The power of propaganda is incredible. You can force the populace into believing anything if you just repeat it ad nauseum; like the idea that this is a good painting. Whoever has power decides the truth.
you can make normalfags kill themselves or rape, murder others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_wars
>>540973092You wouldn't get it.
>>540973263You don't get it. Nobody "gets it". There's nothing there. You're only pretending.
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>>540973092>>540973263I can appreciate oil on canvas and admit how hard it is while also admitting that I really do think oil on canvas looks like shit babies would draw
>>540973092Some painters die unknown without a ear, others in a bunker. I've never learned how to paint.
>>540973282Van Gogh was a master traditional painter before he expiremented, that's why it's seen as legit and not bullshit like modern artyou can see the emotion in each stroke, the thickness applied in each stroke adds heaviness, at least that's how I view his paintings like >>540973263
>>540973092Former leftist here. I will let you in on a secret. They know they are putting you on, when they say it. The objective is to say they think its a great piece of art, in order to convince YOU to go along with what they have said. It is a con game. They know it. Their goal, is to sway you. And they think that what they do, is noble. They believe that the ends DO justify the means. Tgey want you and everyone to just go along with what they say. They wish to lead you along. Because they believe that what they do is best for you, and everyone else, in the end. No matter how nasty and dehumanizing the path is, to reach the endpoint.
>>540973371And Schönberg was a master Romantic composer. Doesn't make his atonal music anything other than the unimaginative trash that it is. To make art for the sake of "experimentation" or "progress" is bankrupt. https://youtu.be/pnAyMl-JXYw
>>540973092What did he mean by this?
>>540973371I can feel the loneliness of the person looking out into that field Most of the anons here are sociopaths
>>540973092have you any soul?
>>540973092Looks like hey arnolds bedroom
>>540973536Have you?
>>540973441>Former Leftist>I used to be an atheist Lies
>>540973580this looks like a zack snyder movie
>>540973282
>>540973497I think the right book always end up in your hands for sake of destiny. By example, if you read Toilers of the sea will notice that a man can do imaginable things to satisfy it's loneliness but then he might realize that he wasn't alone after spending real time alone unlike the count of monte cristo who had a perfect life ahead of him but was ripped cause men were jealous and greedy and he was a naive boy.Do you think people tries to warn you about things you shouldn't do before hand and can only count on your good judgement? Resident Evil by example is trying to tell us that playing with immortality might be a bad idea.
>>540973620You're just another pseud.
>>540973620>>540973580Kek get fucked
>>540973371No he wasn't. He was never technically remarkable. Certainly by no means a "master". People care about the story more than the works themselves. Impressionism as a style is just the visual representation of decadence and the loss of standards, a trend which has crept up on us since the industrial revolution.
>>540973703>>540973704I like Zack Snyder
>>540973703Looks like AI
>>540973618I was never an atheist. I said I used to be naive and easy to influence. Not that I was a congenital numbskull retard.
>>540973857It's not
>>540973894Looks just like it
https://youtu.be/VLR7s8Rq7Dw
>>540973857I genuinely don't believe you think this is bad art. It's obviously beautiful, and doesn't look any more like AI than Van Gogh. In fact Ivan Aivazovsky is a very well-regarded painter. You just want to seem intelligent, so you'll degrade anything that I post.
>>540973977Art isn't a contest.
>>540973977Nah it looks great, in a way only AI could do. Its so realistic it lacks emotion, so I think its AI
>>540973977See the way the tower juts out of the ship on the left randomly? That is an AI hallucination or something. Nice try buddy. Is this supposed to be a Turing test of sorts
>>540974077It's not actually realistic, even if it's a somewhat "realist" style, and it absolutely does not lack emotion. Van Gogh tends to lack emotion, if I'm being honest.
>>540973867That’s just an example of what it reads like
>>540974050What a vapid response.
>>540973092Everything you know is a lie, we know this already. The psyop is so complete even your thoughts aren't original.
>>540974125>>540974159You sound like you're an insufferable person to be around in real life.
>>540974125what’s the emotion?
>>540974196Look at the painting.
>>540973732>Impressionism as a style is just the visual representation of decadence and the loss of standardsNah bro. Theres lots of crap out there that calls itself "impressionism" but good work is undeniable. It's one of the most purest forms of design when done right
>>540974125Cool emotion
>>540974196Boats
>>540974125I don't see anything useful or good about it. The only painters worth anything are Chagall, Picasso, Matisse, Monet, Manet Warhol, Rembrandt, Raphael, Goya, and a handful of others.
>>540973092It's about the interpretation of life from the view of a person of average intellect.
