime boss whose Oxford educated foreign agent coffee boys became CIA director and National Security Advisor. Soros' nigger and jew DAs have unleashed a crime wave on the US and jew slave Trump does nothing about it. All of the jews including Bernie Sanders are zionists because when the jews face the consequences of their actions in the countries they have ruined, they plan to flee to their rats nest that American tax slaves have created for them.
>>538076763>I am just objective. I don't need to make up Chinese atrocities in my head to validate my cynicism anymore than I need to pretend Mao's policies didn't lead to famines and millions of deaths to validate my idealismWhat did I make up in my head then?
>>538076651I'm well aware he was an ethnic Jew. He did not like Judaism or Jewish ethnic networking, he didn't collaborate or network with other Jews, and even disliked fellow Jewish socialist contemporary, Laselle, despite his being the only other significant Jew in the communist movement. Capital is full of multiple jokes about Jews and one about Hebrew being the language of capitalism
>>538076832>Democratic Socialism is jewish communismNo its not. Its Social Liberalism pretending to be Socialistic (its not). Its like when you morons call FDR a communist (he was not).
>>538076763Sure, and what about the fact that the side advocating for those conditions to fundamentally rejects the idea of white preservation at its core? Or practically speaking, will remigration + full border shutdown be on the table in Europe of European WNs side with their “reserve army”, if such an alliance ever survived a revolution? I think you know the answer
>>538076834Chinese genocide of other races and imposing Han culture on them when China has gone out of their way to preserve other ethnic cultures, for example even allowing one to own guns when China bans them for everyone else because it is a cultural thing.China mistreated Uyghurs but no where near as badly as how Putin treated Chechens or Israel treats Palestinians. Certainly they didn't take away their land or genocide them
>>538076883Even Kamala Harris is on the socialistic marxist end. She wants to BAN private health insurance for example. There are no general bans in europe where there is mandatory insurance covered by taxation - because sometimes it is necessary for things like "elective" surgery.
>>538076877Marx mirrors Spinoza in many ways. Marx was indeed partially inspired by Spinoza too.Marx essentially despised mainline and orthodox Judaism. But he was not some self hating antisemite either as is sometimes memed.
>>538076950My sympathy for American WN's is about as much as my sympathy for Jewish nationalists in Israel.I am not European and won't speak on their politics. America is the heart of capitalism and revolution here is what is crucial.
>ja ja, listen there are two jews conspiring to be niggerfaggots right now, yes, ofc, these are their posts>>538056916>>538060735
>>538076982As I say. You just keep laundering it. Arguing with you on this is like running my head into a brick wall so I may as well stop here.>>538076991>Even Kamala Harris is on the socialistic marxist endDo all american right wingers have this brainworm about anything to the left of Trump being marxist, communist and socialist?Its unreal.
>>538077050Switzerland is rally the heart of capitalism, including cities like Vienna in Austria if you actually follow the agencies with real power, like the BIS, or OPEC.
>>538056951>>538056670seems p based to me they're not tankies and they value human quality of life
>>538076793The anti defamation league, which is the public relations department of The Independent Order of Sons of the Covenant, is an anti-White anti-Christian pro-communist jewish supremacist cult. Your anal aids prosecutor was probably brought in to cover up for everyone who wasn't the Rosenbergs.
>>538077003Spinoza changed his name to the Latin form (from Baruch to Benedictus) after he was excommunicated and declared no longer a Jew, and never maintained a friendship with a Jew for the rest of his life after that. There is not really any way to plausibly read his philosophy as a form of Judaism, he mainly wrote on Judaism before he was cursed by the Jewish community, as a way to question it.Marx was not self-hating but he was extremely acrimonious toward Jews and Judaism in his writing.
>>538077101If I accuse you of being a child molester, are you laundering anything to not agree?
>>538077101To say DSA or the DNC left is "social liberal" is obfuscation. They're more like the "left in europe," in that they actively want stop markets, rather than the german way of "optimizing" markets through intervention, which is similar in Sweden.YES,BLOCKING markets is marxist.
