For those that think the US is beating Iran: what is your reasoning?
>>541252824The amount of Lego movies
>>541252824Iran is under blockade. Gets bombed regularly with no ability to defend itself and has abandoned its proxies fighting israel because it now lacks the means to offer support to such far away groups.
>>541253289Are you living in upside down world? Lol
>>541252824Trump has declared he's won 30 times. You're not allowed to lie on the internet.
>>541252824The TV tells me so. Also if America wasn't really #1 my ego would be hurt really bad. I'm a baby boomer btw if anyone was wondering.
The entire Iranian leadership is dead and they're under blockade.
>>541253289US hasn't bombed Iran in weeks due to lack of munitions, that's why they shifted entirely to economic warfare
>>541253289Also America's diplomatic relations in the region has increased, with Iran's neighboring countries openly calling them pirates and terrorists, and actively building alternative supply lines that can't be hit by the small terror cells that Iran has left.Additionally there's the fact that the Iranian Caliphate has brought much of their terror proxies inside their borders to act as an authoritarian police force against the Iranian populace to keep them from active rebellion.
>>541253464Iran is out of munitions and they can't enforce the closure of the strait tightly which is why Gulf ships are passing through it albeit with caution. Iran's only leverage is chimpout bombing and the strait. They can't do the former without exposing themselves to retaliation and their chokehold grip on the strait is weakening as time passes. They can't resolve either of these problems without leadership and all their leaders are dead, lol.
>>541253464> lack of munitionsI remember when Russia and Iran were “out of weapons”, almost like weapon inventories are classified?
>>541253579Why lie?
>>541252824Oil is getting through the strait. oil prices are dropping
>>541253695The US has plenty of bombs but they're too scared to fly F35s over Iran after they started getting shot down. They switched entirely to standoff missiles and they've mostly depleted those.
>>541253687theyre just waiting till midterms
>>541253687They also apparently can't do it without suffering environmental "blow back" from oil and other cargo being released from the ships they target.They were bitching not long ago about a large oil slick on their coast. It was one of the most brown-coded outbursts I've ever seen:>see, now our environment is being damaged because you forced us to fire on civilian ships traveling in another country's territorial waters because they refused to pay our extortion fee
>>541252824Iran isn't winning but the US isn't really doing anything remotely productive through most of this
>>541252824Iran has no measurable response. All it can do are issue threats and collapse.
prolonging the war only serves to convince trump's base to abandon him as he went back on a promise and couldn't even win (lmao) and once he loses the midterms nothing he wants will pass. the guy walked into his own slaughter because he trusted kikes lel
>>541253371I cant believe a living breathing human being is enough of a fucktard to have something like that saved onto their computer. You are a terminal aidsnigger and should reevaluate your life.
>>541253687Don't forget about pipelines bypassing hormuz.Somehow reddit and nu/pol/ have convinced themselves that these projects take>HECKIN' YEARSto complete, unaware that completion in a year or less is common (e.g., the Dakota Access was less than a year)--and that's without slave labor.
>>541253720Where's the lie?
>>541253747When the CVN George Washington showed up to relieve the Abraham Lincoln guess what it brought with it? Oh look more missiles. It's almost as if everything you've been conditioned to believe is complete bullshit.
>>541253946>Our war against Ukraine will go fine, we have the Nord Stream 2!
Eglin shills hard at work I see
>>541253987how many missiles before 2/3 of trump's army comes back to him
>>541254033Accusing everyone of being a ‘shill’ is bad for discussion.
>>541252824I don't. My groceries are 2x as expensive as this time last year and we are at the precipice of hyper inflation that will make Weimar look like Montezuma.
