Previous: >>538898418Day 1,602 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Ukraine conducted the first robot amphibious landing operation in history by landing a single UGV on the Kinburn peninsula>Stanislav Luchanov (former brigade commander) and nine other soldiers of the 155th brigade have been arrested in murder probe - Zelenskyy>Strikes on Krasnodar Krai oil facilities and Moscow/Moscow Oblast>Another 15 russian ships droned>Oil depot was attacked in Mikhaylovsk, Stavropol Krai>Ukrainian Forces Strike Syzran Oil Refinery, 10 Tankers and 4 Ferries>VTB introduced restrictions on cash withdrawals in Crimea>Russia has lost 82 oil tankers to Ukrainian drones in the last 5 days.>Despite not being repaired, the moscow oil refinery has been hit again>russia's gas shortage is now acknowledged by TASS>Peskov begs the U.S to ask Ukraine to stop bombing its oil & gas infrastructure.>india asks Ukraine not to bomb its humanitarian aid to russia>Prominent Z-tard Thirteenth bottled.>Sniffings in Moscow continue. New strike.>China strongly rebukes Russia and forbids it from using Nuclear weapons in its war of aggression.>Sweden authorizes use of its Meteor Missile in Russian Territory>Ukraine is ready to cooperate with Mitsubishi on the production of Patriot missiles - Zelenskyy>Another wave of drones strikes at russian vessels in Azov Sea>fire point will test its ballistic missiles on russia this fall>12 more tankers destroyed in the sea of azov. 35 total>Strikes on Mihalovsk and Tver oil depots.▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateENodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: https://files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip▶russian confirmed KIA updated daily: https://hochuvernut.com/
Day 20 of the 40 day campaign to terrorise pypa. Half way just getting started.
TZD
I've been meaning to ask about this. Does anyone have knowledge of these meteors coming with gripen?I read they can take care of the glide bomb threat due to their range (theoretical 200km) but I know little more about them.Do they work as well as they claim?If they can then Russia loses it's best weapon. Glide bombs are the only effective tool they have really.
TZD & worldwide ziggercide!
>I know it's bad right now for rusniggers>but trust me it will only get worse
>>538914235hohols will claim that this video is real and not AI
>>53891427911 ships now. Is that 136?
>slow and low flying drones going in straight linesSeriously, why can't the Russians shoot them down? WW1 tech should be able to. Is it the krokodil?
>>538914235kek @ the animation of the out of control gunner
Mort Totale de ZiggersHappy Bastille Day!
>>538914290i'm no expert but I remember discussions on /k/ few years ago about how Meteors could be a big change if they were provided to Ukraine thanks to their long range. Russians will effectively have to cease some of their air operations because otherwise they will start losing their airplanes, 200 km is so far that Ukrainians could shot enemy jets down while still flying in their own airpsace.
>>538914331CGI is not AI kek
>>538914387Too much space to cover, incompetent and unmotivated people, and even if they shot down most enough would still get through. Ukraine is much better at shooting them down and still the ones that get through cause damage, thank fuck ziggers are worse at picking and hitting their targets.
>>538914455ziggies have shit aim
>>538914290I don't know but the Swedish Air Force was the 3rd largest and best in the world in the 50s and 60s. They developed a lot of tech that outperformed US and Soviet fighters. For example the Saab Draken was the first supermaneuverable fighter in the world, it could do the Cobra before Russians. The Saab datalinks and electronic warfare systems are tier 1, and the RCS of the Gripen NG is damn near stealth. Chances are that they are exactly as good as they claim.
>Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat is on fire in Bashkortostan after an attack by the Defense Forces.>This is one of the largest oil refining complexes in the Russian Federation with a capacity of 10 million tons of raw materials per year.>Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat refinery>According to preliminary data, the strikes hit:>AVT-6 (primary oil distillation unit)>Shop 20 (high-density polyethylene production).
>>538914366soon there wont be any more to hit, since russia has stopped all transit through
>>538914366The Black Sea is Russian!Deboonked, bong!
>>538914290Meteors are made by MDBA which is party british owned, it's called the best missile in the world because it has an insanely high hit rate due to its ramjet iircUnlike a Russian missile which cannot maneuver well and will get worse at hitting the further it goes, the Meteor maintains its hit rate when it does and more or less has a "dead zone" where it will kill you.As for the Gripen, unclear exactly how good it is but it's superior to the Viggen and can fight in an asymmetric war due to the way its operation works. The Gripen E/F is also at least superior to Ukraine's current F-16s and it has good radars and datalinks. Not F-35 level but it'll be the best aircraft in Ukraine and perfect for air defense.Personally I wish we'd make a stealth frame Gripen but we'll see, SAAB wants to roll something like that out in the 2030s I heard.
>>538914430Just looked up russian glide bombs. The UMPB D-30SN has a range of up to 90km... So it definitely means they are coming into meteor range but they can also shoot back. Just looked up their missile options. No. Meteor doesn't allow them to just fuck up glide bombers. They have missiles of similar range and more. Ok. That's that answered. I guess it gives Ukraine a slight advantage as the bomber is trying to bomb so firing missiles at the same time would be problematic whereas the gripen has just the one job. Still. It's not the easy fix I thought.
>>538914430Can't wait for MUH NUCLEAR TRIANGLE Trupolev getting swatted and pynya just bitching and crying about it a little.
>>538914658You have to take radar range into account as well, Ukraine will be operating with EriEye which is superior to any Russian AWACS. Eventually they might even get GlobalEye considering NATO is ordering them and that might beef production.
>>538914658You are forgetting an extremely important fact that Ukraine has AWACS practically 24/7, while słaboruś has fuck all.
>>538914700Air combat enjoyer detected.
Some new ukrainian recapturing on the ISW map
>>538914656I wonder how the Rafale jets will compare, French promised them for 2028-2029. I think Ukraine already has Mirage-2000 but they are quite old by comparison.
>>538914742That's always nice to see but if you need to zoom in I don't really care for it.I want to see full-scale gestures of good will.
>>538914503>>538914560>>538914387It's all just a photo op for moar gibs! Plenty of benzin to go around! Deboonked!
>>538914578Same issue with refineries. I wonder what the next 20 days will bring?
>>538914260>>538914503>>538914560>wake up>new refinery has been bombedThe Russian refinery rapetrain really does not end.
>>538914770>Ukraine can reach and strike a refinery, but they won't hit the production itself, they'll just hit storage tanks for no real reason, because that would "look" better
>>538914764hopefully just a matter of time
>>538914682are russians even still using them after Spiderweb? I remember they were using those big bombers to launch missiles at Ukraine from afar.
>>538914700>>538914709Noted. Thanks.
>>538914729Naturally.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABs_Kw_miw>>538914759Rafales are quite capable, even more capable than the Gripen C/D in a lot of areas including range which will help in Ukraine, but I think they'll still be used mostly for air defense against ballistic & cruise missiles until Russian AA cracks hard enough for regular intrusions. Ukraine has played its air force close to its territory the whole war to avoid losing pilots and airfarmes, which is to be expected. This is why I've personally wanted a no fly zone or something to be established because F-35s with stealth would basically just rape anything Russian in the airspace with impunity.
https://nitter.net/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/2076920189510181303>In Donetsk region, the Russian army loses over 400 soldiers to capture 1 square kilometer of territory, - SyrskyiKekaroooooo
TZDdeath to the Crimeatroon
>>538914834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdKrVBd2CEMusic to rape obsolete soviet garbage out of the sky to.
>>538914822We chased one away from our carrier just a few days ago.
>>538914899It costs 400 thousand mobiks to capture this banan...for 12 months.
>>538914560>Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat is on fireStill huffing on benzincope in your nafo bubble?
>>538914933really? lmao, russians are such retards
I wonder if the gripen and Rafael will even see action. Nothing coming till 2027. There's a fair chance this could be over by then.
