>treasury buying own low yield debt to issue more high yield debtis this nigga OUT OF HIS GODDAMN MIND?
>>54135894040T in debt. The USA is 'cooked' as the kids say
>>541358940its economic d-day you wouldn't understand
>>541358940He has no choice, USA owes China big money, and Trump has to pay it off , so he can sanction China. Get ready for some tuff times, America
>>541358940Argentinian economics 101
>>541358940>buying own low yield debt to issue more high yield debtI think its the other way around, anon
>>541358940End the fucking Fed.
>>541359571It's not the Fed, it's the treasury.
>>541358940I don't get it, if they have 1 trillion dollars in cash why do they need to "buy back their own debt", why not use it and remove the deficit?
>>541358940So the Treasury is going to borrow money to loan itself the money it borrows.
>>541359639The treasury enables the Fed (and Congress). End it.
>>541359669It's Federal Reserve notes. But thats not the full extent of it.
>>541359521he's buying old low yield treasuries from banks to free the space on their balance sheet since they are obliged to buy any treasury(which are now issued with high yields) that market refused to acquire.That means he's taking a loss on that buyback and at the same time has to pay more interest anyway on newly issued ones.
>>541358940the world is going to slop it up like the good goyim they are whether they like it or not
>>541359521it is not. it's so bond holders dont sell that low rate debt for pennies on the dollar.
>>541359751Ending the Fed would mean an.economic collapse and a depression lasting about a decade.Still worth it, but don't gas yourself thinking that ending the Fed leads to good times.This is how the Fed keeps itself alive because everyone knows they have their Samson Option
>>541359809>using federal notes you can print to buy back bonds.Please tell me when they mention money, they mean something more tangible like oil, assets, or gold.
>>541358940this is a non story. the treasury isn't creating money, it's just shifting around maturity dates. they issue bonds to fund the government, they're usually long term 30 year bonds. but these are demanding a high yield (there's no buyers that's what they mean when they say liquidity problems), so they're just going to issue short term bills, issuing these causes the yield to go up and taking that money and buying back 30 year causes the 30 year yield to go down, so everything flattens. short term is already yielding near 4%, the 30 year yield near 5%.
>>541359881>Ending the Fed would mean an.economic collapse and a depression lasting about a decade.You mean the economic collapse that has already happened since 1913? Good. Better ten years than the 100+ years of depression we've been in since its inception.
>>541359890bonds need to be banned, and every jew kicked out of the US.
>>541359881Just end the deficit and infinite money spending on random bullshit and that's fucking enough. How the fuck can your government not budget and instead spends a 6-7% deficit to achieve 2% economy growth? Without the deficit spending and AI bubble US would be in a recession since 2024. In fact wages aren't keeping up with inflation which is probably 10% or so a year now. If you don't fix this treasury yields will rise, intervention or not and debt interest will take 40-50% of tax revenue in a few years which is not sustainable.
>>541359884they're not printing but its a direct cash injection into the market, banks specifically.I think fed will soon start buying these new treasury notes because there is just not enough demand for them especially with AI bubble going on.
>>541360075direct cash with what? Fed notes?
>>541358940I do not understand economicsIs this bad?
>>541359890This is the biggest story there is right now. The story is that nobody is buying long bonds, which is pushing yields up and forcing the Treasury to desperate measures. Liquidity is drying up for U.S. treasuries, which means the plumbing in the global financial system is stopping up and the pipes are about to burst. This reeks of 2008 and repo madness in 2019 which came an inch away from breaking the financial system. On top of this we have an AI bubble which is peaking and a commodities crisis in the mideast. When shit hits the fan, this is going to be a fucking catastrophe. Nobody sees it coming but the usual broken clocks.
>>541359818The Treasury being forced to refinance its own debt means, quite literally, that the goyim are refusing to slop it up.
>>541359481They are in for a great decade or decades of decadence
>>541360317Let it all fall. Bring back gold and silver.
>>541359426They'll just start selling public assets.Expect top see Xi Jinping on Mount Rushmore in the next 2 years.
>lol
>>541360249yeah dollars sitting in government account, read the OP.
>>541358940Whew. This is some advanced miggernomics I'm not chosen enough to understand.