>>538077105The dollar is the international reserve currency
>>538077105No. Switzerland, London, Vienna and etc. are subsidiaries of the American hub. Stop deflecting.
>>538077212Not any more,sure it was before.>deflectingstop projecting.>>538077196It's no mystery why a new faction comes out of NYC with Trump, and now the US is getting higher real inflation.
>>538077280The dollar is the international reserve currency because it is backed by oil, I mean the petrodollar, which replaced gold. The petrodollar is explicitly based on an agreement we have with Saudi Arabia to have a military presence in the middle east. So a group campaigning to end that, is effectively campaigning to end the dollar as the reserve currency
>>538077050Ah okay so you’re talking about americas capitalism not europes capitalism lmao
>>538076883>FDR a communist (he was not)The cryptokike Rosenfeld who allied with the communists against European Christians in Germany and Italy, killing tens of millions of White Christians on both sides, was a pawn of the international sock exchange jewish money vampires who backed the Bolshevik revolution against Russia and the Jap assault on Russia before that. The American demonkike financiers created the communist Russia problem, allied with it, and used it to kill countless White Christians. This reminds me of how faggot kike Sir Henry Kissinger created the China problem and now the jews think they are going to press us into a war with the Chinks while they wreck our country domestically. All of these gave political problems have the same root origin.
>>538077366Yes, but solely focusing on the US is obfuscation, without looking at "power centers" and offshore centers even like Panama.
>>538077179Why do you feel the need stoop so low as to use that as an analogy just to win an argument on the internet?Why do you feel offended on behalf of the PRC? Yes you are still laundering for them regardless of whatever depraved analogy you may utilize.
>>538077424FDR was commie adjacent.
>>538077366>The dollar is the international reserve currency because it is backed by oilNope. For many decades the dollar has been backed by White men with guns who will invade your country and kill you if you try to deviate from it. The jews ruined our military by destroying it with the jewish DEI/CRT etc, thus weakening the dollar.
>>538077476communist ally, covert cryptokike
>>538077440The U.S. is the heart and the dollar is the blood. There are other organs but they need that>>538077474I don't care about the PRC at all, you can say Xi and Mao ate children and raped chickens or whatever you please. I am more interested in your particular dogma in this case and how it relates to your worldview
>>538077546>For many decades the dollar has been backed by White men with guns who will invade your country and kill you if you try to deviate from it.Rather that is what backs the petrodollar.
>>538077567Yes, all the Marxists who were in the same club as Marx were radical liberals.It's ahistorical to say somehow radical secular liberalism is in opposition to Marxism when THEY WERE ALL RADICAL LIBERALS.In the classic sense, of "freedom."
>>538077149Spinozas "self hating" antisemitism is very much still debatable and you know that. I love his point about that the survival of Jewry has depended on the hatred of gentiles against themselves though. Which is true. Antisemites and Zionists are like symbionts. They need each other.
>>538077588The US is the military heart, which is important, but "neutral" Switzerland is not the head, because they literally sat there in that 110 year double world war bloodbath....NO
>>538077661Jews as a secular ethnicity didn't exist in Spinoza's time, it was considered completely a religion and apostates from it were seen as no longer Jews, including by other Jews. Spinoza saw both Judaism and Christianity as irrational but was relatively chill about it. He did say burning the Torah would be a good thing and it wouldn't be any more of a sin than Moses smashing the tablets was. He was overall a very chill and patient fellow even as people called him the devil
>>538077185>To say DSA or the DNC left is "social liberal" is obfuscation. They're more like the "left in europe," in that they actively want stop markets, rather than the german way of "optimizing" markets through intervention, which is similar in Sweden.>YES,>BLOCKING markets is marxist.Thats not "blocking" or "stopping". Its regulation. Its Capitalism being saved from itself. Its socdems being the smarmy good cops of Capitalism.>>538077280>>538077406Which continent occupies the other continent militarily? You obstinate mental turds that just will not fucking flush. I swear. >>538077424Yes. American capitalists like Woodrow Wilson, Jacob Schiff, Armand Hammer and Franklin D. Roosevelt cynically and pragmatically aided and financed the Bolsheviks. I know. So did european capitalistsm, statesment and monarchs. Does not make them ideological marxists, communists, socialists or whatever though.
