>"More lanes doesn't improve traffic">Remove lanes to make traffic worseAre cycleshits retarded?
Yes. They are not for nothing the most hated traffic participants. Run a bicyclist over with your truck, they glow
>Replaces parking with nothinggood idea
>>538117403Yes. They are useful idiots for the elites promoting 15 minute cities.
They just assume more people will use public transportation but don't factor in niggers.
>>538117403We don't give a fuck about improving traffic you car cattle we want to eliminate it and improve quality of life.>>538117520You'll do fuck all. Keep paying your cattle box taxes to the Jews
>>538117403It's a great idea, simply reduce the population first.
>>538117714>they are useful idiots for the elitesSays the carcattle who literally funds the elites and obeys their rules.
>>538117618They need state run parking garages that charge the local businesses for their maintenance so it's free for customers to use.
>>538117403I don't know what retard looked at their average city and though "Oh yeah we will never need roads wider than 2 lanes!"
>>538117520People assume that I hate cyclists because I drive everywhere. They don't understand the half of it. I still have to walk to places from my car. I was walking through Cabot Circus and I was almost hit several assholes on bikes.Nigger, it's a shopping mall, not a bike lane.
The point is to design streets that encourage people to use any mode of transportation other than a car. Make public transit more plentiful so people take buses. Add protected bike lanes (as in there's a physical barrier preventing cars from entering, not just a painted white line) and people will be more willing to bike. Less cars, less traffic.
>>538117403Bike lanes kind of make sense now with electric bikes. For $1,500.00 a wagie can buy a new electric bike to get to and from work. We will probably see a big increase on people being ran over but that’s a small price to pay to save the planet.
>>538117836yeah, its the jews who are pushing this 15 minute shitty stuff you retard.
>>538117403>no parking on rightCool I didn’t want to go to the gay nigger store anyway
>>538117403Just follow the logic and reduce lanes to zero.
>>538117919only a retard doesn't appreciate tactical mobility
>>538117994You have niggers and nigger drivers. It won’t work there
>>538117994this, i'd love a partitioned bike lane that had good passing, would use it to get around town instead and not pay the gas jew and stave off the doctor jew and show the nog who's town it is. anyone in a rush driving is just doing it to fulfill some employment jew anywayessentially TKD
>>538117403>"More lanes doesn't improve traffic"Well duh.If your road can handle a car every 2 seconds, it's obvious that you have to be able to get cars OFF that road FASTER than every 2 seconds innit?It's obvious that it's the parking that is the problem.This is simple arithmetic anon.
Cyclists always fucking reek, they also have this crazy look in their eyes
>>538118156You're unemployed and cant afford a car.
>>538117806Even in non nigger areas they refuse to understand people transport shit in cars. I could carry my groceries on a bus, it fucking sucks and I hate it so won't do it willingly.
>>538117403No one ever uses bike lanes or carpool lanes enough to justify the expense of building them in most areas. All they do is create excess traffic and in the process waste fuel and create more CO2.
>>538118202>noooo you have to spend on insurance, gas and maintenance! If you don't you're BAD!Cars are great for private interstate travel, or even getting between cities quickly when no public transit option is available (basically everywhere). You don't HAVE to drive between locations that are just a mile or two apart, and if you do you're a lazy nigger.
>>538117403More lanes make traffic worse because there's a fixed amount of size in a block, so removing 1% of the block to make more road means removing one block's area per square mile. Which means everything has to be farther apart, so you have to drive further to get to the same places, which makes traffic worse.
>>538117403Put cyclists on sidewalks and pedestrians on the grass
>>538117403A 5 laner next to a sidewalk is fucking retardedIts bad enough in a urban environment with 3 lanes+ bike lane for retards under 60kph
>>538117403>just sit in the street that shitskins drive on>just cycle down the street, the pajeets are good drivers and follow the rules!kek they're retarded to even live in a city these days... now asking for seating in the streets is a whole different level of retard-ism.
>>538117994I had to get a car because I couldn't stand having to deal with all the fucking flood of Indians on the Bus and Trains. Minorities and druggies ruin everything.