>>540974247Anon’s on suicide watch
>>540974125And your OP painting is nice. the colors are special, the dreamy qualities unique to van Gogh are special, the fact that he did it before almost anyone.. It can stand alone and be interpreted. It does some like an Alice Neel
>>540974347Alice Neel- Light
>>540974347>>540974382Spring Lake - Alice Neel
>>540973282hint: its about the brush strokes
>>540974347>the colors are special>unique to van Gogh>special>he did it before everyone elseYou forgot the most crucial part: the painting looking aesthetically appealing or interesting.
>>540974451What about them?
>>540973977The problem with this painting is there are literally thousands and thousands of rough waters and boats paintings. Its nothing special to look at except for inspecting the technique
It's weird that OP picked a tortured suicidal artist who was completely unknown and unsung to try and prove whatever point he was trying to make.At least pick someone who actually was a nepo baby propped up by the system or something. Van Gogh was the definition of a true artist, whether one likes his work or not.
>>540974478If you care more about a piece being "special" than it being aesthetically appealing, you're doing art wrong.
>>540974457I think you have autism and can't understand abstract concepts. It looks appealling and has almost universal acclaim because it looks good.
>>540973092That's exactly what Goebbels said. And right he was.
>>540974513>I, for one, welcome our AI overlords
>>540974513That would come down to the very definition of what art may be.. Something that makes YOU feel something.
>>540974569Keep telling yourself that.
>>540974585Was that before or after he killed his kids
>>540974601Its one of the quintisesential dutch French color interiors of the late 1800s. The colors alone make it good.
>>540973479Van Gogh used AI
>>540974596And that definition is why art is dead.
>>540974677It looks like a child's painting.
>>540974613The mother of his children showed indescribable strength in choosing to grant her own children salvation rather than condemning them to grow up in a world that would be controlled by Jewish bankers. Just look at what they did to the Germans. A massacre. The children would have been brutally murdered had their mother not gently laid them to rest in eternal peace. It’s impossible to imagine just how incredibly hard that must have been for her.
>>540974677that rug really ties the room together
>>540974591I said nothing about AI.
>>540974682No. Art is dead because there are no more rigorous courses and the skills were lost from people not passing them down. The skills are lost and the art shows it. Not because our definition of what is art has changed. We accept what is put forth as new art based on what artists can produce. Its a shame that they aren't as skilled in many areas as they used to be. Contemporary art has many forms and not just painting.
>>540974730Dude.
>>540974728cool story, broI'm sure Hitler showed indescribable strength in ordering millions of his soldiers to not retreat and to rush into certain death instead
>>540974513>you're doing art wrongart is not an art
>>540974728I mean Goering and Himmler's daughters turned out fine.
>>540973092i would watch this cartoon
>>540974736I'm implying you're the perfect consumer of that future because you care more about the technical proficiency of art then the soul behind it. Literally everything you care about art can be replicated by AI. The one thing AI doesn't have is soul.
>>540974756>>540974682Art is alive and well in the lives of people whose souls arent trapped in a basket weaving forum
>>540974823Yeah and you arent making any
>>540974831Not making any arts?
>>540974756We don't teach people the same skills because we elevate bad art. It flows from the top. Or maybe they feed on each other, like an ouroboros. Either way, the proliferation of bad art has a negative effect. You can't push atonal music and expect people to like classical music. So people stop caring, and the art form dies.
>>540974769Ah, shut up, kike. You don't know shit. The Jews didn't dare to tell their own kids the same lies they told us back then, so Israeli teens “educated themselves” about the so-called “Holocaust” using obscure BDSM porn comic books. No wonder guys like you are so messed up, kek.
>>540974823The other problem with art is little shitheads like you who nobody told you that you suck dick at art and you will never be an artist. You should have been smacked down until you crawled home crying. >>540974849You don't make shit and I guarantee if you do its terrible.
>>540974866>>540974873
>>540974873yes anon, tell me about the arts. I’m fascinated by your perspective. Nobody knows arts like pol posters
>>540974818I never said anything about "technical proficiency", I said aesthetic appeal. And no, I don't think that's all there is to good art, but "soul" is ill-defined, and to define the quality of art purely on such nebulous topics leads to nonsense like the banana taped to the wall.
>>540974893Yeah exactly. You don't and have never made anything that can be called art.
>>540974929You've never made a damn thing that made anyone feel anything.
>>540974937Which is really more a critique of museums and curators or parody than it is an art piece.
>>540973092If all post-impressionist art vanished overnight, which segment of society would suffer?
>>540974937AI can replicate "aesthetic appeal" with 100% accuracy, and the fact that you think "soul" is a nebulous concept does not bode well for you.
