can wumaos please explain to me like im 5, why its a good thing that housing prices are falling in china?inb4>looool so its bad if houses are cheap, jew??? yeah the jew doesnt want anyone to own their homesthe issue is that the chinese already DO own their homes. 90% of china owns property. its their number 1 investment, its where all chinamen park their money.so house prices falling means that all of china is LOSING the money theyve already invested. theyre not getting >le free moneyin the form of cheaper homes. theyre LOSING money because they already OWN homes, which are losing value. can someone please explain this one to me? how exactly is china winning if all the chinese are losing money. how is this a win for china. id love to hear psychotic impotent chink kvetching regarding how china is number one because of this
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>>538623244De young goyim can buy things, dats like, bad goy! Remember the 3 pillars of anglocentric divine western rule1. The holy talmud2. The GDP3. Infinite black cocks to destroy the youth and ensure boomers and their kike masters are always at the top
>>538623244Housing is one of the reason birth rates are down. Have to put off making a family until you can afford a home, and by then you are older and can’t have as many kids.
>>538623349chink with VPN didnt even read the posts and just posts the very first part of his script>the jews dont want goyim to own stuff hehe, thats why they hate china!
>>538623493another chink that didnt even read the post. hilarious how there are bots just scanning the catalogue for certain keywords and shitting out scripted responses
>>538623520>house remains the same>omg it went lower on da equity charts, it's annudda shoah, that other 10% can afford houses now
Pipkin Pippa says TRANS RIGHTS!
>>538623624>house remains the same>except its worth less now>so basically 1 billion chinks had several thousand dollars stolen from them , they invested money into an asset which depreciated so they LOST money>this is good though because magically this will get broke dregs of society to suddenly invest in housing lmao
>>538623553>>538623520I wanna sympathise with you op but you used a Reddit tranny for picrel
>>538623799pippa isnt a tranny though??? what
>>538623865I know but the fans are exclusively fags, they disgust me on a visceral level for what they stand for.
>>538623244>can wumaos please explain to me like im 5, why its a good thing that housing prices are falling in china?Houses are for ______ __ not for ___________>Chinese have higher ownership rates right now, five years after this policy went into effect, so how can it be a good thing that Chinese will continue to be homeowners at higher rates?I'm glad you asked. You see, houses are for ______ __, not for ___________.>theyre LOSING money because they already OWN homesHouses are not a form of money. You see, they're for ______ __. However, they are not for __________.>>538623743>house is worth less now.Houses derive their value from their intended usage. Do you know what houses are for, OP? Houses do not derive their value from perceived future trade value, also called ___________.
>>538623244>theyre LOSING money because they already OWN homes, which are losing valuethat's a retarded take>theyre LOSING moneythey already spent that money, idiot>homes, which are losing valueso? I value my time at £1T per second, and I'm yet to figure out whom to invoice
Everything Chinsects say is a state approved lie. So I stopped listening to them.
Housing should never have been allowed to be an object of speculation.
>>538623244How are you losing money if you only own one home? >move house>get less for your own home>pay less for your new home>upgrading is cheaper
>>538624013Oh no, double digit yankee not listening.What a tragic loss.
>>538623982>I don't know how the economy works therefore I'm smarter than you
>>538624075>muh economy
>>538623957>houses are not an investmentim sorry, are you taking a moralistic stance now? like, are you conceding that its not economically good for chinks to have lost money they put in houses, but its morally good because theyre being punished for greed? is that the argument youre putting forth?its good because chinks deserve to be punished for putting their money in whats supposed to be a "human right"?just wanna make sure that im reading this correctly and that youre in favour of chinks getting their money taken away from them as a punishment
>>538623244maybe the housing market should learn how to drive
>>538623244Housing is for living not for investment.
finally a reason to post this
>>538624109Wrong reply btw
>>538624031refer to this post >>538624109>>538624061>upgrading is cheaperwhat happens when you "upgrade" your home? you sell the old one. which they will now do for less money than they originally put into their first home. i guess thats a good thing because chinks are losing money. i agree. thats a good thing. btw you need to leave japan, chang>>538624097>>muh economyLOL>t-the economy doesnt matter its a jewish invention!!! btw plz bow before le chinese economy
>>538623743Imagine if you applied this logic to everything. You paid $3000 for an 8088 IBM pc in the 80s, then computers got cheaper. So your investment was stolen from you? Should we have kept computers from ever getting cheaper or advancing to maintain value.