>>538117403The two-lane streets that have been the standard around my home for decades were recently reduced to one-lane roads - while turning the former lanes into raised bike paths that are entirely unused, leaving the remaining lane congested. The only time I've seen bikers around is when I was stuck behind three bikers that decided to use the main road rather than the bike path specifically made for them. Imagine that. Having your taxdollars pay to limit you to one lane so that bikers can have their path, only for those bikers to still use the road. You cant go around them. You're just stuck.
>>538117403>GREEN SPACESmore places for knifey spics to hide>WIDE FOOTPATHSmore room for niggers to haymaker your granny>CYCLE TRACKSblocking my GOD given right to travel in my property>SEATING SPACESfent bum hotels>BUS LANESsubnormal wagie injection system
>>538117403>More lanes doesn't improve trafficThis is kind of true. Haven't you ever played Cities Skylines?The basic idea is that improving traffic flow in one area only causes problems in other areas, so by limited traffic in one intersection, you can alleviate problems in other intersections. It's not all about the one thing you are trying to fix, but the system as a whole.
>>538118348I'll drive wherever I like, faggot.
>>538118828>More lanesnot more lanes per se, I do what Milton Keynes did and added more dual carriageways. Spreading out the intersections will reduce traffic, not combining them all into one road.>t. 400hrs on cities skylines.
>>538117618go to a designated parking lot and pay for keeping your mobile trash in the city.
>>538117403They're not retarded. They just want the roads that your taxes pay for to prioritise them over everybody else while at the same time being able to break all the rules of the road themselves.
>>538118789>raised bike pathsWhat is this insanity?No wonder nobody cycles in Carmerica.
>>538117403This worked well in buenos aires.>>538117714Idk, but if you live in one already this would make it better.
>>538118225Yeah because they give no incentives to use them.No one wants to bicycle around five inches from a car lane for the same reason people call motorcycles """death machines""", when its your toothpick of a bike vs a three ton truck that the driver literally can't see around itself without a suite of cameras, guess which one puts the other in more danger.
>>538119098>What is this insanity?It's just an expansion of the sidewalk for bikes.
>>538117403no one will want to go there because there's no parking
>>538117618it's so the jews can impose draconian time restrictions like 5 mins only when every business/service you're there for takes 15-20mins. they will then also own a very unsecured lot that charges per hour with a minimum of 4 hours with no security cameras, poor lighting, and lots of niggers and junkies hanging around.welcome to america; fuck off we're full of niggers.
>>538117403It's a retarded knee jerk reaction to a real problem.The way zoning in America works is fucked up because of relative wealth in the post war period and desegregation also on the same period. What happened was that people preferred cars over other means of transportation and they still prefer them. This is why bike cucks ideas, when actually implemented and effective at cutting down traffic are all about making car ownership more annoying. Remove parking spots and make them paid, introduce low emission zones increasing barrier of entry, put 30km/h speed limit over large swathe of the city etc.You can't improve public transport to rival a car. You will always have to walk to the stop, then board the bus or whatever and then walk from the stop you get off the bus on to your destination and that's assuming you have direct route(Warsaw is a good top 90th percentile when it comes to public transport, I've spent 6 years there without a car, you won't get direct routes too often in practice). So the only way to make it comparable to a car is to make doing the same course with a car more miserable.So what happens in a country that has easy access to cars even in the 1920's that suddenly has to cope with not being able to hold unwanted elements out by open segregation? They zone everything to the point where the residential area is purely residential(with property prices holding undesirables out) and commercial area is purely commercial and since nobody will use anything but a car to get there if given an option you get "le car centric infrastructure problem".
>>538119895>What happened was that people preferred cars over other means of transportation and they still prefer them.Yeah surely there weren't massive industry lobbies planning out america as a car-based society, or anything like that.
>>538118839No, you'll drive your government registered car on government built roads paying your mandatory goy insurance premiums, parking only where the government allows you to, the price of your fuel will be dictated by foreign countries, and you'll live a more sedentary lifestyle with worse health.And you're such a good little goy that you PAY to do it! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>538117403>take a busKek. Nope.