>>540974981jewish new yorkers
>>540974968It starts with people like Van Gogh. A culture that has reached an artistic peak, and is subsequently searching for new horizons. But the only way to go is down. Modern art forms have their merits, but ultimately fall short of the art of the past. I think we need to accept that. It's just the reality of living in a civilization in decline.
>>540975009Once Upon a Time in the West, Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, etc. all hold up against classical art in my opinion
>>540974999>AI can replicate "aesthetic appeal" with 100% accuracyNot really, in my experience. It just delivers something that seems nice on the surface, but doesn't have much thought put into it when you examine closer. And I think that's the problem I have with AI art. A lack of attention to detail, a lack of caring. I think that "soul" is a core part of what makes art great, but it needs to be anchored in something. There's a balance to be sought in art.
>>540973092you have the power to suck cock so i guess you are just a faggot then
>>540975086Interesting how all of the films you chose are 45+ years old.
>>540974247Top movies your girlfriend want to watch:- feminist retard bitch cucks her husband and leaves him for Tyrone - power woman trip movie #617161525- girlboss movie #81727261561- why men are toxic documentary by Rosalinda Goldberg - why men are dumb documentary by Rosalinda Goldberg
>>540974756Digital art is probably dead.People forget what it feels like to see, hold, or own a really good 1 of 1 physical painting. Everything we consume is through a screen. Its fast and easy, flat. Digital can still be good but ai is closing in. A skillful painting, that is a real physical thing, actually has presence in a room, not all of them of course, but a good painting has presence, digital screens can never replace that
>>540975009>>540975086I think you're judging art too rigidly. Of course we have gotten worse painters since Goya, but Christian Rex Van Minnen does new things with textures on classical styles that are interesting. Lots of contemporary art is really impressive when you see it in real life. The value of art is also in creating something new. 800 years of the same style of paintings would get old.
>>540975185Yes of course you are right. You can look at 1000 paintings in an hour on Instagram and stare at 5 paintings in an hour at a museum.
>>540975138Film is a new art form in the grand scheme of things. I thought we were comparing now to hundreds if not thousands of years ago. There are more recent films that are also high art, but they're not as canonized yet. The Fountain would be a personal pick for me.
>>540973937sounds like you have schizophrenia
>>540973350Why didn't you make it and become famous if it's so ez
>>540975290Would look great in a cheap cafe
>>540975290Or on a free coaster at a pub
>>540975185It really is a completely different experience seeing art in person. I saw some Thomas Cole paintings in the Chicago art museum and it was so much more engrossing than just looking at PNGs.
>>540974569No it doesn't. It looks like a child copying a cartoon
>>540974728>>540974866https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/DE/service/kontakt/formulare/Kontakt_HinweisGeben/kontakt_node.html
>>540974613>>540974728Commies and jews both love to punish children and wives for defying them. It's part of their inherent non-whiteness to met out family and group punishment.
>>540975553He in large part helped create that style at the turn of the century transforming previous realism works like this into something dreamier.
>>540975621Vs this van Gogh made the year before the Camille Pissarro painting in my previous post. Van gogh had his own style
>>540973092His contemporaries didn't consider these good. Van Gogh lived on gibs from his brother.
>>540975835Layla got bad reviews when it came out
>>540974769It is sad that those of us who were born late did not have the opportunity to take part in the most glorious times of the German people, but we should seize the opportunity in the here and now to attack again and destroy the remaining descendants of our Allied enemies.
>>540975922https://youtu.be/mNYRfdnCFCI
>>540975884And now its one of the best american and British guitar albums that ever got made and the last of Duane Allmans recorded music
>>540973441That checks out. During my left wing days, the goal was always domination, not convincing anyone of anything. It was hard to admit to myself. I think a lot of us were leftists, it's probably why so many of us hate them so much. We know how they think.
>>540973282You're a brainlet. Keep coping though. Keep telling yourself you've figured it all out. Embarrassing, truly.
>>540974999Ai is depreciating media and entertainment, its becoming white noise. In less than 5 years it will be cooked
I like that painting more than anything posted in here.
>>540976375this looks like a tarot card
>>540973479The Talmud considers us cattle
>hylics completely lacking the ability to appreciate art, instead seeing the entire medium as just another means of exchange where all pieces must be easily comparable and ranked against one anotheranons, that which is essential is invisible to the eye - it can only be seen with the heart
>>540973092Canada is the mecca of propaganda.
>>540976678What is Mecca the Canada of?
>>540975884Boomer rock sucks objectively speaking. Layla is like listening to a jingle on repeat.
>>540977001post the music you do like so that every poster in this thread can unite in shitting on it
>>540977031NTA buthttps://youtu.be/six6ZSN1REw
>>540977069you bump this in the whip?
