How kino would this be?
Wouldn't this require the EU to become a federation? They'd give the passports to all the turkroaches and jeets anyway so eh
Take it from me, retaining your national identity is for suckers. Once we're all the same shade of brown we will all be much happier.
>>539479304How is it even remotely kino?
>>539479304Very kino if Mosley's vision of "Europe a Nation" was realised. He was post-ww2 Europe's only hope for survival in a period of continental politics where petty nationalisms would drag us further down into the abyss. He was one of the few European nationalists who supported the idea of the European Union. Its a shame what the EU ultimately became. If this lad had his way the EU would be a great thing, with his ideas of pan-european nationalism being brought to life. An actual union of Europeans where migration would be restricted to Europeans and everyone's national character would be preserved.
>>539479304AMAZING, I WANT TO LIVE IN A GIANT SUPER-STATE TOGETHER WITH ALBANIANS, BULGARIANS, ROMANIANS, GYPSIES, AND ALL THAT OTHER NON-WHITE FILTH THAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC CONTINENT AS I AM!
>>539480122>where migration would be restricted to EuropeansTHIS! Don't you enjoy don't gypsies from the Balkans and Baltic niggers on your street? They might not speak your language, but they are our fellow EVROPEANS!You want nationalism?Globohomo wants globalism?How about we meet in the middle and turn the Continent into a mixed cultures gray soup?Yes, a Spaniard and a Polack are two very different cultures, that do not even share a language and you can tell apart by their looks alone... but they are both EVROPEANS, so they should mix together and eradicate each others individual culture to form a new continental homogenous race.
>>539480243>>539480419OK, OK, what IF, hear me out, what IF we apply eugenics and ethnic cleansing to gyppos... Would be you be fine with pan-Europa then?
>>539480473Oh yes, then lets selectively exclude gypsies!Let's create a gray soup without culture, full of people with no identity, where a Swede, a Polack and a Spaniard become the exact same thing, as they racemix and merge together! BUT we exclude the gypsies, THEN its fine!
>>539480419Yeah... They are not the same as the rest of us lol. I think thats where some kind of screening would need to be employed to "filter" out the gypsy, turkish, and inbred undesirables lol. But his original plan only spanned across north-western Europe for the most part.>you can tell apart by their looks aloneThat's where we would need to recycle some of the ideas Himmler and his SS had regarding "untermensche" and eugenics. unity amongst those in scandenavia and north-western Europe shouldn't be a problem however, but as we gradually expand the scope to include southern and eastern Europeans, we would have to examine them individually to see if they are ethnically european or half-mogoloid or whatever. We'd probably need to seriously limit migration so as to prevent a cultural mix.
>>539479304we already have this???
>>539479304Oh boy, even more niggers!
>>539479304You feling suicidal yet?
>>539480700Seriously.... you people are such idiots.Currently i can drive 200km north and i will experience a different culture with a different language. They are the most Atheist country around and full of whores, but still, it is different.Or i drive 300km south and again i will experience a different culture full of lazy people.Why do you hate this so much? Why do you want to mix us together, and by doing so, eradicate those differences? Because we have thousands of years of history?Tell me:What is the benefit?For what reason?How does anyone profit from this?Even if the EU would only be Germany + France and you eradicate those two by merging and mixing them together, i would still judge this as wrong, as a net-negative, as a loss.
>>539479718Silence peasant. Back to the thirdie line.
>>539479304>>539480122Europe, but as one nation>slowly adds states over time by population milestone and developmental achievementit's settlerism / settler property theory (SPT)
>>539479304Looks like a prison state passport.
>>539479304go away jew.
>>539479718>>539479639>>539480733>>539481088>>539481352You wish you were European.
>>539479304Basically already is that, hence why some inbred gyppo in Romania or Bulgaria has to problem taking the train to Rome or Paris to pick pockets at the train station.
>>539481369>wishIf I wanted to get my "european" passport I just have to go to the embassy near me to do so.