>>538117403Do free gibs programs promote laziness, the opposite, or do they have no effect?/pol/ will say that gibs create more impoverished blacks, because they actually promote a system of dependence based on not working. In other words, the 'solution' actually aggravates the problem.Curiously enough, they will REFUSE to acknowledge the parallel with car lanes. You see, when they think they can benefit from the program rationality goes out the window.You'd think this could be solved by simply looking at the data. Does adding more lanes help or hurt traffic? The response?>I don't care about data I care about my lanes gib me more lanesSad
>>538117994> he willfully takes a ride with the GESINDELRAUPE
>>538117403Yes.
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>>538117403There are NEVER that many cyclists on a road outside of asia.
>>538118950>>538117836>>538117919why are the biggest cycle fags always so transparently coping due to povertyit's ALWAYS a cope from a place of poverty, every single time
>>538117930Actually smart
>>538117403>removes lanes>provides no other alternatives other than sporadic, possibly dangerous bus lines and sparsely spread train lines>Just bike 15 miles to work bro>>538117806This, plus urban planners think everyone lives 15 minutes away from work. Most of these guys are rootless cosmopolitans poached from other cities anyways
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>>538117403I like the "green" design. Every time you park you get to run over cyclists.
>>538118825Yep.
>>538117994none of this would work where I live. it's too damn hot, and only idiots take bikes, walk, and only poors ride the bus.
>>538117836>we want to improve quality of life. That is a lie. You faggots are trying to ban air conditioning while people die from heat.
>>538120542and as an American bonus, every time they get uppity and break a mirror or something, you can just shoot them
>>538120456>>Just bike 15 miles to work broi agree. cycling makes sense in the netherlands because its a smaller country and very densely populated. my work is only 3 miles from home so i cycle there. cycling 15 miles is too much.theres a supermarket within 300 yards from every dutch home, so you cycle there or just walk if its closer still.
>>538120479The way they fall over like fucking bowling pins always makes me laugh.
>>538117403You aren't supposed to drive your car all the time. Car for personal use like grocery runs. Bus for basically everything else. 1 bus can take 40 cars off the street.
>>538120425Why is it always cyclists ignoring warningsigns and environmental dangers. They're like lemmings
>>538120425god if only the cable was at decapitation height
Right has a constant 16/24h a day traffic jam because of the reduced lanes/streets and because it will take hours of driving in circles to find a parking spot. It is is stressful for drivers and pedestrians alike. Something faggots need to understand is that 99% of people in a car are going to work or coming from work it's not an optional leisure ride. t. live in right
>>538120740Easier said than done. The journey is 3.8 miles btw.
>>538117994Great, lets add a tax on those biking around then. Since the average car will pay about 1 to 2k a year in gas taxes plus registration and insurance fees, we can go ahead and charge each person riding a bike about 2k a year to upkeep the road and future upkeep projects. Also, you need to have a black box on your bike at all time to assist in traffic violations as well as a registered license plate so if you are caught on camera doing illegal shit you can be ticketed.Now you can claim you own part of the road rather than freeloading. That said, this is obviously the cheap introductory price, as we are losing 2/3 of our vehicle income that goes directly into the commons upkeep for every city, this will have to increase to make up for that loss over the next few years.You also need to now buy personal injury insurance to help cover your inevitable healthcare when you crash out ignoring traffic laws. Another 1k a year at least per bike should help cover that plus some margin for the insurance guys. Its all only fair as you are getting everything for free currently and its time for you to pull your weight as now there will be fewer cars to cover your expenses that are currently hidden.
>>538117403They are not retarded. They are nature's jews. They will lie to you in any way possible to get rid of cars. Even in contradictory ways at once. They don't believe any of it. It is merely a means to an end. A cyclist is a disgusting and selfish creature.
>>538120207>they will REFUSE to acknowledge the parallel with car lanes.Because there isn't a parallel, road user charges pays for itself.
>>538117403The entire point is that you make public transport extremely good, ubiquitous, and cheap, so nobody will bother taking their car downtown because other options are better. It needs to be done at scale.
>AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH COMMUNISTS ARE TRYING TO TURN MY PARKING SPACES INTO HOMES AND BUSINESSES AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN>Bulldoze that cathedral and build a parking lot over it now now NOW NOW NOW!!!Why are Americans like this?
>>538117403Social media is full of retarded stuff saying>Don't do this>Do thisAnd it's because they need to make a post today.Any time somebody is giving you a "tip" they're doing it because they need to post something to hold their place in the algo and collective consciousness.They're full of shit, and you should ignore everything presented in this format
>>538121041I cycle instead of drive in summer. But I don't see why there's a need to pretend a dedicated cyclelane should be fucking running everywhere, just jump on the sidewalk where needed and arrest cyclists who cycle dangerously.
All of these ideas are great, except when you consider niggers
I don't get the eurocuck fascination with walking. Imagine willingly subjecting yourself to the suffering you have to go through when crossing the parking lot and going as far as designing your cities around it. Straight out of 1984.
Muh green spaceI hate this nigger shit like you wouldn't believe, yes, put down more woodchips that some landscaper has to come out and play with, then put down invasive shitty pear trees (that grow no edible pears), better put a tree there but it can't be a naturally dwarf tree we have to put one in that's ugly, invasive, looks like every other shitty tree, and probably dies 50% of the time.I've been to like ONE parking lot that actually did "muh green space" good, it just had walkways in the center of every lane that had trees planted around them. If your "green space" is a sea of concrete and woodchips with one tiny retarded tree it's not a green space, you're larping and wasting money.>>538120720>Smaller country densely populatedAnd flat. I did a 5 mile biking commute (one way) for my first job, the return trip was all uphill and it would get extremely windy for the final mile of it, making it twice as hard when you were the most tired.
>>538117403More lanes doesn't reduce traffic though. There are tons of studies that show this. You widen a road and more cars just come in and fill up the new lanes and traffic patterns don't change.
>>538121131For the most part no one drives downtown anyway. Why is the cycle lane bullshit spreading out? My local hospital is ringed by a cyclelane, which just means ambulances get stuck in traffic returning with patients.
>>538117403if you get rid of lanes and parking, people are incentivized to not drive their lifted f9000s 2 miles to the shartmart, and instead walk or bike for that trip insteadthe remaining drivers, who are taking more meaningful trips, have less traffic to deal with and can get where they're going faster
You fags keep wanting to add lanes and redo traffic patterns, but you can't move the buildings. There's only so much space. That's why when you absolutely DEMAND a bike lane, you get one that's as wide as my shoe, because you ignore reality. Not like you would use it anyway, as we've all seen.
>>538121192>Business district, USA>Suburb, Germanywhat a retarded comparason.
>>538121453>but you can't move the buildingsYes you can. It's called eminent domain and then controlled demolition.
>>538121010cars pay all sorts of taxes because they chew up infrastructure. if you wanted to put a new sales tax on bikes to fund the construction sure, but you don't have to completely rebuild the road every year due to bike trafficyou also don't need insurance because there's no way a bike is going to cause injuries or property damage like a caralso the fact that you need to make up fake bullshit to equalize the cost of biking to driving kind of proves how much better biking is, and how the only reason people drive is because they have no choice in the matter
>>538121575>because there's no way a bike is going to cause injuries or property damage like a carThey absolutely can kill or more commonly maim you if they hit a pedestrian. And the cycler should be insured.
>>538117403>3 lanes + 2 parking lanes in a citywhere?
>>538117403Based design, death to auto lobbyistsNow go fuck yourself, aspirational amerigoylem
>>538117403I'd ease congestion by deporting 20,000,000 foreigns.
>>538117714This. Intentional bottle necks to force the masses into controlled transportation
>>538117403Thank the UK PEDO MASS MURDERING ROYALS...RETARD BRITISH blame the MPs when the ROYALS have all the say...If we BRITISH don't ABOLISH THE ROYALS we are FUCKED,,TOTALLY FUCKED..ROYALS ARE TRAITORS who think they can do what they likes..When do we name a day TO DRAG THEIR UGLY TWAT FACES OUT OF THE UK..WHEN WHEN WHEN..