>>538914974>all those bombs>guy still runs off
>>538914974>Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat is on fireYep yep. Clear as day.
>>538914984It was dropping sonobhouys trying to detect our submarine. Fucking gobshites. A couple of F35s escorted it off the premises.
>>538914994I'd be pessimistic unless we know for sure how long they will carry on. Safe to say at least that Russian positions will become a lot more brittle as these refineries are whittled down, the amount of hurt Ukraine can deliver on Russia in the time it takes for them to repair even 1 refinery let alone 10 of them is a lot at this point.
>>538914658>They have missiles of similar range and more.No they dont bruh
>>538915015Yeah I'm happy for him.
YEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
>>538915015They did surprisingly little damage. I watched ukie bombs flatten 6 whole commieblocks in konstantinivka yesterday. Properly flatten. Those houses barely budged.
>>538914994>There's a fair chance this could be over by then.There is a chance, but I think it is more likely that Putin will try a new mobilization in autumn. He can't really afford to lose the war, so he will kick the can down the road. If China comes up with a decent drone defense system, the whole initiative of the war might change again as well.
>>538914279It will only get much, much worseпыпa, итoги
>>538915052I think the refinery hits are a long-term strategy not to strangle r*ssian economy, but to actually tactically strangle r*ssian ability to operate drones.Think about it. You need a generator to charge your shit. What are you going to do if the fuel simply never comes?What are you going to do when you have no drones, and Ukrainian tanks are rolling straight for you?
>>538915052>me it takes for them to repair even 1 refinery let alone 10Sounds cool till you find out that ukraine has 0 (zero) refineries and it didn't change shit and those didn't even get destroyed in the war, ukros ruined them all decade before.
>>538915156>ukraine has 0 (zero) refineriesAnd they have benzin.r*ssia has all those refineries, and no benzin.
>>538915064Yeah the only Russian missile with a similar range is the R-37, but it's not very good at killing fighter aircraft at all even if it forces the Ukrainians to evade as per this articlehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/05/30/with-f-16s-ukrainian-pilots-can-finally-beat-back-russias-mig-31s/?ss=aerospace-defenseThe meteor comparably is unique, because it has a massive no-escape zone that no Russian aircraft can cope with.>>538915156>ukraine has zero refineries, take dat!Ukraine isn't depending its entirely economy on refining oil unlike Ziggeria. This means they are more resilient to strategic attacks, which is also boosted thanks to EU support.
>>538915064I was reading about r-37m. I'm assuming this is for big, slow planes with that range. (400km)R-77m (190km)Hang on. I've just realised, they're lying again, aren't they?If they had these and they worked then Ukraine would have lost a lot more planes by now.....Educate me sir.
>>538915156>zero refineries>no problem with gasvs>shitloads of refineries, literally called a gas station country>wait in days long lines and kill each other for gas
>>538914235Could Ukraine build like a bulky carrier drone that would carry a Starlink terminal and a dozen smaller drones. Then have it land somewhere in the rear and use the smaller FPV drones to ambush passing troops or logistics in a few km radius.
>>538914994War will not end in a year unless something dramatic happens inside Russia. We will see them at work.
>>538914809NAFO discord homohoholololololololololol shillbot troonerino! Russia has so much benzin! They just don't have it RIGHT NOW!
>>538915146Yep. There's a lot of 'what ifs' yet but as it stands, without a miracle.Russia is fucked. The fuel has them cornered.
>>538915064They have the R-37M which is longer range, but realistically needs either a Mig-31 or Su-57 to launch it of which the Russians have limited numbers.Its performance is also not as good as Meteor against a smaller target
>>538914260
>>538915233>Ukraine isn't depending its entirely economy on refining oil unlike Ziggeria.Ukraine has no economy anon. Even the govt employee wages and pension are paid by EU.Russia digs like 500t of gold every year, that alone is enough to finance war.
>>538915249It's a comparably overhyped piece of shit, it can still be dangerous tho but it's nothing compared to the Meteor which does everything it does but better, with lower weight and with a much higher chance of hitting. It also has datalink and will work with western AWACS and ground radar. Since F-35s can carry it (or eventually at least?) it should also be interoperable with fighter radars.
>>538915351>They dig GOOOOOOOOOLDGold has no real value unlike benzin, gold doesn't move cars
>>538914235>BRAAAAAAAAAP-ACK
>>538915188>>ukraine has 0 (zero) refineries>And they have benziComes with a price, in this case $1.6/l
>>538915260both sides have been doing that, they would land a small FPV drone somewhere by a road and wait for passing vehickes to ambush them. I've even seen videos of Ukrainians using drones with lasers to go through roads and disable any drones that might be waiting there before a convoy is scheduled.
>>538915305>Russia is fucked.I really hope that it is and that it will be forced to accept unfavorable conditions for an end of the war.
>>538915260They are already deploying fpv from the GOGOL-M It can deploy in flight and act as a repeater I think.
>>538915351>getting raped this hard by a country with no economyjeeeezus
>>538914770>>538915301>sure they can fly 3000km inside of Russia and strike a refinery but they can't hit the production only storage part 300m to the righPlus even if this retarded line of thinking wasn't pure unadulterated copium, what good is a refinery without storage tanks? What are they gonna do pour gasoline in trucks straight from the burner stack?
>>538915273>something dramaticThe fuel issue is about as dramatic as it gets I'd say?
>>538915355Furthermore, the specific aircraft Russia needs to launch the R-37 have counters.>Vympel MKB’s R37M is designed to shoot down tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft while keeping the launch platform out of range of any fighters that might be protecting the target. A powerful radar is necessary on board the launching aircraft (MiG-31, Su-57 & Su-35S) to acquire a target at maximum ranges.>However MiG-31 & Su-35S radars are Passive Phased Array (PESA) which renders their transmissions highly detectable and spoofable by all modern 4.5 Gen western aircraft DRFM self defense suites : Rafale /Spectra, EF-2000 /EuroDASS, F-16V Bl 70 /AN/ALQ-257 , Gripen-E /IDAS, F-15EX /EPAWSS, AF-18E / AN/ALQ-214(V)4/5 & F-35 /AN/ASQ-239.
>>538915437you're almost there anon.
>>538915351Use your fucking brain, that's enough to fund the war a week or so.>>538915462The fuel issue is like cracks on the glass, the dramatic will be when it actually breaks. You know what i mean.
>>538915355>It's a comparably overhyped piece of shitFigures. Appreciate the education.
>>538914971Okay, but then I definitely need to see the piles of bodies.
>>538915466>slabo ebetewhy even bother
>>538915509Well I'm actually mostly just reading up on this stuff in detail right now, but it's pretty clear once you do.>R-37 only has the 400km range if it's cruising>It weights over twice as much as the Meteor>As such it can only turn at 8g unlike the meteor which can do 12g and accelerate when it's going for the kill>It can't datalink with radar in the same way NATO equipment can>The fighters that can carry a meteor can use electronic warfare to close the rangeWe've had decades to adapt to this shit, this is just the first time it might actually get tested.
>>538914235https://nitter.poast.org/EpsteinFella/status/2076736962522677323#m
>>538914974A leningrad cowboy? What did they mean by this.
>the ol' tiresome
>>538914777my clip is from last year but yeah, ukies still did a lil bombing
>>538915396What?! 360 degree firing range, conveniently propels the operator to a safe distance once the enemy spots the muzzle flashes and returns fire! Amazing Russian engineering!Ugh Discord Troon Cinematic Mariverse SHAKING!
>>538915495gold price is kinda low lately but it's ~$65 bil, ukro-nazis cost EU ~$90 bil/year but that's not only the war but keeping whole country afloat so wages, pensions, initiatives for companies to keep working. So yeah, just gold they dig out of the earths crust is enough to keep military component of the war going.
