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How can we accomplish on achieving a peaceful, fair society with minimal or no suffering?
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>>539282371
make women property
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>>539282371
More bombings abroad and free testosterone
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>>539282371
Evil people will never let that happen. you would need to start with mass executions of these demon worshipers. good luck with that.
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>>539282371
>minimal suffering
Pretty easy if all anons apply themselves to business and investing to a reasonable degree. Never mind people beyond anons. The finances are there but even people who like the idea often get distracted living luxuriously with their newfound wealth and nothing ever happens.
>no suffering
That's on its way but it will be accomplished by very different people than those who are alive today.
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>>539282371
>peaceful
Is "peace" at the barrel of a gun actually peace?

>fair
Who is determining what is "fair"? Having spent 15 years here arguing with people; most the arguments between people here are because the two sides are talking past each other since they use completely different presuppositions to construct their view of reality, and so even if they're using the same words, they're often speaking different languages. To a communist, "fair" means everyone getting the same, and nobody being allowed to sequester from the public anything which allows for advantage over others (e.g capital). But to an AnCap, "fair" is everyone being able to seek self-manifestation without the hindrance of arbitrary rules, and without anyone telling them what to do. Which version of fair are you talking about?

>with minimal or no suffering?
Suffering, or rather it's sources, are the external stimuli by which we measure change, growth, and adaptation. A society without suffering is a society in which everyone is permanently a medicated zombie, unable to feel. Pain is the signal that something is wrong, with emotional pain being the signal that something is wrong in the abstract (e.g depression is your brain telling you that your environment is bad for you and that you need to get away and go somewhere else).
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>>539282371
national socialism except the leader is some sort of AI (real AI, not LLMs trained on reddit posts). re-education camps for the populace, and extermination camps for the unteachables (proles, jews, etc.)
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>>539282371
By going for the root of the problem. Who is the biggest supporter of suffering?
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>>539282758
>A society without suffering is a society in which everyone is permanently a medicated zombie, unable to feel.
>unable to feel
Lol nope. You would feel good, all the time.
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>>539282371
I propose a new system. Optimalism. In this system everything works properly, as it should, so that nobody can get hurt as a result of things not working properly (like it is now). We should be only doing things that do not result in anyone suffering, the good things. All is good.
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>>539282371
Freedom of Association.
>Access to White People is not a Human Right.
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>>539282903
No, you wouldn't. The absence of suffering would necessarily suppose the absence of pleasure. The scale isn't between pleasure and pain, the scale is between feeling and not feeling.
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>>539282846
The IRS



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