>Boris Johnson: Xi’s idea that America is the sinking Sparta and China the rising Athens is rubbish.>China is Sparta, a closed autocratic society. America is Athens — open, democratic and free. The world is not simply seeing US decline and China’s riseDoes Boris know that Sparta won the Peloponnesian war?: https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/2088355761395024023
>>540817679>not simplybut they are seeing it
>>540817679If this analogy were true, I'd root for China.
USA is a jewish theocracy
>>540817679If you have to say it
>>540817679Oh he's doing his history gimmick again. We've seen this act for years in Britain. Did he mumble something in Latin and ruffle his hair?
>>540817679compare the poorest chink state and the poorest usa state.Which one has better road and infrastructure.
>>540817679The spartans kept helots, who were native slaves that made up most of the population, like how communism works. The athenians kept metics, immigrant labour that made up a third to a half of the population, like how modern capitalism works.He’s not wrong in a way.
>>540818160But the Spartans won
i am unironically hopeful for my shitty country. and even if we do fail. Ill stick by it. let china have their fun. i still prefer the west.
>>540817679>>540818175>win the war>decline anyway because you give all the money to picky foids who spend it all on shoeslol
>>540817679does he know anything?
>>540818274Thebes beat both Sparta and Athens afterwards, but was rekt by Alexander in the end.
>>540817679Boris Johnson is jewish btw.He said he's very proud of his jewish heritage
>>540817679China is Rome America is Carthage
>>540818432I'm glad that someone out there is willing to discriminate
>>540817679The collective west is the "Sacred" Band of Thebes. China is Macedon.Xi is better than Phillip II and Alexander combined because he wins without fighting.
Boris is cool
Reminder that this guy quadrupled immigration despite nominally being a Conservative and running on an anti-immigration platform
>>540817679Remeber the Boriswave? When the Brits voted to stop immigration and Boris increased it to never-before seen levels? The guy is a low IQ idiot at best and evil at worst.
>>540817679Both of these outlander niggers need to fucking read up the history prior making retarded claims holy fucking shit. Sparta was defacto leader of the greeks till the battered alliance from civil wars got conquered by barbarian Macedons then by Rome picking up the shattered empire of Alexander's.
There is no RISING ATHEN or FALLING SPARTA nigger both fucking lost by outside force because they refused to unite
>>540817679America is like a Bazaar in the Levant filled with semites
>>540817986Mississippi is absolutely full of niggers and meth addicted white rednecks. The only drivable roads are the federally funded roads. They are all niggerball worshipping baptists and boomers.
lol what does that make Britain Boris? Neo Kabul?
>>540819387>barbarian MacedonsFucking khazar rapespawn barbarian that migrated to Europe more than 1000 years later talks about the Hellenes and Romans.
>>540817986Its not about where things are, but the direction in which they are headed.America is in the spiral of death.
>>540817986China: Gansu Province (甘肃), roughly ¥52,825 / $7,300 GDP per person in 2024USA: Mississippi, the poorest state by many income/economic measuresThe surprising answer is that Gansu probably has better major-road infrastructure than Mississippi, despite being dramatically poorer.Gansu:About 159,000 km of roads as of 2024.Nearly 8,300 km of expressway/Grade-1 highways.About 95% of its counties had highway access.China has been aggressively building new expressways through mountainous and remote parts of Gansu.Gansu is still expanding its network: a planned package of roughly 4,550 km of new/expanded toll roads was announced.Mississippi:Its major highways are generally functional and extensive, but pavement maintenance is a significant problem.ASCE gave Mississippi's roads a D- in its 2024 infrastructure report.About 24.3% of roads with available pavement-condition data were in poor condition.ASCE estimates Mississippi has a $400 million annual road funding gap.Gansu's road network is an excellent example of China's ability to put first-world transportation infrastructure into relatively poor regions. The Chinese government has been willing to spend enormous amounts on connectivity even where the immediate local economic return is relatively low.Mississippi has the opposite problem: it possesses a much richer economy and a mature infrastructure system, but maintaining that system is expensive, and its road condition has deteriorated enough that ASCE gives the roads a D-.So if you're asking "Which poor region looks more infrastructurally developed when you actually travel through it?", I'd put my money on Gansu for highways and modern transport infrastructure, while Mississippi wins clearly in the depth and breadth of the underlying utility/infrastructure system.
>>540819529China is significantly better than the US in all fields including militarily.
