Or is he just a historical outlier?
>>541771382yeah
>>541771382you think there will be a president after him?
America will continue to decline, but I don't think they'll have such an incompetent figurehead, with inbred tunnel kikes pulling is strings.
Every administration in my lifetime gets worse that the one before it. Until the jewish problem is dealt with nothing will change in a positive manner.
>>541771617Antisemite
>>541771432fippy bippy, unfortunately.
Things can always get worse
>>541771617>Obama worse than Bush
>>541771660is there something wrong with antisemitism?
>>541771759
>>541771382There won't be another
>>541771524Based Knower
>>541771382when boomers die
>>541771767Yes, it's dumb. Do you really think there is a cabal of Jewish people controlling everything to make everything stuff you don't like? We know the world is under control of a pedophilic and possibly cannibalistic cabal of elites all being blackmailed for committing the most heinous crimes with some of the members being Jewish, but that speaks more about the 1% than Jewish people. The elite really don't give a shit if you're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindi, or Scientologist. They don't care if you're black or white or brown or red or yellow. All they care about is that you are either in their circle or not. And they only let people into the circle either by being born in it or having blackmail to control your behavior.
>>541771382He ain't doing too bad, but anon suspects his newest batch of advisors do not truly have America's best interests at heart.
He's only the first beast. The second's much worse.
>>541771382Are you daring Israel ?
>>541771382Unless the constitution is amended in ways to prevent it, nothing prevents another Trump from happening. You won't get those amendments without more than a 2/3 majority of congress.
Yes, because as long as Israel comes first it can always be worse.
>>541772206This administration never read the US Constitution to begin with. They just force shit through regardless of checks and balances.
>>541771382You have no idea how bad Bush II was. That man literally took all our money and bailed out banks all while waging an endless war where every town knew somebody killed.
>>541771382He's the greatest leader Israel has ever known, what are you even on about?
>>541772300Yeah Bush II was bad. Trump is considerably worse.
>>541772091why yes there is an evil cabal of jewish pedo cannibals that control the west, but they blackmail goys too so it's all cool, stop being antisemiticuh... that's your argument?
>>541772300So? They voted for him after he started both then they all voted for McCain. Nothing gets a conservative more satisfied than dead American teenagers.
>>541771382It's just going to get worse, right to the point kikes have desensitised you so much they'll just assume direct control, and then muttmerica will finally collapse.
for all the blackpills these days, i think we should take comfort that the JQ has gone mainstream, people are throwing roman salutes on live broadcasts, and some people are rising above party politics to recognize we have domestic enemy and traitors who need to be dealt with. And this time around with the world gone global, they'll be nowhere from them to go.
>>541772657You're just gonna turn into the spiritual equivalent of an Arab country with a gradually less representative ruling class and the death of the republic. Oh and in case you're having wet dreams, there is no such thing as a revolution of the people by the people. The masses are headless.
>>541771382> will there ever be a presidency ... again?no. america is dead
>>541771382Trump is the greatest president.MAGA
>>541772886>no. america is deadI wish that were true. It'd mean their strongest asset is gone and the vessel of so much corruption and perversion is gone. Unfortunately, you're wrong. You're just looking at the raw, unfiltered picture of what your country looks like now that the soma is gone
>>541771382Biden was way worse.
>>541771382in decaying democracies usually you get one shit president after anotherbecause a shit president is rarely an accident; usually it means that either the electorate is low quality, or that the elite class that funds and provides the public with politicians is rotten, or both at the same timeif anything it's gonna get worse, people will be nostalgic for the times of trump the same time people are acting as if "biden wasn't all that bad"
>>541772778Any movement will need to be by necessity headless, leaderless, our rulers have no issues killing leaders, but that does make them sloppy and lazy, they don't really have a good plan if enough single cells go operational
>>541773099>biden wasn't all that badlike "clinton wasnt all that bad"
>>541771382Wilson presided over the income tax and Federal Reserve, and was the main architect of the League of Nations. He was the only POTUS to be fully indoctrinated with a PhD (in history and political science). He ran on no wars, then joined WW1. I guess, in a way, Trump and Wilson are similar. Just replace schooling with the entertainment industry. But the good news is that Trump still has a few years left. He can take that #1 slot if he tries.
>>541771382probably in 50 to 100 years
>>541773369There is no such a thing as a successful revolution without a thinking head, and there is no such a thing as a revolution without organization.You're deluding yourself.
>>541773099You make it sound like we voted for this. We voted for no new wars, secure borders, affordable energy, affordable food, and deporting all the illegals. He did a 180 as soon as he got in the second time.
>>541771382You libtoids were saying this about Bush
>>541772300So has Trump.
>>541773516Hey, I'm just a free thinking centrist who happens to think all Democrat presidents are good and all Republican presidents are bad.
>>541773092Not by any meaningful metric, no. I guess you could argue he was specifically worse on border security, but beyond that, he was a better president in every objective measure of quality.
>>541773607>He did a 180 as soon as he got in the second time.You'd be sucking his cock if he succeeded in Iran like he did in Venezuela and if the world caved to his tarrifs though. See, he's the same man as in the 1st term and the situation of all americans actually worsened after his 1st term. It piles up. At first you don't notice it, but when it reaches a certain treshold suddently it becomes unbearable.He even did his best to start a war with Iran in his 1st term. Left the JCPOA and reimposed sanctions. Seized their tankers. Killed their top general to trigger a casus belli out of nowhere. Allowed an assassination streak on scientists. At that time, their non reaction was perceived as odd. His entire cabinet was dual national israelis for fucks sake.
>>541773622Correct, because Bush was noticeably the worst president in modern memory to that point. Trump is somehow much worse.>>541773516>>541773708Neither Biden nor Clinton were good, but they both had qualities and signed some pieces of legislation which made the country better. Trump and Bush Jr. have no legislative legacy beyond tax cuts which have bankrupted the country, large increases in the military budget to start wars with and unconstitutional surveillance programs. They are very obviously the worst presidents of all time, but Trump's corruption, hostility to our real allies, complete deference to Israel, protection of pedophiles and open hostility towards the American people makes him far worse.
>>541771382Worse even.
>>541771382>Will There Ever Be Will there? Statistically and historically, Yes.
Seethe, tranny
>>541773950Tranny seethe
>>541773578We don't need a revolution, just a collapse.
>>541773912>if he succeeded in Iran like he did in VenezuelaWait until the Iranians make him free Maduro. There was a tweet early in the conflict with a picture of Maduro with the caption "All political prisoners must be freed" that was sent out by the Iranians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRUsaYzlcHE
>>541771524>you think there will be a president after him?Trump wants to be the last, he will push the nuke button just before he croaks, setting off WWIII
>>541771382It sure is a chaotic presidency, no doubt
>>541774786W-WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT
>>541771382He's not even the worst president of this century, get over yourself ffs.>Bush>Starts 2 wars that cost a trillion dollars or more that got us literally nothing but thousands of dead men and many more who are now afraid of fireworks>Biden>Printed trillions of dollars while shutting down the entire economy, causing inflation to skyrocketIts pretty sad that King Nigger was unironically the best president since the turn of the millennium
>>541775023>>Bush>>Starts 2 wars that cost a trillion dollarsTrump has added much more to the debt than Bush and also started an unwinnable Middle Eastern quagmire, which may not have as many casualties, but has done far more damage to the global economy.>>Biden>>Printed trillions of dollars while shutting down the entire economy, causing inflation to skyrocketThat was Trump. The economy reopened shortly after Biden entered office.
>>541775023Trump added $11.6tn debt to the $40tn national debt. More than 1 in 4 dollars in the debt is because of Trump. He's far worse than Bush could ever dream of. Voting for Trump might end up being looked back on as the end of the American empire.