>>539480881Fine, I guess the we'll all remain up-for-grabs for larger countries like Russia, USA, and China to individually pick off.How do you think countries like France and Italy even came to fruition? There was a time when indistinguishable people from neighboring villages would knock each others blocks off who are now both English. Ask yourself these questions. Ancient Greece was destroyed by infighting amongst their own tribes. We dont't have luxury of such a choice anymore, we just dont. I don't hate the fact that there are borders. Seperation of cultures and nationality is healthy, im not against that at all. The idea of mixing never entered my mind, only unity against external threats like the Arab world, the US, and Russia (then the USSR). Although, if the issue of mixing is really that important, we could've had something similar to NATO but with only European states as its members (exlucding America).We (Europe) are going down to exactly the same fate that destroyed the civilization of Ancient Greece. Greece fell due to infighting. A civilization which was capable of creating UNMATCHED magnificence, the wonder that was Greece, was destroyed because they could not realise the brotherhood of Hellas. They destroyed themselves... and it seems we will too even after having survived two world wars which resulted in two holocausts of Europeans.
>>539481594There will be no meaningful conventional warfare in WW3.Europeans will not die for their economic area.There will be a brief scuffle between professional soldiers and then nuclear exchanges.
>>539481892No, but if we had realised Mosley's ideas long before now (50 years ago) we could've had our own nuclear warheads, more of our own technologies, and not just be puppets for either Russia or America. I don't necesserily mean all out warefare. But now we rely on shit from China and companies which are all based in America rather than being truly independent and having our own stuff.
>>539479304?
>>539481892And of course, no third world invasions
>>539479304Leaving the EU and a civil war would be way better i say.
>>539481369I am european already. even have an eu passport
>>539481594>but but if we mix into a soup, we are strong!nigger, we are getting weaker ever since the EU exists!Western Europe alone, those few countries, had 33% of the world wide economy in the 80s. Now the whole EU, which many more countries and more than triple the population, has 15%.Europe was strong while it was made up of different separated countries. We ruled the world.We are weak and pathetic as a castrated mixed up super-state.
>>539483208Globalisation has annihilated Europe. All of our industry was gifted to China.All of our jobs and welfare are being sucked up by niggers, arabs and indians.
>>539481594>The idea of mixing never entered my mindHow could this not enter you mind?When you go out on the street of any city in any Western European country, the vast majority of foreign immigrants you see are from the various Eastern European hellholes.50% of the Polnish <25yo youth wants to move out of Poland, given the chance. They produce refugees on mass. And you see them everywhere.If you don't see the damage this does, you must be blind.>we could've had something similar to NATOAnd why would i want that?If Poland starts some shit with Russia, i don't want to enlist for them. They should fight it themselves. All those alliances only promote an "i can start shit, because others are bound to help me" mindset. You don't avoid a war with this, you promote it.
>>539479304Hell no.I don't want the same passport as Eastern European shitholes.My Dutch passport gives me privileges because every border guard understands I'm from a 1st world country.
>>539479304Fuck your European Union. Death to communism, nuke Brussels, total EU collapse in 2 years
>>539479304How kinoer would this be?
>>539479520You lost WW2 tranny. Lol. I ACHE for the DEATH of all whites. But not before I have the chance to rob many of you, violently, while kicking your face and demandibg reparations for all the evil you have done
>>539483208Mosley was quite vocal about your concern when it comes to the "soup" of cultures. He stated he didn't want cultures and nationalities to be eradicated in some mixed melting pot of multiculturalism. In his own words: "Europe a nation, meant quite simply, Europe with its own government. A government which would fulfill all major purposes, but it did not mean a universal mix-up. The loss of all our national characters, turning Frenchman into Englishmen, or Englishmen into Germans or Italians, or anything else. Anyone who is mad enough to try to do that could not possibly succeed."Observe how the constituent states of the UK have retained their national identities while being in a union. He argued "The only possible security we can have in the modern world of continental politics, is to have one great big union in which we can preserve our national identities."
>>539485251oh fuck off with your discount-Kalergi>he didn't want cultures and nationalities to be eradicated in some mixed melting pot of multiculturalismBut that's exactly what you get with "Pan-Europeanism" because we were never in our history the same. Mixing us together eradicates us. You create something new that never existed, that has no history, that is soulless and that nobody can identify with.Now i ask you the question again:For what reason? What is the benefit?So that i can enlist when Russia attacks Estonia, because Estonia allows Hohols to launch drones from their country?Really?Just go and die by yourself, you idiot.You whined about>Europe is getting weakerBut fail to make the logical connection that it is getting weaker BECAUSE of the EU, Pan-Europeans make us weak. Everything goes to shit ever since the EU exists... and your solution is: "Oh, we need just more EU! The real EU has never been tried"Point a gun to your head and pull the trigger, you disgusting continentalhomo. You despicable person who wants to compromise with people who want to see us gone.
