https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2088665566219210852
>>540855820just wasting more money to further the dismantling of america to make room for WEF Agenda 2030
>>540855899dude dismantle all of the america who cares nigger whats even your point
this is based af WW2 america was peak aesthetic stay mad thirdies
>>540855820Usually I think every one of Trump's ideas are bad but this one might make sense. Going back to old school catapults might make the ship more secure in modern warfare. I mean think about it... electromagnetic launchers? That sounds like a vulnerability to mean. Same with computer systems. In the age of AI and digital dependence and drones and an arsenal of unholy unmanned warfare, going oldschool and analog might be the safest?
>>540855820Hitler did all this micromanagement shit too. It never worked. It's just egomania.
You retards fell for the bullshit story about the brawl and the guys jumping overboard the other day. Before that you thought he hid in an airplane food cart. You believed iran when it said it sank a carrier. You thought Trump was going to give iran $300 billion. What was it before that, and before that, and before that? More and more bullshit you faggots spam hoping to dupe retards into believing bullshit.
>>540855820and everybody clapped
>>540855820based trumptrannies keep seething
>>540857761Quiet down berg
>>540855820Fake
>>540857638You have no fucking clue what you’re talking aboutIf you did, your paragraph of uninformed speculation wouldn’t be filled with question marksEMALS has been in development for decades and works fine, trump is just a fucking retard that feels like he needs to redesign everything lest his presidential legacy be entirely Epstein, jeets, and Iran failure
>>540858189So what's easier for an attacker to render inoperable? A steam catapult or a modern catapult?
>>540858254Steam catapults by far. I’m not going to list all of the specific failure modes of the steam cat system but EMALS removes like half of the potential points of failure.Steam is also more maintenance intensive.
>>540858407will an EMP mess with the electromagnetic catapult?
>>540857761Quite!Iran owns you now!
>>540858497>he thinks there are no electronics in the steam catapult
>>540858497If you get hit by an emp it's curtains regardless
>>540857761Yeah, fr, their 9month tour of duty in the navy is about to be telieved and they had like an 84% reenlistment rate because the sailors in vombat zones get tax free bonuses as an incentiveSo obviously theyll reenlist for more dole, fuckin retards here lmaoMight as well be plebbit 2.0, nufags dont know how to utilize weaponized autism because they all outsourced their faculties to the talking heads and idols on demand chatbots, fuck sakesAnd nobody actually died that whole deployment: no accidents no nothing, that is itself nothing short of a miracle
>>540858666Aw shut i got the evil digits, Jesus Christ is King, theyre just numbers
>>540858497Not if it’s shielded, and a tactical EMP attack is:>indistinguishable from a conventional tactical nuclear strike>will disable a steam cat as well as the flight deck equipment if unshielded>will likely disable a steam cat for longer because the steam cat needs multiple other systems such as desalination systems
>>540858608>>540858626No it's not. An "EMP" attack does not mean everything is shut down. I would think some systems on a ship have backups and more protected hardware than other systems. I would think that the ability to launch a ship is one of the most important systems.
>>540858763ability to launch a plane*
>>540858733they probably have tech now to EMP things and nukes are clearly fake and gay.
>>540858763Hitting a carrier with an EMP is going to be interpreted the exact same as hitting a carrier with an AShM, i.e. the CSG is probably going to make you wish you chose a conventional warheadAny EMP that is not large enough to be something like a HANEMP is going to be intercepted by an arleigh-burke before it gets within 10nm of the carrier, and a HANEMP is a nuclear option which means you’ve wrecked space and pissed off millions of people and are going to get a strategic response most likelyEMP is relatively easy to shield against for military equipment, and has never even been proven to be effective relative to conventional strikes
>>540858626>If you get hit by an emp it's curtains regardlessEMPs are much less of a danger than people think. It doesn't automatically fry everything electronic, very few electronics would be permanently damaged. The biggest risk would be the electrical power grid because long power lines would act like antennas and then electromagnetic surge would fry a lot of transformers.
>>540858940They’ve had “tech” to EMP things since the 80s, it’s just not particularly effective unless your EMP is a nuke detonated at 200mi ASL and your target is miles of unshielded cable (power lines)
>>540858666Hello Satan.