We killed a bunch of their guys, destroyed their navy, bombed the crap out of them and degraded them down to a regional nuisance from being a credible existential threat to all their neighbors. Iran's been reduced to sporadic missile attacks on its neighbors, and threatening ships in the Strait of Hormuz, which is a pretty long way down from their capabilities before this. Meanwhile, what real harm has the US suffered? A handful of dead servicemen, and some ruined base infrastructure. Allies lost some expensive military hardware, which the US will simply order replacements for, from its military contractors. The global price of oil went up, which resulted in slightly higher gas prices in the US, which is about all the average person in the US noticed about the conflict, since the US doesn't actually use the Strait of Hormuz for any of its own commercial shipping. Really, the greatest damage the US has suffered has been reputational, but stacked against the material harm done to Iran, it's hardly a good trade. I'm pretty sure the Ayatollah's surviving relatives would rather have him alive, and don't consider Americans paying $1.50 more for gas and the death of a few random GIs to be a fair trade for his life, and the life of all the other leaders who were assassinated, or the destruction of the Iranian navy.At the end of the day, a lot of the US's negative reputation can be pinned, quite fairly, on Trump and his cronies. Though perhaps some amount of blame does rest on the utterly inept opposition to him as well, in allowing him to run rampant to the detriment of a large portion of the world. But, ultimately, Trump will leave office in a couple years, and the way things are going I fully expect the Iran war to still be ongoing at that time, and if so, the next President will almost assuredly be a Democrat, even if it's another senile puppet like Biden. If the Iran War is still on in November 2028, the Dems could run a transsexual serial killer and win.
>>541254033Is that your only response, you dumb nigger?idiotic non sequitur accusations?
>>541254154Sorry the bot post quality is low, we'll work on making better NPCs for the simulation
>>541254142What does any of that have to do with Iran? Saudi fertilizer can go out of whichever port it's sent to, and Suez is as viable as Hormuz
>>541253289Iran doesn't get "bombed regularly", there was two stages of hot war so far and in both instances strikes had to be abandoned due to attrition and Iran's retaliatory tit for tat on gulf bases and gulf infrastructure Both bombing campaigns have left Iran's strike capabilities largely undamaged too
>>541254142So, in your mind, more expensive groceries is the equivalent to having your capital city routinely bombed, your navy destroyed, and leadership assassinated? What would America have to do to even the scales if, say, the price of toilet paper increased? Murder every first born son in Iran?
>>541254154Okay, pvt Alejandro
>>541254149>But, ultimately, Trump will leave office in a couple years, and the way things are going I fully expect the Iran war to still be ongoing at that time, and if so, the next President will almost assuredly be a Democrat,Your post was pretty lucid up to this point. Embarrassed for you tbqh.
>>541252824Iran lost nearly all their military capability.They have no economy to recover from this.America dictates the conditions of peace.
>>541253856I think it's obvious nobody planned for it to be this drawn out. They expected cutting off the head of the government to have a more dramatic effect, possibly even a popular uprising they could back. There's no substantial followup from the US military because there was never a plan for more than this.
>>541254233>Both bombing campaigns have left Iran's strike capabilities largely undamaged tooAnd when was the last time they struck Israel?
>>541253992Above-ground pipelines can be fixed quickly and easily, as shown during this very conflict with Saudi pipelines targeted by Iran.
>>541254305straits closed
>>541254305>Iran lost nearly all their military capability.Not a single missile city destroyed btw, and they're still firing into the hormuz daily >>541254340When's the last time israel struck them?
>>541254298This was is pretty unpopular, and time will only make it more unpopular. It's not a winning position for 2028 if it's still going. If it ends this year, or even in 2027, they can probably rely on the eternal news media outrage cycle to bury it in the public memory. But not if it's a thing the Dems can harp on in 2028's election cycle.I was exaggerating about their chances, though, because holy shit do they have a leadership problem.
>>541254257No, it is far worse. I hope every day to see D.C. turned into a radioactive crater, as that is one of the only things that can save this nation. What America should do is pay reparation's and leave the Middle East forever, and declare every jew an enemy of mankind and put a bounty on them.
>>541252824they're reduced to worshipping a gay cardboard ayahtollah after everyone else in the line of succession got BTFO
>>541254406That doesn't sound like something an American would say. Pay reparations? lol. Yeah fucking right. Talk about pissing money away. You can dump unlimited money into a Muslim shit hole and it will always be a Muslim shithole. Dubai is a chrome plated turd for an example of what I'm talking about.
>>541254340USA switched to trying to pressure Iran economically (which hasn't worked for the last 47 years) because they can't defeat them militarily and defend against their reprisal attacks, dumb nigger shill
>>541253464>US hasn't bombed Iran in weeks due to lack of munitionsMunitions shortages are a factor. Another factor is the US needs to use refueling aircraft and it only takes ten minutes for an Iranian missile with cluster munitions to hit the airports in Jordan and Israel if it looks like the US is about to carry out strike missions.