>>538623960>>538624031>>538624132chink insectoid wumaos spamming the same scriptrefer to this post >>538624109
>>538623244>“Houses are for living in, not for speculation”With one sentence Xi btfo’d kikes all across the world and they are still so butthurt that they pay armies of JIDF shills to try to convince people that normal families being able to purchase homes without having to pay jew landlords and banks a shelter tax for the rest of your life is somehow a tragedy
In China you don't own the houses or the land in the first place I don't know what you're talking about. It's a Communist country. You can only lease it.
>>538624236>be faggot>no deferred gratification, no impulse control>moneylender lends you money>spend your future self into a hole>rules change>NOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN BETAREENO BUT MUH VALUUEUEEEE>moneylender doesn't caredo something about it then faggot
>>538624221yeah>>538624255the difference is that things like cars or electronics naturally depreciate in value over time due to wear and tear or becoming obsolete.houses are considered an investment (even though chinks itt are screaming that they arent meant to be that) because theres no risk that in 2 years time apple will release House 2.0 with new features better windows, a nicer roof, etc. while your House 1.0 stops working. so yeah you cant apply this logic to everything.people put their life savings in houses and in china especially this is meant to be a multigenerational investment. except now if chang wants to sell the house he inherited, its worth less than it was bought for. his family LOST money, even though they expected to at least go even.
>>538624109No real German or English would ever, ever, ever complain about lower housing prices.You're a literal kike chatbot.
>>538624332insectoid running the same script as 4 other chinks ittrefer to this post >>538624109
>>538623244>pedo flag colors
>>538624476>ignores the post>kvetches about how china's number one competitors on the global stage>pretends he's german and not yellowjust focus on the JEWS guys. they have no presence in china but PLEASE focus on THEM. every criticism of china is invalid because JEWS exist
>>538624457>theres no risk that in 2 years time apple will release House 2.0 with new features better windows, a nicer roof, etc. while your House 1.0 stops working. so yeah you cant apply this logic to everything.people put their life savings in houses and in china especially this is meant to be a multigenerational investmentGood thing the house doesn't stop working then and your multigenerational investment pay off in the form of your descendents having a place to live.You're a jew kike shill chatbot faggot. If you're not you're lower than a sewer rat.
>>538624567Are you Indian or what exactly is your motivation here?
>>538624537yeah im sorry that thats what attracted your attention but this thread is about china. maybe you can discuss pedophilia with your friends on the sharty
>>538624626OP is scared what’s happening in China will happen to his property investments.
>>538624457Slaves were also an investment and when slavery ended people lost money. Houses as an investment is wrong, just like slavery was wrong. You are arguing that wrongs must be maintained forever if people would loose money otherwise.
>>538624626>youre jew youre indian youre jew youre indiani think its interesting how chinks instantly assume anyone critiquing them must be one of those two things. this is borderline psychosis, delusion.>>538624602>good thing the house doesnt stop workingexcept when you want to potentially sell it and move somewhere else and find that your family lost a part of the money it invested in it>all enemies of shina ale sewel lats!!!!!china's national dish
>>538623244Be Chinese government.Have state (read: oligarchic) capitalism.Make private investment basically impossible. Have one avenue for investment for the lay person: Real estate.Everyone and their mom starts buying property, for decades.Property in China runs out. Forced to build ghost cities for people to buy up and not live in.Even those properties run out. Chinese start buying property abroad, all in the service of establishing savings. Chinese government kills real estate loophole. Investment anywhere for smallfolk is now almost impossible. Everyone who has real estate now has to rapidly sell it off to recoup some of their money.Sudden glut of properties with no possible tenants, due to China's contracting birthrate.Massive supply dump + no demand = crash.
