Elite theory, the idea that a specific epistemic group of individuals defines societal discourse frames, requires that a super majority of the population trusts or is coerced by the "elite". These days one doesn't even get a qualified majority of the population that knows who those pretend elites are. If don't know or care what a pretend "elite" has to say I cannot be coerced nor trust. They are all nobodies.So quit the crap trying to advertise nobodies. Its a waste of time and resources
>>538267489they're the opposite of elitesthey built their resources on pathosimagine a bum covered in shit begging for charity and mercybut they're really millionaires and they think they're smarter than you because their pathetic display compels you to help themthat's the "elites"
>>538267489>If don't know or care what a pretend "elite" has to say I cannot be coerced nor trust. They are all nobodies.wrong since the elite have resources to fund and create sources which society does trust. You don't need to know who they are, you just need to receive the correct messages which come from them. The mainstream medias are not coming from a market place of ideas, they are coming from heavily funded backers.
>>538270067Yes. Wealth without believable trust or ability for effective coercion is just a target on a back
>>538270200A backer that eats loses non stop. The reach of 20th century oligopolistic broadcast propaganda is under 10% in the culturally relevant demographic between 18 and 30. In the active population between 30-45 they are lucky if they reach 50%. And the 45+ demographic is irrelevant
>>538270676Yes the msm is no longer the sole delivery mechanism, but if you go on x social media you will find a mixture of influencers, and many of them have been boosted by elite created and directed social networks. It is a little more complicated to do it, but it still works. There have by this point been many scandals showing that popular social media personalities are being paid by political institutions. You might be less susceptible personally, but we haven't escaped the fundamental system of goy programming.
>>538270933>B-but what about 2010s platforms I mostly have the retard missing link media sources on mute. My timeline is entirely cat images. And the younger gens completely abandoned the public internet for hyper specific closed niche channels The "elite" of yesteryear are not even reaching the target close
>>538270676While this is true, there has been no headway at all made into the education and more importantly the university system. All these institutions are remarkably immune to "based" populist pressure
>>538267489EPSTEIN CLASS IS AFRAID
>>538271432>Education, marxist templesThey are dying. You are stuck in the 00s and 10s. Younger GenZ and older GenA are not falling as much for the "education" bullshit like millennials and older genZ did The pseudo elite of yesteryear lost 2 generations and counting
>>538267489>oy vey we don't exist>keep paying interest and rent to non-existent beings, goy!
>>538271399But those people have no public influence themselves, and are just dead nodes.
Explain it to me as if i was 26 yo seba from łodź, bałuty
>>538267489The new elite is either and influencer or underground. The new elite is a counter-elite because the old elite failed them. The new elite creates spaces of freedom, security and prosperity despite hostile environments. The new elite creates new ideas and brings the truth to the surface despite censorship attempts.
>>538271490No clue where you're getting your hopium, but either way you don't "based" yourself out of a worldview, you need an alternative and there is none.
>>538271495Nobody forces you to fill out and send in an income statement. Only you are forcing yourself to comply with unenforceable policies
>>538271519That's what epistemic anarchy is, noise pure informational entropy, nobody has macro scale influence >>538271522>Influencer Lmfao you are stuck in the 00s and 10s
>>538271561>unenforceable policiesYou literally go to jail for tax fraud.
>>538271661Tax fraud implies you cheated on the form, not sending anything is evasion in the pure sense. I haven't made an income statement in 20 years, I haven't paid social security for 6. The state is no longer able to reliably enforce paper lawYou have only yourself to blame to have yourself be coerced into compliance
Watch Gundam Seed Destiny.Logos is real anons, and so is blue cosmos (Globohomo ISIS)
>>538267489sounds like you need another booster
>>538273678No its not.>>538273736Mohamed, don't be a retard, tell us more about the jew
anti-psychotic drugs are punitive psychiatry ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>>>538273960
>>538270933Youre right that they have new avenues of manipulation, but the OP is right in that their power is waning.If you compare the mastery they had over the boomers/GenX, theres no way its close today.
>>538267489Its' just the Capitalist class. The terms "Elite" "Globalists" etc are only used by Right Wingers who have never read Marx and have no intellectual explanation for the world they live in.
>>538274420>Protest >Being a boomer marching on a street being accompanied by the political party mercenaries Go back to the 60s boomer. The quite quitting and defection as the decentralized individualized leaderless organizationless un-categorizable violence is far more effective at undermining state power than boomer tactics. Boomer tactics were able to be hijacked and integrated for continuation of power, millennial and zoomer tactics are leading to failed state that can't be hijacked or countered
>>538274641The word capitalism doesn't exist outside of marxist religious dogma. You just identified yourself retarded 20th century marxist clown
>>538267489Ignorance is bliss. No one knows the names on the AIPAC donor roles, yet they influence politics as an organized minority, more so than the unorganized masses.