>>541775466ONLY 1 DOLLAR IS DRUMF DEBT THATS A TERRIFICALLY LOW NUMBER 1 DOLLAR LIKE 4 QUARTERS THATS NOTHING CHUMP CHANGE
>>541775556>Trump supporter doesn't understand fractionsanother fine product of the American public education system
>>541775606AMERICA IS 4 DOLLARS IN DEBT THATS LIKE NO DEBT AT ALL 4 DOLLARS OF DEBT OH NODID YOU KNOW AMERICAS GDP IS 32 TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR EACH AND EVERY YEAR
>>541775688Bodied that freak.
>>541772657>for all the blackpills these daysBeing blackpilled right now just means your life sucks and its your fault. The stuff happening with this admin would have seemed like a fever dream to pol anons 10 years ago(when this board had a 2 sd higher IQ than it does now).
>>541771382nope this is the last one time for revelations
>>541775466Thanks for chiming in guy from a chink(or is it jeet now?) colony.
>>541771382Imperfect metric, but if you judge a president by the state of the country when he took office as compared to when he left, Dubya is easily still the worst president of my lifetime and probably the worst ever. I mean the entire 21st-century has been an unmitigated disaster for the United States, but the fall off in those first eight years was particularly dramatic
>>541775903Who knew this board still had so many loud and proud MIGAs? I would have thought you guys had killed yourself by now out of humiliation, but apparently not
>>541771382He makes Bill Clinton look like the greatest Statesman in history. Clinton today would be a great Republican moderate president. Why has politics declined so hard?
>>541775953the oil black swan event happened and gas is still cheaper than it was under Biden for like 2 years, lol. I know it's ass expensive in the western countries that are still doubling down on neoliberalism like yours and that sucks. Maybe you queers will put up a fight someday though(probably not).
>>541771382he is literally the best president in your lifetime so far
>>541776526>the oil black swan event happenedTrump created that event you dumb piece of filth. There's no reason gas prices should be high right now except Netanyahu blackmailed Trump into starting an unnecessary war with Iran and he was too incompetent to say no, so now the entire world has to suffer because of your personal stupidity voting this dude in
>>541776645You're emotional like a woman. Get a hold of yourself, lol
>>541776703>Vote for someone that destroys the entire global economy when everyone warned you this would happen>lol why are you so upsetretard
>>541771382Buchanan and Johnson I think still might have been arguably worse. But he's definitely worse than Pierce, so it puts him bottom 3. What's up with the eyebrows lately? The pic on the right was from today. They are getting massive.
>>541776724Is your economy really that fucked? That's pretty funny. Only change here is marginally higher gas prices.
>>541771524ThisTrump only got elected because they didn’t think he could win. Then they came after him with everything they had and he got elected again.Then he didn’t even fucking bother to hold them accountable kek.
>>541776769>Buchanan and Johnson I think still might have been arguably worseThey really weren't. Buchanan was the worst president before Bush Jr., but the idea he's uniquely terrible because he caught the hot potato of sectional divides finally leading to secession is unfair. And he actually handled the post-secession lameduck period relatively well, which is virtually impossible to imagine Trump doing. Johnson has numerous accomplishments, especially as it relates to foreign policy and taming what could have been a really horrible postbellum inflation crisis.
>>541771382It's still not as bad as Bush's tenure, but it has room to grow.
>>541771382Yeah, the next one.
No there wont. Because there won't be a "United" states. And sooner than you think.
Controversial opinion thats bound to get me flayed.I think both TDS people and TES people are both fucking retarded.Trump is not literally heckin hitler who’s gonna destroy the world and cause Israel to rule what remains or whateverHowever Trump is not the perfect god emperor that can do no wrong and isn’t going to turn America into this perfect paradise free of *insert race you hate here*. Removing all biases and looking at things from the most objective perspective he is at best a mediocre president who’s done some stupid shit thats gonna take some time to heal, and at worst is a bad president who fucked up a few things and will require at least a decade to fix the major damage caused.
>>541772300I dunno man I still think this is worse. Not saying Bush was good at all. But more like “wtf is this”
>>541772091Jesus, shut the fuck up, you retard
>>541777355Yeah it's pretty crazy how people just aggressively ignore Bush getting millions of people killed, with about half of that being directand how he lied about the scope and expense of multiple wars, and didn't even put almost any of the Iraq war on budget at all, leaving it entirely for the next president And he compelled the SEC to stop monitoring several specific banks....I could go on and on, it's crazy how much harmful things he did to the USA and nobody even mentions it ever The fact that he ignored a report that said an attack was imminent right before 9/11 should have gotten him impeached, just by itself, no other considerations. Trump might even be a net benefit just from warpspeed alone, although this board is too susceptible to eastern propagandists to talk about an adult subject such as that.
Trump will end so disastrously the presidency will be abolished or made ceremonial.
>>541772099>He ain't doing too badWhat has he accomplished aside from deporting a tiny fraction of illegals if his stated numbers are correct, and giving a huge tax break to the wealthy?
>>541771382He's the GOAT. Completely demolished the MSM and US/global politics. He pulled the curtain open for everyone to see the show. Imagine if he hadn't come around. We'd never even know Epstein exists without him.
>>541779032truth nuke
>>541778261Irreversible is the world anon. Irreversible as in, by the end of this 2nd term, he's already compromised the US position in ways that even 2 or 3 decades won't reverse.
>>541773729Biden let in hordes of illegals that accelerated the decline in quality of life and the economy. Most affordability issues Trump is blamed for were the fault of Biden’s handlers. Outside Iran Trump has been fine. Nobody buys this bullshit.
President AOC will be worsePresident Vivek will be worse than thatAfter that I will become President Butt Naked and cannibalize random shitskins on TV.
>>541772091kike
>>541778261>Midwit "both sides are wrong, I'm very intelligent" take
>>541771382The next one. The one before was worse too. The iran war is a historic blunder and he's a wretched kike puppet, but the dems are going to go for the jugular again and we're going to get a whole lot worse. I want to bitch more about the iran war and talk about how they're the good guys, but too many retards are using that as a lever to try to make everyone forget just how bad Biden was and the rabid third worldism of the left.
>>541779214>Biden let in hordes of illegals that accelerated the decline in quality of life and the economy. Most affordability issues Trump is blamed for were the fault of Biden’s handlers. Outside Iran Trump has been fine. Nobody buys this bullshit.Exactly and Iran has been a nothingburger anyway. When their government comes crawling back to the negotiation table in a month and we get everything we want with less than 50 days of hostilities and zero ground troops, a lot of people ITT are going to be feeling stupid.
>>541771382You lost tranny!
>>541779333Never claimed I was intelligent, I am in-fact far from it. But you already pointed that out.
>>541779110Then might I ask how we hypothetically reverse it? Do we perhaps kill him? I’m sure that’d make plenty of people happy now wouldn’t it.
>>541779341Just another two weeks, huh anon? Were burgers, but all Trump wants to do is TACO.
>>541778261>who’s done some stupid shit thats gonna take some time to healI don't think you realize how destroyed America's reputation is internationally. This is not going to be fixed in a decade, because the American voting public can't be trusted to not just vote in another Trump in a few years. These changes are permanent, the whole world is cutting trade ties with the US and moving to Europe and China.
>>541771759Yes retard.
>>541779478The way i see it, you have no agency to do anything anymore. You're just a passive observer from now on so observe.
>>541779547>the whole world is cutting trade ties with the US and moving to Europe and ChinaProbably one of the stupidest posts ITT. You need to unplug from the Internet.
>>541775023Bush at least had the excuse of 9/11 thrust upon him, but the Iraq war was wholly unjustified and people were loudly critical of it. Trump dives headlong into the shitbucket by his own free will.>Muh bidenflationTrump had the moneyprinter go brrrr as crazy, or did you forget how people sucked off his Trumpbucks?Though truth be told I don'believe any other admin would have done much different given the circumstances, but he certainly had a large part in it no matter how much you try to deny it.I wonder how a narcissist like Trump handles the record low approval numbers and the heckling at every public event. Probably as badly as they all do and surround himself with butt kissers. But what he thought would cement a glorious legacy has ensured he will be a president who's death will be celebrated by his own countrymen. Must be hard to swallow.