>>540817679>Does Boris know that Sparta won the Peloponnesian war?I know Athens is the capital of Greece.But what is a sparta ?
>>540818175>points to Sparta on a map"oooee, look at all the big stone buildings...oh..."
>>540817679>Boris now resembles jabba the hutt. They all transform into the monsters they truly aware. Death my gluttony may come sooner than he thinks the nasty overbloated pile of demon excrement that he is. Now the mystery has been solved to why trump has so much Macdonald's available at any given time. Perhaps the new happy meals can come with boriswave era toys. > multidimenesional virus plushy> wind-up mechanical jollygog> special star backpocket bandana> ultimate rare limited edition mystery toyThese evil clowns deserve nothing but mockery and condemnation at every available opportunity. I've had enough of these sick and twisted demon possessed rat faced people and wish nothing but my worst possible nightmare scenarios for them!
>>540817679If USA didn't have illegals and is still 90% Christian white then sure you can still say that. But the reality is, USA is a powder keg waiting to explode into a civil war.
>>540819386Remember that time Boris told the operators of a charity zipline to leave him dangling halfway with 2 union jacks, because he had a "little bit mad" image to create?Pepperidge farm 'members.
>>540819593>>540819732Just look up all the modern day Spartan larps out there from gymbros, militaryfags and movies. When you mention greek hoplite, the first thing that comes to mind to anyone is a Spartan Hoplite with a Lamda symbol on his shield.
>>540819769I will fight for Germanic Pagan ideals
>>540817679>>540818376>>540818911This is ridiculous. People were calling the Cold War between the United States and Soviet Union the modern Peloponnesian War. Now, the are calling the "New Cold War" between the United States and China the "More Modern Peloponnesian War"? You can't have 2 modern Peloponnesian Wars.The roles are obvious:The Soviet Union/Russia is Athens (they lost)The United States is Sparta (they won)China is THEBES (third power that rose out of nowhere and beat the previous victor with help from the previous loser)Westoids don't want to accept or present China as Thebes and Xi as Epaminondas because of the implication (China will beat the United States).XI IS EPAMINONDAS
>>540819909Xi is Ghenghis Khan 2.0
>>540819909>XI IS EPAMINONDASAnd the muslims are the sea people.
>>540819909So who is Persia who helped Sparta win against Athens, and Alexander who beat everyone in the end?
>>540819994Iran.And ig wypipo are alexander
>>540817763ThisJudeocracy is current US ideology
Civnat democratic boomers should be gassed.
>>540819529chinese rural poor are growing vegetables and live as subsistence farmers who are also getting some money from selling surplus and from family sent home from the city. american rural poor are getting what? government funded slop and addiction?live for the lowest rung is going to be awful in both countries but maybe the china's poorest have it better than the america's poorest.
>>540817986Better question which has the lesser amount of niggers
>>540817679>America is Athens — open, democratic and freeWtf, do they even comprehend what they are reading? Athens was a maniac and there was no such thing as a 'golden age', go tell the people of Melos, Samos, Naxos, Syracuse, Thasos and others that Athens was an advocate of 'freedom'. They outright state that justice has little relevance when the two sides are unequal in power.
>>540817740yeah i got that to.
>>540817679Athens fucking had its Golden age before Sparta. What the fuck is he talking about? It makes even LESS sense in his version
>>540819909>The roles are obvious:Finding hundreds of different analogies is always easy. But here, the important thing is the outcome, not the process. And the outcome is the same: the "winning" side, no matter how much they actually won, but rather, they achieved a "moral" victory over their historical adversary, declares themselves masters of the world, the oceans, and the skies, and goes on a rampage, becoming completely insane. From the earliest times, the US can be compared to the British and French, who supposedly "won" the First World War, after which they began to consider themselves the undisputed rulers of the world.
How many American factories are in China:?How many Chinese factories are in America?
>>540817679He is sorta right. China is in a demographic freefall while US borders and embassies are all swarmed with people wanting to get in. Ultimately everything comes down to people and where they choose to concentrate their talents and wealth.
>>540817679The Talmud is the central tenet of Judaism.
>>540817679Also Athens was not open and free the way libtards think about it, only men with a certain status were allowed to vote, foreigners had very little rights. Libtards are wrong about everything
>>540817679Kaylee needs to earn at least 100kay a year with her useless degree in the HR department.
>>540821601We also need more lawyers that earn 500bucks an hour for looking at catmemes and they certainly dont charge all their clients simultanously when they waddle to the courthouse.