>>538914974>u.s. won in vietnam because they had big bombs
>>538915146If, if. the russia could do shaheds; if they could do anti-drone systems, they would do them ages ago. It's the structural inability of them to construct such a system. You don't only need an equipment to operate with; but also structures manning them. It's cheaper and easier to make shitty rocket and attack a garage instead. Maybe it doesn't solve the issue but requires no effort and makes monke brain feel good for a moment. It's like ziggers stopping their conga meatwave line to regroup and use better tactic - it's never gonna happen.
>>538915627heh brings back the memories when 4ch was finding faces in everything :-/
why is /chug/ butthurt about /k/?
>>538915703it's just the aesthetics of it. idk who is even bombing who there.
>We are complicating logistics for the enemy, the railway bridge has been hit, significantly damaged, transportation is impossible, and the energy facility that provided the infrastructure of the Russian troops has been destroyed, - 422 Regiment>>538915722Because /k/ doesn't care from where the blood flows, only that it does and it's not coming from Ukraine atm
>>538915722They thought that all the fanboying for russian weapons would translate into ziggerdom
>>538915260There are mother drones working like that for months at this point
>>538915722didn't you nafo trannies got deported/expelled from /k/ by the rednecks there?I remember /k/ being nafo central during the burger night like two years ago.
>>538915682Your figures are massively wrong. Ukraine is not 110% supported. They generate income. So stop talking shite.
>>538915744I can tell a russian spergout over ukie precision strikes when I see it
>>538915787>>>/k/65325553TZD is alive and well on /k/
>>538915398>having no gas is better than having slightly overpriced gasZhills are truly in their final death throes
>>538914235>OPicI dont know why you trannies think this bit of badassery is worthy of mockery.This is why Russians win. They are channeling the spirit of American rednecks.
>>538915838Maybe when burgers are asleep and copebelt noguns take it over, at least that's how it was two years or so ago.
>>538915398$1.6 is a steal when it costs $5 per liter in Russia
>>538915516Fake news! Don't you know that Putin is BASED and is the ONLY world leader fight NAFO degeneracy? There are no shortages! There is only a plan to ELIMINATE PROSTITUTION, westie hohol shillbot! She can't go out! She's got herpes! BASED!Deboonked!
>>538915752>The 422nd Unmanned Systems "Luftwaffe" Regiment is a prominent military unit of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, operating out of Kryvyi Rih and heavily deployed in the Zaporizhzhia sector. I wonder where this bridge is?
>>538915787I've never been to /k/.
>>538915912>Heh, don't you know that /k/ is pro-zigger when my bahrat comrades wake up!? checkmate!Everyone civilized on /k/ hates ziggers and they have made fun of ziggers like Armatard for over a decade, this war just made them completely justified.
>>538915891>slightly overpriced gasIt's $1,6 while wages are russian tier maybe even worse, like median for ukraine is $400/month. You won't be driving far on that.At least you get free bus ride when they snatch you off the street.
>>538915814>They generate income.Do they?Does a country that lost half their population in a single generation, and the other half is kidnapped off the street to fuel a war, produce a lot of taxes?Does a country that had their most valuable land stripped from them "generate income?"What is the tax rate for humans trafficked through ukraine?
>>538915943you didn't miss anything. even decades before the war it was lowest iq poorest board of all 4ch, people there got dealt some really bad cards in life.
>>538915966Isn't it like 500-700 euro's in Russia? IDK how third worlders make it when food/utility prices never seem to be that cheap.
>>538915943>I've never been to /k/.Imagine a community meant for gun nuts, but its taken over by trannies.
>>538916050They are 12 year olds. None of them even talk about the meat and potato's of warfare. Its all gear queer shit.
>>538915943/k/ are made mostly of white westerners so obviously they dunk on russia and can easily recognise retarded vatnik propaganda aimed at 3rd worlders. And to make things worse for ziggers, /k/ mods actually do their job and clean up the board of their pro-russian diarrhoea.
>>538916019>people there got dealt some really bad cards in life.>t. SerbI’m actually laughing. Keep going
>>538915927>is a prominent military unit of the Ukrainian Ground ForcesCan designated fodder ever be "prominent?"
>>538915752you're posting uninteresting videos which are on top of that badly encoded by someone who doesn't know wtf is he doing, probably encoded on phone too.
>>538916097/k/ is like the clearest showcase that these ziggers are just dime a dozen VPN pidors or bots considering how often they return only to get banned. Zero honest discussion intended, only disinfo. They can't even accurately discuss the very few merits that Russian strategy has that has kept them in the fight or such, just posturing.
>>538915986I was in Ukraine last month for 3 weeks. It's a perfectly normal country with a perfectly normal economy. (Outside of the front lines obviously)It puts my country to shame in entrepreneurship if I'm honest. You should go and see for yourself. Here is a picture of the dairy aisle in the local shop. You should all think it's some bombed out hellhole but it's just perfectly normal. Obviously a costly war affects the economy hugely but on the ground? It's just operating normally. You guys need to get out more.
>you nafo tranniesyou bump a natsoc blaming antifa general
>>538914387Flying low means you have to pretty much fly exactly over an air defense position to get shot down.And Ukraine must know exactly where Russia's air defenses are due to American satellite images and perhaps just trial and error.Fighters should be able to shoot them from above though.But I don't know if Russian airborne radars can see such small object so close to the ground - they probably look like cars to them.
>>538916112you don't get it.Imagine being born in US and out of all possibilities you get born into poverty in some bumfuck rural hellhole. That's /k/.
>>538915516Jesus he talks fast. As usual, I only understand half of what they're saying and the rest is just greek to me.
>>538916150There's orange in those clouds, must be nukes.>badly encoded by someone who doesn't know wtf is he doingKEK, uninteresting but they're doing a lot more than whatever ziggeria has attempted these last few months.Grabbed off of twitter and thrown through an FFMPEG script for a few seconds, but anyone with eyes can make out what's happening in them: unstoppable TZD! kekapatooty
>>538916243It's hard for fighters to track small targets below them due to ground clutter.
>>538916169yeah true, also I think ziggers hate /k/ so much because often anons there actually know what they are talking about so it takes just few moments for whatever bullshit they are claimign to get debunked in detail
rutrannies would love /k/ if jannies there allowed them their own coping safespace like they do here on /pol/
>>538916243They put up an A50 coupled with an SU57 to counter 7 drones launched at Omsk. That's a 2400km journey and they are SLOW. They got 1 of the 7. Their best AWACS, their best jet.
>>538916243American satellite is scarily detailed based on the few leaked images Trump released a few years ago, shit can legitimately pinpoint cars and people. Not live of course, but in images which is all you need with a good timetable.Fighters can only shoot them with the A-50 AWACS going, Russia only has 5 of those left.
>>538916243>And Ukraine must know exactly where Russia's air defenses are due to American satellite images and perhaps just trial and error.Why don't they know due to European satellite images? Have you ever wondered that anons? Why did French intel think Russia wasn't even going to invade Ukraine? Was it because they're outside of five eyes and hence US intel? Macron fired his own intel chief over that. And the gap has massively escalated due to Mythos. The NSA has access to any server that is plugged in and connected to the internet right now. Greatest intel coup in human history and zero talk about it...because that's how the glowies want it.
>>538916267>uninteresting but they're doing a lot moreI'm here mostly for cool images and videos, it's image board after all (ruined by phoneposters tho).As for this soviet union civil war who fucking cares out of feeling the heat through taxes & inflation.
>>538916357France is better known for on the ground intel gathering since Napoleon they got whole families involved in that the same way Russia does. Actual hard intel assets ie images/data centers that pull info from open source is much weaker out there.
>>538916343>American satellite is scarily detailed based on the few leaked images Trump released a few years ago, shit can legitimately pinpoint cars and peopleThey've been able to read license plates since the late 1960s. The mirror of the Hubble telescope was an extra from the NRO, who already had several intel satellites with the same mirror but pointed down.>Not live of course,Oh yes, live.