>>541779493>but all Trump wants to do is TACO.You sound like any other liberal faggot, lol
>>541779855Surprised you can type while working your new masters pole, anon. Keep up your industrious spirit, you little brown man!
>>541779855They say he's Hitler yet also say he's a coward, as though they're trying to egg him on. A guy of Trump's status looks down on them like filthy peasants.
>>541780233>They say he's Hitler yet also say he's a coward, as though they're trying to egg him on.It's totally incoherent, but this is what happens when you have women and male liberals in charge of your messaging.
>>541780448It's so passive aggressive it's obnoxious. We all knew kids like them in school and we always hated those faggots and bitches. Theater kids and other assorted dorks. Even the science kids thought they were gay. You look at the guys on their side and you can only imagine giving them swirlies, except for Hunter Biden because he's a gangster too. Literally the only cool dem with aura. And he also has a big dick so it makes sense, high-T. Every single other one is a massive dork.
>>541780570>It's so passive aggressive it's obnoxious.Yup and it's also very transparent that they're just saying whatever sounds good in the moment rather than having any sort of coherent or logical thought process behind it. One minute he's the most evil and destructive human who ever lived and the next, a little pussy who is too scared to do anything.
>>541772091>Do you really think there is a cabal of Jewish people controlling everythingYes
>>541779615I think you need to read more, Europe and China has signed several massive new free trade agreements in just the past 6 months as everyone diversifies away from the US
>>541773729The entire reason Trump won for the second time was because Biden drove up prices for everything we took for granted in his first year and he did nothing to stop illegal immigration. When Biden was in charge, my city looked like El Salvador. Whatever Trump is doing with ICE, it's working, because things look normal again and I don't see ANY squat, dirty, bean shaped spics everywhere I turn. Kill yourself, libfag queer.
>>541780818NAFTA destroyed the US. Enjoy! You people really have no clue what you're getting into. Easily scammed. Europeans have a very naive nature about the world.
>>541776645The other option was an incompetent poojeetess adulteress whore who sucked and fucked her way to the top, and she also had a LITERAL Jewish husband with Mossad ties. Tell the Dems to put up a straight white male who wants America to become a 92% Anglo nation as it was before the Hart Cellar Act (a Jewish conceived bill, btw) and maybe they'll win. But right now the Democratic party is seen as the party of weakness and absolute faggotry that nobody wants to be associated with besides limp wristed seething liberal brown fudgepackers like you.
>>541780913We understand just fine, there is no manufacturing industry here already. Using trade barriers to artificially stop competition is dumb anyway. All it does is force you to buy overpriced, poorly made cars to 'support local industry', instead of exposing your local industry to competition that would lower prices and improve quality.
>>541780959Imagine accusing the left of being 'fudgepackers' when half of Trump's cabinet is gay or gay adjacent. Most of the right-wing influencer sphere are closeted gay. Talk about projection
>>541781010> 10 years of TDS and NO YOU posting He's president for 2.5 more years, Mohammad. Nothing you can do about it.
>>541781049>no actual rebuttalI accept your concession. Trump's mentor died of AIDS for gods sake, imagine accusing the left of being too gay
>>541780913>Europeans have a very naive nature about the world.the nigger and muslim problem confirms this and they're now welcoming jeets along with canada. luckily people in america are inherently racist even the so called anti racists have their limits and jeets push past all of them.
>>541780984You don't rebuild a manufacturing base overnight, but the faster you start the faster you can get back on the horse. And necessity is the mother of invention. You provide investment capital and a good reason, and you can get things up and running. Even if a collapse happens, if you have the infrastructure up and ready to go, you can recover faster. China knows this too, they are quite shrewd and always have been.
>>541781108US manufacturing base is imploding and has been since NAFTA was signed, Trump has done nothing to stop and tariffs have just made Americans poorer, not improved manufacturing employment. China is too far ahead now. Bill Clinton fucked us all and it cannot be fixedThe important thing is to double down on what the west is better at, which is high skill jobs like scientific research, but Trump is fucking that up too by defunding it all
>>541781198It'll be fine. Lots of construction going on.
>>541771382Look, I'm promising I'll do worse, but if I can count on your vote in 2028 I'll give it my best shot.
>>541771759Obama was worse than Bush. Obama was so bad he actually revived the republican party.Only foreigners think things were better under Obama and that's a BAD thing.
>>541774516Maduro sold himself
>>541771382If Democrats continue being supreme fucking retards, shoving trannies and culture war shit everywhere, then more Trumps will simply be spite-elected.That's the reality. And DNC is showing no signs of wanting to improve. So more Kremlin-aligned puppets for you lol
>>541771382hes on pace to be responsible for 43% of our TOTAL debt, i sincerely doubt we will ever have a president as bad as donald j trump, oh and those spending projections imply spending DOESN'T INCREASE and we know he's going to spend like a mother fucker when he realizes its over and his legacy is destroyed i completely expect trump to be vindictive and "loot the coffers" and give pardons to everyone before leaving office.
>>541771382Bad in that he isn't doing what the deep state wants? See no matter how criminal and corrupt a president is as long as he's going along with plan he will be shielded from criticism. Step out of line, go against the puppet masters in the shadows, like Trump did, and suddenly you become enemy number oneSeethe harder you kike trolls. Nothing is going back to how you want it. Everyone is wise to your crimes and they'll never ever forget it
>>541771382
>>541771382The less white US becomes, the more retarded politicians will be. United States of Argentina is the endgame.
>>541779214>Biden let in hordes of illegalsreminder that Trump deliberately killed a bipartisan border bill in mid 2024
>>541782124He even admitted he killed it because he need an uncontrolled border to run on for the 2024 election, not because it was bad legislation
>>541771382He's not a bad president, just an obnoxious and corrupt one who fucks all US allies. Also a slave to jewish interests, but that's most US presidents for the last 80 years.Closing the borders and protectionism was necessary (inflation be damned).
>>541771382Well the Dems are actually as good as a dead party now. So dunno.
>>541782124There was no need to pass a bill, none. They made agents stand down and let illegals in. Biden's admin even went and stopped states from securing the border.
>>541782345All because jews wanted an unrestricted war and they needed Republican dominance.
>>541780857>because Biden drove up pricesKek no, the money printing during covid which trump happily engaged in did, but lucky for him the effects takes a while.Honesty covid probably saved trump in a lot of ways.
>>541782605Trump knows 2020 was a massive, inexcusable fuck up, which is why the graphic he shows at all his rallies misleadingly shows his term ending in Jan 2020, not Jan 2021. It speaks volumes about the intellectual calibre of his supporters that nobody seems to notice this.
>>541771382.He's not bad, it's TDS for you.
We voted Trump in to close our goddamn border, not save australia.
>>541778261His election exposed that the fbi picks candidates and winners by illegally using surveillance created to fight foreign terror networks and planting fake stories in our media which is run by the intelligence community. By turning a blind eye to this Trump ended the American experiment. That may sound dramatic but everyone saw it happen and everyone saw Trump do absolutely nothing about it.His weakness and stupidity will echo through time.
>>541778845You’re thinking of JFK.
>>541779478If he were to admit he’s stupid and resign it would go a long way. But he doesn’t have the integrity.
>>541781905>Bad in that he isn't doing what the deep state wants?He’s doing EXACTLY what the deepstate wants, you fucking moron.
>>541771767Only that it's classed as racism. Anti-zionist opinions, however, are allowed and protected even in Britain.
I think he's great.
>>541780818Money is money, retard. How sheltered are you?
>>541771432FPBP>>541771382We thought Bush was the worst a president could humanly be. We thought Obama was horrible and seethed about it daily. Now Trump makes Obama, for all his flaws, seem like a benevolent genius by comparison. It just gets worse.
>>541781469Oh wow, a fake graph from boomer facebook feeds. It must be true! MIGA!
>>541781469Cancer survival rates have increased much more rapidly since ACA was implemented. You know, because actually sick people are more able to afford treatment instead of letting they die?