>>538121575Cars hardly do shit. 99% of the damage is from heavy trucks being used to ship things, like the food you eat.
>>538122184RAT KING wants the GREEN BULLSHIT..RAT KING WANTS THE FAKE PANDEMIC..RAT KING WANTS THE IMMIGRANTS..RAT KING WANTS THE DIGITAL ID..RAT KING WANTS ALL THE SAY..WAKE UP RETARD BRITISH DICKHEADS..
>>538121575you are demanding that infrastructure. So now you can pay for it. And there already is a sales tax on your cheap lame bike. Now you get to get a tax on your actual use of the commons. Nothing wrong with it and you can pay like cars do.That infrastructure you want, was bought and paid for by vehicles. Now you want that piece, be thankful if you only get off as cheap as I described, you could end up being charged to pay for the changes to the road way and traffic patterns on top of the upkeep charge.And if you don't think THAT is coming should cars actually get phased out, I've a bridge to sell your dumb ass. Those roads and pathways WILL be paid and it will be paid by you.And you won't have a choice. That is how it works. It only seems that way right now, because nobody was losing enough when it was compartmentalized in some overly rich areas with low traffic and vehicle taxes were not directly effected. Every city in the nation will start directly taxing bikes and riders if they lose their incomes. Unlike the feds, they have to tax people to keep paying their own salaries.Those salaries come before your grifting ass. So pay up. You don't even have the car upkeep or gas costs so you can be charged plenty higher. And nobody likes you anyway so its a plus on the ol voting record. Plenty of small towns did this shit already too btw, add bike lanes, then a year or two later removed them since they immediately lost both vehicle tax incomes (omfg that is measured per street) and sales taxes as foot traffic went down every time.Until the cities look like Mumbai you won't have the voting numbers to stop this, and by the time it does, it'll be generations of bike taxes and charges.>dipshit is angry cause he didn't realize hes gonna have to actually start paying for that stolen shitlollmao
>>538118225>to justify the expense>implying people using them is the goalGraft is the goal. All these public works projects that smell retarded are retarded because you're assuming they're trying to improve things for the local residents. All they're doing is creating a interface by which they can extract tax money and give it to their friends and relatives. It's why those types are so obsessed with giant rail projects and shit like the homeless. It's stuff that's going to take years to decades to address and so schedule slip doesn't seem abnormal. The more nebulous the completion state the longer they can string it along and the more money they can extract. These projects are not for the benefit of anyone but the people who voted to fund them in the legislature.
>>538120010>you'll drive your government registered carCompared to a government owned business system with a schedule set by the government.>on government built roadsInstead of being largely fund by taxes and fees specific to privately own vehicles, it will now be charged to everyone through increased taxes to fund road maintenance and now fleet maintenance.>paying your mandatory goy insurance premiums,Now everyone is stuck paying for the nigger causing the bus to run through a local shop.>parking only where the government allows you to,Can only travel from point A determined by the government to point B determined by the government and all done in the government determined schedule.>the price of your fuel will be dictated by foreign countries, The price of tickets to travel now has 6 levels of politicians and beruacrats skimming funds and jacking prices>and you'll live a more sedentary lifestyle with worse health.You will have zero free time and loose hours at work from a 15 min drive turning into a 2 hour bus trip twice a day. Your back and knees will give out by 50 from having to carry every you buy through a mass transit system or you will burn through your savings paying for delivery.
>>538120435Not poverty, inability to get a license. The vast majority of the seething commies are to incompetent to pass a basic driving test.
>>538121462That's the DOWNTOWN of two similarly sized cities, not a suburb or a business district. Here's another.Look at how much high value land American cities dedicate to parking and roads.>>538122513Walking, cycling, and public transport infrastructure supports denser urban centers which are the biggest generators of tax revenues. The roads and parking you want are subsidised by dense urban centers that are actually productive and not just a drain on public finances like your fat ass.You also want to tax walking to pay for sidewalks? Dumbass.