>>538077440No. Blaming Europe is classic American deflection and projection. Because just like there does not seem to be a hebrew word for accountability the same word and the meaning of it being adopted seems abscent from american english and the american psyche.
>>538056670This proves the DSA is a legitimate threat to Israel.
>>538077991There are state level government "sick funds" in every german state. You can buy private insurance, and it is regulated. BANNING a market is not "regulating.">Its avarice being saved from itself. Its German Conservatives being the smarmy good cops of Christian DemocracyThis game is tiresome, "capitalism" is a marxist strawman.
>>538077621The root power is lethal force from White men though. The USD and everything that depends on it has been running on the fumes of White men. The oil is in a sense an abstraction or middle instrument. Although it's not thought of in this way, at the highest level, the financial system is in fact an instrument of psychological control. >>538077991>So did european capitalistsm, statesment and monarchs.jew slaves
>>538077637America IS Radical Liberalism the country. The most radical liberal who ever lived was Harry Truman that had to prove just how liberal, "free and democratic" he really was by nuking civilians TWICE started the cold war. Was he allied with Marxists you say? Japan had already surrendered to the invading USSR in 1945. But Truman dropped Fat Man and Little Boy anyway on them not just to demoralize Japan but to intimidate the Soviets as well.
>>538078091It's power centers in Europe, yes.Not "YUROP" like I think the average Swede is benefitting from some nameless Duke in Liechtenstein laughing at all his schemes.
>>538078372Yeah, Truman was probably an agent of "those people."
>>538078182But markets are not banned under Social Democracy. You are the one strawmanning and hyperventalating, clown.
>>538078330Bro lol. The lethal force is air strikes amd drones. Not white men with rifles. Oir soldiers on the ground will ALWAYS get their shit pushed in on a ground engagement without massive air support
>>538078566You misread the original comment. There are Democrats in the US WHO WANT TO DO THAT, who have a constituency in the DNC.They're not even "social democrats" in the EU sense.>>538076991>She wants to BAN private health insurance for example. There are no general bans in europe where there is mandatory insurance covered by taxation
>>538078407Nameless dukes in Liechtenstein do not run shit. Wall Street runs shit. Stop deflecting. Stop projecting. Take accountability.>>538078490But still not a "commie" or even allied with them.
>>538078658>You misread the original comment. There are Democrats in the US WHO WANT TO DO THAT, who have a constituency in the DNC.X to doubt. Sounds like either left wing populist posturing for votes or right wing concern trolling to me.
>>538078686>Wall Street runs shitYeah, that is the shiny light for you. Sure it's there, and NOBODY KNOWS IT......you vicious clown.
>>538076087god you mutts are retarded. here is a baseball analogy. border = home plate, CBP = infield, ICE = outfield. if the ball is hit, CBP is supposed to catch it before it makes it to the outfield (the interior of US territory). if the ball is hit too hard, it makes it to the outfield out of CBP's reach where its up to ICE to catch the ball.anyways, abolish ICE. CBP need to grow longer legs.
>>538078686>But still not a "commie" or even allied with them.Truman humiliated Japanese Nationalists - sure not as bad as the 100 year humiliation of German nationalists, but still.
>>538078962You're retarded, or a bot.Common law for decades have turned many US jurisdictions into open border zones.It's why the same uniparty is so butthurt now - the common law is finally being overturned.
>>538077940Jews are not a secular ethnicity. Thats a modern liberal western meme since Napoleon. Its a cult comprising several disparate ethnicities the world over. Its a cosmopolitan albeit exclusivist (unlike the other two much more inclusivist universal abrahamic cults Christianity and Islam). Abrahamism is basically something of a non-racial caste system. Jews on top. Muslims as more fine tuned noahides in the middle. Christians as more imperfect noahides at the bottom.Spinoza was a very brave man actually. A brilliant mind that could actually somewhat deprogram himself from this almost four thousand year old cult.
