Ever since we started intensifying food production, conservation and distribution, we've had to introduce research chemicals into our food&water supply and so, body.Most of these chemicals (edcs, etc) are especially bad to the fetus during vital development phases, essentially disrupting the "normal" development.This has lead to a 50%~ decline of testosterone in males over few generations. But also of sperm count, sperm quality and for females egg quality, general health.In short, we are about 50% weaker than our grandparents were. This is almost obvious once you look at generation 3+ (Zoomers+), we look underdeveloped (and we are lol).Again, this is mostly noticeable generation by generation since it impacts fetuses and not much adult systems.Women are much more "hit" than men, because they produce their eggs during fetal development while males produce sperm later on. This is important because if we were to magically clean the environment, or at least make our intake 0, males would likely produce much healthier sperm in a few months (although with some limitations), while women cannot biologically produce new eggs, making them practically useless.Why the fuck would I want 100% certainty of a weak child if I can select a less fetally-exposed woman from some 3rd world country?But this is assuming we cared enough about it at scale, obviously we don't and rich people definitely already have their own healthy, out of the grid, concubines or surrogates.What I would like to discuss in this thread is what the implications of our general health (bad term, should be "strength" but biological strength) decline are, and how could someone in the system escape and have healthy offspring? Is a breakaway society the only option?
For context, grandpa and grandson.
It's definitely noticeable in taste and texture too. I've sucked off men in every age bracket and you can feel it get worse the younger it goes. It's a day-and-night comparison between swishing a mouthful of sperm from an 80-year-old and a 20-year-old.
>>538085110Wait im confused which sperm taste better to you? lol
And before people swarm the thread with "muh obesity, muh manual labor. muh smoking", there are a lot of studies that indicate the decline adjusted for BMI is the same, adjusted for smokers is the same. And obviously if some fatso were to pick up some weight and get in shape, his testosterone would go up, still not close to "normal" baseline. But this doesn't account for the vast majority of people below obesity, active or not that still saw a decline over a few generations.Also modern obesity is an issue that started with the agricultural intensification, so to link them is great, but to think that solving one would solve the other, I don't agree with.
i noticed i produce much more sperm in a carnivore diet. im poor tho so i cant sustain it for long. i saw the effects of higher testosterone in my body because i finally got interested in finding a job and going out to meet women during that period. i guess im back to testlet since i just masturbated and the result was no good but the mind effects are still here
>>538084941I know, hut Imm moving to Croatia so I shoupd be fine.
>>538085364i suspect 70-80% of males between the ages of 20 and 40 in 2026 should be on TRT, mostly in western countries
>>538084941thirdworlder shitskins are low TSame with IQ>kids today have lower IQ than 50 years agokids today are no where as white as they were 50 years agoIf you only check whites, nothing changed in last 50 years, and knowing that shitskins were somewhat present even back then, testing only whites in T levels and IQ scores would probably show increase in both
>>538085438I think most of these countries are lagging 1 generation behind, and the right move would probably be to find a relatively healthy girl there and bring it to a 1st world country were regulations are better, or a smaller exotic state where food production has not been poisoned
>>538085110tftp
>>538084941Lmao at you low test faggots.>it's the genetics>it's the pollution>it's the microplastics>it's the *your bullshit excuse here*Just sleep well (7-9h daily), eat well (meat, eggs, fatty fish, dairy products, whole grain products, fruits and vegetables, the less processed the better), exercise and don't drink alcohol/use nicotine/smoke weed. Last tested 734 ng/dl @ 34 years old.
>>538085634tbu
>>538085110
>>53808544670-80% of males between the ages of 12-50 should move their ass more wtf do you need strenght for to ride a fucking car and elevator everywhere
>>538085565I believe some studies filtered by country of origin, decline was still present.>>538085634have a kid and tell me how it goes KEK
>>538085737you don't see the fucking point do you?. There's a difference AT BIRTH. And no amount of physical exercise changes that.the baseline used to be 800-900ng/dL and is now 400, if you exercised before you went into 1000+ territory but now you can maybe reach 600ng/dL.But you probably can't understand this as you live in poland lol, you are lagging behind 1 generation for sure since industrialization came later
>>538085606Even 1 generation behind is huge at this stage. Look how fast it all changes. 1 gen before is like supermen, we are devolving fast.
>>538085994Its like when you domesticate dogs and sheep. It goes into dna. They can also go to wild again so can we.
>>538085748I dont believe that at allif they have room to muddify something they will do itWithout clear, unapologetic, transpartent, no way can be interpreted differently clear case multi independent observers confirmed study that what you say is correct, i dont buy it.
>>538087016that's fine, you don't buy it but you buy the food we have been magically producing at 100x rate compared to 80 years ago, to the point that we can throw away a huge amount every day.Yeah totally normal and natural, won't have any consequences.
>>538086905right but those countries lagging behind have already adopted "modern" industrialization and consumerism. It's not like the food there is healthy, its the same as here but the chain was poisoned 10-30 years later. But I definitely think that some countries are worth looking into and specific parts of those countries might actually be non-poisoned.All it needs is a sort of sturdy farmer that refuses modern practices, with cattle too
>>538085438Croatia has some very attractive women
>>538084941Oh, look, a thread by a faggot was posted.
>>538089182>SOMEcroatia has BEST WOMEN IN WORLDThey are so beautiful, thin, ladylike, overall friendly, truly nice and but very hot when they want to be, seductive and on top of that they are actually traditional, meaning they almost exclusively date croatsWhich is actually best thing about them, cause after first 2 inches, their pussies are brand new.
>>538089182>AttractiveFaggot.Japan has some very sexy wamen.
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>>538089182woman with high testosterone is almost normal like a guy and can even be reasomed with and they fuck more than guys and dont scheme. I had one she had it so high it fucked up her eggs and she was best gf ever Im sad I didnt wife her and addopt. Get a high testo woman she will be more feminine than crazy feminine ones. I think the trick is to check if she has tiny hair line down her spine. That means a keeper.
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I'm pinning test E and deca once a week, why leave it up to nature.I'm mid 30s I don't care if I die honestly I just never want to be weak again.