>>538624727so you ARE arguing that chinks deserve to lose their money. ok yeah i agree then. i agree with this moral argument. take all money from chinks, money is the root of all evil. i can hold it for them to make sure theyre not tempted by it
>>538623244If the value of the property is going down, so do the property taxes
The American left just gets really excited anytime there's an opportunity for low income "people" to move into nicer areas. They also get excited when people who have more than them lose money. Someone in a 150,000usd equivalent house who saw their value drop to 75,000 makes the leftist sitting in a shitty 1,000 a month us city shithole makes the leftist happy. They always say it's about equality but they're just jealous.
>>538623244There is a natural cycle to this if you allow it. Housing goes down, economy goes into depression, all the bullshit jobs disappear, leaving only men working. Economy recover, men who stayed working get very wealthy. Men working+cheap housing=baby boom population increases via the natural cycle. If you important a billion bamolons that keep wages low and increase the price of housing you fuck up that cycle. Decrease your populations IQ and your stuck in a semi permanent economic winter.
I think the top 2 most retarded shill operations running on /pol/ right now are the "only leftists hate mass surveillance" and "affordable housing is bad for the economy" ones.Who are these narratives supposed to work on and what do you even gain by convincing literal retards of retarded stuff?
>>538625037how about>having affordable food is actually bad for you goy>>538583911
>>538624836>spent somebody else's money on a property that didn't existtouching a hot stove>in a hot economy where homes were bid up by speculatorswith a greasy handI'm not saying anyone deserves to lose, but they sure as shit don't deserve to win
>>538623300>Pippa is 6/10 Cute.>Plus 8/10 personalityMakes her a solid 9. >Total Pippa Victory
>>538623244>DUDE THE FAKE AND GAY IMAGINARY VALUATION IS DROPPINGThis may blow your mind choam, but goods are actually SUPPOSED to get cheaper
>>538623743>Buy something>The valuation of thing gets cheaper, which literally has ZERO impact on you since you've already bought it and its value isn't derived from its monetary value. The value of an owned house comes from being able to live in it.>OY VEY YOU JUST STOLE FROM ME IT'S ANNUDAH SHOAH YOU OWE ME MONEYThis is how they actually think
>>538624495>buy a car to drive around and use>it depreciates in value >wtf why didn’t my investment make me rich?It is only in Weimerica that houses endlessly appreciate in value to make Jews and boomer landlords rich. The value of your house is meaningless if you plan on living in it and not selling it or speculating on it. Houses are for living in, kike. You are getting push back because you are defending landlords and banks at a time when 90% of young Americans can never hope to purchase a home of their own because of rampant speculation. Your kike wailing falls on deaf ears.
>>538623244No, they cant. Theyre going to cope and seeth any time you bring this to because its the only thing they possibly can do. Chinese people got absolutely screwed
>>538623743They would opt to rent, and invest in houses overseas.
>>538623349How can young people buy cheap houses if they lost their job building houses? Lmao.
>>538626271>It's a bad thing for investments to become more valuableWe have an 80% home owner rate for people over 30. If you don't own a home, it's because you're a loser. Not because the system is broken
>>538623244Everyone has a house In China and there Is no such thing as hunger because poverty was abolished, I know your yankee mind cant process that but you will eventualy do when China takes over In every aspect of your life
looool so its bad if houses are cheap, jew??? yeah the jew doesnt want anyone to own their homes>its their number 1 investmentInvest in gold instead, Retard Jew.
>>538623244>Amerimutt bugmen now own less and worse homes in worse cities than ever before>Amerimutt regime promises were broken exactly as everyone predicted>Chinese homeowners now own more and better homes in better cities than ever before>Chinas government polices did exactly what they where planned to be solving>but muh Amerimutt index ereased imaginary numbers from 99394 to 93458 or whatever>but muh Amerimutt state propaganda agency made up problems>but muh Amerimutt spamming the same shill thread 100 times every day>but muh Amerimutt replying 100 times to his own threads on VPNsCool VPN, MUTTDIF drone
>>538626582>MUTTNIGGERSTAN NUMBA ONEHow can Amerimutts "own" homes when they are all in debt and have to borrow from banks and lost their jobs to mexicans and pajeets. lmao get some better hasbara phrases MUTTDIF drone
>>538623244>>538623300>lust provoking image
Houses are for living, if you need a place to live, buy a house, if your goal is to speculate with them then based xi will fuck you without lube, its not hard to understand.