>>538916364Then sit down and relax, you're going to see a lot of cool images and videos the next 18 days.
>>538915351>Ukraine has no economy anona country with "no economy" grew tax revenue 21.7% yoy in H1 2026. domestic revenues cover the ENTIRE ukrainian military budget with margin - western money covers the civilian side by design, because donors don't buy weapons. and the ERA loans are serviced from profits on frozen russian assets. putin is literally paying ukrainian pensions lmao>Russia digs like 500t of gold every year500t is kozlov's TASS fanfic from last month. USGS: 310t. Metals Focus: 345t. even russian industry analysts say ~365t and called the +50% jump impossible, zero new mines opened. you're quoting a press release the miners themselves laughed at>that alone is enough to finance war345t ≈ $55-60B at record prices. russia's Q1 defense spending ALONE was $75B. also the state doesn't own the gold anon, polyus does - the budget gets a mining taxand the punchline: the CBR started SELLING gold from reserves (21.8t dumped in Q1 to plug the hole), banned citizens from exporting over 100g, jacked VAT to 22%, and the H1 deficit already blew past the full-year target by 60%. countries whose gold "finances the war" don't liquidate the piggy bank and shake down their own serfs kekrotate the medvedev jpeg, the economics arc isn't landing
>>538916400>France is better known for on the ground intel gatheringOk but I asked why they thought Russia was going to invade, not what kind of intel they are better known fore.
>>538916364>who fucking caresI do. As does anyone with a brain and a properly functioning life.
>>538916188why are you responding to mearskike in good faith?
>>538916434>why they thought Russia was going to invade*wasn't
>>538916426based finnbro debunking tons of nonsense
>>538915682Mining gold isn't pure profit.It costs a lot of energy to operate mining machines.Gold mines usually barely break even and close down when the gold price is lower than the mining cost. - that's what stabilizes the price.With the current fuel situation I doubt Russia mines any gold at all.
>>538916426I was hoping you would educate him.
You guys still can dig up some graves with anthrax victims and use their parts to deliver with drones anthrax to russia food production
>>538916426>grew tax revenue 21.7% yoyif you actually knew what those words meant, you would know how impossible that all is.I guess its your job to say ridiculous, unbelievable shit.
>The EU is opening the sixth negotiation cluster "External Relations" for Ukraine on its path to membership. The same cluster is being opened for Moldova. >European Commissioner for Enlargement Marta Kos also stated that the European Commission is ready to open other clusters for Ukraine, but it depends on the member states.Imagine the zigger seethe if they actually go through in such short order.
>>538916438>properly functioning lifeAnon you ended up on 4ch. No one ends up here because he's doing good.
Bonjour frens,TZDToday, 14/07/2026, is the day of France’s annual great military parade. Held in Paris, this year’s edition will see 10.000 soldiers and 250 vehicles on the Champs Elysées. An air parade will also take place, showcasing helicopters and airplanes.This year’s theme is the Coalition of the Willing, which helps Ukraine defend itself against Russian invasion.Several European heads of state and government are present, including Zelensky. 25 Ukrainian soldiers will take part in the parade.>When does it start?In about 20 minutes.>Where can I watch it live?Here : https://www.youtube.com/live/LQFX7kA4q-w?is=MP8mN0U1ARzB0gXo
>>538916467Imagine placing your hopes on ukie-gpt.that is how pathetic you are.
>>538916440I didn't realise.
>the board most knowledgable about guns and warfare dunks on Russia a lot because Russia sucks at warThat's the answer, little cum-chuggers :)
>Russia’s fuel crisis has now reached the stage black market gas stations.>In Rostov, police detained a reseller who was buying fuel in bulk despite sales limits and even built an illegal mini gas station with pumps and a fuel dispenser to resell it to locals.>Police seized 4.5 tons of fuel during the raid.>>538916523Wonderful.
>>538916523thanks, I almost forgot
>>538916464>With the current fuel situation I doubt Russia mines any gold at all.You're misinformed but it's ok that's what nafo bubble does to people.Notice how nafo trannies are always screaming "benzin" and not "fuel" in general. That's because there's shortage of gas, there's no shortage of diesel. Gas is only used for small passenger vehicles, all the commercial stuff runs on diesel.
>>538916475>21% tax increase is impossible, but 50% jump in gold production is normal cumrade ))))
>>538916517Life has ups and downs kiddo. When I came here it was down. It was a LONG time ago..Unfortunately, noone ever leaves. Best I ever managed was 3 years....
>>538916649well, they are muslim so obviously they are in hell
>>538916357>Why don't they know due to European satellite images?European spy satellites are nowhere as high resolution as America's.American spy satellites are similar to the Hubble space telescope, just pointed down.Nobody has anything close to that.A group of guys with a machine gun isn't visible for European satellites but it is for American.>but how do you know?Trump posted a top secret picture taken with such a satellite in his first term, oopsie.
>>538916545Bore off you boring fucking bore
>>538916523Will be tuning in to see the boudin
>>538916523Thanks for the link. Comfy.
didnt the russian gold mining company literally go bankrupt a few weeks ago? lmao
>>538916628>there's no shortage of dieselStops diesel exports, limits diesel sales, classifies diesel statistics and pricing....Sure lad, and if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.
In one night, July 14th. 116 ships intercepted in 9 days by the SBS (Special Boat Service) in the Sea of Azov as part of Operation "Molochka": 5 tankers, 5 cargo ships, and 1 tugboat.*The shadow fleet is withering, but it must disappear as a species.*Many people don't understand what's happening around that naval engagement. Where do all these tanker ships come from? What is their mission? And why is the SBS targeting them, not sinking them, but turning them into drifting specters at sea? I'll have time soon to record a video with explanations.Here's a brief explanation: The operation paralyzes the feeder fleet of Russia ("courier" small and medium-sized 140-meter flat-bottomed tankers with a deadweight of 7,000 tons), which is a significant component of Russia's shadow fleet. It essentially prevents the export of "black gold" from Russian port oil transshipment bases and pumping stations via the Volga-Don Canal and the Sea of Azov to large tankers that cannot navigate the shallow waters to the oil terminal or port. Instead, they are forced to be loaded (bunkered) from the tanks of those "courier" tankers in the Black Sea, taking on cargo from 12-15 of these vessels. Also, disabling these "camel-like" tankers (and the tugboats that persistently tow them after being hit) restricts the delivery of scarce gasoline to Crimea via the narrow channel of the shallow Sea of Azov, leaving the main and very dangerous method of delivery as rail and road tank cars, which are also under fire control of the patriotic Ukrainian SBS, whether it's asphalt or rails.That was a complex sentence, but those who are curious will understand. I promise to record a more detailed explanation soon.Let's work, gentlemen! There's a lot of work to be done.We will endure.*Moscow will fall, Operation "Molochka" is in action.*We will feed and rebuild Crimea.MADЯR *14.07.26*https://litter.catbox.moe/fa39301k4rixgwcx.MP4
>>538916628We say "benzin" because it sounds funny.Petrol and diesel are made in the same plants and diesel is the #1 target because it's used in military vehicles.
>>538916713It will be sung without a doubt, that’s the Foreign Legion’s song.>For the Belgians, there’s no more >For the Belgians, there’s no more >They’re a bunch of lazy bums!>They’re a bunch of lazy bums!
>>538916681We have no clue how good French or other European satellites are because they haven't leaked their capability. We didn't know how good american ones were for sure until Trump decided to leak it. It's a strategic decision, but the EU is perfectly capable of making observatory-tier satellites and has participated in many NASA projects via the ESA anyway.AFAIK atm Ukraine is relying on French space assets a lot outside of Starlink for comms.
>>538916763Chinks are selling gold and silver. The government is literally running out of money and deflation is hitting their economy pretty hard so local government revenue is drying up. Not end of the world but chinks were buying Russian gold majority of the time leading up to this.
