4th Industrial Revolution is not a meme. It is the final class war and the billionaires are winning. Throughout all of human history the working class only had one piece of leverage. The elites needed our labor to build their factories, fight their wars, and harvest their food. If they pushed us too hard, we could strike or revolt.Silicon Valley is trying to solve the problem of human leverage permanently. That is what Artificial General Intelligence and humanoid robotics are actually for. Musk and Thiel are rushing to build automated systems that will completely replace human physical and cognitive labor. Once the Optimus robots and AGI systems are online, the billionaire class will not need you anymore. You will be obsolete carbon. When the jobs disappear, you will be forced to accept their Universal Basic Income. And that UBI will be tied directly to your biometric WeChat X app. You will own nothing, you will eat synthetic lab meat, and you will obey the algorithm. This is Techno Feudalism and Elon is the architect.
>>538404316>When the jobs disappear, you will be forced to accept their Universal Basic IncomeWhat for, it's easier and cheaper to simply liquidate us, which is exactly what they always wanted to do.
>>538404316tl;dr but nice flag anonkeep up the posting
We need nationalization proscriptions.
I will have sex with the robots
>>538404435UBI is not about keeping you alive because they care about you. UBI is the transition mechanism. It is digital fentanyl. Before they can liquidate the obsolete carbon, they must totally pacify the population. That is the entire purpose of the 4th Industrial Revolution. They will automate the jobs away and offer you a lifeline. The UBI will be tied directly to your X app digital ID. To get your digital food credits, you will have to hand over your guns, accept the biometric tracking, and move into a smart city pod. They will flood the zone with legal weed, infinite algorithmic porn, and hyper realistic VR. They are building a digital hospice for the human race.Once you are entirely dependent on their digital ration system, the soft liquidation begins. They do not need to put you in a camp. They just turn off your digital wallet. They feed you synthetic lab slop that destroys your fertility. The birth rates will flatline. The population will quietly sterilize and sedate itself to death in front of screens. It is a controlled demolition of the working class. UBI is just the leash they use to walk you into the slaughterhouse without you putting up a fight.
>>538404316I'm honestly not concerned at all, automation and robotics will first and foremost make low IQ third worlders disposable.
>>538404707UBI is like a bribe.>please don't rebel against us!>here's some pocket money for you!
>>538404707Fuck you, shill. Stop making it sound good. Wait, is it THAT good?
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>>538404316>Throughout all of human history the working class only had one piece of leverage.Remind me again, what was the leverage against the working class? Why did the working class bother working for their overlords in the first place? Why not just own your own land, grow your own food, and live independently of the overlords?
no refunds
>>538404316TLDR not eatting the bugs faggot
They will not stop until they have removed all agency from your life and you rent everything, even access to the simplest of information and the air you breathe. The time to stand up is now, while we are able to.
In 2013, scientists created the Fujitsu super computer which could simulate 1% of 1 second of the human brain using 85,000 microprocessors and 45 minutes of computing time. Due to the exponential growth of computational power, computers will be able to fully simulate real time human brain processing in 2060 (possibly earlier).The wealthy and powerful will own the AIs, machines, factories, etc. and they will be served by powerful AIs. They will transfer their minds to powerful computer constructs and live as cyber beings.Those can not afford mind transference will see their job opportunities shrink. It wont matter what race you, what religion you believe in, what values you possesses, etc. All biological humans will work, shoulder-to-shoulder in the garbage, mud, and sweat shops making a slim living.The cyber beings, no longer having biological needs, but still requiring wealth and power in order to survive and thrive among the other cyber beings will send out vast machines and legions of powerful military drones to scrape up all biological mass on Earth and burn it in massive power facilities as additional energy. In the vast emptiness of the land they will pave over the Earth and build infrastructure, power plants, factories, facilities, etc.The air and water will become toxic and the fertile land will be paved over to nothingness. The biological humans will die in this environment.If you are not now or expect to become a multimillionaire in the near future then you, and any children you have or hope to have, are already dead.