>noooo houses should just go up exponentially forever until no cunt can afford one I literally don't give a fuck if I lose money on my house I'm already mad that I got a good job and still had to burn a fuck load of that just to have a roof over my head. Your wealth being tied up in one little building is retarded and no shit completely unsustainable because people have to buy houses for them to have any value, it literally cannot go up forever unless wages match that inflation.
>>538628017We're just a very wealthy people. Only half of us work and the only people who don't own homes are drug addicts and the mentally ill. >>538628778Brainlet. This isn't about housing. It's about demand and employment.
>>538623244>in the form of cheaper homes. theyre LOSING money because they already OWN homes, which are losing value.No they don't, cheap houses are good for everyone, when you move you buy on the same market you were selling on.Unless you're some faggot rentseeking landlord, cheap houses just means nobody has to borrow big money from the banks, and money can stay on the market and productive instead of going to parasitic entities who contribute nothing but leech of peoples work, that is to say landlords and banks
>>538629276It's a good thing for houses to go up forever. It means the biggest purchase you ever make will be meaningful and give you financial security. Especially if most people can still afford it, even when half of us don't work.
>>538629383>This only hurts landlords Lol. Lmao
>>538623244Evergrande.>but that happened years ago.Exactly, now you start learning the jews game.>Defer the debt>never pay it back>die after stealing billions>put it into a trust>all ill gotten gains are protected>the levers, companies and means they used to gain it are now defunct and redundant, while people wonder what happened to them and their services>company fails, jews short it all the way down>cellar box, never close, never pay taxes on all the shortsThey never stop winning.But its ok, cos the turd world believes they can do the same thing!Except they dont have a worldwide organization with group meetings no one else is allowed to attend.
>>538629408There is no security in beeing forced to rent your "own" house from a bank.Idealy banks should be forbidden from lending money to anything but corporations, and houses would be completely freed of speculation.But that will never happen, so what should happen is that the state should enact a mortage bank, and extend mortages at 3% below REPO rates to the citizens.There's no reason the banks should be profiting of the most basic human right of them all. A roof over your head.
>>538629531Nigger the only time you sell a house is when you buy another. So this is not "wealth" at all. You are forced to buy on the same market as you're selling anyway.
>>538623244Housing prices should have never been high to begin with. If you want a long term investment buy gold or bonds, which the chinese can, hell China even just banned speculation on gold futures, so it'll be stable.
>>538629539There's security in not needing to work until you're 90
>>538629589You can borrow against it retarded. Lots of people do.
>>538629598>moving goal postsYour pensions is funded by taxation, not by some greedy retarded banker who made you pay 10x the amount you should had paid for your house, by "kindly extending a loan" to both you and anyone else bidding on it.Die in a ditch, kike
>>538629621And that's my whole point, then you're back to renting your house from the "kind" banking jew who "kindly" extended some credit to you.
>>538629664It's not moving goalposts if they were always directly related. You're trying to separate two things that can't be separate. Things you own will also have a value.
>>538623244I want my car to raise in value too, can you make that happen oh magical jew?
>>538629713You don't own a house do you?
>>538629751if you have to pay tax to keep something you don't own it
>>538623300Came here for solely this picture. pippa is an egregiously mid woman a fucking extra in some movie tier.
>>538629717And the banks should be banned from manipulating the values by "extending credit" out of money they do not have to "raise values" that do not exist.They are completely a parasitic entity that forces people to pay them rents through this system of "credit" (borrowing others money they do not even themselves have). They need to be ripped out of our economy and hurled back to the devil which spwaned them.Banks should fundamentaly not be allowed to lend money they do not have to others.This is the fundamental fault of the 20th and 21st century economy. And what we HAVE to deal with to return to a functioning world economy without a parasitic class of bankers stealing everything.
>>538629717>>538629870If the banks were limited to lending others only the liquid cash they have at hand on a given day. Housing would be far more affordable for almost every single person on the planet, as banks would be limited in how much money they could lend to others, and forced carfully select to extend loans only to corporations who can pay the most profitable rates.This would drastically reduce the prices of housing for everyone.