>>540855820I don't know enough about carriers to take one side or the other, but they did move the island back a bit on the Ford. So it's not necessarily a return to WW2 style of carrier layouts unless you count the USS Nimitz in The Final Countdown.
Sounds like a fake story. Yet you will believe it
>>540859700>to take one side or the otherThe result of sane washing everyone. The dumbest most corrupt POTUS in history is talking about redesigning ships cus he doesn't care for their look. Anyone who doesn't immediately point out how bat shit retarded that is a subversive do truth and western democracy. Pls kys.
>>540859734That's because the man says so much retarded bullshit that anyone can claim he said or did anything and it'd be at least semi believable.
>>540859700>but they did move the island back a bit on the FordI'd assume there's some reason for that like better visibility, less likely to be hit by a landing plane and/or can squeeze an extra plane on the deck.
>>540857638They're admitting the electronic shit was a failure>>540857761People believe it because they hate our government (and the Jews who run it) more than they hate our enemies, and they're right to do so because our Jewish government hates us more than Iranians (or Russians, or Chinese) do.
>>540858407Lemme guess, you work for, or are a contractor of, the corporation that makes the electromagnetic system? And maybe we paid you only a feeeeeew more million dollars, you might get it to the spec to which we originally agreed like you were the first time?
Lose in style or something
>>540855820Anyone ever considered telling Trump no?
funny way of saying they downgraded
>>540855820
>>540858189Just refute what he said without frothing at the mouth, you emotional retard. You would have more credibility if you just corrected him with facts(since you are so sure of yourself) rather than just spazzing out and cursing like a downy mongoloid autistic pants-shitter
>>540860504Yeah the the way our government was designed was for that. Congress should be the one who decides what our military does. Not the president.
>>540857638Goddamn you miggers are fucking stupid
>>540857761Who is the collective you're referring to here Any 2 posts here have a 50% likelihood of being an israeli shitting down the throat of a corpse and somebody else calling death to all semites So who is "you retards". If you see one idea being shilled here you can usually safely assume just that.
>>540860895I'm not MAGA. I fundamentally disagree with Trump and the military. I'm just trying to think logically about the boat itself
>>540859878>redesigning ships cus he doesn't care for their lookOr could just be a return to an absolutely proven design.>>540860205Hopefully they had good reasons, but you know sometimes they just reinvent the wheel for hell of it and the new wheel sucks.
>>540861058You're not stupid because you think there's merit in an idea spewed by a retarded geriatric who can't stay awake for more than 10 minutes at a time, you're stupid because you don't know how electromagnets work and clearly have no drive to learn.
>>540861058You are a brainead migger and you aren't fooling anybody by denying it.
>>540857638>In the age of AI and digital dependence and drones and an arsenal of unholy unmanned warfare, going oldschool and analog might be the safest?It is a sound argument to be had. Hollywood often addresses things before they actually become a problem.
>>540855820Abandoning steam catapults has in fact been a huge fucking mistake, retard-sama.
>>540861163Neither do you. I bet you don't know shit about the catapults.
>>540860907>Who is the collective you're referring to hereThe jews. I thought this was obvious.
>>540857638there was a documentary about this. all of the new class ships were destroyed but the one with the older tech, called the galactica, survived because the virus didn't harm the ships older systems. trump might be onto something here.
nobody here understands the point of all this is just to spend money to keep our economy afloat. we literally need to create a trillion in debt every year or the economy implodes. we can change the carrier design to the old style then update it again to the new one next year. this is how we keep the boomers bags pumped and wealthy
>>540861492Refitting ships wouldn't be a problem if we were not up the ass of the entire world with Israel already. Imagine if we had a good fleet that just guarded our waters and didn't go to war in the middle east.
>>540861632you dont understand. going to war is necessary to keep the economy afloat. we need to expend those 500 billion missiles so the govt can buy more. if our govt doesnt spend 1.3 trillion per year the whole system implodes. boomers would lose everything. their retirement accounts and pensions would go bankrupt, the housing market would collapse, the banks would fail.
>>540861632Indeed. I thought we were finally going to get The Americas under control and put the spics in their place. We're still just killing Muslims for Israel and creating more non-White refugees for Europe.