>>539485732>For what reason? What is the benefit?My reason would be the ability to produce basically anything independently, which would include nuclear weapons. If the EU was more of a nation under a true leadership rather than a mere zone headed by a zog woman that didnt outsource to China, we would have more factorties, our own firms (not fully relying on companies based in America) and a better job market. This would foster innovation and also lead to us being able to have a competitive edge in technology since we would be able to invent our own shit then. For arguements sake, the airbus was invented through a collabortive european effort by EEC members and would've failed had it not been worked on by these european countries. We would instead be relying on boeing planes from America (which are known to crash a lot). We would've amassed thousands of warheats which could've been a detergent against russian attacks, so they would likely not attack Europe as it would be stronger than it is now.
>>539479304So they can outsource our government jobs to Jeets working minimum wage in shitholes like Spain?
>>539481369Bucharest is a giant Latin American favela town.
>>539487377>to produce basically anything independentlyweird, before the EU multiple European countries could do that. Ever since the EU, they can't.>true leadershipWhat is a "true leadership" if you are living in a super-country that includes vastly different cultures geographically separated from each other?Lets say we have a super election and the majority votes for Von der Leyen but all the French vote for Macron and Von der Leyen wins, don't you think the French would feel like others are forcing their will on them?Such super-states, as Democracies, always necessarily result in race-mixxing and the eradication of culture. Otherwise you would have immediately Seperatist movements and a civil war.>would foster innovationNo it wouldn't, because you wouldn't have any reason for it.You wouldn't be working together as a nation for the betterment of your nation... because your country is some continentalhomo super state and all your taxes go to some Eastern European leeches.Nobody could identify with this. Nobody would fight for it.
>>539479304The real kino passport.
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>>539479304The new banknotes look ass
>>539485732>Just go and die by yourself, you idiot.Mate, im not trying to wind you up, the current EU is shite. The "union" in reality is killing us, I agree. Ive felt numerous times like we could be better off without it. What you say holds a lot of merit. The idea simply appealed to me because I listened to that lad's speeches and it sounded very uplifting lol. I felt it would benefit us unironically where the russians (then the soviets), americans, arabs, chinks, and other mutts all have hard-ons for us. Its the age of superstates, after ww2, no single European country would possibly be able to defend this continental bulwark which is Europe from being penetrated further.>>539488101In my mind, I thought that as we transitioned into the era of continental politics that it would require a continental solution, as America would gradualy start to dominate the markets with all of their firms, inventions thanks to nazi science they plundered, you know, to prevent being used as the main playground for powers for Russia and the US to for proxy fights both economically and militarily.>What is a "true leadership"One which acts in our true interets, I felt a man like Mosley being in charge instead of Von der Leyen would be true enough, a well-spoken man male leader who was clearly an actual opponent of zog, being frequently attacked at his rallies, censored, and jailed. Perhaps I was a bit of an upstarted and overeager advocate since much of what he said sounded rational and uplifting but in practice, the leadership structure would probably be such that it would be reminiscent of the EU presidency that rotates every once and among member states.
>>539485135Based, death to whitoids
>>539490450>the current EU is shityes, and you keep on listing negative consequences we got from the EU.And your solution isn't to disband and abandon the EU, but to get an EU-on-steroids and to take even more sovereignty away from the individual nations.Your solution is literally:>the EU is not REAL pan-european, REAL pan-europeanism has never been tried!Can you answer me one question:If Russia attacks Estonia (they have plenty of reasons to doso), do you want to enlist to fight for Estonia?Do you identify with Estonians? Are they your fellow Evropean brothers?
>>539490450>One which acts in our true interestsThat's impossible in a continentalhomo super state, because we do not have the same interests.We are different cultures with different values. Our interests clash.Like some Eastern European is rabid and wants to die in a trench for Selensky and wants war NOW.I don't want war, i want cheap energy and mutually beneficial relations. So our interests clash. Massively.In fact, i think that Russia is a more beneficial partner to me than some random Baltoid or Balkan hellhole that never contributed anything.Russia has things to offer that benefit me, Latvia doesn't.
>>539490799most eastern europeans support Russia
I voted for Brexit but if I could push a button and magically remove all economic barriers between all EU + UK countries and have a based single Euro government, even if it's in Brussels, then I'd do it. But the EU is currently pure shit and isn't going to get better.