>>538629819By that logic no one has ever owned anything. >>538629870Lending money makes it easier, not harder to own a house. It does increase the price to some extent, but not as much as you're suggesting.
>>538630089What do banks even have to do with the relationship between wealth and real estate? You're the one moving goal posts.
>>538630089Besides it only makes sense that since I can't rent someone a car I do not have at hand, the banks should not be allowed to rent someone money they do not have.That is just counterfeiting.
>>538623244Pink rabbit girls are not real
>>538623300Kaminari mogs
>>538630184But bunks can't loan money they don't have. When they hold paper, that means they paid the entire price to the seller.
>>538623244You still get to live in the house even if it isn't worth a single bit of globohomo funny money. Deflation is good for everyone except speculative investors and rent seekers.
>>538623244Easy, they buy their houses in order to live in their houses, not to profit of off, but you're a jew and won't understand
>>538623300rollan
>>538630133>By that logic no one has ever owned anythingI own guns and gold. The only two things you can depend on in life.
>>538630469>>538630470What on earth posses you people to misunderstand economics on such a basic level? Do you think the 2008 financial crisis was a GOOD thing? Where do you come up with this ridiculous shit?
>>538630651The government can take those same as your house if you don't pay taxes. They do it all the time.
>>538624457Houses are made of materials that degrade over time. They become worn by weather and usage. They require heavy maintenance at regular intervals. By any other logic a home would be a depreciating asset, but jew magic tells you otherwise.>but muh landThere's no land scarcity unless you are a city rat, and even those places are plagued by ABANDONED LAND. No one buys lots of land, the shit sits on the market forever because jews found a way to make spic (or in your case pakis and niggers) labor construction cost a fortune. Land isn't worth anything by itself because there's tons of unused land everywhere.
>>538623244Deflation is a natural product of industrialism. The better you are at producing things the cheaper it gets to make them. Free market capitalism drives prices lower and sellers compete with each other on prices...So how TF would it be a bad thing for Chinese people to afford housing? Much less being able to afford NICER housing with the money they got? ONLY in American Pig world would being able to afford housing be viewed through the lens of a bad thing, since what will their speculating mercantiles arbitrage? Fucking Jew Brained Goyims.
>>538623300who is the girl at the 8th slot? she is beautiful.
>>538623244>can wumaos please explain to me like im 5, why its a good thing that housing prices are falling in china?The chinese save wealth by buying real state, there was a real state boom and many chinese ( specially those with high income ) started to invest in real estate rising prices artificially, many of them going into debt.That cultural tradition plus easy access to mortages led to a massive real estate bubble that kept prices going up.The Chinese goverment stepped in and defuse the bubble ( not without consequences ) before the damage was higher.As the bubble was defuse real estate prices started to fall over time and the chinese goverment decided to re-shift focus from construction and instead allocated that capital into high tech goods.
>>538623300Now post Demi, The Horribly Obese
>>538631339* Shockingly
>>538623300roll
>>538630660Jew man
>>538629854Pippa looks like a pre-surgery hungarian woman
>>538623244People get mad when I point this out and just start calling me a jew.
>>538623349They already owned their home. They're in population decline. Try again stupid.
>>538626109I don't vtube.. but isn't pipi the only one on this list that's actually based?
>>538632384She and Gura infact lurked here but unlike pipa who mainly shitposted on /v/ and /pol/ Gura frequented /a/ and /jp/
>>538632384only casual pippa fans thinks shes chongus basedreal capipptalists know that she just wants to be rich and famous and power tripit's not like she tries to hide it
It's good in the sense that I cannot FUCKING afford a house in the west so move to China I suppose to start a life there as the west is too fucking expensive
>>538623300I wonder if all the other girls are mean to Pippa for not being a pretty as they are or Asian.She definitely has that small town hill folk Appalachian charm to her.10/10 would breed
>>538632516>she just wants to be rich and famous and power trip Is that not also based?
>>538623300>Shiina
>>538632460I remember when senzawa posted in lolibreads back in the day.Shes enormously based.
Thirty years ago a home cost four average yearly wages to buy.Today it costs twelve average yearly wages.If there is a price correction then it would be better to have it come now and crash the housing bubble than to keep on waiting until it gets worse.