>>538056951Look bottom line for you judaized shitlibs. You can have everything to the left of abolish ICE in exchange for the total restoration of the demography of the US to its pre-1965 status. The "nazis" can tolerate a lot of your mental illnesses and bullshit but not usury or demographic attacks. FYI, you will never be able to achieve any of these goals without close to total racial homogeneity anyway. >>538078632Sure, technology is changing warfare, and the jews who shipped all of our manufacturing over to Asia so they could fuck the White man and pay slaves lower wages killed our strategic edge. That being said, at the end of the day, countries are overthrown by men with rifles in a ground invasion. No country has ever been defeated with an air campaign and/or drones. Also, drones are easy to defeat, including the fiberopitc ones but our government is run by retards so they cant' figure it out.
>>538078794Oh sure I am supposed to stop believing my lying eyes and research, you vicious clown.>>538078974Truman also humiliated himself in his youth by standing outside the bathroom of his jewish neighbours while they were taking a shit for him to then have to flush for them. Yes. He was a literal shabbos.
>>538079098>the common law is finally being overturned.no stability without the law. you may get a pure white america for all of five seconds but without legal backing its an unstable situation and will just result in blowback by a new administration
>>538079309>You can have everything to the left of abolish ICE in exchange for the total restoration of the demography of the US to its pre-1965 status.That's fantasy, the two bonds that keep that current "progressive" coalition together is "hate whitey" and anti zionism.
>>538056670>came out of nowhereThey just stopped calling themselves antifa once people caught on.
>>538079348"Common law" is judge made law, "interpretations" of a statute.There are judges who simply ignore or change statutes to such a degree it's simple corruption.
>>538077134What happened was that a bunch of Trotskyists in the US flipped and became the embryo of the neocons. I also know that Bernard Baruch handpicked Roy Cohn to run McCarthys whole show from a motivation of proving that Jews can be anticommunist.
>>538079397Correct but all of these political fiefdoms are unnecessary. Going through the laundry list. tax the rich and corporations - nazis require business to reinvest their profits in the state for the well being of the volkuniversal healthcare - rational if you're taking care of your own peopleaffordable housing - deport 100 million aliens and housing will become much less scarce and you can live where you want because you won't be in a high crime nigger jungle climate action - green finance climate hoax bs, plant huge quantities of treesfree college education - reasonableraise the minimum wage - fine but everything will be less expensive without aliens draining all of our wealth and depressing wagesThe political right doesn't like jews or support zionism because the jews are a domestic cancer. The political left who are White would need to be deprogrammed from hating themselves. The ideological distance between what the shtilibs want and what White Nationalists want is not that great. >>538079673>What happened was that a bunch of Trotskyists in the US flipped and became the embryo of the neocons. Demonkikes who liked the ideology of the jew Lev Davidovich Bronstein decided to seize control of the political right and used it to create Greater Israel for themselves at our expense. >I also know that Bernard Baruch handpicked Roy Cohn to run McCarthys whole show from a motivation of proving that Jews can be anticommunist.Pretty much what I expected. Investigations by the feds are more often used to cover up crimes than to solve them.
>>538079673>I also know that Bernard Baruch handpicked Roy Cohn to run McCarthys whole show from a motivation of proving that Jews can be anticommunist.This does not mean that it was something contrived to try and obfuscate how all Jews are Communists or some american redneck logic like that. It was just needed at the time because it was a common perception at the time in white middle America basically. Coastal elite Capitalist and Zionists Jews were of course terrified of this so they had to prove themselves somehow. Roy Cohn became their savior in this regard.
>>538079932>Demonkikes who liked the ideology of the jew Lev Davidovich Bronstein decided to seize control of the political right and used it to create Greater Israel for themselves at our expense.What complicates this though is that Trotsky himself was a staunch anti-zionist.But yes. The neocons were originally basically all ex-trotskyists that flipped during McCarthyism.
>>538078794And hey look. I do not even hate America or Americans if thats how you perceive me right now. I am not fond of your coastal elites though. Few are. Including many Americans themselves.