>>540821398They were already insane and suffering from a moral crisis, note the argument that Thucydides presents for when the Athenians decide to spare the people of Mytilene from mass execution, it wasn't because genociding their compatriots was morally wrong, it was because genocides "aren't a useful instrument for control" and would give their democracy a bad name pretty much. And this was a sign of a quite horrifying psychological crisis.
>>540817679>America is Athens — open, democratic and freeand gayer
>>540817679Isn't that the guy who imported more browns into britain than every other prime minister before and after him?
>>540817679>chinks winning any warsTypical 1pbtid
>>540817679Boris unironically receive a pretty solid education.He can recite the Iliad in ancient greek (there are videos of him doing it, and is pretty decent for someone who is not a linguist)
>>540818160Athens had up to a 30% of it's population made of slaves (of course this varied according to the era)
>>540821583That's why the US will only sink further by bringing turd worlders darker than coal in
>>540822377they beat you westoids in the korean war when all they had were pitchforks and WW1 sovieet hand me downsWhat are you gonna do now they have nukes, hypersonics and who knows what elseEver since 2022 official american wargames have them losing a pacific war lol. That's why US has been chimping out and trying to attack Chinese allies instead
>>540817679>jews still spreading the facade that the kiked states of muttmerica are the bringers of democracy and freedom
>>540822651According to Rostovtzeff*
You get a beeter insight by listening to your uber driver on any political topic, than some retarded british sellout polician.
>>540817679>China is Sparta, a closed autocratic society. America is Athens — open, democratic and free.>if free it means you will win cause ur the "good guys".Lol COPE
Good, people (especially Indians) should keep on marching to the US.
>>540817679Athens only allowed Greek males to vote. Everyone else was excluded.
>>540823737Still it was more democratic than modern west. Atenians once voted to end an attack once the ship has already been sent. Its something no representative would ever do. Because he needs to look decisive and save his izzat.
>>540817679The guy is a yank, and a wank.
>>540823863Things like democracy meritocracy, and all that stuff can only exist in universally European environs. The moment you introduce a single Afro-Asian-jew- whatever into that, it's physically impossible for it be be as such.
>>540823737The real issue is that the modern US style democracy is a corrupted version of the Roman Republic.Nothing other than a lazy cover-up for an oligarchy that's mass importing cheap labor.The issue being that there's no people with the moral caliber of the Populares left
>>540817679Boris is just ZOG, you have to praise the Jewish scam system or else
>>540824024I'm not really bothered by oligarchs, just that they need to be curbed and culled and kept in line so they don't entertain retarded ideas like proliferating or importing non-Whites for 'insert reasons'.Oligarchs in the West need to be collectively punished and a large number of the killed with their families. Why? Because you either accept national/racial interests and factor them into your business model or else you die after watching you women and children be tortured to death.
>>540823863also pic relatedVoting should be between the ages of 25-50 for White males with children only.
>>540817679That faggot is a kike. Of course he's going to glorify the greater israel.
>>540818175>>540818274Sparta lost. Athen coorporated with Theben and destroyed Sparta that big that we talk about Theben and Athene today but not of the City Sparta.
>>540824152Usually, the figure of a monarch, emperor, dictator... Had to relay on the support of the common people against the aristocracy/oligarchy and that balancd things out.We're seeing the end result of listening to the oligarchy in their pretension that having no power above them would bring "freedom" (original libertas which meant something very specific for the patricians in Rome, not being held accountable by a monarch)
>>540819839Then go on to tell them they were all homosexuals.
>>540824444checked and faggot pilled. Homosexuals get the rope.
>>540824387Elites were guardians. The job of a prince is to govern and protect their lands and their people by way of statecraft and warfare, and their most important skill is warfare, leaving little room for anything else in life. If they were good at their job and successful, they would sponsor artists, scientists and everything else worth its own while.A monarch has a monumental lever of power at their disposal, making them functionally equivalent to a Caesar of the given country, whereby a single Royal Edict could have certain people expelled or killed. This is the primary reason as to why Jews in particular prefer constitutional republics, because such a template installs checks and balances that prevent certain people from being targeted for removal.Oligarchs are glorified merchants. Merchants create nothing. Their existence is a medium at best and a parasite at worst.I mention the dynamic in Russia here:https://executiveconcern.substack.com/p/dead-water-d68Putin managed to push back on them, but they still run rampant.
>>540817679And who won Boris ? Who fucking won ?