>>541771382you lost tranny>>541773003this, President Trump is an alpha chad roaring lion who always wins
>>541783835I don't think you realize how quickly the world is changing, moving away from any dependency on the US
>>541779214>Most affordability issues Trump is blamed for were the fault of Biden’s handlersWrong, Biden didn't do tariffs or fuck up the world's oil supply. These are things trump inflicted on the American people willingly. The prices under Biden were due to covid which is beyond his control.
>>541775688See those long bond yields flying over your house around 5% and are preparing for a next shot upwards? That’s the sign of your home being foreclosed soon.
>>541779615He's right. Even Canada, our biggest trade partner, is moving towards china because trump has fucked up relations between canada and america.
>>541784113Yeah my map is old, I would be surprised if there were any blue patches left on the map. Everyone has dropped Trump's US like a hot coal
>>541782367Yeah, I'd like a citation for that
>>541771382Worse than Joe Biden?
>>541784113Okay, keep me posted.
I hate Trump but Obama was way worse just by virtue of being an actual nigger. As bad as Clinton, Bush, Biden and Trump have been they're White men and they're the fucking President and that's based and deserves some respect
>>541771382Trump spent twice the amount of money in the same amount of time that biden did while also causing said wars that increased oil prices. Biden invested on US chip manufacturing while Trump gave them money to buy up all said chips raising the price of personal computing by 500%.
>>541772099>He ain't doing too badChecked and kek'd. Politically and economically destroying America in a couple of years isn't "too bad". There will be no bounce back from what Trump has done. It's over.
>>541784548None of that matters. The most based thing Biden did was mass redpill everyone by making it so obvious democrats want to destroy the country. He did more for the far right than anyone ever has. Trump only mass bluepills everyone, it's gay. That's the argument you need to be making.
>>541784283Many who voted for Biden only did it to spite Trump. They will either deny they ever did, or cognitive dissidence will kick in hard trying to justify what they did.
YesJews will spare no expense boosting another Zionist into the Democrats.
>>541771382After having an election stolen, two impeachments, numerous felony allegations, two serious assassination attempts and a first term where no one wanted to work with him...it shouldn't surprise anyone that he's bitter, jaded and only looking out for himself now.
>>541775903Considering 1/4 of your country is illegal immigrants, 13% of citizens are black, and 35% are Hispanic, you're in no position to talk paco.
>>541784810>After having an election stolenEven Trump admitted this was bullshit, time to update your talking points>Trump acknowledges losing the 2020 election 'by a whisker'>The former president admitted during a podcast appearance that he did not win the election against Biden.
>>541784018No, you're right chinky man. The US is alone with no where to spend their money. No foreign company will ever do business with us again. :(
>>541784283>Biden at the height of global supply lines collapsing during covid>Trump, completely self inflicted cause he wanted to bomb peopleTrump came into office with $2.25 gas from biden. All he had to do to keep it there was nothing. He couldn't even do that
>>541783835>The US>Has money.
>>541784920Dramatic, but he makes a good point. Even before Trump alienated everybody and encouraged them to try and decouple from the US or risk coercion through economic ties things were already shifting to China due to the production base our elites sold off to them for shareholder claps.
>>541785176You may be surprised to find out it does. Your women come here for white glory, not money though.
>>541771382Best President in the past 50 years and voting Trump in 2028.
>>541771382>historical outlierlmaorighteverything in history happened by chancea pedophile soulless violent jewish cum slurping fraudster can only become king in a land of pedophile soulless violent jewish cum slurping fraudstersthe whole USA need to be glassed and every single one of its pr*testant inhabitants need to be slaughtered like the cattle they arethird world with a golden beltresponsible for literally every conflict in the world in the last 150 yearsjust because they really really wanted to be 1st place jewish cum slurpers with no risk of rivalsI will cum to each and any still warm corpse of every american killed in the coming chinese millennium
>>541785289It's pretty obviously going to be the case that everyone looks for alternative trade arrangement when Trump takes a gigantic shit on all the US's traditional allies by tariffing their goods, falsely claiming that they were exploiting the US. Australia. US has a trade surplus with us (the opposite of exploitation) and we still got hit with a non-negotiable 10% tariff. Of course we are signing alternative trade deals and diversifying away from the US
>>541773607you should fucking blow a .50 cal desert eagle right now you fucking subhuman animalyou are not a personyou are a drone, no different from an animal and as such you should be treatedin the coming times, in better times, you would be put against a wall and no one on earth would feel bad pulling the trigger
>>541785064Retired boomer here enjoying the beach life
>>541785653Good. Enjoy it. You're gonna die soon.
>>541771382Best president ever
>>541785740Then why did the prices of everything shoot up? You know those prices don't come back down, right?
>>541785481And I don't blame you guys in the slightest. For the nation that stood by us unquestioningly in so many conflicts both military and otherwise we did you dirty. All to then side with a nation who does none of those things and still demands we fight their wars.
>>541785843You can thank your boy Biden. Pull up a graph of inflation
>>541785481So on the one hand you boast that you have a trade deficit with the US, but then out of the other side of your mouth you seethe about a 10% tariff? Wouldn't that give you more to boast about?
>>541785289>decouple from the USThe US doesn't fucking produce anything. There's nothing to decouple from. I guess by "decouple" you mean, they can no longer dump their products on US consumers? The US should be making those products. If we had, that would actually make countries want to couple with us. I mean if we make everything.
>>541785985Prices went up THIS YEAR. You can't pin that on Biden.Well, you can try, but no one will believe you.
>>541771382Both I guess?A large part of why Trump is perceived as worst president is because of the actually incompetent and evil things he doesBut also a large part of it is that Trump doesn't even try to conceal how incompetent and evil the shit he's doing is. He'll just literally say>We're bombing these people cuz there's money in itand>I'm cutting school funding because I need poor kids to go into the military and>If bond yields don't fall I'll start a new warIt's like he believes every leftist factual claim about how the US government works, and just thinks that's based.
>>541771382Trump has done more to make normies aware of the Jewish Problem than every single other person combined in the last 20 yearsHe's also demonstrated the futility of power projection in the middle eastJew Status: Jewed
>>541786189Let me put it in consequences you'll understand.Companies here that export (yes we still have industry, usually at the end of the production chain, but also services) will find it much much harder to sell overseas. This means fewer jobs here, and a smaller economy.We'll also be able to import less from the rest of the world. Meaning input goods for our tail-end of the supply chain manufacturing will get more expensive. This will raise prices of stuff further, but also we won't be able to buy cheap shit that we don't produce at low prices either.tldr: Inflation, and less money being made overall. Please study economics before trying to talk about it anon. If you want specific market examples I can give them.
>>541771432fpbp
>>541786608Yeah. You can't suck that much jew cock without america noticing. And Israel and AIPACs approvals are in the fucking shitter
>>541771382A man that prioritizes money and fame over everything else in life and rapes kids is not based.Fuck trump.
>>541786608His lack of tact actually doing some good kek
>>541771382Already did. His predicecor.
>>541771660Die in a oven race traitor>>541771759>Pajeet whininggo back to india and suck jew dick, hindu caste
>>541781469Like how Trump did with Biden? Imagine losing to Biden in an election.
>>541786064This is not contradictory. If the US has a trade surplus with us, it makes no sense to impose tariffs. And the US is importing massive amounts of beef from us at the moment, because RFK allowed the US herds to get infected with screwworm and Trump is still punishing us. It's disgusting, I don't see how US reputation recovers from Trump's second term
>>541771382>Will there ever be a presidency as bad as this again?Only in USA and other Third World countries, but I seriously doubt even USA can find such a multi-sicko again.
>>541772091Tik tok jew
No. Trump is a once-in-a-lifetime president. Your grandchildren or great grandchildren will have theirs.
>>541777239Buchanan actively colluded with Taney to repeal the Missouri Compromise, essentially kicking off the war. And his own Sec. of War smuggled arms to the rebels. That alone does it for me, worst oathbreaker. Johnson's blanket pardon including of Jeff Davis does the same. I guess we just have different tolerances for treason in a President.