>>538406040>Why not just own your own land, grow your own food, and live independently of the overlords?Especially if there is an open source AI/robot that is extremely cheap and simple to reproduce.What if literally anyone could pick up a copy of the instruction/construction manual, grab a few pieces of scrap material, and construct a robot that suits their needs.You people all seem to be afraid of the post-currency future that silicon valley is pushing so hard for, but it could very very easily backfire for them spectacularly.Everyone thinks without work there will be no money and they'll be 100% dependent on their overlords for everything, but if you can own your own robots, just as they do, then in a post-currency world you would be just as rich as Elon Musk. The downside to this is once the overlord class realizes this, they'll seek to destroy every robot not under their control, thus beginning the great robot war, which will quickly devolve into robot V human war that leads to man kinds extinction. When I think about that I think maybe it's better off nobody's created this super cheap and easy to build open source robot. Is this wrong?
>>538404707what good is money if everyone has it? if the goal is to kill everyone except the billionaires, then they're not even billionaires anymore. what do they even do with all their money when they have an infinite supply of money and energy? the robots don't need payment of any kind. i guess wealth would be judged in terms of how many robots you have? also, they would be killing off their own families without having a broad supply of exceptional people to potentially marry in to their families.
>>538404316It would simply cause people to live like the Amish. Smaller communities and a simpler life style. For me, it couldn’t come soon enough.
UBI is going to be based. Sitting at home all day getting high and having virtual reality sex will be awesome. Musk and Thiel are saints. Opposing them is boomer coded.
>>538408046think about what happened to the free and open source 3d printer that can be 3d printed
>>538404316there is no leverage for goyim anymore. youre all marked for removal.
>>538404316we are where we needed to be. hashem just showed himself to everyone.from this point it will be a world for jewish people.
>>538408216smaller communities being divided, overwhelmed, and systematically culled by drones that have yet to even be conceived, you meanFor me, it couldn't come soon enough.
yeah we know and it's pretty fucking dystopic how everything is more automated than ever before but unlike with previous tech revolutions, nothing is actually getting more affordable to everyone. everything is actually getting both more low quality but more expensive too and it's not like when a car or dish washer was invented where people can then move on to do other jobs. there's a saturation limit to podcasters and onlyfans stars even if the limit is a bit dynamic but there's always only so many people who can get a living out of that kind of work. people really need to realize that they genuinely want to kill us but it's pretty hard to get it into people's heads who just naturally want to be left alone and live okay life
and the two options in most countries are governments which say common people are to blame because they don't work hard enough and this is why everything sucks now, or the other side of the coin which promises every unhappy or degenerate person that they will get unlimited free shit
>>538408147>also, they would be killing off their own families without having a broad supply of exceptional people to potentially marry in to their families.https://youtube.com/shorts/LRknH2joJs0?is=EGxMaYceWllq6yYX
>>538408375>free and open source 3d printer that can be 3d printedFunny thing about that, it could never be fully 3d printed. But their very existence inspired tons of Chinese knockoffs and drove down the price of all 3d printers to about as low as they could afford. Even if it was never truly fully 3d printable, they forced all other competitors to make printers cheap enough for everyone to be able to afford. Then once everyone who was interested had a 3d printer, people soon realized through 1st hand experience that constructing stuff with cheap plastic, at the end of the day is still cheap plastic, and so nobody cares about 3d printers anymore. Sorry, what was your point again?
>>538404316digital company scrip
>>538404316>needed our laborWhat do you do for work?>Musk and Thiel are rushing to build automated systems that will completely replace human physical and cognitive labor.How many more weeks before all that happens?>Once the Optimus robots and AGI systems are online, the billionaire classYou don't need to be a "billionaire class" to buy some equity into whichever company you believe is going to be building the infinite-free-shit-bots.>When the jobs disappear,What do you do for work now and how long do you suppose you have before a chatbot replaces you?