>>540861830>the housing market would collapse, the banks would fail.
>>540855820why is he like that?
>>540861283Tell me more about how chatgpt can hack a magnet and when I'm done laughing at you I'll explain how these things actually work.
>>540860817Forgive me for being tired of people indulging the retarded whims of the make a wish president
>>540862040I don't have to explain shit and I never said I'm some kind of expert. Explain away mr. expert. I bet you are some retard bootlicking zogbot. Fuck you.
>>540855820Theyre just agreeing with the orange retard until he's out of office. Nothing Will be changed.
>>540858407It also adds approximately 9001 new points of failure. But redesigning an aircraft carrier is useless when hypersonic missiles have rendered carrier doctrine obsolete.
>>540855820How do you even begin to defend this? How do miggers even live with the embarrassment?
he also wants a new generation of BATTLESHIPS because he loves the old style aesthetic too.Dear Mr. Trump,Battleships have been proven obsolete since 1921 and the Billy Mitchell bombing demonstrations.Thank you for your attention.P.S. If it's not a submarine, it's going to get sunk within one week of the start of WWIII. And we shouldn't be so sure even about submarines either. It could be possible if difficult to trace their electro magnetic trails under the water from satellite sensors though if such a technology exists it's secret for now.
>>540855820By the time they finish building more of these floating coffins, they'll be even more obsolete than they are right now. Next gen of hypersonic anti-ship missiles isn't going to care whether the catapult is steam or magnets.
>>540862468>lasers>railgun
>>540855820America have very recently legally given command to all military operations to Israel. The crews of these vessels are all currently being treated as slaves enduring inhumane conditions. Maritime laws are constantly being broken and there are high risks of earthquakes and tsunamis and the world does not care.
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>>540855899>NOOOOOOO we should be red flavor corporate run economic zone NOT blue flavor corporate run economic zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>540862468That's not really a battleship. It's pretty much just another DDG.
>>540855820Why the US Navy is Replacing Electric Catapults with Steamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyo7PWWJ_x8
>>540862218>9001 new points of failurethat's a good way to put it, any time something is more complicated the more chances of failure. Redundancy and simplicity is always more reliable but at the cost of higher tech that offers better performance or efficiencies.
>>540855820Are they just trying to get it out of commission and make it unservicable so it can rot in a shipyard for 30 years never to get fixed?
>>540862496Plus the aircraft on those floating 5000 man coffins are obsolete too, apparently even the insanely expensive F35's. It's that Harley Davidson mindset. "Murrican Iron!". kek. I think America is turning into a nation of steampunk fetishists. So many dolts are amourous of everything WW2. It's like this glorious exploit that opened the world to them. Europe, the Pacific atolls, wonderful places to detonate giant radioactive bombs and fuck children on the cheap. Very smug bunch.
>>540862181Take your pills you tranny faggot
>>540858254>whats more easily made inoperable by gas shortages, the car or the horse?
>>540862784+1 shekel score
>war with Iran>lets remodel our carriers which will take time and money during wartimeCommander in Chief, everyone.
>>540862823Logical fallacy
>>540857638Sure maybe bring back muskets and horses too?
>>540858733Is EMP shielding really being reliability tested?I keep wondering about this.As a general principle, if it's not tested, it doesn't work.I assume that there are proper ways to test EMP resilience without an actual nuclear explosion. By using lower power emissions and internal sensors to confirm that the shielding reduces power by the expected proportion. Any wiring that penetrates the shielding, check what happens if you channel excessive power through it. Things like that.But, is this actually being properly done? Usually the military will do some REAL tests at some point. They will shoot a shell at a tank to see if it actually holds up. They will fire real missiles to see if AD can actually intercept. They will brutalize ruggedized hardware to see if it still works afterward. Can't do that with nuclear EMPs.Wouldn't be surprised desu if a nuclear explosion happens that half of the stuff that was supposed to be shielded ends up not really being shielded, for whatever reason. Could be caused by improper maintenance too, not just design/testing errors.
>>540862864>>war with Iran>>lets remodel our carriers which will take time and money during wartime>Commander in Chief, everyone.War is lost beyond recall.Hey let's fiddle around rearranging this and that. Keep busy doing this or that so no one will notice our massive war machine is useless now.