>>541360036We are fucked no.matter what Treasury doesBessent just bought some time before the midterms or he is dumb enough to think growth can fix it (it won't)But thanks for having an actual head for this unlike the schizo who thinks we've been in a hundred year depression
>>541360305It is economic trickery, buying time
>>541360527>we'll take back your bonds and give you our fake money in returnKEK
>>541360563>buy high sell low
>>541359669A bond is a deficit. The government needs money to buy kikes a missile that costs $1000 so they can bomb a children's hospital in Gaza, but they don't have it. The government sells a $1000 bond on the bond market , which is basically selling debt. You buy the debt and they pay you back with interest over a set time period. That's what the national debt is (well part of it).
>>541359481>>541360387Don't cry for me, argentina
>>541360572>But thanks for having an actual head for this unlike the schizo who thinks we've been in a hundred year depression
>>541359751it's actually the fed that enables the treasury (Congress). Every bond issued backs some spending Congress passed, never forget that, they are the problem
>>541359426>ChinaBoth Japan and EU hold far more US debt than China. Stop obsessing over them.
I do not agree nor volunteer to be the generation who gets absolutely buttfucked so 10 generations before AND after can have a good time. Fuck you and your collapse kikes
>>541360741>they are the problemIm aware.
>>541360317>The story is that nobody is buying long bonds, which is pushing yields up>the pipes are about to burstThis anon gets it.Global debt (aka bond) market has been more volatile and unstable during the past four years than in half a century.>AI bubbleLast and final cash grab before the global debt market totally implodes. AI is the greatest financial scam of all timeWhich means the end of human civilization all 160 countries (dependent on the 1 single default reserve currency denomination worldwide).
>>541360305It means you have a good economy and ppl who bought covid era 10yr or 20yr bonds want to sell them but investors aren't buying because there's more money in stocks and other securities right now.So what the Treasury does is buy back the bonds and issue new one's which can be sold more quickly. This is called on the run securities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_run_(finance)
>>541358940This admin is jewing a little too close to the sun
>>541358940this is necessary to ensure that Iran does not get a nuclear weapon
>>541360804>Which means the end of human civilization all 160 countries (dependent on the 1 single default reserve currency denomination worldwide).no it means the beginning of human civilization as we ween ourselves off the jewish globalist machine and back to sound economic principles.
>>541360837wow a clever leafcuck for once
>>541360741>(Congress)Every bond issued backs some spending Congress passednever forget that, they are the problemThis. (You) get it, anonIt is Congress' *fiscal* policy of rubberstamping year-after-year-after-year $2+T budgets, in lock step with Treasury+central bank's *monetary* policy (i.e. Congress always knows they have a blank check of QE """"printing"""" of money *they don't have and doesn't even exist*)See: >>541356045
>>541360317The opposite actually.The secondary bond market yields are up because you don't buy bonds in a bullish market so to sell them you lower the price hence the yield goes up because a 100m bond is selling at 90m. To fix this problem the Treasury has a reverse auction, buys and reissues new bonds and now everyone wants a US bond because it can be sold quickly if needed at near face value. All the Treasury did was buy back 4B in bonds and release 4B new ones an absolute nothingburger, Yellen did the same under Biden on a smaller scale
>>541360628payouts on bonds are also in dollars
>>541359426You don't know a fucking thing about who owes what to whom, shut the fuck up you retard.
>>541361045the dollars is the fake money I mentioned
>>541361081all money value is backed by government that issue them. Its not fake unless the country doesn't exist.
>>541358940can failed libertarians and boomer paultards leave>still seething because no one wants to use their faggot goldeat shit. the Fed is based
>>541361159being backed by a government doesnt make it real. real money has far more properties than if a government backs it or not. If it was real, we wouldnt be in this mess.
>>541361059So... who does the USA owes money to?
>>541361245They owe time to the citizens they abused for a century.