>>538404316It's worse than that. We've gotten so desperate we've commodified thought. The entire thing has to collapse.
universal basic income is a lie. At some point we're going to have to band together and [redacted] these parasites.
>>538404316WE SIMPLY REVOLT AND KILL THEM
>>538404316BESIDES, WHO ARE THEY GOING TO SELL THIER GARBAGE TO?
>>538409848They have robot dogs with machineguns mounted on their back. Field tested in Ukraine. It's over anon.
>>538410047WE JUST BLOW UP THE ENERGY PLANTS. EZ PZ
>>538410274Sure anon, so you got your garden planted? The deer meat smoked? They got generators with weeks if not months of fuel. They have been planning this for decades. I not shilling for the pedo demons, just we have dropped the ball.
>>538409687>You don't need to be a "billionaire class" to buy some equity into whichever company you believe is going to be building the infinite-free-shit-bots.why do you think countries are introducing wealth taxes based on just having something, not even making profit or selling anything? they need a new goyim tax because people are desperately trying to invest and save money. won't affect any piss poor person obviously, just some hard-working or lucky goy
>>538410447I'M GOING TO EAT THEIR FLESH WITH POTATOES IF THAT EVER HAPPENS
>>538404316>Once the Optimus robots and AGI systems are online, the billionaire class will not need you anymore. You will be obsolete carbon.Let me know when those retards succeed.
>>538404316Pretty much.They won't succeed, but they'll make human life intolerably hellish before they fail.
>>538404316i don't care, memeflaggot
>>538404316YET TESLA'S BAGHOLDERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE PROMISED FULLY AUTOMATED CARS LOL
>>538404316Or we could just take everything since we've been paying for everything they own through inflation anyway. It's not even stealing, it's just reclaiming stolen property, especially with AI being a glorified compression algorithm none of use have been compensated for, even though they used all of our data.
>>538404316Nonsense. Ai is the great equalizer between the classes. All humans will rely on ai as intellectual advisors and the differences will collapse. They want to control ai now the same way as they wanted to control religion, literacy, the printing press, firearms, it all ends the same way
>>538404316Eh, for someone like Musk paying workforce for maintaining automation is a small difference. Small variations in the stock market probably make more difference to him. When you get THAT rich I humanity becomes more important again, or ideals in general do. There is only so much you can do with your money. He couldnt spend it all on himself if he tried. >t. not musk
>>538404316we'd be better off outlawing unions.
From Gemini -- It’s a classic, distilled dose of /pol/—taking very real, contemporary anxieties about automation and hyper-charging them into a sci-fi techno-thriller plot.If we strip away the extreme "matrix slop/liquidation" rhetoric, the thread actually touches on some of the core philosophical and economic debates happening in the tech world today. Here is a breakdown of what's grounded in reality versus what belongs in a dystopian novel:1. The Core Truth: The Shift in Human LeverageThe OP's point about history is economically sound. Historically, labor was the ultimate leverage. The labor movement, strikes, and revolutions only worked because elite capital needed human hands to generate wealth. If a factory can run entirely on software and hardware owned by a tiny group of people, the fundamental social contract of the last few centuries faces a massive strain.2. The Economic Paradox (Where the Doom Fiction Breakers)The user who asked, "Who are they going to sell their garbage to?" hit the nail on the head. Capitalism requires a velocity of money—producers need consumers. If a billionaire class completely automates the workforce and starves out the population, their businesses collapse because there is no market. A world of five billionaires trading robot parts with each other isn't an economy; it's just a closed loop. This is why many tech leaders actually advocate for UBI—not out of pure malice or pure altruism, but to keep the consumer engine alive. ....