>>540859016EMP hardening is a real thing, especially in military hardware. Its actually not that difficult, especially in an aircraft carrier where its already underneath thick steel. It just consists of using proper grounding and shielding, overload suppressors. The thing with EMP is massive civilian device damage that isn't hardened, and also with power distribution systems where there are large loop areas.
>>540862944dude just look it up. https://milreg.com/File.aspx?id=3179
>>540862942Why are the steam catapults bad exactly?
>>540863061My cybernetik robots are totally EMP proof by their natural design. It’s extremely easy to accomplish.
>>540863158>yes saar we properly EMP shield all according to specification document saar we have document we implement allDrop a fucking nuke on it already. Let's see if it actually works.
>>540862655CGVN Version Two, Railgun Boogaloo.
>>540855820trump just doesnt understand how magnets work—
>>540862942With the way you reframed the argument, I'm thinking you might have ears below your eye line and an elongated septum. Tried and true technology is often used when a new weapon system fails to meet expectations. Sometimes we try to jump too far forward instead of taking the baby steps to improve our most important systems. The more of a technological leap you take, the more reengineering you're going to have to do while you work out the kinks. A lot of really great ideas fail when put to the test in reality. It's OK to admit when it doesn't turn out well and correct course.
>>540862942logical fallacy
>>540862592>muttistanis basically just admitting to being niggers
>>540855899Oh please dismantle the unholy sharts of weimerica please
>>540855899This is what the mass surveillance grid is for
>>540855820https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQfe1mCtxc>533 million artillery shell factory makes nothing and blames Turkish machines for failing
>>540862724Ww2 would be dieselpunk
>>540862944Most Navy ships are EMP proofed because they use sound powered phones, they barely have a working computer anywhere on them. Some ships still use Steam.
>>540855820Has anyone, anyone, thought of just telling him no?>>540857638Then why is he putting all the eggs in the a.i. basket instead of relying on AskJeeves and typewriters?
>>540855820Steam is a FAD. Wind is PROVEN! BRING BACK THE CONNIE CLASS!
>>540863902carriers are obsolete now emals or not
>>540855820Trump has gone full boomer.You never go full boomer.
>>540857638I'm sure it takes quite a bit of power to electromagnetically launch a fighter jet. As they implement more electronic weapons that power would be better used elsewhere. A lot of magnets too, which we don't have the raw materials for.
>>540863902The USS Constellation didn't have sails, nigger. Additionally, our nuclear game is on point.
>>540863802>Has anyone, anyone, thought of just telling him no?Yes. Conveniently they are no longer in his employ.
>>540861449Kek underrated.
>>540861263>>540861449I'm happy to see someone is on my page.
>>540864174https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constellation_(1854)its a scooner
>>540863761>Some ships still use Steam.China is so far ahead they use Epic Games Store onboard their ships.
>>540855899Everyone including Trump knows aircraft carriers are useless in a real war now
>>540855820Please Trump, bring back battleships and make Aerogavins real
>>540857761>You retards fell for the bullshit story about the "Holocaust"ftfy shlomo
>>540864577Which has nothing to do with carriers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constellation_(CV-64)
>>540864766A flying tank would not hurt my feelings in the least.
>>540855899We're already a third rate power economically beholden to China and militarily defeated by Iran.
>>540855820He's such a polymath.Greatest military commander of all time, warship designer, accomplished diplomat.A true warrior poet.
>>540855820>>540855899Its only cool if he modeled them after German WW2 carriers
Now Trump even wants a D-Day style WWII amphibious landing invasion of the strait, hahahaha motherfucker probably watches old movies all day like brain fried Howard Hughes used to in his hotel room surround by piss jugs. >>540864837
>>540864858Every day /pol/ points out yet another Jew that I had completely overlooked.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Simmons
>>540858497electronic devices are vulnerable to emp due to fragile semiconductor components. emals is electric, not electronic
>>540862029>I guess I'll go cry own my stacks of silver and suppressors I just ordered for my gunNOTWhy are you like that, you projecting faggot ass butt blasted jealous foreigner?