>>541771382i think he's an outlier because he's brazenly retarded. many presidents are corrupt and evil, but they have the intelligence to dial it back and hide most of it from the general public.
>>541771382Assuming you mean 'bad' in the slang sense, no. Trump is the baddest MF around.
>>541771382What will his sperg out be after the mid terms and he realizes he's a lame duck?
>>541789681>Buchanan actively colluded with Taney to repeal the Missouri Compromise, essentially kicking off the warPierce already undid the Missouri Compromise with Kansas-Nebraska and the Taney Court was always going to decide the way it did. >And his own Sec. of War smuggled arms to the rebelsIn contravention of the President and was fired for doing so.>Johnson's blanket pardon including of Jeff Davis does the sameJohnson was the only one between himself and Lincoln who ever wanted to prosecute Davis in the first place. It's very unlikely Lincoln wouldn't have eventually done a mass pardon of CSA leaders himself, considering he openly floated the idea to them during the Hampton Roads Conference.>I guess we just have different tolerances for treason in a President.Neither Buchanan nor Johnson were traitors. Johnson especially wasn't, considering he very easily could have joined the Confederacy. Trump is the guy who pardoned Aviem Sella, allows his cabinet to meet with Jonathan Pollard and is wholly deferential to Israel at the expense of our country.
>>541779214>Biden let in hordes of illegals that accelerated the decline in quality of life and the economyThe quality of life didn't decline and the economy objectively grew under Biden. Beyond that, Biden objectively utilized tariffs and antitrust bodies better than any president in modern memory and also had the biggest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower.>Most affordability issues Trump is blamed for were the fault of Biden’s handlersNope. Inflation was a global problem which is a result of the world economy reopening post COVID. >Outside Iran Trump has been fineNo he hasn't. He's objectively worse on the economy, just for starters.
>>541779341>When their government comes crawling back to the negotiation table in a monthIt was literally Trump who wanted the MOU because in his words "I don't want to be Herbert Hoover". (Hoover was a much better person and president than him, mind) Iran has no reason to negotiate with somebody who launched two illegal wars against them for a foreign country in the midst of negotiations.
>>541780857>The entire reason Trump won for the second time was because Biden drove up prices for everything we took for granted in his first yearNo. It was because of the global economy reopening and Trump's massive spending/liquidity injection during COVID.>When Biden was in charge, my city looked like El SalvadorIf your city looked like that, it's not going to change demographically just because there's a new president. You obviously live in a brown area.
>>541774919You never had to wonder what Biden was going to do next. He was so predictable
>>541781905>Bad in that he isn't doing what the deep state wants?You guys used to say the Deep State was the mix of the warmongering establishment of both political parties, who wanted cheap labor and cared about foreign countries at the expense of their own. Which by the way, is exactly how Trump has governed.
>>541782311>He's not a bad presidentHe definitely is, fren>Closing the bordersFWIW, Biden already did that in 2024.>and protectionism was necessaryI agree, but Trump has no understanding of trade and completely botched his tariff regime and needlessly ruined our trade relationship with numerous countries, most notably Canada, while letting China off the hook. As I said, Biden is the only president who has effectively implemented tariffs and prevented things like Japan buying US steel, which Trump allowed
>>541784283Now do January 2025, Biden's last month in office
>>541772284They have some of the top lawyers in the country to make sure everything Trump does is within Constitutional bounds or at least contestable in court.
>>541771382He's only "bad" if you're a shitskin third world invader or a self-hating faggot leftist. OP isn't white.
>>541792535>FWIW, Biden already did that in 2024.You're a fucking imbecile and don't deserve the right to vote.
>>541771382It's only bad if you're poor. Rich people love Trump. Especially rich Jewish families. They now make more money with their savings because of higher interest rates, they have no issues with employment because they hire their own, they automate and implement AI to hire less at the entry level, it's like the best president ever.
>>541793163The president doesn't control interest rates. The jew banks, aka the Fed do that. Also, 80% of kikes voted for Harris you moron.
>>541793157It's objectively true, retard. After Trump got the Republicans to abandon the border bill, Biden signed multiple EOs which got border crossings to their lowest non-lockdown levels since before Trump's big migrant waves in 2019.
>>541793317The fed is now 100% controlled by Trump, just like the SCOTUS. Sometimes they don't do what he asks but 90% of the time, they do. I'm a moron but you're naive and also a poorfag.
>>541771432FPBP and completely accurate.
>>541771610Seems like the more presidents we have before anarchy or a king will up the chances of someone worse. Maybe not as dumb, but as had or worse in effect
>>541771382jews control America so it'll be as bad as they want it to get
>>541793317>The jew banks, aka the Fed do thatIt was Trump's choice to make the new Federal Reserve chairman the son of the leader of the World Jewish Congress.
>>541771382Nah, people have always been melodramatic bitches, the internet just amplifies the whining.He's fine, certainly not the worst this century.And i mean if you can't even seriously countenance the question why this guy followed up Obama then in what position arr you to judge quality?Talk about glib eloquent conmen.
>>541773950>tax cuts which have bankrupted the countryYou are not smart enough to comment on anything political.
>>541771382Trump just showed the world how much jewish jews from kikeland have infected the usa & since canada is a litteral joke you can bet the likes here are litteral cuck gangsters weak ugly pathetic small losers who just pay low iq brain dead niggers and browns to take all the rise while they offer a few peanuts
>>541798613You're not. You can't increase spending and reduce revenue.
>>541785843Because Obama bombed Iran and now Trump has to use all his skills and wisdom to keep America afloat. It may seem like a dark time but remember- Trump is the one that locked up all the russiagate traitors and assured that the fbi won’t meddle in elections.Trump is too modest to say this about himself so I’ll say it for him. We are living in a golden age.
>>541774738Nero, is that you?
>>541771382Maybe if you started using pictures of what he really looks like now, people would be more likely to turn on him.>literally rotting sack of loose flesh that reeks of rancid feces
Trump's real approval rating is currently sitting around 65 percent, I'd hardly call that bad.
>>541772091The vast majority of people on this site are incapable of understanding the nuance and complexities of the power structures on this planet. Their simple brains need someone/something to blame for all of their problems, the same way a fictional story has one single antagonist. It's not their fault, they just don't have the capacity to make sense of anything else. Don't waste your time. Let them live in their oversimplified, children's book version of the world.
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>>541771382Hang yourself, commiefornian.
>>541792142>Iran has no reason to negotiate with somebody who launched two illegal wars against them for a foreign country in the midst of negotiations.Iran's going to negotiate because their economy is fucked and everyone is about to starve. Also, FYI you sound like some kind of queer.
>>541793728Of course you take the border bill that would have allowed 5000 new migrants to break into the country everyday forever seriously being a halfwit and all.
>>541771382The next one will be worse.Everything keeps getting worse as the West slides further towards economic catastrophe.
>>541802230What? Most polls have him somewhere in the 30s. That’s bush during the Iraq war bad
>>541771759Obama is categorically worse than Bush. You're a fucking retard.
One thing you'll notice is that it's always citizens of the most cucked western countries(Canada, UK, Aus, random euro countries) who project their cope over being ruled by deranged liberals and girlbosses onto Trump. They haven't even begun to organize or fight back against their subversion, so they lash out at Trump instead to feel better about the absolute state of their shitholes.
>>541781072>the side that openly celebrates faggots and sodemy and has several openly gay members is less gay than the other side because the president of that side had a mentor who was gay.Lol. Lmfao, even.
>>541783858>Obama who willfully engaged in race baiting, droned US citizens, sold weapons to drug cartels, fucked up Healthcare with ACA is a saint compared to trump. Lol.Lmfao, even.
>>541803092Look on the bright side, now that the redhats have rigged it so the president can be a dictator, we can get a real, honest to goodness lunatic like Caligula in a position of absolute power. Just think of the possibilities.>bankrupting the global economy with non-stop parties, orgies and MMA fights>forcing the senate to whore their wives to pay off the national debt>declaring war on the ocean to fight flooding and hurricanes>replacing every statue's head with your own>declaring yourself a living god>giving a senate seat to your favorite horseThe more I look at the record, the more I realize a complete mad man is what Americans want.