>>540977087desu classical isn't great in the car because of its high dynamic range
>>540973263gives me nausea looking at that gay shit.Barney Bubble's album cover artwork is better than that "masterpiece"
>>540977102not enough trap-influenced hi-hats
>>540974938>>540974957I deem you the king of art, Nigga
>>540973092True and normie-pilled. The realization few people make is that what convinces most people of something is not proof or logical deduction. It's somebody in authority telling them so, or it's a convenient belief for their life, or it's emotion. Analysis and reasoning is secondary to these methods of convincing, this is why science has such a problem with bias.In terms of 'art' it's a business like any other, and marketing is part of the business. Pic related, a diamond encrusted skull by Damien Hirst. When it went up for auction at the start of his career it sold for a massive sum to an anonymous buyer and was headline news in all news media. One week later a sole reporter followed up to try and uncover who the buyer was, only to find out that the sale had not actually proceeded despite the auction. In other words it was all a marketing stunt. You can convince the normies that something has 20x it's value just because it has a brand name on it, many such cases. Children, women and niggers are most susceptible to such tricks.
>>540977744You think people like Van Gogh because someone told them to?
Propaganda has no power, the power is in control over resources. Without the government holding your paycheck no one would believe in vaccinations
>>540973350>I really do think oil on canvas looks like shit babies would draware you retarded? There basically is no upper limit to how realistic you can draw with oil. Almost as soon as it was invented masters instantly recognized its superiority to tempera paints. The reason modernists like Van Gogh, Dali and Picasso got famous was because the realism angle was basically obsolete because of photography. If you just wanted to document a scene or take a portait, you'd just take a picture. The thing left for painters were exploring the areas that photographers couldn't.
>>540974247Books your girlfriend wants to read:>Girl gets fucked by dog>A pack of wolves rapes a girl>A girl cheats on her husband with her boss>A girl cheats on her husband II: with a dog
>>540973092>>540977105Mutt aesthetics>>540977744Don't compare Van Gogh to Hirst you disgusting philistine nigger fuck
>>540977884No. I like pizza but I don't ascribe it the value of steak. If you show most people a Caravaggio and a Van Gogh, I think most people would prefer the Caravaggio and be willing to pay more for it. It's not that Van Gogh is worthless, the value of his work is simply exaggerated for the art business purposes. There are only so many Caravaggio's in existence, and decades or centuries go by before one comes on the market. The art business need something to sell, so they create a market for lesser art.
>>540978223>modernists like Van Gogh,Kys
I have some arts. I shop in the price range of 1 art = a few hundred to a grand and a bit. You get a nice piccy for that. An old friend used to collect Lowry arts, i don’t know if foreigners know who Lowry was. He used to lurk outside dark Satanic mills around Manchester and draw the workers… as matchstick men.>”…and matchstick cats and dogs”to quote the song. Those are very expensive. Very.
>>540975884thats because the electric version sucks ass. it wasnt until he did it acoustic that the soul of the music finally awakened. van gogh is good in the context of artistic progression. everything was fucking boring ass literal versions of a farm or a lake at the time. its kind of the way the mona lise is considered so good. its not. its just revolutionary for its time. walk through the leuvre, and all you see are really fucking shitty 2D renditions of people that quite literally look like something your 12 yr old kid could paint. then you see her and wow, she is 3D. thats pretty much the only thing special about the picture, her "alluring smile" is just overhyped frosting on the cake that leaves the rest of the museum wing in dust. but these days? its nothing special at all. context actually matters. kind of like how the beatles revolutionized music, even though the vast majority of their early stuff is absolute tinny garbage.
>>540973239fpbp and yet it will get completely ignored
>>540980165thats because its fucking retarded.
>>540973092you should tell trumplets that
>>540978223>photographyit was also completely done to death within the art world, as well. realism was old and stale, nobody wanted any more paintings of a barn under a mountain, unless that could make them dream.this is why Hitler was rebuked as an artist. not only was his technical skill simply "adequate at best", he was producing paintings that absolutely nobody could care less about at the time. pissing into a sea of artistic piss, if you will.
>>540973092Van Gogh's use of color was exceptional, if you think it sucks you don't have taste.
>>540980525ahhh, the ol' double baking soda with vinegar and a bunch of other useless shit whammy. AI isn't sending their best...
>>540973092that pic is so beatiful
You wouldn’t get it
>>540973092What makes a good painting?
>>540981002Not what, whoAnd the answer is great artists
>>540973092I would have to agree on this one. It's easy to see that starry night is a masterpiece, while this is fucking trash. Did they dig this out of his dumpster?