>>541254305All Iran can do from this point forward is issue threats and hope Russia or China will continue to send them equipment to get blown up. Iran's showing in this war has been embarrassing. Iran can maintain the facade that for every commander we blow up there's a willing cockroach willing to take his spot but in reality they are bleeding money, the IRGC is weak, no nuclear material, drone stockpiles ar ineffective, and the USA has been using all of this stalling time to organize drone countermeasures in Iran's neighbors. Ukrainian and American drone interceptors are 95-98% effective at hitting a shahed and Iran can't afford the Geran 5.
>>541254479>USA switched to trying to pressure Iran economically (which hasn't worked for the last 47 years)lol
>>541254398>This was is pretty unpopular, and time will only make it more unpopular. It's not a winning position for 2028 if it's still going. If it ends this year, or even in 2027, they can probably rely on the eternal news media outrage cycle to bury it in the public memory.It barely even exists in the public mind now and the media really doesn't have the pull anymore to shape public opinion meaningfully. Keep In mind that "muh Iran War" was the black swan event for redpilled types and conspiracy theorists for the last 2 decades, but in reality, it's been a complete nothingburger.
>>541254477I don't care about Muslims, I dislike Muslims, but the USA is in the wrong and we should be punished for our agression.
>>541254541I accept your concession
>>541254149>Meanwhile, what real harm has the US suffered?the petro dollar is no longer the reserve currency, the US is getting booted out of the region, the US has lost its position as the leading global power, the US has completely ruined its reputation as a trustworthy state, the US is globally hated on a much deeper level, the US is actively making enemies out of neutral and friendly states, the US has irreparably damaged its relationship with the GCC, iran has proven to the world that US thuggery and terrorism can be successfully deterred, life for the average american has gotten worse since the beginning of this war, and it wasn't great to start with, the US has severely depleted its military arsenal and is a sitting duck, the US has to spend even more money on the corrupt military complex, have i missed anything?
>>541253946>Don't forget about pipelines bypassing hormuzIran is threatening those now as retaliatory targets for for economic sanctions. Pipelines have entry and exit points that can be targeted by cheap ass drones.
>>541254495Nigger it's been seven months, Iran's underground silos and a lot of their important production facilities (also underground) are intact and largely untouchable short of a nuke98% effective drone interception is a fucking joke considering the Houthis have been hitting saudi refineries with tech much less advanced than Iran has
>>541254268go back to your piggy thread if you're just going to be a mindless consumer of IRGC propaganda.>>541254331>They expected cutting off the head of the government to have a more dramatic effect,yeah. That's true. They didn't account for the Kurds noping out after being given equipment. But I kinda don't blame them for being cowards either, since there's been a history of US political games fucking them over.
>>541254479>because they can't defeat them militarily and defend against their reprisal attackslol, the issue is more that the civilian government has been unable to tardwrangle the IRGC into coming to grips with reality and making a deal, which after the MOU blew up, will look more like a full surrender. As for their "reprisal attacks", it's been months since Iran did anything worth paying attention to.
>>541254564You couldn't sound less american if you tried anon. You'll never het a job at the call center if this is the best scamming you can do.
>>541254495Didn't we completely knock out their nuclear capabilities back in July of 2025? Or was that another hegseth/Trump lie?
>>541254651Why won't USA attack Iran?Iran isn't attacking because they are fighting a defensive warStrait's closed BTW
>>541254651what reality are you living in right now? iran has a replenished military arsenal and has been able to severely suppress transit through the strait of hormuz as well as push the US out of the GCC
>>541254596>the US is getting booted out of the region,Why you would even spend a minute thinking about this when Canada isn't even a country anymore, I'll never know. If anything, the US has strengthened its relationship with the gulf countries anyway and they're all firmly on our side and seeing Iran as the problem in the region now.
>>541254720>Strait's closed BTW16 million barrels went through the strait yesterday. Do you just get all your news from internet shills or something? It's been obvious for months that Iran couldn't close the strait even if they wanted to.
>>541254742>iran has a replenished military arsenal and has been able to severely suppress transit through the strait of hormuz as well as push the US out of the GCClmaonupol is a truly embarrassing place.
>>541252824Why cant we all be frens?
>>541254622The saudis don't have surveyor drones yet. Ukraine made Russian Geran 2s obsolete using surveyors and P1 Suns and now Russia has to rely on hypersonic missiles to hit apartment block buildings in kiev. Arabs can't into war, they need big America to hold their hands and tell them what to do. Iran's underground missile silos and command bunkers all have one major weakness. Water.