>>541804571You can tell a lot of the people falling for this kind of stuff are just new and weren't politically aware prior to the 2020s. It explains a lot of the recent retardation in the discourse.
>>541804760Trump isn't going to be a dictator, that's all bullshit like everything else he says.At his age he'll be lucky to finish up this term. You don't need a dictator anyway, the political class are just puppets and have no real say in anything that happens.
>>541804936And that's just the stuff off the top of my head. Obama was absolutely terrible, but the media loved him because it served their narrative. I might be wrong when I said Obama was worse than Bush, but I'd have to sit down and do comparisons. My intuition tells me I am not wrong, tho. Trump hasn't really been that terrible. Aside from the same corruption that was in his first cabinet (deep state willfully giving wrong information and delaying orders) and the Iran war, trump hasn't been that bad. The Iran war was going to happen regardless, considering (((they))) have been pushing for it for the last 40 years. The only difference would be how the media would spin it. Trump did it so it's bad and loose and trump is a dummy. If kamala did it, it'd be a powerful and serious move that the mighty girl boss had no choice but to make and will be celebrated for years to come. That said, I'm not huge on trump this term. I wish he'd focus on the homeland and tell Israel to fuck off. He's definitely been threatened, I doubt blackmail, because if it was blackmail, they wouldn't have tried to kill him in butler.
>>541805499>That said, I'm not huge on trump this termlol, you need to get better at tuning out the noise from the peanut gallery, which is full of retards anyway. The great things happening now on a near daily basis would have seemed like a right wing fever dream to the average 2016 poltard.
>>541771382The nation can't survive a president worse than this man.Frankly, I'm not sure if the nation is going to survive this century either way because of the sixty some-odd years of corruption that allowed this clown and many other clowns to be elected and appointed.
>>541802994No they won't.>>541803061No it wouldn't have.
>>541803302He objectively wasn't. Only a very retarded right-winger could think that.>>541803733This isn't the place to talk about your insecurities over women.
>>541805922You must've missed the two highest profile members of the civilian government admitting that they need a deal and can't survive without an economy just last week. It's ok, most people on nupol don't really know anything.
>>541805971lol, I'm married with a pregnant wife and kids unlike most of the miserable people on here(you).
>>541771382>Will there ever be a presidency as bad as this again.Never rule out hegseth either by the ballot or by a coup.
>>541771382Brother I don't think there will be an America let alone president once this fat kike is done
>>541806045This isn't /ptg/, retard. Taking quotes of context isn't actually evidence. Ghalibaf threatened further escalation today. And their economy isn't collapsing anytime soon, no matter how many times Zion Don says it has or that it's two weeks away. Also, fuck off pretending you'd know what /pol/ was like in 2016. Nobody was clamoring for $4.00 gas, another war for Israel, the protection of Epstein's sex network, the worst corruption in American political history and AI data centers
>>541778261>mediocre presidentYou have to be underage if you really believe that. No one has sucked as much jew cock as that fat fag.
>>541771759He was worse. You're retarded if you can't see that.
>>541806698Obama objectively was not worse than Bush. Bush and Trump are the worst presidents ever.
>>541771382Obama is a good contender for setting Trump up, but holy shit Trump 2 is awful
>>541806459You're just reading off a script of gripes like any other shill because your life sucks, lol. If you had an interest in the future, you'd feel differently about Trump, but you don't.
>>541806845The only shill here is you, sucking the tiny, circumcised orange dick of the worst president of all time.
>>541806115>17 posts seething about people calling Trump a faggot>”lol I’m not miserable like you”Even the tatted up trailer trash retard you married deserves better than you, god damn.
>>541805499>Obama worse than BushKek no. The nigger was bad but Bush was absolutely terrible. His two middle eastern wars changed the entire demographic of the country by sending a whole generation of young white men to their deaths
>>541784657>Many who voted for Biden only did it to spite Trump.True. I voted for Hillary, Biden, and Kamala because I didn't want to vote for a mentally retarded rapist. So I guess you could fairly spin that as me trying to "spite Trump", although I would state it more bluntly: I didn't want a mentally retarded rapist to be president.>They will either deny they ever did, or cognitive dissidence will kick in hard trying to justify what they did.I certainly do not deny that I voted for Hillary, Biden, and Kamala. I proudly declare that I tried three times to prevent a mentally retarded rapist from becoming president. I know a lot of Trump-haters, and we're all are proud of our votes, and we have absolutely zero cognitive dissidence. Instead, we have the satisfaction of telling everyone "we fucking told you so" after the rapist started sucking Putin's cock, needlessly declaring war on Iran, and gravely harming the national interest by shitting on the NATO alliance.
>>541771382President of fake and gayWhere you on 9/11, Donald? Epstein Island getting your dick sucked?
>>541807237Fudgepacking niggers. Wow!
>>541805725Maybe, I will say the prices increasing isn't great, and I wish he'd do more anti-trust things like teddy for small businesses, but he has created dialog about certain issues that won't go away now. I'm not sure about the deportation numbers, don't know who to believe. However, I will say I have seen less of them and less homeless, so that's great.
>>541771382>Will There Ever Be a Presidency as Bad as This Again1. Lefty liberals mostly hate his ass.2. Most righty republicans, like to even love him.3. (you)r #1 attempt to impose your own echo chamber weekly pamphlet bulletin points onto "everyone" and by definition onto "me", in no way convinces me to join your side.4. in fact, the more you carry on about him, the more I know he pisses you off.5. you are now no longer something I just have to smile and endure your opinions. You made yourself and positioned yourself, as my enemy. You declared me, as a straight white man harming no one and wishing no ill will? You name me as your big enemy.6. now that we're enemies, all I need to know is how bad Trump makes you seethe. My enemy's enemy, is my friend.7. if you all weren't so publicly masks off knives out pissed at Trump, I wouldn't back his every move as much as I do.8. I'll now vote for *any* republican that promises to piss you liberals off and take over where he left off. No matter how "bad" of a leader they might well be? Nothing else matters to me. You picked a fight with me, I tried to play it off and be civil. You insisted. So this is how it is now. I will next vote for ANYone, no matter what they do, as long as I think they oppose my enemy.9. you keep screaming "orange Hitler". You soft privileged assholes have no concept of what Hitler would even look like today. But of you keep your shit up long enough, another real Hitler will come along and whatever happens, happens. Fuck it, I just mean to see this through.10. I'm not that violent, but if cattle cars start taking you assholes and all your pets with you one day? I ain't coming looking what they do with you. out of sight, out of mind.>Glad we could have this little hear to heart. SO if you shills wonder what's in many of our hearts and minds? You just read it, zippy.
>>541771705>Things can always get worsethey can.
>>541805971Obama fucked things for the homeland. He bailed out big business and had a shitton of clandestine operations that thr media refused to mention.
>>541807839Take your meds, tranny.
>>541807123>I didn't want a mentally retarded rapist to be president.But you voted for Biden
>>541771382He’s bad because he’s a narcissist. Narcassists have a habit of inventing their own reality. So yeah if you get another narcissist the same thing will repeat
>>541807930>Obama fucked things for the homelandHe actually fixed a lot of the actual problems created by Bush (and Clinton for that matter) which led to the very real economic crisis he inherited. Him criticizing police brutality didn't actually fuck anything up, you are just a snowflake.>He bailed out big businessHe saved the auto industry. >had a shitton of clandestine operations that thr media refused to mentionThere isn't really anything unique to Obama. His foreign policy actions were widely reported and Republicans often criticized him for not going far enough.
>>541771382Sure there will. He's just the beginning. From here on out every president will be some fringe populist lunatic and spend the lion's share of their terms undoing everything the prior president did and attempting to put his entire administration in prison.