>>540824444this kek. spartans couldn't get enough of buttsex with kleisthenes looking niggas
>>540817679Delusional dysgenic anglo
>>540824975Boris Johnson is Jewish.Technically 1/8th Jewish, an octoroon-Jew. Maternally, Johnson’s great-grandfather, Elias Avery Lowe, was a Jew born in Lithuania and the son of a schmutter (rag) merchant from Moscow, and Johnson’s grandmother (daughter of Elias), Frances Beatrice Lowe, was in the Lithuanian Communist Party. Paternally, Johnson’s great-grandfather was Ali Kemal, a Turk and the grandson of a Circassian slave girl.
>>540817679Chinks work 70 hours a week so they can exchange tangible products for US paper money that the US can print indefinitely.Anybody who thinks China wins with this system is a retard.
>>540825175Except chinese survived famines and horrors beyond imagination and still managed to rise on top.Can you imagine what would happen if america had a famine? They would implode in a bloody civil war and end up worse than the balkans.
>>540817679To think that fat sack of shit knows anything about sacrifice and warriors.
>>540824601>Oligarchs are glorified merchants. Merchants create nothing. Their existence is a medium at best and a parasite at worst.i agree with this but an oligarchy is still better (marginally) than a democracy. you can see it today. democracy is a complete shit show and only ever ends up with chaos. at least oligarchs (in general as Trump really does flirt the border with some of his shit) need stability and have some modicum of respect for order because if there wasn't it would put their own wealth and economic interests at peril. the idea that democracy treats all desires as equal (key examples being women and trannies) is super dangerous and we are already seeing society fall apart because of the long effects of total democracy. reduced voting rights, lack of rights for females, controlled migration and zero illegal immigration would have prevented this but here we are
>>540825694America has more productive farmland than any country in the world, Chinks have to import 70% of their food to keep themselves fed.Your fantasies are retarded, the dollar reigns supreme, Americans will remain fat and lazy, chinks will bust their asses in sweatshops to get us treasury bonds
>>540825799You don't need immigration regardless. And democracy doesn't work when it involves females or non-whites.
>>540825694china hasn't risen, others have just been lowered to their level
>>540825694The last famine in china was like 60 years, most Chinese havent survived shit besides being completely irrelevant as a country until like 30-35 years ago
>>540817679>Sparta won the Peloponnesian warYeah, which caused the collapse of Greek power across the entire world which directly lead to Greece being conquered. Sparta wasn't there to stop that since they immediately imploded after the war.Did you consider what you were typing or are you just so retarded you try to make every historical situation a metaphor by mixing together headlines?
>>540826005i worked out today and feel less nihilist than usual lad but i agree with your points. i hate women more than the next guy here. women's rights and feminism irrevocably finished society. niggers and shitskins need to go back (though the damage is probably already done). voting (even for white males) should be limited to a certain age bracket. zoomers are fucking retarded regardless of race
>>540825911And who do you think will farm the land? Just because someone has farmlands doesnt mean jack shit.America has a majority brown population, do you think browns will farm lands lol? At best the white population will farm while the rest of the nation burns in civil war, specially the big cities.This is not a fantasy, it is a fact, if americans dont keep their nation propped up and slip up for a second it's fucking over big time.
>>540817679Yes. The idiots really aren't seeing the blood on the wall
>>540826094Cope.>>540826101They existed for 5000 years and are now the second world super power....
>>540819529>>540820473Thats because China build trains to rise GDP. Many train tracks dont make money, still they used gold standard.But it connects places and helped to create jobs.
>>540826191Browns already farm land, they are the farm hands for white land owners. But 99% of farming is done with machinery anyway. If America becomes so brown that there are no white people to farm it, then wtf do I even care, they're no longer America, it's Mexico 2.I only care about white people starving
>>540826186non-whites have thoroughly contaminated the worldsending them back anywhere won't change anythingWomen are incapable of making sound decisions, only the few who temporarily do only do so because they are forced to take a masculine role in life, which doesn't last.Everytime I talk with zoomers and the like I get depressed. They are incredibly stupid and yet quite the zealots for "multiculti" nigger loving bullshit.
>>540820473you fucking shills are so damn weird. >we have the best poor people!!!!kills yourself
>>540826475Ok valid but the point of the thread is which superpower will fall first.America's biggest issue imho is that they dont have a ethnocentric populus and need to heavily prop up their nation because at the slightest inconvenience the races will be at each other's throats as evident already to some extent.