>>541254812You live in fantasy land, niggerJust like your nigger president
>>541254691The Iranians claim to have dug them out. We don't know if that's true.
>>541252824Projection is a hell of a thing. Whenever I see someone trying to force jealousy in me I can only imagine that it is how that person feels himself.
>>541254843>Iran's underground missile silos and command bunkers all have one major weakness. >Water.What?, You want to flood their tunnels hundreds of kilometers inland?? Retarded gorilla nigger
>>541254752the gcc are making back channel deals with iran to be able to transit through the strait. remember the billions dubai gave tehran? remember dubai denouncing israel? these are the latest developments of the war. i dont think the gcc appreciate being dragged into an unwinnable war with their neighbour which has cost them significantly, and has put several of their statehood into jeopardybut keep living in your delusional american exceptionalism hugbox. it's that exact type of thinking that's put the US in this mess, and what's accelerating your downfall
>>541253371I love seeing amerimutts getting humiliated lol
>>541254833iran has dozens of military cities under their impenetrable granite mountains and produce their weapons domestically for a fraction of what the US spends on its missiles
>>541253940You seems quite upset about it, calm down
>>541254812This is a claim by two "US officials" speaking to axiosWhich kpler denies btw
>>541252824King Migger already said multiple times that the USA won and hormuz is already america's territory, so when i said that every american opinion is just a fart it was not a joke...
>>541252824>>541253289I got another question. Why won't America leave Iran the fuck alone? It leaves NK alone.Oh i know. Nukes! Kim has nukes and suddenly Trump is forced to respect him. Iran needs nukes and all the bombing and attacks will end.
>>541254720>Why won't USA attack Iran?To do what? Attack what? Navy: destroyed. Leadership is reduced to figureheads and cardboard cutouts after being devastated. All their exposed military assets have been flattened. They've got a few assets hidden in such a way they can't easily be destroyed, but the best they can manage with those is nuisance-tier harassment. Their military capability has been thoroughly degraded. The US could terrorize the civilian population, I guess, but that's counter-productive if the goal is to eventually build a positive relationship with a new Iranian government after the current regime eventually dies. If you can think of any specific targets that should be bombed, please let the Department of War know, but I seriously doubt you've got better intelligence about that than they do.
>>541255041>we could destroy them, we just don't want toMore fantasy land shitFunniest cope
>>541255027Because north korea isnt attacking everyone around it. The American position regarding iran and nukes was proven correct when the first thing iran did when it was bombed by america and israel was to attack everyone around rando neutral country within range. You cant trust muzzie fanatics anons.
>>541255041Ahhh, someone who actually pays attention and hasn't been mindraped by demoralization shills. A true rarity on nupol...
>>541252824I think theyre fags
>>541255139>GCC>neutralPlaying dumb is the only card you shills have
>>541254943>iran has dozens of military cities under their impenetrable granite mountainsCapeshit, lol
>>541255139ThisWe also don’t bomb Pakistan because they keep it in their fucking pants.
I'm not going to root for them if even the government doesn't actually want to win
>>541255222>digging tunnels under mountains is "capeshit"I get why mutts are losing now
>>541255041iran has a style of leadership that takes into account the possibility of assassinations, since those are the scheming underhanded tactics of usrael. the exposed military assets were largely if not completely decoys. they have dozens of fully operational missile cities underneath their impenetrable granite mountains that produce missiles on a daily basis for a fraction of the cost of american missiles. the US has been terrorizing the civilian population for nearly 50 years, there is no possibility of a positive relationship with iran, despite how desperately the US might want one. and there won't be a new iranian government -- even though by your account the current government is a straw house. they sure have done a good job of pushing the US out of the gcc and brought transit through the strait to a crawl despite their fake government
>>541255180Your hysterical seething isn't changing anyones mind itt nor will it save iran from its beatdown. I dont expect rational discussion from emotional browns like yourself so do quit adding your worthless and unrequested commentary to every post.
>>541253747Another one just got shot down a few hours ago.