>>538117403No they just hate themselves and everyone around them
>>538123140>high value land>Lincoln, which is in fucking Nebraska.
>>538121397No, the business go bankrupt because the only market for foot traffic is trinkets for tourist. The businesses that need to make sales will have vehicle access.All you bike lanes do is convert a business district into skid row.
Cyclists are niggers regardless of their skin tone. Only a nigger would be so uppity and entitled to behave as they do on the road when they're on a childrens toy and you're in a multi-ton fully encapsulated engine of plastics, glass, and steel. Just like niggers in sufficiently rural areas they know their place and behave more reasonably but as proximity to the city increases, their density rises, and the retarded cityfags cater to them more and more, rather than improving anything, they instead become increasingly full of themselves, a menace to the society around them, and oblivious to the consequences of their own actions. Cyclists are niggers and less cycling infrastructure, not more, is the only thing that makes them mindful of their surroundings and circumstance and able to behave in the society which they exist.
>>538123680A bicycle path costs like 1/20th what a road costs, takes up 1/10th the space, and can move 5x as many people per second. It's genuinely a far, far more efficient way to move people
>>538123140so you are claiming an entire continent can be converted into dense urban centers. interesting, who is going to pay for that? For example, your karlsruhe is 64 sq miles, Lincoln is 104 sq miles.Karlsruhe's next closes city is 38 miles away, that city is 80 sq miles. Lincolns next closes city is 60 miles away, that city is 143 sq miles. From there, it gets exponential how different the sizes are. The entire population of nebraska is about 2 million. The population of germany is just under 84 million.Now, why would a population of 2 million humans, need to be constructed the same way as a population of 84 million paki's?
>>538122879The point is driving gives you less freedom than it seems. Unless you're a siberian nomad you aren't escaping reliance on the government.>Instead of being largely fund by taxes and fees specific to privately own vehicles, it will now be charged to everyone through increased taxes to fund road maintenance and now fleet maintenance.The money saved from not needing to buy and maintain a car is spent on other things that are taxed, offsetting any losses and avoiding a need for increased taxes. More efficient transportation supports denser urban centers creating more economic activity and driving up tax revenues.>15 min drive turning into a 2 hour bus tripThe assumption is that the public transport will actually be good. A 15 min drive becoming 2 hours on public transport is the result of a shitty implementation and not an inherent problem of public transportation.>The price of tickets to travel now has 6 levels of politicians and beruacrats skimming funds and jacking pricesYou can actually affect the price of public transport. Public transport is also able to charge less by being orders of magnitude more efficient than private cars, and basically every large European city offers transport that is cheaper than driving.Plus, walking and cycling are FREE and are good for your health.>having to carry every you buy through a mass transit systemIf your back gives out from carrying groceries, see a doctor. And as for the cost, how often are you ordering a new couch or washing machine? Even getting these delivered is not that expensive, and could be easily paid for by the money saved from not owning a car.>>538123278Land at the center of a 300k population city is high value, yes.
The only way to improve traffic is to reduce a country's population. Otherwise have fun with your increasingly more over-the-top "traffic calming" measures until there's a magic roundabout every 20 metres of road.
>>538124292Bike in the city. Train between cities
>>538117403lol, ride muh bicycle peasant!!!We can move many more niggers around.
>>538117994Until niggers are made less plentiful no one is riding the bus by choice.
>>538117930That can work but my Local council has raised prices from 2 quid an hour to 2.80 and made people pay for Saturdays.Others have stupid 2 or 4 Hour limit's when they are the only Parking available.
>>538125091so, europe has trains going to places with a population density of .02 people per mile? Just to be within say 3 miles of a location?
>>538118732>I had to get a car because I couldn't stand having to deal with all the fucking flood of Indians on the Bus and TrainsLucky you, In the UK a lot of the bad drivers are Indians.
>>538117994No amount of civic encouragement is going to convince me to ride a fucking bike 25 miles to get to work. Nor will I tolerate using public transportation with the absolute dregs of the society you keep hostile and belligerent with a lifetime of propaganda designed to paint me as an acceptable target for violence.