>>538916763It was nationalised then failed to sell 4 times I think, then sold WAY under market value.
ukro-nazis fucking up terrorist attackin all honesty they look like some incompetent randos that good blinded by all the money they'll get.you have to be fucking stupid to take a job like that knowing how brutal and shitty russian prisons are.
>>538916434Putin invading was originally predicted by American intelligence, but we know Putin was hiding those orders from even his generals. Only with a few people in top positions in the kremlin would you stumble on that information. The French either didn't or thought that invading Ukraine would be too stupid to be a plausible move (spoiler: It was very stupid)Still fired their Intel guy due to his failure however.
>>538916681>A group of guys with a machine gun isn't visible for European satellites but it is for American.Why though? This is what I am asking.>>538916798>We have no clue how good French or other European satellites areWell French intel said that the Russians weren't going to invade Ukraine so...
>>538916798German Zeiss company makes the most sophisticated lenses and mirrors for the ASML machines used for chip manufacturing, so I would assume Europe could figure something out for spy satellites too
>>538916856Yeah I'm sure Ukrainian special forces would rig a bunch of cameras in a warehouse to spy on themselves LOL
>>538916837>deflation is hitting their economy pretty hardthis is craziest shit I have ever heard. you get this brainwashed by the jews in US?
>>538916862there was a rumor early into the war that russian kill teams were trying to assassinate Zelensky but were eliminated with the help of French secret services
>>538916523Based. Can't wait to see them dab on the russnigger pride day.
>>538916475>if you actually knew what those words meantok, let's test that. which word is impossible - "tax", "revenue", or "21.7"?relax, nobody's asking you for sources. no links, no reading. just pick a letter:(a) ukraine doesn't have ~10% inflation(b) the military levy wasn't tripled from 1.5% to 5%(c) excises weren't raised to EU levels(d) the 4% PIT share wasn't moved back into the state budget"impossible" means at least one of those is fake. which one, anon? single keystroke. I'll handle the fact-checking part myself, I know how you feel about sources10% inflation alone gets you halfway to 21.7 before a single tax hike. the claim you find unbelievable is "prices rose and taxes went up during a war". truly the stuff of legend>I guess its your jobone of us knows what the words mean. the other materialized within the hour to run cover for the gold guy, and his entire rebuttal was a feeling. which one's working the shift?
>>538916862There were lots of movements of troops and equipment that were visible for weeks. This was visible to public satellites. But you're definitely right. The CIA had/has a very high up mole in the Russian government and that's how they knew and why it because awkward when they couldn't say how they knew. Remember that press conference back in feb 2022? They were reduced to saying "trust us bro" and no one did but they were right, because they had a spy very high up.
>>538916856>those cinematic camera anglesvatnik bollywood kek
>>538916896House prices are dropping, food prices are dropping. Anon yes chinks are facing deflation. Its not end of the world levels but its plenty to affect most people. Its cheaper than ever to live there. Russia is facing inflation due to government contracts.
>>538916935>why it because awkward*became
>>538916862>thought that invading Ukraine would be too stupid to be a plausible moveSame.
>>538916947>Its cheaper than ever to live there.And their wages are falling to match. That's how PPP works.
>>538916947>House prices are dropping, food prices are dropping. Anon yes chinks are facing deflation.That's bad only if you're fucking kike.
>>538916798>We have no clue how good French or other European satellites are because they haven't leaked their capability. We didn't know how good american ones were for sure until Trump decided to leak it.We know how big the mirrors are because we know how big the rockets are that put them in space.And thanks to Trump we know the resolution is very close to the diffraction limit of the mirror, which depends entirely on its size.It is physically impossible to get the same resolution with a smaller mirror.
>>538916866>Well French intel said that the Russians weren't going to invade Ukraine so...See >>538916862The intel of the invasion had nothing to do with satellite intel, it was spy intel. People knew they had their exercise and were amassing forces, but they were in disbelief that they were actually going to invade because it was so stupid. Especially with the amount of forces they had which could not hold a city like Kyiv.The main issue on the Russian part was that they thought they had tons of collaborators that would dismantle Ukraine's defenses for them, which is why they had a bunch of police with them in the initial invasion to quell unrest.>>538916935Pretty much.>>538916919I recall it more as them trying to kill Zelensky during the initial push on Kyiv but Ukrainian special forces took care of them. Maybe they used French intel? Maybe there's still some sources out there but idk
>>538916979Would you take a lower wage to compensate for cheaper products?
>>538916935I wonder who it was. Gerasimov? The Tuvan degenerate? The Cuck of Kherson?
5 minutes https://www.youtube.com/live/LQFX7kA4q-w?is=k-54Mi8uYgfLOFtp
>>538916968>And their wages are falling to matchMaybe for new workers. Present workers are already locked in.Not only that, deflation is very good if you are already consistently exporting. Inflation is only good if you are trying to export, and are importing.
>>538916676Actually, all muslims who perish in the cause of Allah ascend directly to Jannah, whereupon their right hands will come to possess 72 (seventy-two) virgins whose hymens grow right back no matter how many times they zigazagaaahh! And when they're tired of that they can have chaste intercrural relations with the ghilman, young boys as beautiful as scattered pearls!DEBOONKED!
And Mearsh shut the fuck up. As always. KEKAROOOO, as they say.
Excuse me? What is this chink ambassador doing here?
>>538916523It's in french! Arrogant sods!
>>538916980James Webb has a foldable mirror that can look at other planets, had input from the ESA and was launched with a French rocket. You can achieve insane resolutions without necessarily having a Saturn-V rocket or a Starship rocket that only NASA can launch.
>>538917031Yeah like i said not the end of the world out there. Jobs are still littearly around the corner for most people. Newer jobs ie fresh college kids are kinda stuck with whatever is available.
>>538916992lower wages? idk what are you even talking about.they could just print money and send it to ukraine, problem fixed, no deflation anymore.you got lobotomized by the kikes anon.
>>538916986>I recall it more as them trying to kill Zelensky during the initial push on Kyiv but Ukrainian special forces took care of them. Maybe they used French intel? Maybe there's still some sources out there but idkthe rumor said that there was a unit of French spec ops guys in their embassy in Kyiv during first days of the invasion and they might have been doing 'something' back then to help, I even heard that there was supposedly a shootout with russian kill team going after Zelensky but we might never know for sure
>>538916866>Why though? This is what I am askingIt's all down to size.Bigger mirror = higher resolution.This is true for ground based telescopes as well as space telescopes and spy satellites which are really just telescopes pointing down.But such big space telescopes costs billions and require very large rockets, that's why only USA can do it.
https://litter.catbox.moe/wld8rcxn1gz4lmaw.mp4
>>538917079It's a two-edged blade and I think ultimately deflation is the most desirable option. It has to be very slow and gradual, and everyone simply has to tough it out.I'd much rather have -2.5% deflation than 2.5% inflation.
>>538917067Here’s the AP coverage. There doesn’t seem to be commentary though.https://www.youtube.com/live/BLo412lheOY?is=rD9VYSJWz4qw3iTa
>>538917075Also James Webb has a mirror 2.7 times the size of Hubble.
>>538916935I think the mole is British actually. We were always better than you at that. You do the tech stuff. We do the Bond bit.
>>538917075And that's probably the future for spy satellites but we aren't there yet.>how do we know?- Trump
>>538917089>they could just print money and send it to ukraine, problem fixed, no deflation anymore.How is that going to reverse chink's economy from deflating? Wouldn't you want to print money to manufacturers to produce more equipment to send to both Ukraine and Russia to induce inflation? Anon you are stuck on one subject and say "China has zero deflation" Then state "Deflation is good fuck the kikes" Which is it?
The security detail must be incredible. There are 25 heads of state in one place.
>>538916856That looks very staged. Lol at the blinking lights on the drones being posed in the middle of the room for no reason.