>lol
>>541255222Sites that have been struck dozens of times still fire (khomein, Bandar Abbas, Qeshm Island)>>541255139Mind you that all of these 'neutral' countries host US bases and assets, allow their airspace to be used for US operations, and in the case of Kuwait literally fired american missiles from their territory at Iran
>>541255222you are suffering from the delusion that every state fights wars like the mafioso US, and that's just not true. your lack of understanding of the iranians is exactly why the us has lost this war by a landslide, lol
>>541255279Whiter than you, pvt Gomez
>>541255139But its not like that. America never attacked NK like it attacked Iran in the first place. Kim still has massive amounts of nerve agent armed at SK. So the strikes never happened. Once NK started shooting off nukes them America starting talking to them diplomatically.America wants Irans oil and control of oil in hormuz just say it. This war is about oil, control of oil and regime changing countries to be pro American and sell oil in dollars. That's what all these wars are about in the ME. NK doesn't have oil.
>>541255267Why haven't those "dozens of underground military cities" actually done anything though? I know this is tough for you because this war has hit Europe and their girlboss leadership class hard...
>>541255139but the Americans/Israelis attacked first? Why would Iran not attack the allies of its enemies who initiated war against it? The Saudis, Emiratis, and Kuwaitis are not neutral in the least. They provide logistical support to the American/Israeli attacks. Not to mention Iran's bombings were not just indiscriminately targeting random countries/cities. They specifically said they would attack any country that hosts US radar bases because those radar bases are part of the AA network allowing Israel to bomb Iran without fear of retaliation. Iran caused billions in damages to US military infrastructure and buck broke Israel as the lack of American radars in Saudi Arabia meant the Iron Dome was suddenly useless. It was a very effective strategy, hence why Ziocucks like you are so mad about it.
>>541255334>Why haven't those "dozens of underground military cities" actually done anything though?they closed the strait of hormuz and destroyed every US radar base in the middle east. I think that's doing a lot but idk maybe you expected a land invasion of Iraq or something?
>>541255306>your lack of understanding of the iranians is exactly why the us has lost this war by a landslide, lolAt this point we're just waiting for them to collapse(without a single boot on the ground btw). The markets are already recovering. Oil is only 80 a barrel and Iran's one trick(declaring the strait closed every few days) is totally spent.
>>541255309Theres nothing white about you somali.
>>541254900Strike the desalination plants at Bandar Abbas and let them all die of thirst pinche frijole
>>541255410iran has several trade partners on its borders as well as a train route to china. what collapse are you expecting? china, the most important of these partners, has already said it wasnt going to acknowledge US sanctions
>>541255461iran relies on like 3% of their water from desalination plants
>>541255520No it doesn't. Iran's water tables are all critically low and Iran's survival is tethered to its desalination plants.
>>541255461This was Trump's plan earlier this month before the saudi prince and most of the GCC called him and threatened him to knock it off (Probably threatening to sell off US bonds)You know why?, because, and since you have been utterly unable to impact Iran's strike capabilities, any attempts to hit Iran's desalination will result in counter value strikes across the gulf, hitting Saudi and arab desalination, Oil, powerThis happened on a smaller scale earlier in the war when the US struck various bridges in Bandar Abbas, Iran retaliated by taking out multiple power and desalination plants in Kuwait, guess what, the US hasn't struck Iranian civilian infrastructure since then
>>541255294Very few countries do not have strong ties to the us in one way or another simply because the world’s economy revolves around the us. Many of the gulf states were sympathetic to iran. Qatar especially. Not anymore. Arab unity against iran is stronger than ever and a rapprochement between israel and the arabs via the Abraham accords seems inevitable now. Strategically america is in a better position in the middle east then its been at any time since before 9/11. Isolate iran, ruin its proxies, a project thats been ongoing for many years now, and establish a new arab order to maintain the balance of power. Anons always want america out of the middle east. Well thats how its done.
>>541255560you can look it up. it's 3%
>>541252824Why did their President announce that they should surrender to the US?
>>541255139>attack everyone around rando neutral country within range>attacking US bases in neutral countriesYou aren't even trying you lazy jew. For a few shekels a day you can hire superior brahman shillbot saar
>>541255520>>541255461pretty sure saudis and israelis rely on like 90% of their water from desalination. Iran was being really generous not striking those plants but they struck sites near them to show they had the capability to do so. this is what actually buckbroke the saudis into begging trump to end the war as all it takes is a few missiles hitting those desalination plants and the house of saud would collapse in a few weeks.
>>541255572It's an existential crisis. If we hit Bandar Abbas the Iranians would go all out and launch everything they have in a use it or lose it scenario. Suddenly those bunkers underground aren't worth shit anymore.