>>541360667That is depreciation of value in the dollar, not a depression, you simoleninded dunceGo be an ancap goldbug or troon out and be a communist faggot, but stop trying to have a discussion in something you clearly so not understand We are discussing Treasury buying up low yield bonds right after 25+ year bonds spikes in yields signalling that no one was buying long term bond issuances because of our catastrophic levels of debtBut you just have your pet schizo mindsetThis is why the people in charge think of us as cattle, because of people like youOr you are a FUDboy trying to derailSec. Bessent is doing a but ack to forestall a collapse in bond buys, forcing the banks to buy, and buying time before the midterms so he and his boss do not get pimp slapped by the debt issuance they have done to the time of 21% in just 3 fucking yearsYou're going to get a real.depresaion, you are going to get a CBDC tied to your biometrics. And dipshits like you who are too fucking stupid to figure out WHY will go along with it because being comfortable is all you really care aboutYou will still post here tho, with a new schizo theory, while still participating We are fucked 9 ways to Sunday, and in about 6 months time going to be bent over the table and ass fucked by the FedThen you will find out what a real depression is about, instead of trouting out the dollars devaluation You should have gone with what happens when the petrodollar ends and all the inflation we exported for decades comes back home. Then your dollar devaluation argument might have some but of merit
>>541361300>That is depreciation of value in the dollar, not a depression, you simoleninded dunce
>>541359809>he's buying old low yield treasuries from banks to free the space on their balance sheet since they are obliged to buy any treasury(which are now issued with high yields) that market refused to acquire.The banks have a zero reserve requirement when buying government bonds, they literally print the money they buy bonds with the moment they buy them. Then they get tax payer money paid to them as interest on the bonds they bought with money they created out of nothing, tax payer money taken from people who actually work. Bessent isnt incompetent, he is a competent criminal pretending to be incompetent. The entire currency system is criminal.
>>541361245Go find a documentary on the federal reserve and watch it, something an hour long or more.
>>541361494based post
>>541361494I like how every time they are trying to fix something, the fix is just to fuck the people even more.
>>541361300Your economy is fine.Look at the Fed reserve NY and Philly surveys for manufacturing they shot up. Notice the scale of the buybacks. Under the currently published schedule, the increase adds at most around $14 billion of purchases before the November refunding. That is less than five hundredths of a percent of the $31.5 trillion Treasury market. The market trades around $1.2 trillion on an average day. The buybacks are a rounding error compared with the size of the market for Treasuries. >OMG 2 MORE WEEKS IT'S ALL OVERnothing will happenMy economy though is fucked
>>541361494>The banks have a zero reserve requirement when buying government bondsthey have zero reserve requirement for anything, in the US at least. They haven't since 2020
>>541359809There is no "loss" the outcome is simply inflation, which the wagies will gladly pay
>>541360317Yeah when I try to warn people here in Sweden they think I am crazy. It looks like another 1929 is incoming and the consequences will be hilarious because the previous time the commoners werent debt leveraged up over their ears. Being bankrupt in Sweden makes you a legal debt slave until you die, unable to own anything of value and even legally unable to drive a car because the car can be taken and sold to pay off your debts even if you do not own it as long as you are caught using it. You cant even share adress with someone whos not in bankruptcy because the tax collector will take their stuff and they will have to process in the local court to get it back proving that it is theirs. Its a total clown show. Yes, in Sweden, debts are collected by the government taxman. Its very hard to clear your debts in Sweden, atm we have 450K people being pursued by the taxman for unpaid debts and 10-11K are offered debt clearing every year. Post crash thats going to be 7-8 million in bankruptcy and still 10-11K per year in debt clearing program. You only get debt clearing if you are one step away from skid row. If we have say 7 million in bankruptcy and debt collectors can garnish $1000 on average from them per month assuming at least half of them still work, thats 84 billion dollars per year, and all collected trough the governments tax agency, with fees paid by the debtor. Because we have an almost digital economy it means that garnishing is easy. Swedes derive their social status from the amount of possessions they can pose with. If they lose their car, their house, their speedboat etc they also lose tons of izzat and become bums with zero social status and they will be stuck there at the bottom for the rest of their lives because their pensions can be garnished too. Thats exactly what these people need because they have that american boomer mentality "I gots mine muddafukka so I dont care". But they dont own anything. Everything is financed.
>>541362154except wagies are tired and dont have the motivation anymore since everything is expensive
>>541360305>Instead of paying 2% what if we paid.... 8%?
>>541362182isnt sweden admin'd by jews? Sounds like a gulag to me
>>541361494>print moneythat's untrue they have to match capital requirements. Not sure how it is now since trump heavily deregulated banks
>>541362154its a loss, government is losing money by doing that.I'm not going into details because obviously people pay always through taxes or through inflation
>>541360305it is headless chicken dance of US economy
>>541358940It's not that crazy, it's a soft default that will only hurt working class Goyim. It won't get bad enough to make the Goyim give up on their obligations but at the same time Goyim is going to be worse off after it is over with. It's brilliant really because the stagflation that will continue for at least six more years has this weird effect on Goyim were they will actually believe that they are getting ahead when it's all an optical illusion and they are in reality getting slaughtered. At that point it would be in Goyim best interest to just stop and default on all their obligations until some collective "new deal" is made but they won't do that, they will keep slaving harder than ever because of that illusion they will be under and trying to get the Goyim to understand otherwise will be futile because they just don't have the intelligence to understand. You guys still think jews are dumb and they are making mistakes and that is were you make the critical mistake.