>>538916932Fact check! There is no russnigger pride day! Between 10 and 15% (currently increasing) of the Russian population is Muslim and everyone knows Muslims throw LGBTQ-identified individuals off of roofs! And definitely don't let them have parades! Or sendf them to the Olympics! In jockstraps and sweaty wifebeaters!Deboonked!
>>538917117I like the idea it would shake out the non competitive industries and might even allow others to exist in the loss of certain companies. Smaller metal workers/CNC machine companies only exist due to the increase in worker productivity but the cost of starting up is just as high as ever. If the bottom falls out and the prices drop for consumers of those products you might see a company fail but with more employees hired at other smaller companies. Lots of pull's/levers involved in an economy.
>>538917172It's sims 3 tier slop
Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov described today’s parade as a gathering of madmen and warmongers.
>>538917156>Anon you are stuck on one subject and say "China has zero deflation"No, they have deflation and that's good for big majority of the people.And this deflation probably comes from rise in production efficiency. When there's demand chinks increase production vs how it's handled in this neoliberal utopia here where they just increase prices and feed you with inflation is good for you shit.just leave chinks do their own thing, have no problems of your own?
Ukrainians should step up and drone the yelabuga Tatarstan drone factory already
friendly econ lesson for the thread since someone thinks deflation is based>deflation is bad only for bankersother way around anon. loans are nominal. when prices and incomes fall, the debt stays the same size - the real burden grows. deflation is a wealth transfer FROM debtors TO creditors. by your own logic you just took the banker's side keknow china specifically:chinese households park most of their wealth in apartments. sales down 65% from peak, evergrande liquidated with $300B in liabilities, millions pre-paid for homes that never got built. "house prices dropping" isn't a discount, it's the middle class watching its savings evaporate while the mortgage stays full sizeproducer prices fell for 3+ straight years. factories cut prices, then margins, then wages, then workers. youth unemployment: 16.9%. consumers delay buying because it's cheaper next month, which forces more price cuts. the spiral feeds itself - that's the entire reason deflation is feared and mild inflation is targetedand the punchline: beijing agrees with me, not with you. xi launched a literal national campaign in july 2025 - "anti-involution" - to force capacity cuts and END the deflation. the only reason chinese CPI crawled back to ~1% this year is that it partly worked. you're not redpilled about deflation, you're arguing against the politburo lmaobonus observation: this same rotation tells us russian double-digit rates are fine AND chinese deflation is fine. prices up = good, prices down = good, depending on whose flag it happens under. macroeconomics of pure ass feeling
>>538917131Only joking bud. French is grand.
>>538917172>>538917274>That looks very staged. Lol at the blinking lightsthat's some hard nafo bubbling there.it's ok if you're just shitposting but after some time you'll start self feeding on it.
>>538914235TzD
>>538917276>described today’s parade as a gathering of madmen and warmongers.They are beginning to understand......
>>538917284Its not always 100% a good thing if your wages shit the bed with it and you can't find a job. We had a ton of deflation during the 1920's when 20% of the population in the US wasn't able to get a job so clearly its not the best. Some products naturally deflate due to productivity increases and competition but that's not always the case. Less demand on products can also cause deflation but if there's job loss from it you end up causing more deflation elsewhere 2008 financial crisis saw US housing production/banking jobs shit the bed hard for almost a decade and when they didn't have a job everyone else got hit and flatlined product pricing/wage growth for a decade due to reduced demand. You sound like a butthurt faggot anon.
>>538914235kek at that gif
>>538916792Indeed they are ass shootersI'm a bit of a dork for military music, tis a good oneThat and Quand Madelon are good gallic contributions to the canonhttps://youtu.be/aZAkMfb71Wg?si=jWilR_iDIs21qjdv
>Magyar: +11 over the night of July 14. 116 ships were hit by the SBS Birds in the Sea of Azov in 9 days: 5 tankers, 5 dry cargo ships and 1 tugboat.>>538917276Part of me is hoping they'll parade around some burn out Russian vehicles, imagine the seethe.
>>538917307this is what getting buck broken by jews looks like.since you're on 4ch it's safe to assume you're also poor and now you're trying to reason yourself into being against your own interests.
wow even king Chud came to visit from Serbia
>>538917442Kek, we’re not that spicy.
>>538917350It's a NAFO reality, you're just living in it.
>>538916150A reasonable man would be pissing and shidding himself in the fetal position as close to the center of the building as possible. But these people are brave/stupid enough to film from their balcony. Fucking nuts.
>>538917319Based rosbif.
>>538917453>since you're on 4ch it's safe to assume you're also poor>also poor
>>538917453>poorAnon lol
>>538917453>deflation is based and good for the poorpop quiz anon. croatia had deflation in 2014-15. cheap houses, cheap food, prices falling - paradise by your own theory. so remind the thread how the poor enjoyed it?17% unemployment. 43% youth unemployment. and then 400,000 of your countrymen - a tenth of the entire country kek - packed up and left. and WHERE did the poor go? germany, austria, ireland. the most expensive, most banker-run economies on the continent lmaoso which is it: were they fleeing FROM the deflationary utopia, or running TO the oppression? did half of slavonia relocate to munich to get exploited on purpose?no googling needed, you lived it. it's why your country imports nepalis to fill the empty chairs now kek
>>538917550>also pooryeah I'm poor. If I had money I would not be here in the first place but tearing up trails in rzr1000 or hitting the swells on waverunner.
>All the European forces in the paradeVery nice.
>>538917631Regardless of your position you can fight for Russia for 20-60k USD for 6 months or Ukraine for 2-4k USD a month. Just do it anon.
>>538916122>Can designated fodder ever be "prominent?"I don't know. Veh Deh Veh were pretty famous.
>>538916523>oui id
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>538916188Mearshy is stuck in the Russian condition.
>>538917656100% most of the people fighting for Russian never see their money, and if they do most of it will have been stolen by their commanders before it reaches them kek
>>538917656>20-60k USD for 6 months or Ukrainelol I'm us/west europe tier poor not east euro tier poor.
>>538917442Beautiful. 116 ships damaged or destroyed at a cost of, let's say 200 drones * 100 dollars = 20,000 dollars to do billions in damage. Innovation is a wonderful thing.
>>538917686Kek I hadn’t noticed.Absolutely blessed.
>>538917723I'm enjoying the teamwork. They use one drone to confirm the hit then the next confirms the next.....
>>538917631>yeah I'm poor.is that why you cheer for russia? you want others to be as miserable as you?
>>538917715I am JKing but can you give me a cost breakdown of Croatia i know its not that great but not Eastern euro bad either.
>>538917723>a cost of, let's say 200 drones * 100 dollarsthey are FP-2s, they cost several grand each at least
News! 25% of Russian internet users can't get onto Google and 96% can't get onto GitHub! BASED Russian internet providers are blocking Zuck's NAFO disinfo and hohol cyberattack vectors through collaborative software development! Who needs information when you have a Rentry with forty gigs of pdfs right on /chug/? And BASED Russia gets its software from INDIA!Stupid discord Mariverse troons!
>>538917821Even at tens of thousands, the sheer damage caused is disproportionate.
>>538917031>Maybe for new workers. Present workers are already locked in.How do you know? Do you live in China? Is that why you hide your flag?
>>538916523Nice
>>538917846Disproportionate yes, but largely irrelevant. /k/ also likes to focus on cost of weapon vs target for some dumb ass reason I can't figure out.
>>538917117>I'd much rather have -2.5% deflation than 2.5% inflation.Naive retardation bro. Go look up how fucked up deflation really is.
>>538917848Nigger who the fuck mentally raped you so bad that you think inflation is good?
>Russian dry cargo ship with its cargo hatch cover raised vertically and positioned as a makeshift shield for the bridge against frontal drone strikes.Holy shit they are desperate.
>>538917101Right but why don't European intel agencies have bigger mirros like burgers do? This is what I'm asking. Why is Ukraine dependent on American intel that they cannot get elsewhere?