>>541255588you are suffering from delusions. please stop watching fox news
>>541255324If kim was bombing south korea in the same way iran was bombing israel and teh arabs then yes we would be bombing the shit out of north korea. The truth is that north korea is largely a rational actor that one can live with. Iran not so much.
>>541255503>iran has several trade partners on its borders as well as a train route to china. what collapse are you expecting?Did you miss the two highest profile members of the civilian government coming out and saying it's time to end the war the other day because their economy is cooked?
>>541255650Iran didn't fire a single missile at Israel until the Israelis attacked them. Not a single country on earth would let you just bomb their territory without retaliation. South Korea is just smarter than Israel. There is nothing irrational about Iran's response you jew.
>>541255650Why did Israel genocide Palestine? Iran wouldn't of bombed Israel if they didn't do that.
Uh oh OP summoned all the pakistani niggers locked and loaded with their interracial porn folders
>>541255618Ah yes those hotels in dubai were military bases. The vast majority of iranian attacks were not directed at american bases or military targets at all. Just like when the fire missiles in the general direction of israel.
>>541252824YOU LOST, TRANNY. BROWN. COMMIE.
>>541255588>Very few countries do not have strong ties to the us in one way or another simply because the world’s economy revolves around the us. Many of the gulf states were sympathetic to iran. Qatar especially.This is just not true, Most of the Arab world has been extremely hostile for Iran for a while, especially the saudis and emiratisOr why did supposedly 'sympathetic' Qatar allow for the use of their land for US bases, airspace for US strikes For fucks' sake nigger Qatar literally hosts the CENTCOM headquarters in the region>>541255637>It's an existential crisis. If we hit Bandar Abbas the Iranians would go all out and launch everything they have in a use it or lose it scenario.If the Iranians go all out and launch everything they have at critical infrastructure in the region suddenly oil production and quality of life in the gulf is utterly ruined for the foreseeable future, right ahead of the midterms too you stupid nigger
>>541255690i saw ghalibaf say something about domestic security being in the hands of the region and not the US. it wasnt asking the US for a deal like the western media has been trying to spin it, lol. please stop watching fox news>>541255701because they're evil jews
>>541255693Wrong. It started attacking israel directly last year.
>>541255701It didnt. I wish they would tho. It would make the while process much simpler if palirats were no longer a concern to take into account.
>>541255765after israel started a war on iran and then bitched out
>>541255794kike spotted
>>541255752Anon Qatar and iran had very close ties. Its not either or you know. China has ties to iran and america is its largest trading partner.
>>541255801Nope. Iran attacked israel before that.
>>541255755They also have been bombing Lebanon and Syria using American donated F 35s. They use JASM missiles(also donated by america)....
>>541255862yeah? where's your source kike?
>>541255846Well yeah it's all worth jack shit if they go around and let their land and air be used as a staging ground to attack IranWould Mexico be a 'neutral' or 'sympathetic' nation if we allowed the PLA to fire dongfengs at fucking texas or whatever
>>541255862OK and israel has been assassinating iranians since the 2010s. whats your point. israel was behind clinton backing out of the oil deal in 95. irans been under economic warfare for nearly 50 years thru the sanctions
>>541253289>bombed regularlyCan you uh, elaborate? Or are you simply revealing classified information by accident
>>541255755>i saw ghalibaf say something about domestic security being in the hands of the region and not the US.“No matter how much military power we have, if people are hungry and we don't have financial circulation, economic growth and domestic production, we will not endure,” Ghalibaf said during a meeting >it wasnt asking the US for a deal like the western media has been trying to spin it, lol.“It is better that we bring the war to an end now, as we are in a position of power and dignity,” Pezeshkian said during a meetingYou can't even read between the lines here because you don't know anything, really.
>>541255906>Would Mexico be a 'neutral' or 'sympathetic' nation if we allowed the PLA to fire dongfengs at fucking texas or whateverFire dongfengs at texas from baja california btw
>>541255959i know that ghalibaf and pezeshkian have zero authority over what the IRGC does lol. for all we know, the IRGC put them up to saying that to bait the US into another round of the hot phase of the war
>>541254406All of that, except the reparations. Desert niggers of all varieties in those regions have been a scourge on mankind for centuries.
>>541256035the IRGC does want peace. remember that this war was entirely initiated by Israel/the US. Iran has always had a firm position that they won't give up anything and will continue fighting until the US gets tired of the war and accepts that Iran is a sovereign nation that can decide its own destiny when it comes to nuclear proliferation. it's entirely on the US to decide when the war ends, not the Iranian civilian government.