>>541361494Basically everything Trump does is corruption/stealing. Just look at the tariffs:>Enact tariffs you know will most likely get stopped by the Supreme Court>Go ahead and do it anyways, making sure to hedge/open short positions before announcing "Tariff D-Day">Crash the markets with how ridiculous they are, get even richer>Companies now proceed to pass the costs directly on to American citizens because they can>Americans pay the tariffs, no new jobs are created, no manufacturing is brought back>Americans poorer as a result>Trump gets sued for the tariffs as expected (wow, how did that happen?)>Lose the case of course>Now you have to refund the tariffs to the CORPORATIONS not the peopleInsane bait and switch tactic to literally steal money from Americans and funnel it back into the biggest corporations on earth
>>541362182How the fuck are you supposed to work if you can't live anywhere or get to work? You'd literally be better off fleeing the country or killing yourself.
>>541362645>bait and switch tactic to literally steal money from Americans and funnel it back into the biggest corporations on earththis
>>541360982I don't believe it has value, yet it does.
>>541359481I remember thinking the other day that mass migration from Latin America will cause America to simply reflect Latin American politics. By 2040, the two main factions will be the Fuentesistas on the right and the Cortezistas on the left. The first uses performative appeals to Christianity and anti-Communism and the other appeals to grievances against the Mestizos and Whites dominating the economic sphere. The U.S. really is becoming Brazil.
>>541362645>>541363201It's called playing ball, negers. Don't go crying on the internet because you don't have what it takes (<110 IQ and college-tier connections)
>>541362225>isnt sweden admin'd by jews? Sounds like a gulag to meIts more like a combined gulag and daycare for very large children. Jews doesnt take swedes seriously and neither do I. The amount of deranged confabulated bullshit a swede can produce is amazing. No sane person takes a chronic bullshitter seriously. Thats why this crash is going to be hilarious when the exceptionally haughty and also exceptionally willfull ignorant typical average adult swede gets blown up and explicitly becomes enslaved by jewish debt owners. Swedes doesnt see the mass import of swarthoids and negroes as a problem as they percieve them to be perpetually beneath them in social status. Swedes also become very salty when a swarthoid or negro buys a house or drives an expensive car. They see that as a hostile attempt to ursurp their social status. That is why it is so good if they lose everything and becomes enslaved paypigs. A newly arrived swarthoid from Syria with 0 assets but also 0 debts will have a net value thats $100K over a typical average 2028 future swede which means that he has superior social status. This is the beginning of the real swedish weimar period. Everything up to now has just been the pre show. No outrage has made the swede change his mind. But this, when he loses his social status, its going to buuuuuurn a deep hole in his ego. There is more insanity, the government recently changed the laws so you if you arent registered at an adress that is zoned as a house, you will be deleted from the census records and marked as "emigrated/disappeared". That means that you will be cut off from every welfare system. But if you are registered at an adress that is zoned as a house, then it means that the taxman will be able to raid that place and carpetbag it. So if your friends house your bankrupt and homeless butt in their guest cabin, they will get carpetbagged.
>>541359890This is the literal definition of yield curve control
Bessent here. Do you losers realize it is time for the big dick. Everyone is getting fucked in the ass. So bend over the big dick is coming for all of you. This shit is so funny. Every night I fuck my partner in the ass and we both laugh our asses off thinking everyone is going to get fucked in the ass. Glorious. Bend over here it comes.
>>541362645>Basically everything Trump does is corruption/stealing.Yes, but the only difference to earlier administrations is that he does it completely in the open. That is actually great. He is also exposing jewish power in America by giving them what they want openly and proclaiming how he is a great friend of the jews. He is also insulting the exceptionally haughty gaggle of european prime ministers and chancellors. From the outside its hilarious. I would vote for him if I could precisely because he is doing what he is doing now. He is a total genius in his own way. BTW Trump Derangement Syndrome is endemic in Sweden. It has like 99% penetration here. They dont understand why americans voted for Trump and they dont care. All they care about is that they can gain social status points by denouncing Donald Trump. There was even this guy from a conservative think tank proposing that every individual american should be forced to take responsibility somehow for Donald Trumps victory in 2024.