>>539490450I assumed that had he got what he wanted he would handle the ins and outs of the "Europe a Nation" matter like cultural mix ups, leadership structure, leeches, etc.Circuling back to the culture issue, I was a bit naive to think that a feasible solution could've implamented to combat said issue through some kind of nuermburg esque laws that would impose some hierarchy or divide Europe into coherts like one for slavs to move around in and another for latins like spaniards and italians but I admit this is the product of me thinking naively. Racial policies only work when its a single country I guess.>>539490799>do you want to enlist to fight for Estonia?Of course not, but do I consider them European? Yes. >Are they your brothers?I tend to see it like that due to European heritage. Yeah I guess.
>>539479304Fucking disgusting. The end of the EU can't come soon enough.
>>539492132>Of course not, but do I consider them European? Yes.But you want an "European NATO", so you would enlist and die for them, right?Otherwise why demand something like this?Estonia is currently allowing hohols to use their airspace for attacks on Russia. So if those drones should actually become an existential threat to Russia, Russia will necessarily have to attack Estonia.In this scenario, you would want to die in a trench for Estonia?
>>539479718King if you like licking Bolshevik boots
>>539491015>Like some Eastern European is rabid and wants to die in a trench for Selensky and wants war NOW.The more I ponder this I realise, yes. Maybe its the propaganda or maybe its just me, but I sort of intuitivey Ukraine is better than Russia since they technically didnt start the war but they are also corrupt as hell and are probably slightly better than Russia due to genetic constitution (they seem less mongoloid and rapid but still rapid nonetheless).
>>539492282I'd imagine Estonian politicians will do whatever they are bribed or blackmailed into doing. Not like they're the ones going to the trenches when the real party starts. Is there any concrete data on what Estonians actually think of this?>>539492397>Maybe its the propagandaIt is. Ukraine and Russia are both hellholes.
>>539479304i think there is an EU mentioned somewhere on passports alreadyyou could flip the concept, make all national passports happen to look the same EU design, but technically are still national at the legal level
>>539492397So why aren't you fighting for Ukraine right now?Half of the EU countries are corrupt. Your own country is corrupt. So the corruption in hoholland can't be the issue here.Ukrainians are your fellow Europeans. Yet you watch them die and do nothing?Do you really need a continentalhomo super state to force you to enlist? Can't you do it without an order, by yourself?Remember that if you want the EU, the European continetnalhomo super state, to capture whole Europe, you will have to fight and win this war.
>>539492282>But you want an "European NATO", so you would enlist and die for them, right?Yeah I was thinking something like a federation initially. >In this scenario, you would want to die in a trench for Estonia?No, but I could become a drone operator lol. Even with that career path being open to me id probably prefer not to kill other Europeans, and also because what the situation is with both sides not being exactly "good".
>>539492707>No, but I could become a drone operatorSo you would fight for them, you just think that you could choose your role.Now the question is... what makes an Estonian different to an Ukrainian?Both are Eastern European hellholes that contribute nothing.Why aren't you an epic drone operator in Ukraine right now? They need men. They need men so hard that they have to force conscript and kidnap men on the street.Yet here you are, a pure blooded continentalhomo who wants to fight for European values, and you don't do it?
>>539492707>id probably prefer not to kill other EuropeansIt is impossible to establish your continentalhomo super state without war.Your very suggestion necessarily needs a war and your first reason, when asked why you want that, was some type of European NATO... so again: Its about war.Its war war war, death and destruction, from the very start to its very purpose.Imagine just how much blood it needs to crush all emerging separatist movements within your continentalhomo state.
>>539492851As much as id like to play with drones on the frontline, that still entails killing other Europeans for - frankly - no good reason. Its just the situation we're in right now. I leavenow for Ukraine/estonia, some jeet takes my place. Its the same in Russia now, except they get forced. If this was the 1940s then yeah lol, no questions needed. I tend to slightly root more for them due to their alignment with the west. But not enough to actually go there, my answer would be no.
Glory to the EUSSSR
>>539493114Your fellow Europeans are dying right now already.And they die for webm related.The whole war wouldn't be happening without those empty promises of continentalhomo.Those Europeans are dying because of your very own ideology.The start of the war was literally some bullshit paragraphs added into an EU association agreement by the EU.Your ideology wants to wipe out Europe. Both by war and by racemixxing.
>>539492707>Yeah I was thinking something like a federation initially.of course you do, only the nafo troons are spamming federalization.globalization and universalization gained pushback so theyre trying federalization insteadits only to turn european nations into goy slave armies to serve jewish interest as vasal states for america.