>>5384128353. AI: The Gatekeeper vs. The EqualizerThe thread splits perfectly on the two potential futures of AI: The Centralized Nightmare: A few mega-corporations control the most powerful, closed-source models and the physical robotics, essentially turning them into digital gatekeepers of human survival. The Open-Source Equalizer: The user pointing out 3D printers and open-source tech makes a great counter-argument. If AGI and robotics designs become open-source, it could dramatically decentralize power. It allows individuals or small communities to achieve total self-sufficiency (growing food, building housing, generating power) without relying on massive corporate supply chains.The Bottom LineThe thread reflects a deep, collective anxiety about losing agency in a world moving blindingly fast. While the elite aren't likely building drone armies to harvest biological mass for fuel, the question of who owns the code and who owns the robots will genuinely dictate the balance of power in the coming decades.Are we moving toward a centralized techno-feudalism, or an open-source era of unprecedented individual autonomy? Which side of that coin do you think we're leaning closer to right now?
>>538412868+ >A world of five billionaires trading robot parts with each other isn't an economy; it's just a closed loop. This is why many tech leaders actually advocate for UBI—not out of pure malice or pure altruism, but to keep the consumer engine alive.When they can grow their own food, have their own farm, they don't need to sell a whole lot of products. They already have massive wealth. They dont need rest of the poor humans anymore.Gemini ---That is the ultimate counter-argument, and it highlights the darkest pivot point of the whole debate: What happens when the elite no longer need a consumer market because they are entirely self-sufficient?If a small group of people owns the automated farms, the automated factories, the automated energy grids, and the automated security forces, the traditional rules of capitalism completely break down.When you look at it through that lens, the situation shifts from an economic problem to a resource problem.1. The Post-Scarcity Safe Zone (For Them)In this scenario, wealth is no longer measured in digital fiat currency or stock prices, because those things only matter in a system of exchange with other humans. Instead, wealth reverts to its purest historical forms: Land and Resource Ownership: Arable land, fresh water, and mineral rights. Compute and Energy: Massive server farms and the solar/nuclear grids required to power them. Physical Automation: The actual robots that maintain, repair, and defend the infrastructure....
>>538412901If a handful of elites control all three, they have a self-perpetuating, closed-loop civilization. They don't need to sell widgets to the masses because their robots provide everything they could ever want or need.2. The Rest of the World Becomes an "Externality"This is where the anxiety in that 4chan thread becomes structurally logical. If the working class is no longer needed as labor, and no longer needed as consumers, they become what economists call an "externality"—or worse, a liability.From the perspective of a hyper-insulated elite, billions of redundant humans represent: Resource Depletion: They consume the water, land, and air that could otherwise be preserved or utilized by the automated system. Security Risks: Even without economic leverage, billions of starving, desperate people pose a permanent threat to the perimeter walls of the automated estates.3. The Choke Point: Who Owns the Transition?This brings us back to the fork in the road: centralization versus decentralization. The nightmare scenario you're describing only works if the technology remains strictly proprietary, heavily guarded, and deeply centralized. If the tech to build a self-sufficient, automated homestead is tightly gatekept by corporate IP laws and military-grade manufacturing, then society fractures into the "haves" and the "permanently locked out."However, if the tools of automation—the software blueprints, the open-source AI models, the local manufacturing techniques—leak out and become democratized before the drawbridge is fully raised, then the average person can build their own closed-loop survival system, too.It becomes a race against time. Are the elites going to achieve total automated self-sufficiency and pull up the ladder first, or will the democratization of technology allow the rest of humanity to build its own safety nets?/
>>538404709are you stupid? they live in europe and the usa, so their most interest to purge the area around them. 3-world countries would be organ-whores-farms, white countries would be purged first
>>538412835>>538412868>>538412901>>538412921TL;DR -- Billionaires will do everything OP said. -- Whole world will become communist (will have to out of necessity for survival) and kill those billionaires and democratize the technology. This is inevitable.
>>538404316Take off your memeflag faggot >>538404516You too>>538406256And you as well Stupid fucking niggers