>>538917909Anon there is a reason he's poor
>>538917908>but largely irrelevantfeel free to go to ratmea and tell them that
Macron has been saluted by the republican guard, the aerial parade is about to begin.https://www.youtube.com/live/LQFX7kA4q-w?is=_09HaQwh9Qpx5R4z
>>538917909Oh no, not PRODUCTS getting CHEAPER and my MONEY becoming STRONGER!Inflation = good is the retarded fantasy of the top 20% sold to the bottom 80%.I am not a wealthy owner of anything, therefore I do not give a fucking rat's ass if some retarded real estate developer can't build on the cheap anymore.
>>538917923I'd... just fly around
>>538917143You are natural schemers. You learned it from the jews and our glowniggers learned it from (You).
>>538917920How do you know? Do you live in China? Is that why you hide your flag?
>>538917945We have been supporting Ukraine since Obama so i doubt they would waste money on investing in shit they get for free.
>>538917945We don't know if they do or not. As I said before, the James Webb telescope that replaced Hubble used a French rocket. Lenses and mirrors that can do the job for the EU are doable.
>>538918005why don't European intel agencies have bigger mirros like burgers do? This is what I'm asking.>>538918012>the James Webb telescope that replaced Hubble used a French rocketwhat does that have to do with European intelligence satellites?
>>538917975Very nice.Apparently the Ukrainian airforce will participate too. Wonder if they'll use their MiGs and SUs or go for the Mirage-2000 or F-16.
>>538916523Takes notes, russia
>>538917703what causes this way of thinking? wtf is wrong with these "people"?
>>538917923Genius. Truck drivers heading to Crimea will now put their engine covers up as a shield to completely block the fragile windscreen.
>>538914235losing to anime girls now?
>>538918040Who knows. Last time i checked we IE NASA used to outsource to Russia unless it was intel related. But Euro's are broke retards for military spending.
>>538917975looking great, you guys have the best parades as usual
>>538918042They’re flying as copilots in French two-seater Mirage 2000s.
>>538918000>How do you know?Simply observation of deflationary economies.
>>538918040Because those are observatory-tier mirrors and they can be launched by European rockets. The James Webb telescope is so high resolution that it can look at planets in other solar systems (in low res but still very impressive)It used Ariane 5, which was launched from 2005 - 2017. Any Euro satellite between those dates could be technically capable of watching at least individual vehicles from space.
>>538917980Exactly! MANY Cheka, NKVD and KGB officers were secular communist Jews! They denounced the Talmud! BASED!
>>538918115I assume it's the guys they are training then.
>>538917800idk man never really got deep into it but over last decade everything got super expensive and I'm just burning through money tho I'm kinda on easy mode since got some property on the coast to rent and got apartment from grandma.You need ~2k€ to live normal modest life and that's w/o rent. If you have to rent add another 1k€ and wages are meh median is 1.5k€.It's like everywhere in western world, progress mainly benefits the rich which are getting very very rich since EU.
>discussion about inflation in China and Croatia
>>538917976You think about 5 bucks in your pocket instead of thinking how you'll be earning more money, how businesses around you will be earning money and so on. This is literally african nigger-tier logic. Deflation fucks up spending, which fucks up businesses, which fuck up people being able to earn money, which fucks up economy even more. It's a viscous cycle.
>>538917975Clearly France has depleted it's weapons arsenal to Ukraine.......NATO is finished!
>>538917976>my MONEY becoming STRONGERgenuine question anon: if you own nothing, how much money do you actually hold? a paycheck, maybe two. now who's sitting on decades of it - cash, deposits, bonds? the top 20% you're mad at. deflation makes their pile grow while they sleep. your "stronger money" is one month deep. theirs is a warehouse. who wins that trade?second question: if you own nothing, 100% of your economy is your wage. and your wage is also a price - the price of your labor. in deflation, what does a company cut first: its debts, which are fixed in nominal terms, or your salary and your job? falling prices reach you before they reach the shelfnow the home test. prices in poland rose every single year of your life - by your theory the bottom 80% got robbed for thirty straight years. so explain this: unemployment 19% in 2004, 3% now. real wages +87% since 2000, with the biggest gains at the BOTTOM of the distribution. minimum wage up sevenfold since 2001. if inflation is a fantasy sold to the poor, why did poland's poorest gain the most during the most inflationary catch-up run in europe?reverse test: name one country where people who own nothing thrived under falling prices. greece 2013-16? croatia 2014-15, 43% youth unemployment? japan's thirty frozen years? there isn't one
>>538918005>We have been supporting Ukraine since ObamaBy sending MREs
>>538918084>Who knowsI know.>Last time i checked we IE NASA used to outsource to Russia unless it was intel related. Wut?>>538918117No, you said Chinese workers wages aren't going down unless they're new. Simple observations of deflationary economies doesn't allow you to know that stupid chink. Your verbal iq is so very bad isn't it?>>538918118>Because those are observatory-tier mirrors and they can be launched by European rockets.I'm not asking about the rockets but the satellites.
>>538918134Indeed.
>>538917980>You are natural schemers. You learned it from the jews and our glowniggers learned it from (You).Maybe we are schemier than you realise and we didn't teach you the good stuff.....
>>538918194I don't argue with bad faith retards. You're mentally raped to believe inflation is good for you, probably because you're a MIGA retard and the orange nigger recently said he loves inflation.
>>538918194>I'm not asking about the rockets but the satellites.Well then we don't know because they are confidential. All we know is that Ukraine is using french SatINT to some degree and they have no issue finding and targeting almost anything inside Russia.
>>538918170Everyone - this is the power of jewish media
>>538918170He imagines deflation through Productivity increases/lowered utilities/gas/food and cheaper PPI which allows more companies to compete in the market which lowers prices. He forgets that sometimes deflation happens through job loss which is currently what is happening in China.We need Fusion which would allow for cheaper energy prices and thus cheaper desalination/converting air into literal fuel which the US navy is considering for its nuclear carriers and many other uses. Other things like meteorite mining would cause deflation of metals but this is future tech.
Foreign troops are now parading
I guess when you're shown to be absolutely clueless about economics, the only thing you have left is to blame the Jews.
>>538918170>Deflation fucks up spending, which fucks up businesses, which fuck up people being able to earn money, which fucks up economy even moreNo it doesn't.What it DOES fuck up is excessive and fake growth, which is what corporations and kikes hate.People don't suddenly stop consuming because a magic number hits a negative. People simply consume LESS, which is what causes kikes to experience agonizing pain, because the goyim get to see that maybe deflation isn't that bad after all.In fact, why even argue about this? Chinx are deflating intentionally right now. They're done playing the poor plastic factory game. They have all the manufacturing and production they need. Unlike r*ssia, chinx can actually exist indefinitely without outside help, so deflation helps them.
>>538918187my dude, you've yet to receive a second reply from all the people that disagred with you. lots of effort just to debunk random zigger shills
>>538916947>House prices are dropping, food prices are dropping. the fuck is this cope LMAO
>>538918281A tale as old as time itself.
>>538918273>happens through job loss which is currently what is happening in China.There has to be any indication of this actually happening beyond obviously and painfully unprofitable businesses that were chugging along loan off a loan back to back like some broke ghetto nigger.
TOTALZiggerDEATHAnd happy national day uhghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uuQgZrSRt0
>>538916947>>538918296oh you were talking about china not the u.s./eu I guess
Italy sending two guys and our fagged out commie larper presidentahimè
>>538918187>deflation makes their pile grow while they sleep.You have no idea what bonds represent if you think this.
>>538918285>Chinx are deflating intentionally right nowCope. Chinx flushed down their economy growth for political reasons and now have to pretend it was a deliberate choice to save face.
>>538918274I'm curious if we sent any to participate, I didn't see any flags when they were walking past them earlier.