>>541772091>Do you really think there is a cabal of Jewish people controlling everything to make everything stuff you don't like?certain memes, can''t be lied about.Feminism, for instance. The jews openly BRAG about how all the leading feminists are all jewish women. How all civil rights are they're "achievement". Now they brag about open borders, and how they will force it up on us. Its no lie when we see it, say it, then jews brag and agree.
>>541771382There were enough people to vote for him to elect him, so it's bound to happen again. They literally voted for him TWICE.
>>541772284>This administration never read the US Constitution to begin with. They just force shit through regardless of checks and balances.Clinton all but invented "running everything by executive order". He signed the orders monthly to keep them going. Bush learned it off of his eight years, so bush 1.0 did it for his eight years. You democrats started this game, the president is to push his boundaries and see what he can get away with. Fuck it. Why you crying about what you invented.
>>541808308Trump supporters aren’t people
>>541772363>Yeah Bush II was bad. Trump is considerably worse.This Iranian shit is nothing compared to the full scale invasion and occupation of multiple arab countries for a twenty plus year force commitment.
>>541808114>Him criticizing police brutality didn't actually fuck anything up, you are just a snowflake.I wasn't referring to that at all. Nice strawman. Police are brutal but they have reason to be and that reason is niggers. Also police are purposely selected to be dumb. The trayvon Martin thing wasn't about police brutality at all, and the Mexican guy was wrongfully focused on.>he saved the auto industry No, he saved 1, GM, and use my tax dollars to do so. He made sure that his donors were safe and would not suffer any consequences for their actions. He solidified the corporations and removed any pretense of a free market. >There isn't really anything unique to Obama. His foreign policy actions were widely reported and Republicans often criticized him for not going far enough.And the Republicans can suck a fatty too. Killing ghadaffi, killing us citizens with drones, selling weapons to the drug cartels. He was never punished for any. Also, allowing and abating epstien can be added. Obama fucking sucked, was a champagne socialist faggot, wasn't a natural born citizen by his own admittance. You can play "bush was worse!" and maybe he was, but Obama was way worse than trump 1 and current trump. Could trump get worse? Maybe, but it'd be hard.
>>541778261that's a good description of his first term, this second term has been a fucking catastrophe and it's not even half over yet.
>>541773516>like "clinton wasnt all that bad"clinton was a light spring rain, obama and biden were rainstorms and what almost get elected promised they would be worse.
>>541771759He and his wife wiped their dicks all over Illinois He fucked us so hard we went from 95% white to 60% in 8 yearsThey literally bussed in foreigners to fuck with our elections then redistricted us into oblivion at Obamas requestIts a bit of a rabbit hole but one worth going down>nooo it was just state legislation You fucking wish
>>541773607>He did a 180 as soon as he got in the second time.jews, media, international and home based political pressure... forced the Iranian situation. Now you seek to use it as proof he promised no, and you forcing his hand is somehow his failing. We see right through you, only israel benefits from this, its who instigated it. I see right through your shilling bullshit, and I'm no expert.
>>541808485>This Iranian shit is nothing compared to the full scale invasion and occupation of multiple arab countriesYeah, it's much worse for the global economy and our own.>for a twenty plus year force commitmentBush wasn't president for 20 years. Trump was president for much of this time and has expanded them, instead of ending any of them. Had Biden/Kamala won, we'd have left Iraq now as part of their agreement and we wouldn't be at war with Iran.
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>>541807941>Take your meds, tranny.just a disgruntled straight white male who went from tolerating you to hating your guts, that's all. fuck you and die, but the more you seethe the better I like it. Its that simple. Voting fr Trump or the next Trump? Best thing I can easily do that will make you pull your hair out. You want more? Pick up a gun and shoot at ICE, see what ICE does to (you). Faggot. I hope ICE floss dances over your corpses and I get to kek at the *.gif. Best part is, I'm a normal guy. Imagine what a truly unhinged motherfucker really thinks, you should ponder on that. Shill.
>>541809221>Yeah, it's much worse for the global economy and our own.>>for a twenty plus year force commitment>Bush wasn't president for 20 years.semantics. The occupation and subsequent invasions, took over twenty years no matter who was president to preside over that mess after it was initiated. And what happened to the democrats, always against all wars. They wanna go in boots on the ground all over the place, the little democrat warmongers.
>>541809394democrats: against all warsalso democrats: list of places we should send the military we hate and talk shit on.
>>541773003Trump has never worked out since high school, has never driven a truck, has never driven himself, nor has he ever pumped his own gas.KYS
>>541771382Trump will be considered a weak present in the future, after the pendulum swings violently away from 3rd world socialists that inhabit the left. To me, he is a great president for setting this all in motion. I can't wait for universal suffrage to end
>>541809684Nice! You sure showed him, xister!Fucking faggot.
>>541808599>I wasn't referring to that at allThen explain what was worse in "the homeland" in 2016 than 2008? Because things that are actually tangible, like the economy, were in much better shape.>Police are brutal but they have reason to be and that reason is niggersThey are brutal to white people and innocent animals too.>No, he saved 1, GMHe saved both GM and Chrysler, which in turn saved over a million jobs.>use my tax dollars to do soSaving a million jobs during the worst economic crisis in a generation is actually a good use of tax payer dollars, unlike the forever wars started by Bush and Trump and the massive defense spending to "pay" for it.>Killing ghadaffiLiterally nobody other than neocons and NAFO troons defends this. Obama himself called it the biggest mistake of his presidency.>killing us citizens with dronesIt was one member of al-Qaeda, and Trump killed his 8-year old American granddaughter in a completely meaningless and failed raid in his first week in office in 2017.>selling weapons to the drug cartelsThe program was initiated by Bush, Obama ended it.>Also, allowing and abating epstien can be addedBush Jr.'s administration gave him the lenient plea deal, Trump's first administration allowed him to die in prison and Trump's second administration has gone out of its way to protect his network.>Obama fucking sucked, was a champagne socialist faggot, wasn't a natural born citizen by his own admittanceNone of this is true. And even if Obama was a Kenyan Muslim Socialist, he's at least not controlled by Israel, unlike white 'Murican Zion Don.
>>541809772Rope youself, too, troon-goon
>>541774738Uncharacteristically based Trump
>>541809684I never pump my own gas either and I'm just some asshole from New Jersey
>>541773622Not our fault each one gets worse and worse
>>541808356Because Newt Gingrich invented modern Republican partisanship as we know it to make sure nothing will ever get done in Congress again if a Democrat gets to sign it
>>541810022That's obviously different.
>>541771382Oh my sweet summer child you're going downhill since (at least) Carter.
>>541809394>semanticsNo it's the truth. You can't solely blame Bush for either Afghanistan or Iraq. Congress approved the wars and both of his successors kept troops there, which represented the vast majority of the duration of the conflicts. It's completely different than Zion Don starting the Iran War on a whim after his master told him to. And nobody is claiming the Democrats are anti-war by and large. Biden was an exception, like Carter.
>>541783570>Anti-zionist opinions, however, are allowed and protected even in Britainuhhhhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VPxJ_89yek
>>541803302By all means explain why. You can't but I need a laugh
>>541804571>aca fucked up heath careLMAO
>>541809867Can't. I'm white and male. My existence pisses people like you off and that's and added bonus. >>541809839He stoked racial tensions purposely and aided drug cartels poisoning the homeland by selling them weapons. Police brutality is now a bad thing, says you? I thought you didn't like it. I don't commit crimes or put myself in places that could be attributed to crimes. I actually talk to the police like they're people in a shit a job, because they are. Police brutality is your issue, not mine. I didn't bring it up at all, you did. Wow! A million jobs?? A whole million? And the market was forever okay and competition was never suppressed by government bail outs! I'm being sarcastic. The government should never bail out any business, ever. You thing it's okay to pick and choose winners and losers is telling me you don't understand markets or down stream effects. What, you think those people were going to be unemployment forever and no company could appear and fill the void left by retards with poor business practices? Faggot. No, using my tax dollars to save a company from their own retardation isn't a good idea at all ever. You think fucking with the flow of markets and allowing corporations to never suffer the consequences of their actions is a good idea? You're a retard. Obama might call it a mistake, doesn't absolve him of him doing it and the consequences that followed, like the migrant crisis. "I feel bad for doing it :(" darn! Well that'll fix resulting problems that ghadaffi himself warned of. So it's okay that Obama did that because it was just one guy and also trump did it too, so it's totally okay? Also, it wasn't one, it was 4, but that's okay too!Obama ended it? Before or after he participated in it?Obama is absolutely a champagne socialist and he earned a scholarship for foreign students. He either lied then or later. Also, he birth certificate photoshop file was uploaded, layers not condensed. You're a faggot, dude.