>>538274641If capitalists rule the world why are you still allowed to talk about communism then?
>>538267489Total kike death is necessary.
>>538267489- "the elite" (your middleclass) is dead- the epstein-class killed them.
Call them Ashkenmamzers. >>538274752
>>538274848Its not ignorance, its epistemic hygiene deleting irrelevant narratives and sales pitches out of ones perception
>>538274909Go back to the street you retarded marxist clown and screech for cannibalism, go eat a "rich" nobody stops you
>>538274920> call them Ashkenmamzersi call them traitor fifth-column zionists
>>538274930No one is immune to propaganda. Not even the experts. If you were really out of the game as you claim, you wouldn’t be here.
>>538267489This may not be a true quote, but it's definitely true
>>538274968Show flag Achmed and tell us more about the jew you retarded Islamo leftshit
>>538275016Propaganda that doesn't reaches a target does not exist. End of story
>>538275019>flag Achmed and tell us more about the jew you retarded Islamo leftshitjewposting:- defend israel- call people nigger, jeet, zutt, chinkcel, tranny (when israel is attacked)- occasional bait-jeetpost (cos kikes think standing next to brown-threads makes them look whiter)
>>538275043In addition, propaganda that is identified as propaganda has not the intended effects, often the exact opposite on top of delegitimating the speaker and the messaging
>>538275017>Global warming/climate change>Mass immigration >Digital id>CBDC
>>538274968>>538274997Zionism is based on the flawed notion of Ashkenazi Jewish heritage from Hebrews which is false. They are descended from Babylonian Men & Roman Women who have since married within their own families and mongrelised.
>>538275136Like Achmed and his retarded band of 20th century islamo leftshits, they are the best counter propaganda for their own propaganda
>>538275174Tell us more about the jew you retarded Islamo leftshit
>>538275192Lel seethe Ashkenmamzer.
>>538275174>Zionism I stopped reading from there:Fuck israel, get them out of our governments.I believe your brands are: JewishGreens, CFI, LFI, UKLFI
>>538275223Marxist, you already delegitimated yourself and your messaging coming into a thread and mindlessly screeching the song of your people
>>538271555the alternative is racism and antisemitism and it’s the new ethos of the dissident youth. i played golf last week and got paired up with some gen-alpha kids and they were talking shit about jews and jeets and niggers for 4 hours straight. it just takes one spark to ignite that fire
>>538275299You just delegitimated your entire messaging by screeching the over inflated shit terminology of your retarded Islamo leftshit people
>>538275257All Ashkenmamzer controlled fronts for Satan's Inbred Mongrels.
>>538275043It does exist. And millions of dollars goes into crafting it. Being on this site exposes us to it. The only way to be free from it is to go live in the woods. Even individuals spread propaganda like a virus, so just conversing with others can expose you to it. I agree that it’s getting less effective despite more and more money being pumped into it. But it’s out there.
Its like you idiots have not learned the lesson of left liberal failures screeching mindlessly "nazi" at everything and having had the absolute opposite effect of intended, completely blunting the meaning of their propaganda terminology.So please by all means keep screeching and blunting your own weapons
>>538275444Billions. Billions that are at best wasted for no effect and at worse generate the exact opposite of intended. Behavioralism in a decentralized epistimic environment is even more incompetent charlatanerie than in an oligopolistic environment. It does not just not generate consensus it actively undermines the generation of consensus
>>538275192> Tell us more about the jew you retarded Islamo leftshitI know they wear western flags to make themselves look whiter.
>>538267489Australians still have it too easy. A nationwide annual property tax should be introduced.For any property valued over $1,000,000, owners should pay 10% of the property’s value to the government every year. This should apply regardless of whether the property is owned outright or mortgaged.Properties valued under $1,000,000 should incur a 7% annual property tax.After all, we live in a society. If Australia is committed to endless population growth, mass migration, multicultural expansion, and the social programs required to support that vision, then the cost should be imposed directly on the people who benefited most from the existing property system.The revenue could fund housing, resettlement, diversity programs, LGBTQ initiatives, women’s equity projects, and every other institution that has been promoted for decades as necessary for national progress.Australia can finally become the society its media, political class, and activist institutions have spent years demanding: diverse, equitable, expensive, and impossible to opt out of.
>>538267489What you call the "elites" I consider parasitic cancers that need to be cleansed from the face of the earth.