>>538918329US currently house prices are starting to drop. In my area about 50k$ cut compared to 2 years ago.
>>538918285>Unlike r*ssia, chinx can actually exist indefinitely without outside helpA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Chinx are super dependent on foreign trade.
>>538918354Chinks want to be a producer economy. They cannot handle their currency getting higher or else the companies in their country becomes unprofitable.
>>538918281>the only thing you have left is to blame the Jews.jews are just symbolism here. it's the neoliberal system that is in place.who would have thought that capitalism also needs heavy govt oversight to actually function properly.
>>538918062>Parading tanks>Take notes, RussiaAs if Russia needed to do something as trivial as this to somehow establish its military might.This pathetic flexing is more proper for weaker western tranny countries, who think they are somehow militarily relevant
>>538918366can't say the same for europe, it's up only - maybe lots of people leaving the rural areas in u.s. make prices go to shit because nobody wants to live there? but even if they go down a little now in bigger cities aswell - that's after a meteoric rise in price so what gives
>>538918355Oh yeah, there they are. Nice. Never giving up on that forest camo.
>>538918316>beyond obviously and painfully unprofitable businesses that were chugging along loan off a loan back to back like some broke ghetto nigger.That's the thing if unprofitable businesses exist and can't pay off their loans then that means the economy is having issues. This also works for consumer credit ie debts.
Wall-E assaults Russian positions
Love a good Super Hercules
>>538918222You're just and angry chink lmao. I did that to you.>>538918239The US has over a trillion dollar defense budget, and that excludes black book. Be serious bro. We both know the answer. Ukraine is dependent on American intel and recon because there is no substitute. The intel agencies of Euro countries basically spy on the US to figure out what we know, and spy on America's enemies so they have something to give the burgers.
>>538918285>People simply consume LESSPeople consume WAY less anon. Just think about it for five second. You know that if you have a dollar in your pocket, and it will be worth two dollars tomorrow, are you going to spend it today? Of course you won't.If you have a company, your money is now making money on its own. Are you going to use it to hire an employee? No you won't. If you are an investor, will you exchange your value aquiring money for stock? No you won't. Deflation means money stays in the bank and nobody buys but the bare minimum. The economy fucking dies, commerces close left and right because economic activity stop making sense.
>>538918417No man my little town aka 1.3 million people are seeing the drop in house prices. This is because US is facing a recession even if we don't admit it. generally house prices fluctuate alot since people move states all the time for better jobs so shit places see deflation and other places see inflation in pricing with housing. My place is seeing despite its growth entirely due to people moving back into apartments which are cheaper than housing per month. They are losing their jobs and housing. Its getting rough rn.
>>538918464looks better with guns on it
>>538916856Did they seize the Sims discs?
>>538918434always cringe when I see those gayass rubber pads on tracks and it's always the wrong sand variant.ukros where removing them to increase grip but tracks don't last when used like that. not that in matters in ukraine where tanks last week or two.
>>538918273>which allows more companies to compete in the market which lowers prices9 times out of 10 the "lowers prices" is just a cynical dumping scheme to screw over competitors, corner the market and then jack up the prices even more, but retards can't think about cause and effect or for longer than 5 minutes. Pricing of most products comes down to regulation, taxation, manufacturing techniques, costs tied to additional shit like licensing, political shit, logistics and so on. People are retarded to shit. I honestly think kids in school need to be forced to run a business or something, because it seems otherwise they won't figure out even the basic shit.
the marching Ukrainians were squared away, very niceare the russians invited?
>>538918495I'm not discounting that the US has a lot more budget but if we're just talking about making a good mirror and throwing it into space there's nothing in that that the EU couldn't accomplish just with French rockets alone. You don't need many of them to have an okay spy satellite network and we've had at least 20 years to do this.
>>538918354We'll see, anon, but then I wonder what the copes will be when chinx have everything they want/need, and then everyone has to court chinx to get their shit.Xi is clearly running circles around pynya. He knows what he's doing.
I'll bake.
>>538918444That doesn't mean we should keep them alive on life support forever. Let them go under and liquidate their shit already.
>still babbling on about inflation
Now the military schools are parading.
>>538918456I pray it actually plays a loud audio clip of 'Waaalllll-eeee' as it unloads entire clips into 5 ziggers.
>>538918499>are you going to spend it today?If I need food today? Yes, absolutely.Like I said, people still spend. I may not spend my dollar today, or tomorrow, or even in a month, but once I have enough dollars saved up, and I know they're only going to become more expensive with each passing day, why not spend some of my savings to get myself something nice?It works both ways. Endless inflation is how economy "dies" too and how you end up with millions of these useless gay companies doing nothing except providing some vague "service" of use to nobody.
>>538918686>>538918686>>538918686Baked, get in.
Look at all the soldiers of these GLOBOHOMO-infested westie countries! Everyone knows the west is JEETED and BLACKED but all their soldiers are WHITE! There are only seventy thousand (later increasing to several million) jeets in Russia but the Russian army has REPRESENTATION! Muslim chechens are going to be on the front lines of the temporarily delayed stroll to Kiev! BASED Russia that's EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT WHITE isn't trying to HIDE it's tiny tiny tiny minority population!Cringe troon hohol french froggy copefest parade!
>>538918388It's not just a currency thing for them. Their shit currency isn't a normal currency either way. The big issue for them is that: - some of the elements of their prior economic growth are basically running out;- they are running into the time bomb issues of the prior communist policy;- and this is compounded by retarded political ambitions fueled by them moving away from the political power rotation and sliding back into personalisitc autocracy;- with people seeing how the retarded politics mess up things, so a lot of the people who previously exclusively made business with them are running to setup business elsewhere;
>>538918553>9 times out of 10 the "lowers prices" is just a cynical dumping scheme to screw over competitors, corner the market and then jack up the prices even moreThere has to be some initiative that would force companies to make more in order to earn more profits instead of just seeking equilibrium between high price and lower sales/production.
>>538918635>chinx have everything they want/needYeah-yeah, and "what they need" will be determined by the party official. Been there, done that.
>>538918456The gap between capabilities in this war is just getting stupid now. Russians in a house trying to steal a toilet getting machine gunned by a couple of robot soldiers and bombed by drones.
>>538918499>Are you going to use it to hire an employee? No you won't.People literally don't see how the same thing fuck ups the labor market in many European countries, which have too strong of socialist "labor protection" policies.
>>538918696>If I need food today? Yes, absolutely.Yes, food, water and shelter. That will be the amount of your spendings and you will seek to reduce them because you like having money.Now there are new problem arising. You see, the supermarket that sells you the food, it has investors. Those investors are now losing money because their dollars are locked into stock. They like having money too, so they will seek to divest. The supermarket dies in short order because it needs capital to stay alive and capital is mechanically sheltering in the bank.>Endless inflation is how economy "dies"Instability kills the economy, both ways, yes. Inflation is a flat tax that kills the poor and those whose assets are stored in currency (as opposed to stock and bonds). If you're elon musk and your value is stored in tesla shares you dont gaf. If you're a boomer and your value is stored in dollars you're proper fucked. Both inflation and deflation are shit. The best state to be is having a stable currency with 2-3% inflation so spending is encouraged but money is a stable store of value
>>538917976You have to remember debt exists.Inflation reduces the value of money, which means it reduces the value of outstanding debts as well. Interest rates are tuned with the assumption that some of the debt will be inflated away.Deflation increases the value of debts over time. This crushes the whole credit system a modern economy is built on. Borrowing money is easy, borrowing goods is hard. When inflation is happening, interest rates can be adjusted. When deflation is happening, there's no lever to pull that fixes this. It's very painful.If you are not wealthy this is even worse for you, because most likely you are in some kind of debt. Auto, home, medical, etc; or you pay rent to someone who is, who will pass the cost to you. Or you depend on businesses which depend on loans, and own mortgaged properties.