>>541256035>i know that ghalibaf and pezeshkian have zero authority over what the IRGC does lol.That's really Iran's main issue. The civilian government is trying to tardwrangle the IRGC, but this is existential for them and they know it.
>>541256134you are a delusional retard>>541256126nuclear proliferation, free trade, control of hormuz
>>541252824If they were serious, we wouldn't be here. Democrats had everyone believe we were electing the most vile villain who raped little kids that were in the slave trade. Someone who compares to hitler in magnitude, bringing about concentration camps, police killings everywhere!"That's our guy for Iran!" I said to myself. "They keep trying to fucking normalize the twin towers! We have fucking nukes! Little kids watched mass destruction! That's enough, right? That's enough to go in when they start trying to give the nukes, right?"WRONG! Fell for it again. All the bellyache over a Trump and for what? Russia reestablishing Soviet, cold war era ties. Really? DPRK, China, Lao, the whole bit. Time to go fight for Mexico, I guess.
I hope the miggers itt are being ironic
>>541256159>nuclear proliferation, free trade, control of hormuztechnically Iran never really wanted control of hormuz. before the war they didn't charge a toll for ships passing through the strait because it was in their interest for trade through the strait to be free. the US kind of forced their hand there.Iran's 2 main goals of this war are just nuclear independence and the end of US sanctions so they can engage in business with the US. they just want to be part of the US economic sphere like every other middle eastern state, which Israel will never allow to happen because jews are ontologically evil.
>>541256212its probably just mossad agents clocking in to spread disinformation
>>541256159>you are a delusional retardYou just don't know anything and are coping over the fact that Canada isn't a country anymore by focusing your ire on Trump. It's understandable honestly.
>>541254149>The global price of oil went up, which resulted in slightly higher gas prices in the US, which is about all the average person in the US noticed about the conflict, since the US doesn't actually use the Strait of Hormuz for any of its own commercial shipping.The people we import a lot of our consumer goods and some other food products from do rely on it, though, which does affect prices here. We've also dumped oil reserves on the market to keep prices from going higher. If this drags on longer, it'll just make everything more of a pain in the ass and especially afterwards.
>>541256290you are a delusional retard
>>541256330ok Gurpreet
I'm so tired of miggers
>>541254752>seeing Iran as the problem in the region now.They always have, that's partially why they jumped in bed with us, and the other reason was money. Sunnis and Shias hate each other as much as Catholics and Protestants in Ireland, if not more, and religion is only one part of why they have so much friction between each other.
>>541256354why would i be defending iran if i was indian? you cannot stop yourself from being a delusional retard
>>541252824The side that has lesser no. of Jews will lose the war. Iran has 90,000 less jews than USA. Iran defeat is inevitable,Just like Canada's.
>>541253289>Gets bombed regularlyMiggers, update your script
This is the 5th month? And we havent achieved a single stated goal, just hit 40 Trillion USD in debt and the oil reserve is decreasing
>>541256905>This is the 5th month?only 45ish days of hostilities though.
>>541252824Despite Trump's retarded flip-flopping words, Iran used the one play it had. Trying to close the Hormuz, and in return it was closed to them. Economically, it's going to hurt them more the longer it stays closed. While other countries find alternatives. Iranian military leadership is largely dead, leaving small cells that cannot coordinate larger action. They can launch drone and missile attacks but then they reveal their locations. Neither side has won the war, but there has been more damage done to Iran as an enemy state. To the point I could argue the decapitation were a bit too successful.
>>541257134>Iranian military leadership is largely deadIt's been seven months since your last high rank assassination, how long will this cope go on?
Believing that iran is winning is out of this world cope.
>>541255727>Ah yes those hotels in dubai were military bases.>Ah yes those hotels that were full of mutt soldiers posting tiktok videos from inside them were military bases???
>>541256585You’re related and in BRICS
there is no denying that the strait of hormuz has been made less relevant in the short term and in the long term obsolete
>>541254340When Israel stopped bombing them and left you hanging in the open with your dick in your hand (lmao)Israel goaded you to attack and took the first way out. Now you are stuck in this war all alone, not even Israel is helping out anymore.