>>541362645you lost tranny
>>541363109>How the fuck are you supposed to work if you can't live anywhere or get to work? You'd literally be better off fleeing the country or killing yourself.Ah, swedes have a very easy solution to that. "Aaaah so you have no car and live in a shed with 20 other bankrupt bums thats bad and all but I gots mine muddafukka so I dont care". Thats the typical standard response applied on this social problem. If you get super poor, then the relative social status distance between you and some swede who isnt super poor increases, meaning that he gains in social status. The more low status people there is, the more of upper class gentry he becomes. So how is your poverty his problem? You becoming a loser makes him a winner in the social status race that every swede is obsessed with. The american boomer mentality is widespread among swedes of all ages. That is why it is desireable that so many swedes as possible go bankrupt and become debt peons. In practice these people will have to flock together in flophouses and ride the bus or bike to work, then they get to keep $600 per month + rent, the rest is garnished, and it wont even cover the interest on their debt. Its not as if they will have any problem moving or living in a tiny space since they wont have any space consuming possessions left. The unlucky ones will have to live on basic welfare, which is about $400 per month + rent. And all this because of Trump letting Bibi do as he wants to. Trump is the great bringer of humiliation to haughty and stupid people who he has never met. That is divine in a way.
>>541361494>>541362182>>541363535>>541364219>>541364952Learned a bunch, thanks Swe.
>>541360667This graph implies the dollar has lost 25x value, (96% of it's value since 1900). The price of a buffalo pelt was 3 cents in 1880, and since a buffalo pelt is closer to $3000 instead of $3, we can assume the dollar has lost not 99% of it's intrinsic value, but more like 99.999% of it's value in the last 150 years. I have hundreds of pounds of rice, beans, oats, powdered meal substitutes, vitamin supplements, etc. It will happen in your lifetime.
>>541364952>The more low status people there is, the more of upper class gentry he becomes.This is also why swedes doesnt see mass immigration as a problem. It elevates their social status in life. They do not percieve the swarthoids and negroes as a threat in any way because the single and absolutely most dominant reality perception axis is social status where swarthoids and negroes are perpetually beneath them.
>>541359825and how does this fuck me in the ass? because im sure it does.
>>541362154inflation is purchasing power erosion.Loss is literally buying toxic assets
>>541363463neck yourself memeflag
>>541365508i need to plow a vivek into this jeeta
>>541360814>>541361016>>541361838Have a you, for being one of the few people on this mongolian basketweaving site with a brain.
>>541365409>99.999Holy fuck, it's basically dead.
>>541358940The DOW is at 53,000!
>>541362645This how every elected official operates. A person chosen to be " President" is really good at fucking goyim over so he gets the top golem position from his jewish masters.
>>541367118yeah all the money go to stock market casino instead of treasuries for obvious reasons. Basically US treasury lost control over economic situation in the country and trump is proud of it.
>>541360387>decades of decadenceDecadence means having too much and sinning of sloth and pride, rotting in your own riches
>>541359959buying and selling debt, interest, derivatives, bonds, stocks, etfs, the whole nine yards. All these forms of parasitic speculation and exploitation will need to go.
>>541358940Five ate nein
>>541360305Its like you taking out a 10% home loan to repay your existing 2% home loan. Thats how desperate the US is becoming to put lipstick on the obvious bubble that is their economy
>>541358940>"buys" long term bonds to sell short term bonds at higher yields>debt is owed much faster and at higher rates>already at $40 trillion in debt with more trillions of debt expected to be added, much more than the Treasury AccountThe dollar is dead
>>541358940no, he is here to rape this country and the goyim in it.>>541359426top goy right here
>>541362182Norway is believe it or not even worse than Sweden when it comes to how debt is handled.A small sum of say 500 NOK may go to something called inkasso which is what amerifats call "collection", but on steroids at which point they can just add zeros to the debt and fees for this and that via automated systems handled by private companies and just like in Sweden the state are in bed with these parasites and will ensure that they get what they are owed using legal means. It is essentially debt getting sold and traded in the most perverse way imaginable where the end result is that something that started out as a small telephone bill may bankrupt people for life.What is fascinating is that even leftists don't seem to think this system is unfair. There seems to be an aversion against thinking deeper about money and finance.
>>541358940ACCELERATE
How much longer until hyper inflation or economic collapse?
>>541368409it will end with The Great Taking, I have no idea of how and when tho