>>538267489Glowing
>>538275564Australia, good example.Has a social media ban for minors in force for 7 months, 98% of all minors still on social media. Platforms don't cooperate, ISPs don't cooperate, population doesn't cooperate. It shows in the most direct fashion an instant of state failure and failure of propaganda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forumelites still keep meeting behind closed doors and scheming. not sure what you mean
>>538276208wrong link. meant to post this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_(organization)
>>538276243>>538276208Did you just unironically posted a link to a platform that not even boomer trust? You are so helplessly stuck in the 00s and 10s, you literally datapoisoned your own feedback loops for over a decade.You are a text book example of how institutional path dependency and perverted incentive structures are responsible for the total failure of the modern state
>>5382746411930 called, they want their philosophy back
>>538271737Crimelord thinks his teaching makes good countries. They don't. Every country you occupy is a crime infested shithole.You are wrong and the government is right.Cope and seethe pig.
>>538267489are you not ruled by the EU and your institutions? are they not aligned on most issues? last I checked, yes
>>538267489Austrians are the most cucked posters on pol
>>538276861Ahahahahahahahahahaha The "government" is currently just the weakest most handicapped crime syndicate in town
>>538267489>stop exposing jews! there are no jews!0/10
>>538276926Paper laws with no ability of materially as reliably enforcing them could as well not exist. Formal power is worthless if the informal structures undermining and evading them are stronger
>>538277050last I checked nobody is undermining the neoliberal order anywhere in Europe
>>538267489elites = someone who eats at a restaurant
>>538277219Where did you look? Media? Propaganda with no reach? Congratulations on falling for something only the most retarded sheep fall for. What matters is not the macro larp that is ignored, what matters is the transmission on the ground on the micro scale. It doesn't arrive
>>538275299No that's not an alternative, that's just a rejection of the current stuff and the enemy's frame. It proves my point actually
>>538277219They really hate Elon since he brought twitter.
>>538277717That's just pseudo elite of yesteryear cannibalizing each other.
Our elites are just institutional managers with a lot of money. It’s the Rothschild banking cartel and their network of NGOs, bought and paid for politicians, and the intelligence agencies.
>>538277773Who talks about politicians. Your GenX boogieman is as much not getting its messaging to ground as anybody else. All they do is having giant targets on their back with the material security infrastructure only being able to document them being fragged and somebody scratching the corpse off the floor after it happened
>>538277768Elon is part of the economic (technocratic) elite, this includes zuckerberg bezos etcPeople like larry fink, soros, rothschild, bankers etc are the financial elite (money printers) and have the most power.Politicians, institutions, media are social elites and for the most part do the bidding for the financial eliteAn extra bonus elite is the military industrial complex which gains more wealth when the financial elite want to procure hard assets (oil) with their fake money
>>538278864There are no elites anymore. That you still consider those elites and give their narratives weight places you either in the 10% retards or shows that you are an irrelevant geezer
>>538276359eh? i can use any other site for description if dialog group, point stands. you are trolling or drunk
>>538279261The main point of the OP is, that these organization have no reach onto the ground. They practically don't exist, its a circle jerk with no material effects on the ground. It doesn't matter what "source" you take, it doesn't change that the individuals and organizations of yesteryears pseudo elite have no influence on perception and no influence on behavior
That's just what you guys and glowies call them. Elites are just rich people with far too much power, money and have no idea what to do with it all as they haven't lived a normal life for some time. That is why the plan is to replace you all with robots and depopulate the world for more control.
>>538267489They hide behind influencers nowadays. Who do you think is funding billions of dollars into social media ads and influencers? Fuck influencers
>>538270200Yes, the elite fund all the influencers who post the same stupid bullshit. Influencers have replaced TV and celebrities. They're the new celebrities.
>>538270933Yes influencers are the new media, and they're all being funded by the actual elites. That's why influencers are going to HELL!!!!
>>538279503Fucking pleb. You equal elite with monies. You really think somebody is dumping 10000s of hours into amassing capital and relationships to eat at a restaurant or go on holiday in the south Pacific, nigger you can do that with way less investment.These pseudo elite of yesteryear invested countless capital and hours into their grift for influence and shaping perception, and they all lost, total completely loss of decades of investment >>538279503Retard
>nooo rich people and capitalism is badEat shit and die, commie bitch, you will always stay a poor slave and you will die as a poor slave.
>>538271490Nowadays influencers are how they promote their agendas.