>>541810480>Biden was an exception, like Carter.Which is why he egged on the Ukrainian war
>>541810838It did. No amount of derisive laughter will change that.
>>541808114>He actually fixed a lot of the actual problems created by Bush (and Clinton for that matter)lol, please name one problem he solved. Either way, it's obvious you're a male libtard now and that explains everything about the state of you tbqh
>>541771382Based on the provided text from a 4chan /pol/ thread dated August 31, 2026 – September 1, 2026, here is a breakdown of the primary opinion clusters regarding the question: "Will there ever be a presidency as bad as [the current one] again?">Note: The thread is highly polarized, anonymous, and contains significant toxicity, conspiracy theories, and hate speech. The "consensus" is not a scientific poll but a reflection of the dominant voices in this specific forum environment.>1. The "No, This is the Worst / America is Dead" Consensus (~35-40%)This group argues that the current presidency (identified as Trump's second term in the text) is a historical anomaly of incompetence, corruption, or destruction that cannot be surpassed because the system is collapsing or the current president is a unique "historical outlier."Core Arguments:The current administration is destroying the US economy, debt, and international reputation beyond repair.The US is on the verge of collapse ("America is dead," "United States of Argentina").Future presidents will be irrelevant because the office itself or the country will cease to function.Some view the current president as a "historical outlier" who will not be matched in incompetence.Representative Sentiment: "There won't be another," "America is dead," "He's the first beast. The second's much worse [implying the current one is the worst so far]," "He will push the nuke button."
>>541811155That was Trump needlessly making tensions worse by providing offensive weaponry to the Ukrainian nationalists after the Donbas Civil War was essentially frozen. Biden spent the first year of his presidency trying to undue Trump's damage by allowing Nordstream to continue and continuing the START Treaty. Obviously for American credibility, he had to defend Ukraine when they were attacked, but he was not seeking conflict like Zion Don and his neocon cabal.
>>541811697>2. The "Yes, It Will Get Worse" Consensus (~25-30%)This group believes the current situation is merely the beginning of a decline. They argue that due to systemic rot, elite control, or demographic shifts, future administrations will be even more disastrous.Core Arguments:The current president is a symptom of a "rotten" elite class; future presidents will be worse puppets.The "Jewish problem" or "cabal" control will lead to direct authoritarianism or worse outcomes.Political polarization means future leaders will be more extreme lunatics (e.g., "Caligula" comparisons).The current president has set a low bar that will inevitably be crossed.Representative Sentiment: "Things can always get worse," "The next one," "It just gets worse," "He's only the first beast," "Decaying democracies usually you get one shit president after another.">3. The "No, He is the Best / 'Bad' is a Liberal Construct" Consensus (~15-20%)A vocal minority (often engaging in "seething" or counter-memeing) argues that the premise of the question is flawed because they view the current president as the best or a necessary corrective to previous administrations. They interpret "bad" as "bad for liberals/globalists" rather than objectively bad governance.Core Arguments:Trump is the "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) or a "God Emperor."Previous presidents (Bush, Biden, Obama) were objectively worse (wars, debt, border issues).The "badness" is just liberals "seething" because their agenda is being blocked.The current president is exposing the "deep state" and "corrupt elites."Representative Sentiment: "Trump is the greatest president," "He's the GOAT," "He makes Bill Clinton look like a statesman," "You libtoids were saying this about Bush."
>>541811777>4. The "Comparative/Contextual" Consensus (~10-15%)These users acknowledge the current president is flawed but argue he is not the worst in history, comparing him to historical figures like Buchanan, Johnson, or Bush Jr. They suggest that while he is terrible, history has seen worse or will see worse depending on the metric (e.g., war vs. economy).Core Arguments:Bush Jr. was worse due to the Iraq War and debt.Historical figures like Buchanan were worse due to enabling civil war.The "badness" is subjective; for some demographics, he is the best.The current administration is "mediocre" at best, not historically unique.Representative Sentiment: "Buchanan and Johnson I think still might have been arguably worse," "He's not even the worst president of this century," "Mediocre president who's done some stupid shit.">Summary of Dominant ThemesAnti-Semitism & Conspiracy: A significant portion of the thread (appearing in multiple clusters) relies on antisemitic tropes, referencing "Jewish ancestry," "cabals," and "puppets" as the root cause of the presidency's quality.Partisan Polarization: The thread is a battleground between "MAGA" supporters (Cluster 3) and "Anti-Trump" users (Clusters 1 & 2), with very little middle ground.Future Pessimism: Even among those who hate the current president, there is a strong consensus that the future looks bleak ("It's irreversible," "America is dead").Conclusion: The most dominant opinion in this specific thread is that the current presidency is historically bad and likely the worst in modern memory, but there is a split on whether it is the absolute worst possible (with many believing things will get worse) or if it is a unique event that marks the end of the American experiment. A smaller but aggressive faction insists he is actually the best president, framing the "bad" narrative as liberal propaganda.
>>541811727>. Biden spent the first year of his presidency trying to undue Trump's damage by allowing Nordstream to continue and continuing the START Treaty.Remind me what happened to nordstream 2 when Biden was President, retard..."undue", lmao
>>541811403Dodd-Frank was the modern version of Glass-Steagall which Clinton repealed, ultimately leading to the Great Recession. Bush declaring Iran part of the Axis of Evil after they helped us in Afghanistan is what caused needless animosity which Obama ended with the JCPOA, he also saved millions of homes and the auto industry, which Bush was allowing to go under.
>>541811853>Remind me what happened to nordstream 2 when Biden was PresidentUkraine blew it up. Had the war not started, it wouldn't have been attacked. Still, Trump was trying to shut it down via sanctions because he hates Europe.
>>541807088fwiw, my wife grew up in Manhattan and i've watched some of her family friends who are dem megadonors lose their minds daily for the last decade over Trump's every move. This is probably why I have a different perspective than lowborn pol zoomers who think they're informed because they listen to podcasts and "influencers".
>>541771382Yes. The next one.
>>541811871>Bush declaring Iran part of the Axis of Evil after they helped us in Afghanistan is what caused needless animositylol, of course you don't know history.
>>541811097>He stoked racial tensions purposelySee what I mean? That's the only thing you retards have and it's false. You just don't like the fact that he isn't an Uncle Tom. Trump is an actually racist person.>and aided drug cartelsAgain, Bush started it and Obama ended it.>The government should never bail out any businessThe government already subsidies most major industries, retard. Ensuring they don't go under and we lose a million jobs and foreign countries gain even more control over the global automobile industry is a good thing.>Obama might call it a mistake, doesn't absolve him of him doing itNobody said it did. It's still nowhere near as disastrous as Iraq or Iran and unlike Bush and Trump, he had the decency to admit he was wrong. Also, Trump supported killing Gaddafi.
>>541812134Nta but this does look bad. >Allow me to reference my Manhattan wife in 4incels.org
>>541812188It's literally true, you dumb hick retard. Iran directly worked with us in Afghanistan again the Taliban and al-Qaeda and we essentially had cordial relations for the first time since 1979 until Bush declared them part of the Axis of Evil as part of his Israeli neocon Clean Break agenda, just like Zion Don.
>>541812276I get that, but so many of the slop narratives on pol about Trump being just like any other politician or comped or whatever collapse immediately when you actually know people involved in politics personally.