>>541259784>you are stuck in this war all alonenow do venezuela
>>541259784>israel stopped bombing themisrael lost the capabilities to bomb iran after american refuelers started falling out of the sky over iraqthat's why they still bomb lebanon
>>541259991Venezuela unironically is what brought you into this mess. It made the Cheeto in Chief think he could do the same thing in Iran but yet here we are.The US has no idea what to do anymore and are banking now on economic warfare crippling Iran because military action isnt cutting it.
Iran good
Oil outflow out of the Middle East returned to prewar levels.Any attempts to harass trade fail since thier missiles miss now except for directly off the coast shots amd they only hit ships bringing them free food.Both gayatollahs are dead.Navy is sitting in the bottom of the seaNo airforce Can't supply proxy forcesCan't motivate muslims in the West to do terrorist attacks.It's Irover.
>>541261727To add: They will start using the Gaza genocide script in about 2 months. The fuel shortages reached Tehran.
>>541252824When I look out my window, I don't see any Iranian missiles flying across the sky
>>541252824Economy: US suffers $30b in damages while Iran suffers $300b and an indefinite closure of their ports.Casualties: US suffers 19 deaths, couple hundred wounded while Iran suffers more than 4000 deaths with 10k+ woundedStrategic: Iran exposed as an international pariah that doesn't have any foreign backing, Russia and China too afraid of supporting them in fear of sanctions. Middle East becomes reliant on the US for AD missiles.Proxies: Iran once again exposed as having very weak proxies who are not willing to go all the way for them, only exception being the Houthis.
>>541252824we have complete military and strategic dominance and they've been unable to inflict any significant damage through any means. nobody with an iq over 80 thinks iran is winning.
>>541254233Then why are they letting ships though the strait? And why are they incapable of stopping our blockade?
>>541261966I love that the bots ignore the damage to the US's reputation, economic damage to our allies, and operational costs for keeping our military on their doorstep indefinitely.It's like reading inflation statistics because they conveniently don't track all of the things that the consumer actually sees, and instead bases it on the price of collectable horse testicles and velvet slippers.
>>541254406Nobody cares about whatever stupid chud fantasies you have in your demented faggot brain.
>>541261966>US suffers $30b in damages for Israel
>>541254564You first, kill yourself to make amends.
>>541253695>almost like weapon inventories are classified?Those were allegedly "leaks".>why would someone leak such a thing?People in the Pentagon have probably recognized that, if Trump keeps pursuing the same course to try and save his reputation, the US will become powerless to protect its other interests.>recent discussions on the use of tactical nukesIf you're well-equipped and confident in your conventional munitions, this isn't likely a policy you'd be eyeing. Couple this with the other leaks and rumours - food cart, Natalie Harp insinuations (teased), etc - it seems like they're trying to exert as much pressure on Trump as possible to find an off-ramp.Hopefully this all results in the US decoupling from Israel.
>>541252824Imagine two guys get into a fistfight. One of them is much larger and more intimidating by appearance, but when the fight starts the big guy keeps screaming that he already won (the fight is still going). He starts screaming that people should help him in the fight, but also screaming that he needs no help. He screams weird gruesome threats he does not follow through on. He insists he won, several more times. At this point his opponent is mostly just standing back with a confused look. Does that look like a win?
>>541254622Why did they stop shooting ships in the strait?
>>541261727>Oil outflow out of the Middle East returned to prewar levels.lmao no, literally not even the US claims that>>541262048They are letting ships through their corridor and it is possible to sneak a couple ships through Oman, but they're still firing on shipping literally every day>>541262134(They didn't)>>541261966>Strategic: Iran exposed as an international pariah that doesn't have any foreign backing, Russia and China too afraid of supporting them in fear of sanctions.China just said that they weren't going to abide by US sanctions on Iran
>>541252824That their leadership, Pezeshkian and Ghalibaf, have admitted they cannot continue this war, and one of their ministers stating that they have not sold any oil in weeks and cannot access their funds. Oil exports to their main buyer, China have dropped by two thirds. They admitted all of this despite knowing that their domestic enemies, those that think they are not tough enough on the US and the population that hates them, is looking for any sign of weakness. But carry on, as some brown mongrel or edgy anti-American sheltered faggot American will bleat....>F-f-faaaaake!!!!
>>541262171>China just said that they weren't going to abide by US sanctions on IranOh great the mexicunt troon. China may have said one thing and issued a strongly worded letter, but their purchases of Iranian oil have fallen by two thirds.