>>538279598>Some nobody getting 100,000 impression of which 90% are viewbotted to scam advertisers are the "new" elite You are even more retarded than the bong
>>538271519They have MONEY which they PAY to INFLUENCERS. The actual wealthy class prefer to stay hidden. They don't need to expose themselves
>>538279851>Monies monies moniesFuck off pleb
>>538279725Germany poached your top guy and you have been irrelevant. You cannot even keep your own elites. Elite is one of the many names for them and other people have different names. It's mostly enough people who can do shit. Outside of Hitler who from Austria has made it big. Pipe down little man.
>>538279966What?You are truly a retard. Go make some>Why does everyone likes communism Thread and get 2 replies
>>538280070I know more about these "elites" you talk about than you. I have met with people you would probably call elite. It's just a term, that changes depending who you are talking to. And yes, it is money because money is power. If I had enough money I could get you, a random person on the internet shot to death. But, I am not powerful enough and no not have enough money. Get it now?
>>538279032I don't think you understood a single thing I wrote>you are an irrelevant geezerI very much like posting anonymously yes.
>>538280224There are non. An epistemic group of circle jerkers that are not able to reach the relevant demographic population due to being ignored and the field being saturated with noise could as well not exist>>538280246I did not read it. Somebody summoning fucking 1930s socialism in 2026 is in my book clinically retarded
>>538279388checked and finally you explained your thought well. i hope you are right
tryna subdue the goyim huh
>>538281661I know I am right. Taking indirect data sources that measure things like trust, reach, interaction ratios, platform degrowth, growth of closed hyper specific niche channels, narrative reproduction... its clear as dayIf one relies on auto-datapoisoned data, like missing link media, viewbotted ads, public subsidized account book growth, well, the world looks like the pseudo elite are still being the top dog
>>538281872Tell us more about the jew moohamhead
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>>538267489Glowie, you made it too obvious.
>>538284401The term is glow nigger and how is pointing out that the masters of glow niggers are totally powerless being a glow nigger? Shill go make another pro Nato thread or larp as Russian shill
>>538270933>many of them have been boosted by elite created and directed social networks.Yep. Pic related.
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>>538284514And still, they have to viewbot over 90%, fake interaction with llms and are not even able anymore to scam fucking twitch advertisersThat's another confirmation of the dead of the so called "elite"
>>538267489There never was an elite at least the way you mean. Anyone who gets rich is mostly just lucky the works of art and the works of philosophy or the works of great innovation are hardly ever and almost never made by people who aren't hungry. The rich eventually move to just gaining from capital movement and that means they don't do anything useful it's why you shouldn't allow anyone to have too much money because they get drunk on the power and think that more money makes them more important regardless of it's costs to the people, the nation or the environment.Most rich people are educated but incredibly stupid, prime example being Musk or Thiel who are larping retards.
I think what anons in this thread are missing is the medium of these psy ops and propaganda. It's clear that the Internet and social media as a whole is run by AI algorithms using biometric data and surveillance to deliver media tuned to your demographic. So, by extension almost every influencer/content creator/eceleb/grifter you see is only allowed to be on your screen because they're either controlled op or just goyslop.
>>538284779Compartmentalization is actively undermining elite theory effects
>>538284831I know the theory says>Givide and gonguerThat's not helping to generate a stabile consensus environment in which elite narratives, perception shaping and behavioral steering can be applied. It just furthers anarchy and destabilization
>>538270200>wrong since the elite have resources to fund and create sources which society does trust.not anymore they don't. you literally print money and no one trusts you.
>>538284583>And still, they have to viewbot over 90%, fake interaction with llms and are not even able anymore to scam fucking twitch advertisersIt's all artificially forced. In jewish propaganda, there is no such thing as fair media. Places where ideas fairly compete always become right-wing.
>>538284831>>538285012My belief is that the elites are dialing up the distractions and political theater on purpose because they know that something out of their hands is coming.
>>538285178Its not about fairness, its about nobody being able to be fooled by it into consensus as it worked with boomer and GenX in the monolithic passive 20th century broadcast propaganda environment
>>538285271And its on ignore. The narratives die instantly. Its a cost factor. Trying to deploy narratives, even if just for distraction in a decentralized anarchic epistemic environment is costly. The fail files meme ad campaign cost north of 150 M, it had no effect, some trolls with no costs but a post could disrupt it.Its a war that the defender cannot win. The attack is too cheap
The barrage of failed distraction and ad campaigns is done from a position of weakness, at an extreme cost with demonstrately no gain in territory, easily jiujitsued by any troll with some time on its hand at practically no cost
The target demographic just has to click ignore. One cannot win a 4th gen war against an opponent and target that ignores you
The best part about the distraction barrage is it just furthers the decline of the elite theory assumptions. In some way its self defeating, adding more noise to the noise. Literally suicide
